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Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
Use the IRC pussies
>>29746634
first for how to pass meps
my parents once sent me to the doc for "depression" and "adhd" and got me on a med for awhile but i didnt really have those fake shits i was just a teenager at the time and was lazy. do i just lie about this shit?
Son, I am the Rippit
>>29746657
Yes. Lie about everything.
>>29746657
The military does not have any magical record keeping system that can reach down to pediatric centers and learn anything they can about you.
They will only know what you tell them and what you display to them.
Show your best, tell them nothing.
How hard is it switching from reserves to active duty in the Navy nowadays? The only Intelligence contract I was able to get easily was for the reserves.
>>29746634
Not citrus x flavor.
Anyway, those stop working and you will need to resort to drinking preworkouts every night to stay awake
>>29746720
>>29746672
if Mcveigh can pass it i think i can
What would a Nuke do if he joined the Navy Reserves after active duty? Conventional side of their rate?
>>29746657
We're you diagnosed? Did you take medication? Will you be trying to get an mos with a security clearance? Even if the answer to all these is yes, there's little chance the military will check up on your history. The only times I've heard of people getting caught is when they out themselves by acting up during basic.
>>29746762
no i mean you know how we were as kids, and how sensitive parents can be
>oh no he isnt smiling 24/7 he must be autistic hey doc my kid is depressed give him meds
>>29746742
If you know who McVeigh is you may be too old to join, bro.
>>29746762
FYI: you have to report treatment within the last seven years on the sf86. Signing it gives the guvment permission to pull your records.
As I said in the last thread - if you're a kid who has no idea what you're talking or if you're in a retard mos and have never had a clearance above confidential, then please stop posting itt. You're not helping anybody.
>>29746929
Did I ever say they don't have permission? They simply don't have the time to do it for every case. They're more concerned with your loyalty to the US, police record, finishing situation and all that.
>>29747013
Pulling your medical record is mandatory, you're informed of this at meps. It happens again after your sf is processed.
Please stop shitposting.
>>29746742
McVeigh is a true American hero and a damn fine example of the United States Marine Corps. Kill yourself.
>>29746665
Let's ask the ripit, bud.
>>29747582
RANDY!
>>29747593
Frig off.
>>29746788
>tfw watched okc bombing "live" on tv
>tfw going to MEPS tomorrow
>>29747271
Truth
>>29747610
God damnit boy. Stop prostituting for cheeseburgers.
I'm on the liquor boy.it helps me see clearly. Bunch of shit snaps invading /k/.
Is there anything i can do for my allergies at Army basic?
>>29747808
suck it up. not even being a dick, that's just what you'll have to do
>>29746738
Its mildly hard, I know a CTR 3 who is going through that process right now. Its all about having the chain of command at whatever reserve unit you end up in help you get your t's crossed and your i's dotted.
Mostly though if you really want active and you haven't yet gone down and signed on the dotted line, wait.
shit i remember when /meg/ would hit the bump limit every couple of hours, now its never in the front 5 pages
>everyone on /meg/ a few months back either tried out and failed or is in basic/ait and cant post
Reg here
Deployment 4 weeks out. I been a busy boy.
>>29748630
Afghanistan?
>>29748682
Yes
>>29748688
awesome man, have fun and good luck
There are no infantry contracts currently available in the army.
I have called about thirty recruitment offices across four states. I'm not sure why I did that, as they all pull from the same system.
I had no idea it would be this difficult to snag an 11x contract.
>>29748771
11x option 40 and 18x were available monday in north carolina
>>29748812
For the active army?
I saw 60 11x slots last week, then they slowly dwindled down. Nothing left.
>>29748823
yes, active
Don't worry ypou little primordial oozeballs
Infantry opens up most especially in the spring and fall. Go to your recruiting office daily to check in order to secure a slot.
I will teach you the ways of an infanryman in OSUT.
Oh and I can tell you how you'll know if you are 11B or 11C early.
>>29748896
It's summertime, and my moral waiver will expire. Gotta get dat contract.
>>29748937
Don't worry sweet child, you can hold a contract months in advance. You just get into DEP.
>>29749005
I've been projected out quite far. Ain't nothing there, Cap'n. Called ROC and everything. When do you think that will change?
I was fixated on National Guard or Air Guard until I learned the reserves has the same scheduled 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks a year. Now I'm contemplating all branches (except muhreens)
Any experience with Navy/AF/Army reserves? Can you into reserves with a POGish job?
...Anonymous
04/26/16(Tue)02:38:22 No.29742366
If you have any hesitation/fear of joining as inf, should you just not? I feel like if you want to be inf you have to want it with everything you have, as in drive over to the recruiters office first thing in the morning with no hesitation/regrets.
Or is that unrealistic, and it's more of a "well you signed up for it now you're stuck, so you'll get used to it and be fine" kind of deal?
>>29749190
You got to fucking want it or you will puss out either at OSUT, in your unit, or get kicked out for being a little bitch.
I do not use any of those words lightly. That is literally what is happening to my unit 4 goddamn weeks before we deploy to Afghanistan.
>>29749121
Just keep checking as much as possible. Drive the recruiters nuts with you popping your head in to check for 11x. The only proven way. I shit you not. They will give it good and hard when it opens up. It gets you off their back and makes you a happy little sweet primordial ooze.
>>29749121
sign up 18x then wash out
>>29747032
Just got out of MEPS and lied about asthma diagnosis as a kid, no problems
Don't be a fag
If it's not going to be a problem;
Lie deny until you die
>>29749308
Do not taint the 11b or 11c MOS this way you sick fuck. He will hate his career and his arriving unit will hate him dearly.
