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I am a regular patron over at the hood corner store. I just happened to shove a gun into my waistband before I headed over.

Some of the black nurses that I see in the area pulled up into the parking lot and I started chatting with them. As we were talking, a group of 10 people came up to the store on foot, looking shady. As I was talking to the nurses, one of them says that group of people is looking at you and talking about you, just a heads up. I told them thanks and went into the store. I was like I ain't worried and raised my shirt, exposing my pistol. All the nurses gave me the thumbs up.

So I go into the store and get my shit and leave. I'm walking out of the parking lot when a couple people from that group approach me for directions and some money. I told them I was fine and needed to leave. This made them mad and they started to follow me. I walked to my house and went through the front gate and onto my porch. They actually came to my property line and they said "are you SURE you don't have money?" I told them no and to go away. One of them had the balls to actually open my gate. I raised up my shirt and showed them the pistol in my waistband and told them to fuck off. However they are still hanging out in the area by my house.

Did I do anything wrong? Also, should I be in a defensive mindset?
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>>29741926
>Did I do anything wrong?
I don't think so.

>Also, should I be in a defensive mindset?
Yes.

>(What should I do?)
Write down their descriptions.
Size (how many)
Activity (from corner store to now)
Location (right now)
Uniform (how are they dressed generally AND what are they each specifically wearing, heights, complexion, etc)
Time (how long have they been following/waiting now)
Equipment (Idk I'm just using an old grunt acronym)


Then call the cops on 'em. Stay on the phone with dispatch while watching hoodlums out the window because the hoodlums will walk off, it's your job to tell dispatch what direction they are headed towards so unit can intercept.
Also, tell dispatch that they were threatening that "you better give them your money." It's a paraphrase that will actually turn their night from a "this white nigga at this house" to a "cops stopping us." This is good for you because if the COPS are the last issue they had then it won't naturally be YOU who was the last issue they had.


And OP, hurry up. Time's ticking.
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>>29741926
why were you even born?
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>>29741926
>flashing your pistol
>displaying confidence via the pistol like it's a magical amulet that protects you from harm instead of treating the pistol as an extension of your confidence and competence
>not finding a way to create a situation where you would be justified shooting every goddamn one of them for the good of your community
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>>29741926
>I was like I ain't worried and raised my shirt, exposing my pistol
That alone is against the law you fucking idiot
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>>29742040
>displaying confidence via the pistol like it's a magical amulet that protects you from harm instead of treating the pistol as an extension of your confidence and competence

You lost buddy?
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>>29742001
Don't want to get cops involved. There was no specific verbal threat, although I felt harassed. 1911 on my porch coffee table will do the trick.
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>>29741926
>Did I do anything wrong?
perhaps showing the nurses your piece, but other than that. no.
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>>29742055
That is not brandishing. Maybe if you into brass tacks it might be frowned upon, but I have a CCW. Just showing them the pistol in a non threatening way.
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Way to tell a pack of hood rats that you own guns, you dumb fuck.

Hope you like having your house broken into when you have to go out for more than 10 minutes.

Keep your shit in your pants and covered up unless it's go time.

Dumb shit.
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You shouldn't of shown them where you live
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>let them know where you live
>let them know you own a gun
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>>29742146
Who the fuck are you talking about? My friends are black, the weird group that showed up was all white.
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>>29742185
>they were white
sure buddy.
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>Showing them where you live

Did you NOT see the movie I am Legend?

Enjoy your house getting robbed next time you're out
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Also, I have 6 cameras posted all around my house recorded to an off site server. Gated door, barred windows. A lot of guns too. I'm not worried. I have the whole week off, so I always chill at the place with a gun in arms reach.

My neighbors all keep a watch out for one another.

The fact they followed me is something I wasn't expecting. And still, I left and they followed m, but at the same time I walked right around a blind corner and picked a spot where I would surprise them.

The black nurses gave me a heads up.

There's no I in team amirite
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>>29742185
Just because they're not black doesn't mean they're not hood rats, you imbecile.
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Pretty sure this thread is bait, but showing/brandishing your pistol to the nurses and then to the nig-nogs was a major misstep and illegal in many states.