>>29748896
Teach me the way, I fear 11C my great predecessor
>>29749350
Listen my sweet little thing
There is no holding the 11C back. However, when you arrive to 30th AG at Henning, the in processing station, ask the people in your company whether they're national guard or active duty. If they are active duty, ignore them...for now. If they are national guard, ask what their MOS is. Oif they say 11B, congrats! Welcome, we have been expectimng you. If they say 11C...my boy, you are not one of us.
National guard decides the fate at in processing. All 11C national guard guys get put in the same companies and any active duty guys who go with them are unfortunately 11C. Same for 11B minus the unfortunate part.
Oi was the Delta dragons at in processing. We had a Drill Sgt we called Mama Dragon. She was a mean sexy bitch and we made her cry a lot.
Also any soldiers who have the last names from basically A-E are together, F-K are together, L through R, and R through Z are all in the same platoon. Bwefriend those with close last names, and the closer to the same last name the closer they are to being bunkmates.
>>29749453
God. Damn. It.
BENNING
>>29749469
>>29749453
kek i saw that
>>29746634
>>29746665
You're out of your class son.
>>29748771
feels good to have enlisted when I was still a junior, have my contract nice and snug waiting for me :)
>>29749254
infantry poolee fag here leaving soon for the georgia sun. All bullshit aside do you think we'll be seeing more sandbox deployments in the near future?
>>29749625
Nope, sorry brother.
>>29749628
:'^(
>>29749625
Just sent more SF to Syria, 9/11 papers being released soon, ISIS still making a ruckus, etc.
Anything can happen.
>>29749350
11C is where it's at
>>29746634
OCS Candidate here how is a 263 for a pt score?
>>29749625
>>29749628
Nigga I'm going to be in Afghanistan in 4 weeks
And yes, I fucking do. I already know of 4 more units deploying to Afghanistan late 2016, so don't fucking listen to tards unless its me. Anonymous.
>>29749674
mediocre
>>29749532
Tell that to me on vehicle watch in TQ after I literally drank 15 rip its and my heart became unstable. I WILL rip your fucking head off!
>>29749441
Thanks mate
I just don't want to be 11C really, I'm after 11bambam
>>29749686
Good to hear, also still poolee fag, if you don't mind answering I understand but will these deployments be more of a jack off and lift weights kinda thing or will you be layin down haj?
i signed most of the enlistment papers for ng and decided i would rather do active duty and try to get 11x but am i to far in the process. so far the recruiter took my finger prints ssc ,birth cert. and driver lecense. and havent gone to meps yet. do i just tell him i dont want to join anymore?
>>29749705
11C sits with headquarters and lobs mortars either from a tube on their back or if cav unit from a truck.
>>29749718
Boooooothhhh....really iffy diude. My unit is being attached to SF on a platoon level. Oiur whole company is being sent all over Afghanistan and our squadron is going all over the fuckin place.
SF is only unit snapping necks so anyone with them is either chillin guarding them and or out there snapping necks too. Fighting season just kicked off and CIB is guaranteed especially with these dudes.
>>29749751
tell him to suck your pp and you don't wanna be a weekend fag. Jk but you're still good to drop it, if you haven't even meps yet you're all good
>>29749751
Just say you want to go AD you fucking pussy. He will make it happen. You are not too deep you haven't even gone to MEPS yet.
>>29747271
is this a troll? If not:
1) just stop, you autistic sovereign citizen retard
2) he was in the army
>>29749771
Sweet, just wondering because I've always heard peacetime infantry blows BBC, but it's also what you make of and all that shit. Not particularly out with a death wish, but some some fun in the sun would be nice.
>>29749335
If that diagnosis was within the last seven years and your job requires a secret or higher then they're going to pull your records.
If it was within the last seven years then come back in ~8 months when you get kicked out and tell me how right I was.
>>29749771
>Oiur whole company is being sent all over Afghanistan and our squadron is going all over the fuckin place.
Lol... you're going to be on close-down working parties.
Have fun filling sandbags.
>>29749689
thanks weak in running can get 272
>>29749340
lol fuck you
>>29749905
Whatever they have me do, I do it with passion. Fenty is pretty chill besides the daily IED and IDF.
>>29749878
I love this shit. My squadron CSM says "You gotta loooove this shit to do it every day" and I always have always will. Whatever job or detail they throw, just volunteer and do that shit. Leadership like as it a fucking ton. Don't be a shitbag learn your ARs FMs always be in the right uniform at the right time and never say no to the army.
I have soldier of the month board this friday
>>29749884
You are wrong, I have a secret clearance and they sure as fuck didn't pull nothing. Secret is basic as fuck lol. Top secret that's a whole new animal.
>>29750042
>soldier of the month board
Waste of time going to one unless you have a Tab
>>29750062
Not really. Its company level, obviously my fucking CoC knows me. I'm the best shot with PEQ15 in the troop, i m that asshole that quizzes his buddies for hours on ARs FMs, weapon stats, tackles new guys and administers CATs, etc.
Goddamn only squared away motivated junior in the whole troop, its retarded.
Also, fort hood has air assault school and that's about it.
>>29750129
Our boards were a sham, any dirtbag that had a Tab would win it.
Walk in, spout off Ranger creed, walk out
>>29750168
We just got back from an NTC rotation and 2 new dudes from the LRSS unit with airborne wings got fucking coins for a missioon in which they did absolutely nothing.
i take ASVAB tomorrow and MEPS Thursday. i have my MOS reserved, but they say to check and see if another job is available, it cancels my reservation, and there's a big possibility that it wont be there if i dont find another job i want. anyone here take the gamble and check for another MOS?
also, my reserved MOS needs an ST line score of 101. i'm assuming my reserved job gets automatically cancelled if i fuck up on the ASVAB. will i know my ASVAB score right after taking it? if i don't get an ST or GT of 101, why bother going to MEPS just to tell them to fuck off with their open mechanic contract, or whatever they try to give me?
any advice would be great
>>29749691
>Vehicle watch
>TQ
>15 rip its
>And he said he'll rip my fucking head off
God damnit Anon, let me breath.
>>29750188
Never got any coins, but we had AAMs handed out like candy. It got pretty ridiculous at times
>>29750042
>You are wrong
So you either didn't lie about anything or since you have a retard job they didn't what you lied about. I'm not even going to ask why someone like you even has a secret, it is not like you guys even handle crypto keys.
It is pretty shitty of you to encourage kids to lie. My advice is to just disclose and wait the two weeks for your waiver. If you have a serious medical condition that is a dq no matter what then I wouldn't advise joining, unless you actually want to be one of those retards who dies in boot camp.
>>29750227
Secrets are easy as fuck to get. Every 11B/C I know has one, you need one to get in a Stryker
>>29750189
You can look at the job list like fucking nothing. Literally just a few clicks and all open slots pop up. No canceling BS.
A GT101 is fucking stupid easy. All my line scores are in the 110's, my GT being 118 and I guessed hardcore on the math because of about 15 concussions in highschool destroyed my brain.
POG jobs are always open and they always look better and better but in the end they kinda suck horse cocks as far as doing army stuff goes. My new LT who went green to gold went from a geospacial intel analyst to an infantry 1St LT. He's never slept in the field once in 7 years and he kept asking why a 240 was malfunctioning when the gun and its team was caked in clay mud and cow piss/shit.
>>29750227
Never said to lie, I had a lot of medical docs I never gave up. My bunk neighbor in OSUT got a waievwer for YTHC in his system when he took the piss test. Anything is possible.
>>29750255
This. I'm stryker unit btw
>>29750211
On the railhead detail from NTC back home we worked 18 hour on 6 off and had a CSM promise to our faces AAMs. Even took down our name rank and SSN. 4 months later where is my damn AAM?
>>29750265
what was your ASVAB score? and yeah i was told in order to check availability, they cancel your res and you might not get it back. or if you do get it back, you may lose your bonus. my bonus is badass, its a 5 figure gamble just to check and see if my number 1 or 2 pick is available
>>29750255
>you need one to get in a Stryker
Ah, gotcha.
I never said it was hard, sperg. I was making the point that lying on an sf86 is retarded since sg waivers are being passed out like candy these days.
>>29750265
>Never said to lie
My bad, thought this >>29749335 was you.
>>29750311
Kek, I helped the Armorer/XO/CO do an arms room inventory one weekend and got an AAM for it. Ended up with 4 of them in like 2 years
>>29750317
75 don't risk what you want for momentary satisfaction. I had 30 jobs too pick I was like man what the fuck where is infantry ? My recruiters jaw hit the fucking desk. I went back 2 days later and got 11x.
>>29750347
I have done 3 of those including an entire arms room BII layout! I stole 5 BUIS setups and a pistol grip.
>>29750367
can anyone else confirm that you can get line scores in the 110s and get a 75? i got an 88 on my practice ASVAB and have been fucking studying ever since because i thought it was low
>>29750389
88℅ of the nation is HIGH. Avg is in 50s. Goddamn dude. You'll probably get a higher ASVAB score.
>>29746634
>not drinking 8 Rip Its in the 125 f degree heat.
>not doing donuts in your toyota helix pickup in the kuwaiti sand
>not taking the most constipated shit in your life because of rip it's and MRE's
>Not passing out from Rip It's because they were a diuretic and not a very good hydrating source.
>Not threating third party nationals with your M-16 and m-9 strapped on while searching them. (they were actually scared.)
>Not almost getting an article 15 because you were snitched on by a fucking fuccboi reservist for trying to get some desert pussy.
Rip-Its were the shit.
Reservist's can suck my dick. You are literally jokes when you get deployed.
>>29750398
all the fucks on here talking about their 94s and 98s got me sweating
>>29749532
Above your paygrade
>>29750389
youll pass youre not retarded dont worry people do worse in the practice one than the real one anyway
speaking of retardation if i dont get in as an IW officer in the navy, should i try for aviator sub officer or enlist as a corpsman or 0311? seems kinda shitty in peacetime though
>>29750387
I ended up ETSing with a gangster grip and about 20 mags. Wish I could of gotten some cooler shit to take, but I'm happy with all the mags
>>29750421
Those are autistic nerds or liars. I know a girl in nuke school who got a 99. She's got a weird vibe but she's pretty cool. And then you got master race geniuses.
But really, I would pull up my ERB but no can do. It is easy test just 3 hours.
>>29750433
My platoon just got an 0311 who transferred over to 11B because promotions suck in the corps even after 7 years all he made was Sgt
Peacetime or wartime infantry is what you make it.
>>29750458
My squad leader was armorer for a bit...he's also a gun finatic.
He has a $10,000 PVS29 ON HIS R700
It wasnt being tracked by arms room so he snatched it.
He says he's hunting for some good shit to steal from these SF dudes I'm like goddamn SSG.