Like another anon said, have fun having your guns stolen while you are at work. I wouldn't keep anything valuable in your house for about 6 months. Those nigs are definitely coming for your shit. As soon as you leave, Jamal will be breaking in the back door.
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>>29742200
I am totally not worried. Every single gun I have has insurance on it. In addition, my house is a straight up fortress. Motion activated cameras and flood lights, and my alarm is set to go off in certain areas of my yard if the alarm is set.
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>>29742230
I literally just showed the pistol to my friends, that's it.
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>>29742230
See>>29742233
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>>29742093
>"WHO'S GOING LEFT??"
You might not understand. Since you didn't call the cops on them, the nigs are now free to go do the same thing to some other person. They will keep doing this UNTIL someone calls the cops on them. Every time we let these shits get away with this stuff with absolutely no consequence, we are literally the faggots who just let this shit happen. Little gangs of thugs roam around harassing people because they don't get the cops called on them enough to make it a stupid idea.


I understand why you wouldn't want to get the cops involved though, given the circumstances and pt1911 and all.


I wish more white people would call the cops on more hoodrats CONSTANTLY. Cops are chemo to urban blight. I call them on fuckin everything I kind of legitimately can. Fuck hood people. I get mad.
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>/k/: where we go to validate our paranoia
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>>29742258
I mean.. If this a race thing, they were all white, and my black friends tipped me off, jussayin.
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>>29742240
>One of them had the balls to actually open my gate. I raised up my shirt and showed them the pistol in my waistband and told them to fuck off.
Yes, you did not threat level correctly. You done fucked up.
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>>29742271
>they were all white, and my black friends tipped me off, jussayin.

Things that never happened: the post
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>>29742258
Cops are worse than criminals in New Orleans. They are a mafia. Here in Nola we have an understanding that protecting yourself with guns is going to save your life, not NOPD officers. Average response time is 2 hours from them.
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>>29742251
What do you think they'll do with those guns, go tickle people's feet with them?

They're going to use them for aggravated rape, robbery, and probably to just rob one of those nurses next time since they wouldn't have to just ask. Cause now they'd have handguns instead of words.

But hey dude if you don't have them yet, snap detailed pictures of your firearms and serials and keep them on a thumb drive, just in case they do get stolen. You may not even want them back if they get stolen and recovered, but it will help the police identify recovered goods and immediately prosecute the person and get them into jail.

It's the responsible thing to do so it's okay if you're not willing to do it.
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>>29742240
And threatened the nogs with it. And even when showing to friends, if some other person saw it and was afraid or threatened, it would be brandishing. Learn the legal definition of brandishing, fucktard. May be legal in your area, may not be. You remind me of every faggot who buys a gun and has no idea, or even a concept, of what the legal use of force is, let alone other use of force specific laws apply in their area.
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>>29742285
I know you're posting from the internets, so your retarded assumptions are just going to be disregarded from now on.
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>>29742274
This. If he opened your gate and was trying to access your property you have every right to septuple tap the "totally not a dindu". A group of individuals followed you home and you showed them you're armed but too scared to do shit.

Hope you're a fan of cuck porn.
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>>29742304
You sound like the world's smartest person. Are you a member of Mensa?
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>>29742271
>I mean.. If this a race thing,
K I know for sure that you're /pol/ baiting now.
But for the casual reader, it is not a race thing. On 4chan, white means Caucasian and nig means African American.
This entire thing is that criminals, no matter WHAT race they are, should be immediately held responsible by the public citizen. it is our INDIVIDUAL responsibility to report shitbags to the cops in order to harass the shitbags into a different lifestyle. It takes a lot of harassing by cops to accomplish this. And it should NOT take a lot of victims. We all have cell phones, especially bystanders witnessing suspicious or potentially dangerous criminal activity.
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>>29742300
When did /k/ just become straight retard? This used to be a semi-smart board by 4chan standards. Too bad :(
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>>29742317
Okay guy who who lives in a city where the blacks are hard working, and the whites are criminals, who lives in a fortress with 5 different kinds of alarms and 12 cameras and barred windows and dogs and gates and a moat.

Your post is 5000% legit.
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>>29742320
Yeah. Another internet wizard. I'm a lawyer, and you are just an uninformed idiot.
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>>29742338
>When did /k/ just become straight retard?