>>29750389
>110s and get a 75
Got a 97 AFQT and 130-135 GT score (been out for a few years going to college so I don't remember the exact GT, but it was higher than 130).
I don't think 75 and 110 sounds unreasonable.
>>29750461
how about that TAPAS test? my recruiter said the questions are like "would you rather punch a baby or kill a baby?"
yeah i'm just worried about the math. i literally aced the word knowledge and paragraph comprehension, but arithmetic reasoning and math knowledge kind of kicked my ass. I'm not worried about biology or physics.
>>29750517
goddamn, good job. must have been a hell of a student. what job did you go for?
>>29750522
There's an electrics part a gears part and a picture part too
The test is dumb easy. Pick the most leadership looking one and the one that the military would go ah, a normal strong person
>>29750206
>pog ass or civvie
>yes I'm on vehicle watch
>after a 3 day convoy
>>29750540
>goddamn, good job. must have been a hell of a student.
Fuck no, I was an asshole as a kid. In fact the only thing that kept me from dropping out of high school and going to Job Corps was that I wanted to wrestle. So I got my grades up enough to wrestle varsity in 9th grade and kept them up to stay eligible.
I was identified as "Gifted" when I was in elementary and went to a separate program once a week at another school that was better funded for years, but I just didn't like school. So I got in trouble a lot, failed twice (8th grade once, 9th grade once), skipped school etc.
>what job did you go for?
I originally went to MEPS with a 35L (Counter Intelligence Agent, used to be 97B IIRC) contract, but I enlisted in 2006 and it was in the process of shifting from an initial entry MOS to prior enlisted only. So I ended up as a 35F (All Source Analyst, used to be 96B, also used to be called "Tactical Analyst" or something similar).
Now I'm a junior in college with a cumulative 3.5+ GPA.
>>29750555
i was a mechanic for a couple of years, i think I'll be straight on the gears and ohms and amperage shit.
i wish i joined up when i was younger, I'd try to do something more fun or combat oriented, but i'm older and wiser, i knew far too many infantry guys working shit jobs when they got out.
I'll let you guys know how it goes at ASVAB and MEPS
>>29750461
i wish i coudl go marine infantry officer but i cant pass the pft with a perfect score yet
>>29750616
fuck, i wanted to go 35M to lima, or fox if it wasn't available. neither were so i reserved 35N because bonus
How hard is it to get a 13F slot?
also
What is it like to enlist going in as an E-4? How soon can I join the E-4 Mafia lol
>>29750485
My buddies managed to steal an extra parachute after their last jump before ETS, but I wasn't as lucky
Thinking about joining the NG as 12B
anyone have 12B experience?
>>29750650
You will get a ton of shit for coming in as an E4. Don't act above the E1-E3s that have more TIS than you or your life will be hell
Alright so I signed up for another rate in the Navy, but I want to go SEAL, do I just roll up and tell him I want to take the SEAL challenge?
>>29750650
You will never be in the E4 Mafia as a fucking enlisted specialist. You will be hated and walkers over by every got datum rank and miss out on all the fun of pinnimng buddies! Oh my god will they hate you. They as in everyone. And just wait until a slot opens. Check daily.
>>29750652
That new infantry marine we got still has his ENTIRE TA50 list from the corps. My god is it sexy.
>>29750668
Pls be troll
>>29750633
35F is a great MOS, and will give you an insiders view into the intelligence process. It's really what people think of when they hear or talk about "intelligence analysts".
The single source guys are still analysts, but they (35G, 35N/S etc.) are really closer to the Processing step of the Intelligence Cycle. The collectors (35M, 35L to an extent) also have somewhat of an analytical part of their jobs, and I've worked with Limas who were tasked as analysts for most of the deployment.
But all source analysts are the guys who fuse all of the pieces together to create a finished intelligence product and disseminate it, using reporting from single source analysts and collectors, OSINT, historical + subject matter knowledge, and analytical tools like Analysis of Competing Hypotheses, quantitative analysis, association matrices, lynch pin analysis etc.
Having done it both in the real world (deployed working in the Joint Theater 2 shop, and also in the ARCENT G2 shop working regional long term topics) and seen the academic side, there are a lot of commonalities.
Get on my level faggots
>>29750699
>That new infantry marine we got still has his ENTIRE TA50 list from the corps. My god is it sexy.
I still have my deuce gear, alice, flak and some other crap.
People drool over it? What is the deal?
I'm seeing all these posts about how the practice ASVAB is harder than the real thing. When I took it I got an equal score to a 90 on the asvab, but when I took the real thing at MEPs I scored a 55. It confused the fuck out of me, I'm not clinically retarded, I just suck at taking tests and advanced science and math is a huge weakness for me. It was honestly kinda embarrrassing to tell my recruiter my score and hearing everybody else get scores in the 70s and 80s and shit. I just don't want my average score to limit my opportunities in the future.
>>29750740
>>29750763
thanks never served :^)
>>29750730
Plate carrier, issued PMAGs, that fucking rucksack, those suspenders
>>29750712
would you say its worth $32000 to check and see if fox is available? or stick with signals? also I've been training physically for months, I'm 99% positive i can max the PT test. don't signint guys get a shot at SOT-A?
>>29750740
this is the fucking shit that scares me
>>29750797
study basic math. not kidding. long division and multiplication. also look up how basic circuits work.
>>29750699
You should reup for an Airborne unit. Come to the shit posting side of the Army
>>29750740
Absolute shit. If it too later look unter AR621-5 I believe that's the right one. Its ACES. Maybe DANTES or some shit. You automatically qualify if your GT is below 100.
>>29750808
Yo man my fukkin unit runs army wtf moments u jelly bruh
Fucking 3CR
>>29750663
>>29750699
Any more information about going in as an E-4?
I had some things happen that prevented me from doing OCS or ROTC right out of college but I do expect to go to OCS one day. But for now I just want to get some experience.
In all seriousness, how can I not be "that guy".
>>29750806
i understand complex circuitry and wiring, gears, pullies etc. i've been studying basic math and algebra for a week. hopefully its enough. i leave for ASVAB at 11am tomorrow, i might study some more in the morning
>>29750839
Just don't try and act like you're better than the lower enlisted guys and you'll be fine.
Be prepared for shit talking though, you'll probably be called college boy for a bit
Hey /k/, a question. So I REALLY want to join a military, however for personal reasons I REALLY don't want to serve the American military (In short tranny but not trying to be an attention whore about it. Reports here have likened being in us mil while trans as "hell"), which as a burger would be the logical choice. Now however, I do love Burgerstan so I don't really want to join the French Faggot legion or anything. Do I have any options? Obviously neck myself and all that, but besides those.
>>29750867
join the russian foreign legion
>>29750839
Don't try to tell anyone what to do. Even every E2 has more experience than you. Don't ever ask about the board, you won't go and cant go until 2 yrs in. Dont hang out in the platoon office. Don't hang out or feel like one of the fuckin team leaders who are the E4 mafia. Just be friendly defend yourself do not be cocky do not brag don't do any of this shit. Just be a good soldier, shoot well, read handbooks, learn, be in the right uniform, shaved, etc. And volunteer for every detail and fucking get dirty if you have to.
>Looking at pilot stuff
>That 10 year initial commitment
>But then again that 25k per year retention bonus
>If you're already planning to go for 20 as a pilot then it sweetens the pot, if you're at all torn on your career choice that sort of commitment requirement might push you away
Damn.
>>29750699
Why would I be a troll? I'm in decent shape and can completely demolish enlisted PST, and by the time I ship I'll be in even better shape.
I just want to know if I can still go for it.
>>29750883
I think Russia is 14 steps in the wrong direction for my case, tho I do generally love the country. But I mean seriously, the have roving packs of military dudes who beats up fags such as I.
Maybe that was your point and I'm being dense. Thanks for chatting with me :^>
>>29749674
The class average for my OCS class was 280. If you want a chance of getting your choice of AOC you'll have to do better.
>>29750851
you're fine. enjoy your 95 asvab, welcome to the club
>>29750920
why would ANY military want someone who's a basket case and requires special treatment? unfuck yourself anon
>>29750946
I don't want special treatment. I just don't wanna get beat up.
>>29750969
then stop being a faggot
>>29750946
>muh asvab.
>how much of a special snowflake am i?
>I GET TO GO TO GRYFFINDOR!
Literally the asvab complex
>>29750969
Be. A. Fucking. Man.
You already don't belong. Make yourself belong. A and read up on AR600-20 the american army is probably the only one that will protect you with EO and SHARP. Plenty of fags.
>>29750867
Join Daesh
>>29750969
>in short tranny
so either you want hormones (aka a medical dq) or you're just a faggot. either way, get over your special snowflake shit and then join, or gas yourself
>>29750987
wtf are you talking about? "welcome to the club " was tounge in cheek humor you autist
>>29750797
Yeah it sucked dick getting that score back, just as long as I can out do all the other guys in pt and not fuck up in basic and shit
>>29750946
lol thanks for the encouragement, I'll post timestamp when I'm home, for posterity
>>29750980
Naw, not really how it works.
>>29751000
Have been working on my 6 floor front flip, think I've got it down.
>>29750999
>>29751012
Fair point. Suck it up and go for it. But you must admit, the idea of having perpetually non-cooperative friendly elements potentially in the battlefield does give one pause, yes? From others here that have actually experienced it, apparently it continues regardless of quality of work or accolades.
>>29750920
go to SERE school and tell me how much US mil doesn't beat their troops
>>29751026
no problem m8, ignore guys like this
>>29750987
who are probably cooks/88M's/fuelers
>>29751040
do what you want in your private life, but tranny bullshit has no place in your military day job. which means no fucking up your endocrine system, that belongs to the army now
>>29751040
Whatever job you get won't be on the fuckin battlefield, weirdo. Be a POG. Or yeah you might get rekt. Remember AR600-20 protects your bitch ass.
Tell me about 19K
how hard is it to get into, and whats it like
>>29751087
You just enlist...then go to OSUT.
Then you start as a driver or loader which is the bitch. Then work your way up to gunner then commander. You will love the beast hate the job. Infantry loves you, you're our hero.
>>29751063
Meh, maybe letter agencies will take my business.
>>29751126
>implying the cia wants trannies either
there's a reason y'all bitch about workplace discrimination, it's because no one wants insane cock gobblers complaining about shit then offing themselves.
>Wanting to join as 14NX
>The education and training overview is 58 pages long
>4 pages solid is a list of classes you might take based on career progression
Are all job fields like this?
>>29751156
Mmm, I think I'm a reasonable person. But, tell me what branch do you serve so I know where you are representative of?
>>29751204
go air force security force like ivy, he's a trangender too
i want to join the air force got any tips
>>29751243
>air force security forces
wew :^)
>>29751045
You have to volunteer to go to schools like that in the US.