When /pol/ released these stupid plans for deflecting board contents toward racial separation. Basically since then it has gotten just as retarded as /pol/ typically is


I just sage the stuff, now. But not this post.
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>>29742344
You are absolutely not a lawyer. There is no way someone with your intelligence level passed the bar. I'd bet $10000 you're talking out of your ass. You seem lost.
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>>29742370
>/pol/

Auto filter.
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>>29742349
To be fair it depends on the state. If he lives in most of the south then what he did won't be questioned.
>Followed and berated by group of 10 thugs.
>They won't go away.
>one begins to head onto property
>open fire, fearing for life

Oh, and if you're a lawyer let's see a degree.
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>>29742390
My law degree from Loyola has my name on it, I'll pass.
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>>29742344
You are unprepared.
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>>29742375
You're a fucking retard.
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>>29742400
The best preparation is living in a white area. I am prepared.
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OP here. Nothing that happened tonight affected my security level. There wasn't a scenario in this entire situation where I wasn't protected or took a proactive defensive stance.

I was former military, I feel like I'm getting a response from a bunch of civilians.
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>>29742383
K but what do you think about the actual topic?

Did OP do anything wrong? Should he be in a defensive mindset?
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>>29741926
Are you retarded? why in the ever loving fuck did you let them know where you live?
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>>29742420
What would you have done, human genius?
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>>29742395
>Loyola

At least it isn't Tulane.
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>>29742436
Just curious OP,

What type of information were you looking for when you started the thread?
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>>29742442
I live next door to the store, and I was followed. I wasn't in a car where I could run counter Intel. I walked to the store, left, and was followed.
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>>29742436
>I was former military

So wait, you're no longer former military? How do you renounce prior service? Are you trans-civvie?
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>>29742449
Situation developed right as the pertinent details arose.
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>>29742436
>unnecessarily giving away your position
>not neutralizing the threat
3/10

Also
>was former military
So you're active military now?
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>>29742447
I hear you bro.
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>>29742395
>I don't feel like posting proof.
Ok. I'll continue to believe that you're actually a hobo, with a stolen smartphone, stealing Walmart wifi then.
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>>29742449
(yous)
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>>29742465
Marine MP.

I really didn't think they'd follow me. I walked next door to the store, no need to drive. So in terms of egress, I had limited options.
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>>29742471
I really care about this post, big time.
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>>29741926
>Did I do anything wrong? Also, should I be in a defensive mindset?

you were being followed and led them to your home

like i'm sure nothing will happen but if you know your being followed i'd just lead them on a merry goose chase

or walk towards the closes police office or get in a cab and go for a spin somewhere

i dunno i wouldn't lead them to my home thats all
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>Goes home with enemy following him

> They know you have a gun

INB4 robbery, or they burn your house down,
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>>29742482
>MP
kys
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>>29742499
These guys are long gone, and I know every single police office that patrols the 2nd district on a first name basis.
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>>29742500
They didn't know I had a gun until he opened my gate.
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>>29742470
You still in the Chocolate City, stationed out of Belle Chasse?

Cuz I can imagine this happening in the Garden District or the Bywater.
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>>29742500
>burn my house down

That'd be pretty vindictive.
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>>29742482
I've been in that situation before. And it's like, you can keep walking home and wait for them to inevitably break off, or you can start trying to lose them. But you know that if you try to lose them you're just exacerbating the situation, so you keep walking home, and the little shits actually follow you the entire way.


OP I would have done the same thing you did. But yes you should not be surprised at all if your place is broken into during the next 3-6mo, if the kids live in the same area.

It probably won't happen, but don't be shocked if you do come home to a robbed house. It'd be smart to just get those ducks in a row if they aren't already.
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>>29742515
Audubon
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>>29742522
I guess this is constructive. For real though, I have an excellent security system and every single firearm I own is insured I am not worried at all. Every possible ingress point is barred, and covered by a camera too.
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>>29742076
A lot of people just have weapons and consider that a solution, like having it means you're safe now. Magical thinking.