>>29751320
yes, and you'll get lit the fuck up when you fuck up
I doubt it but does anyone know anything about medical SERE? I have also seen it be called dco sere.
>>29751109
What if you want to stay a driver or loader
>>29750797
>don't signint guys get a shot at SOT-A?
Intel MOS can do all kinds of high speed stuff.
The thing is that those slots are limited and you're going to be competing to get them.
And even then there's no guarantee that you'll have the opportunity to try for them because your unit might suck dick, or any other variable that can affect what you get to do while you're in. There are things you can control that will help, like PT and qual range (and hopefully actually being competent at your job), but for the most part your experience in the military is a lottery.
>>29751438
then you're dumb, just get a cdl and be a trucker
>18
>got accepted into college
>got degree
>now 24
>working in gun shop
>not doing shit
>law enforcement that I want to work for isnt hiring right now
Should I just fuck my life up and enlist?
>>29751438
You don't or won't. You will need to move on as senior enlisted. However usually one or two E4 will stay DRI er so they have a competent one, same for loader. Gunner and TC are usually always NCO. K think they gotta be NCO actually.
>>29751488
>have degree
>enlisting
niggawut
>>29751471
i have a friend who was a ranger, he said their sot-a team sucked, so they got a new one. the new guys were a linguist and a signals guy, and they were awesome and they were attached to his unit from there on out
>>29751126
>Meh, maybe letter agencies will take my business.
I can tell you right now, if you can't get into the military you're not going to have an easy time getting hired into the civilian IC unless you have a super competitive resume and education.
The military is by far the largest IC "agency" and there are far more intel people in the military than on the civilian side.
>>29751494
honestly senpai im bored af
and for certain law enforcement positions any mil experience is considered a good boost
What's the point of literally anything but infantry and infantry marines?
There will never be another tank battle
There will never be another naval campaign
There will never be another massive air campaign
Ww2 was the last true war, after the atomic age there's no point. It's either men or nukes
>>29751508
>the new guys were a linguist and a signals guy
Two soldiers.
Now think about how many people hold those MOS.
You're odds aren't guaranteed, even if you're the perfect candidate.
>>29751554
There will be a ton of work in the air for a very long time.
>>29751524
>if you can't get into the military you're not going to have an easy time getting hired into the civilian IC unless you have a super competitive resume and education.
I want to clarify this:
I'm not saying you have to have military experience to get into the civilian side of the IC. Civilian agencies hire kids straight out of college, or older people with life experience all the time.
It's just that the military is relatively much easier to get into, and if you have a problem with that you'll likely have much more of a problem getting into the IC.
Anybody know what contracting positions are open to civis?
>>29751204
DEP-er 68w army. so anything i post is my own opinion, and my opinion is that you and your kind should fuck off
>>29751615
Ha... so a kid who knows nothing of either the military or real life thinks his opinion is valid.
>>29751540
fyi: nobody cares if you were military if you want to be a cop or co. it doesnt help if you want to get into an agency either since that 5 pts of vet preference gets overridden by your competitors advanced degrees.
>>29751571
I'm agreeing with you
they went from 4-6 shit guys to 2 awesome guys. shadowspear threads lead me to believe there's only 3-4 SOT-A teams per battalion.
>how many PT studs in MI?
>>29751660
says a tranny who's in the same boat. at least i know who i am and that my dad didn't rape me :^)
Do forward observers get handheld drones?
>>29751709
That was my first post itt. I'm not interested in your previous conversation.
Do me a favor and stop posting in meg until you actually get some life experience. I'll see you in about four years.
>>29751754
do me a favor and smoke a cock, most of what people are asking about is meps and asvab shit anyways, i've never suggested anyone do a certain job or provided serious life advice.
>>29751730
You've posted a lot in the past couple of threads. Lrn 2 Google
>>29751805
true, I'm doing both. Just trying to learn as much as possible.
I've been thinking about the possibility of joining, but I've read a lot of stories on here about this happening:
>be 18-21
>join military because of no direction in life
>sign contract for 4 years
>go through basic
>peace time so no wars to go off to
>wake up every day, do the same monotonous shit, sit around playing xbox, exercise a little bit, sleep
>repeat for 4 years
>finish contract and contemplate why the fuck you joined
I do NOT want this happening to me. Is there a way to guarantee that you will get deployed somewhere with action? Do you have to go SF?
>>29751903
Welcome to peacetime military faggot, get used to it.
>>29751903
you have to join border patrol, sorry anon
>>29746634
Talking to Army recruiter Monday to start paperwork for 68W contract.
I'm 22.
Graduated HS in 2011. In 2010 I DEP'd for the Marines, the weekend before Thanksgiving of 2010 I hurt my shoulder during a DEP PT. Was slated to ship August of '11. In June of '11 I backed out because the Orthopedist insisted I was a surgery candidate for "tendonitis with complications from hypermobility". I dropped from DEP. I later found out that the Orthopedist was a commie cunt, who was friends with my mother, who was very anti-me-going-military, and so he lied until I dropped. I was magically "healed" once I had dropped.
In 2013 I talked to Marines again, but injured my knee. Did not visit doctor, accidentally disclosed to recruiter. He stopped my paperwork and told me to chill the fuck out and get it sorted before starting anything.
Did some college, wasn't really for me (Just nothing I wanted to do, really). Ended up getting my EMT cert this fall, really like it, really like the idea of being a medic, think Army is gonna be for me.
Any suggestions/tips/advice on this path?
>>29751268
You want to start a career? Pick something that applies to the civilian word ei: intel, medical, civil engineer, air traffic controller (4 years in, get out, make $80k), aircraft maintainer partly qual's you to work on civilian aircraft but need to take a class for full cert.
You want to fuck off, travel the world and have fun, then get out and go to school for something else? Enlisted aircrew like refueller, flight engineer, loadmaster. I know one, he says he watches people load the plane then sleeps in a hammock during the flight. Also friends with serval other aircrew guys, its definitely the shit.
Otherwise you could get a job that will neither prepare you for civilian life or be enjoyable. These include services, security forces, finance, or other bs office job.
Maybe you want to be a soldier but not be treated like a pile of shit everyday? Believe it or not the air force actually combat positions like combat controller, TAC-P (guy on ground who calls in airstrikes), or Pararescue. These are special forces so be warned its difficult training.
>he didnt take the DLAB
enjoy not being in glorious monterey
>>29752211
68W will do nothing for you as a civilian and its peace time so you"ll basically just sit in sickcall looking at dudes blisters.
if you don"t want to do college pick an MOS that will get you a civilian job when you ETS.
68W fucks you in the ass more than most Army jobs man, you get as much as much responsibility a paramedic or trauma nurse but get out with a shitty emt-b cert.
>>29752532
Already have the EMT-B card, will specialize as 68W after doing time on Line. Looking at Flight Medic, possibly SOF Medics as options. Both I would come out with EMT-P.
Additionally considering switching to MEDCOM after time on Line and focusing on school, doing the PA program.
Why would you join any branch without going intel
Navy fag here. Does anyone know anything about the blue to green program?
>>29752717
Hospital corpsman?
>>29751903
join the Coast Guard
they are the only people actually doing anything
>>29750987
MAKE WAY FORTHE SECURITY FORCE!!!!!!!
HOW HARD IS IT TO JOIN THE ARMY
IM BAD AT MATH
>>29752679
why dont you just go to fucking school and get an LPN so you actually have financial security m8? Once you have some money saved up focus on getting an RN as a civvy or through a military nursing program.
Chances are if you join as a 68W you're not gonna get any of that fancy shit you want from the military and you'll get stuck as some faggot Specialist for 3-5 years looking at blisters and heat rash. There is NO guarantee your command will let you do shit or that you can even get that shit as a reenlistment bonus.
>>29752723
Boatswain mate
Operation blue to green? Transitioning from the navy to the army?
>>29752421
Another fyi: you need like eight years of experience to get a civilian atc job.
Go ahead, look em up on usajobs. Also, there are usually only about 40 spots available at any given time in the entire country.
>>29750188
I'll guess, you're 2nd brigade 1AD
>>29751704
>>how many PT studs in MI?
Just as many as any other CMF. A lot of guys I went to AIT with were athletes, and some were even wrestlers like I was (including a college wrestler).
will i be made fun of for having an insanely southern/hick accent? (east TN/north GA)
>>29752679
>will specialize as 68W after doing time on Line. Looking at Flight Medic, possibly SOF Medics as options.
Lol look at this faggot, thinking he gets to plan out his enlistment like he plans out his skill trees for his "toons" on his Em Em Ohs.
Fucking Christ homie.
Here's a real pro tip from someone who was already enlisted and ETS'd: Do not depend on getting to do anything or go anywhere that is not explicitly laid out in your enlistment contract. Because you're gambling with anything after that.
>>29752994
A different anon here: If you do MI and get out, you need at least a 2 year degree to get on with any company as a contractor. And if you're not willing to go to Trashcanistan, don't expect to hit even close to six figures.
And any federal non contractor job requires minimum four year degree just to get them to look at your resume unless you're a 20+ year SOF/SF veteran applying to CIA as a para military officer.
Is there any reason not to sign up for the initial 6 year term in the USAF? It seems you have every reason for a six year over a four. If you can do a four year stretch then a six year is just
as easy. You come out of BMT A1C right? '
What does that mean in a practical sense, coming out of BMT a rank above others? Will it mean less of the shit jobs, more seniority amongst yourselves?
>>29753421
>And any federal non contractor job requires minimum four year degree just to get them to look at your resume
Pretty much the truth... I work for materiel command, they don't want retards who just sat around for ~4 years playing video games and jacking off in the military.
It is funny how even now everyone thinks they're going to walk into an 80k dod job after they get out. It wasn't even true eight years ago when I eas'ed.
>>29753452
Wait, Tech School, not BMT.
>>29753453
>It is funny how even now everyone thinks they're going to walk into an 80k dod job after they get out.
It's because recruiters who never had those MOS hear about how the TS/SCI is going to set you up for life. And it's bolstered by the guys who got out before ~2010 when the rules for intel contractors changed and DoD started requiring Associate's Degrees and got decent gigs at CENTCOM as contract analysts.
So they tell all these kids this line of bullshit. I heard it too, from every single recruiter at the recruiting station and every social event that I went to.
It doesn't help that people think of the military as a job training program for kids who don't know what they want to do with their lives. In some ways it can be, I found out I actually wanted to continue working in the IC and it gave some "direction, but in the vast majority of ways it isn't. The military doesn't exist to train you for a job other than what you will be doing in the military, and the goal isn't to train you or give you job skills other than the specific MOS tasks you need to perform.
>>29753523
The only people I know who went straight to work for the dod with no degree were ballistics radar, my mos, supporting the cax training in Yuma. They also got out in 07; I remember back then KBR was still paying people 100k to drive forklifts in Afghanistan, a lot has changed since then.