It's like the difference between some dude having a tank division and Rommel having a tank division. Some dude will be like, "I'm fucking invincible/safe because I have these tanks," while Rommel recognizes the tanks are a tool to be used as an extension of a cultivated tactical ability and knowledge. Throwing tanks at the enemy isn't usually the solution -- in fact, the tanks are only ever one of many conduits by which Rommel achieves victory. The weapon in-and-of-itself is useless, but so many people treat weapons like magical charms that make them safe/tough/oper8or/secure/whatever, when in reality a weapon is just an efficient means of utilizing one's abilities to fulfill one's will. Unless it provided a tactical advantage, would Rommel flaunt his tanks? Shitty rulers have often done that, like "look at all my weapons bitch" and then get their ass handed to them. People who actually know the how, when and why of there use rarely do this. So flashing a weapon in a situation as described by OP conveys lack of confidence, lack of knowledge, lack of self- and external awareness, or pure naivety. At the very, very least, the nurses knowing he had a gun could have compromised him -- what if they decide to mouth off to the dudes and say, "oh yeah OP has a gun, don't you OP?" All of a sudden the enemy can alter tactics. All of a sudden OP has to deal with another variable -- emboldened friends. He loses optimal control of when/how/why to deploy putting himself and others at risk.
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>>29742524
Dang, close.

Used to date a gal who lived out there. Always called me when walking home because of the creeps that came out at night.

But for serious, might want to store that gat (and any other valuables) some place off site because now you're at a higher risk of your house getting robbed. Fuckin' New Orleans low life make honest living hard for sure.
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>>29742507
dude also see >>29742040

anyway this is a bait thread

lets just say that you do know every police officer on a first name basis in the precinct

that isn't going to stop you from going through the trauma of broken in having your shit jacked

the cops will investigate but getting your shit back is unlikely and then you have to go through the whole rigmarole of insurance claims getting your house fixed etc...

but you don't want to get the police involved right?

lol you don't have a concealed carry permit especially if your mexican carrying like you say you are

lol
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>>29742441
This

stick to topic
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>>29742558
Yeah. I'm on Magazine St. I have a small closet with thumbprint access on a steel reinforced door. Inside are safes.
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>>29742538
welp someone had to spell out what we all knew
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>>29742559
Let me clarify.

These douches are not targeting me in the property theft aspect. They were just being aggressive in panhandling. I am 100% faithful that my security system would handle things. HD cameras, motion activated floodlights, and perimeter trip system. There's no way that someone could enter my property and not be spotted. I have 2 semi autos stashed in strategic places around the house (M&P Pro 9mm and 1911) and a .38 S&W air weight on my nightstand. I'm the opposite of stressful.
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>>29742559
Also, I've been mugged at gunpoint about 3 yrs ago. That started me on gun collecting.

Mosul is less dangerous than New Orleans.
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>>29742635
as stupid as you think these aggressive pan handlers are they aren't going to do a home invasion while your at home

and even if your alarm goes of and rings through to a security company they probably have around 45 mins of time to ran sack your home

>muh guns and security
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>>29742635
You're gonna get your guns stolen and used in crime. Sure, they'll catch them and you won't get in trouble, but some people are gonna get mugged/raped/killed because you're playing it off as nothing. At least store the guns in a safe, preferably off site.
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>>29742635
Those cameras, if an intelligent addict were to B&E your home, would he be able to ruin your ability to record by simply wearing a facemask?

I'm a career security guy (it is sad I know) so I'm aware of response times and such, but I'm curious about the camera thing.

But dude it sounds like you have the good set up. Gate for layer 1 delay, motion floods for layer 2 deterrent, perimeter trip for layer 3 response, and HD cams for layer 4 response.

The ONLY way you could make that system better would be to bar the windows (did you already say they were?), have ground level lights on interior side of the fence, and have a safe room. I applaud your security practicality.
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>>29742719
I have a (semi) safe room, and every possible entrance is barred or gated.

All my cameras are HD, and I have street level cameras going both directions as well.
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>>29742756
>all these armchair /k/ommandos wishing he shot someone
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>>29742756
does the safe room have auto or is it just a civilian model
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>>29742055
he was on private property warding off a trespasser
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>>29742886
Don't completely understand but it's a defensive position room right next to my bedroom in the middle of my house with no windows and no windows where I can monitor my security cams.
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