>>29752840
wow uh, you should probably kill yourself
>>29749835
>McVeigh was in Army
Low class trolling
This is fucking random but I haven't seen a doctor in almost 10 years, i'm 23. (USA and uninsured till last month). I'm going to go as soon as I get info on the doctor I selected thru Bama' care. Will this blank medical history affect me in any way to get thru MEPs? Is there a window of "active" medical history I must have?
>>29750883
Peshmerga
>>29754630
nope, i said i never went to a doctor ever lmao and nothing's happened so far
>>29746757
Buddy o mine decided to do the "do-stuff reservist" thing for the last two years of his shit and got sent to Japan (yokosuka shipyards, I assume?) to teach radcon or something. And he wasn't even an ELT. And he was shit at radcon.
>>29753382
About as much as the New Yorker you'll be sharing a barracks with.
>>29754838
>tfw i heard myself recorded for the first time and it sounded like a retarded teenage george wallace
>>29751540
If you want a job in LE best thing to do would be go through the academy now and get a commission where you want to work. Keep your current job and when a position open in the deparment apply, theyre more likely to hire from the auxiliary officers they know, trust and have worked with, then some guy who has military experience.
> source I'm a dirty pig
> fuck the atf
I am a coast guard officer
>>29751672
>Not going to grad school in the military if you want an agency job.
Are people this retarded?
>>29753421
>>29753453
>>29753523
I literally made this transition last year and am now making 85k~ as a DOD civilian.
My secret? College courses for literally my entire 6 year enlistment (3 degrees), being shit hot at a highly technical job, and networking my balls off.
It can be done. It can't be done if you're a lazy fuck.
<tfw should've joined the military before going to college.
I'm a lazy ass and have a 2.6 GPA because I sleep through class, only get up when I have work. If I'd have joined the military, maybe I'd have gotten that taken out of me.
And now my GPA is too shit to become an officer, so now I'll never join.
>>29755450
>tfw when a dumbass
Hey, /meg/, will I get screwed if I do a three year stint in the military, then go to college, then go back into the military as an officer? I scored around 85 on my ASVAB, and I'm not totally physically inept. The idea seems a bit too good to be true, but I'm alright if I end up in some ass-end location while I'm a grunt. How could I get fucked over during this process?
>>29755450
Yeah you should have. You could have done a quick 4 and out and had that discipline and mgib or post 911 bill, whichever you chose for basically free college.
>>29754630
Your situation is preferable.
>>29746665
>tfw Rippits are cheap as fuck and you buy them buy the case
>>29755474
Why only 3 years? You won't get your college paid for.
>>29755785
Seriously? Even with benefits and stuff? How long would I have to stay in the airforce? I mean, time isn't really an issue for me, I just want to get a foot into the military and get help paying for college before I go in full time.
>>29755450
I graduated with a 2.8 from a CS program and I got selected on this last air force officer board, just waiting for an ots date now.
So I'm guessing you haven't actually tried to join. Disclaimer: I have six years of work experience in my industry.
>>29755785
You're eligible for the GI Bill after three years, tard.
God, you kids really need to stop shitposting.
leaving for ASVAB +MEPS, I'll let you guys know how it goes from the hotel tonight
>>29756400
Make sure you don't jack off today
>>29756400
Good luck. Just went awhile ago and sadly need a waiver to continue processing
>>29755785
Post 9/11 bill jackass
>>29746634
If I join national guard this year, what are chances i will be deployed in fight against ISIS?
>>29757008
zero
>>29753452
>>29753469
plz respond
>>29757090
Are you getting a sweet bonus if you do 6 instead of 4?
That's usually the only reason to commit yourself longer than necessary.
>>29757189
If I sign up six years I get Airman 1st Class 20 weeks after BMT instead of waiting longer.
>>29746634
Which is the best at home training for a military fit body?
>>29757696
Go out the house and run around until tired.
>>29757696
Do pushups in as many sets as you need to hit 200, same with situps, measure out a distance on Google maps to run around 1.5-2 miles, get a pull up bar and do whatever variations you can do until you can't. Hit some sprints if you want but don't over do it or you'll fuck your shit up.
>>29746634
Red pill me on 11B
>>29757875
>Pew pew pew
>Scrub scrub scrub
>Wait wait wait
>Pew scrub wait
Alright, /meg/.
As of a moment ago, these are the available MOS options for a new US army recruit enlisting in the ACTIVE army. Reserve stuff is different.
The list is everything a 99 ASVAB, 1s-across-the-board in your medical profile, can enlist in right now without delaying your ship date out for a year.
14E
14H
88M
91B
35N
68R
74D
92G
25U
42A
92F
15Q
12N
Can someone tell me about the army chemical corps? I've heard mixed about it. It's something interesting to me but I don't want to be stuck in a supply room passing out gas masks to retards
>>29758847
>I don't want to be stuck in a supply room passing out gas masks to retards
There's a reason the job is ALWAYS available.
Is 12b, option 4 a good idea? I'll have a bachelor degree by the time I enlist, so I'd be able to enlist at E-4 too
Army Warrant Officer here, currently sitting in the back of a 47. Will answer questions as time allows.
>>29758899
How hard is it to become a WO as a civvie, I asked my recruiter and he said it involves this whole process requiring recommendations and shit
>>29758768
68R Veterinary Food Inspection Specialist
There can't possibly be a dorkier job in the Army,
>>29758954
Yes he's correct. You will need LORs, plus the asvab, sift, pt test and a board of field grade officers recommendation prior to the actual HRC board. Took me about 7 months.
anyone here have any experience with 35N or 35P?
