There are only two countries in Asia Pacific with militaries approaching Western quality: Australia and the Philippines. No one else in the region has the same level of interoperability, equipment, training and experience.
Indonesia has Yakhont
>>29733027
Yes
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/11/world/asia/18-philippine-soldiers-killed-in-firefight-with-militant-group.html?referer=
>>29733027
You fucking tard.
I'm a flipfag and our military is US in Vietnam-tier, with relatively shitty pay grades.
Stop making us look like cunts with this shitposting, fiddy cent.
>>29733050
>Slavshit
Flips also have big, badass tanks
When you hear about any country in South China Sea resisting China, there is 90% chance it is the Philippines (other 10% is US and Australia)
They also use one of the most iconic gun in the world
Fuck off shitskin, you're trash just like rest. The Aussies would curbstomp you all if we gave them some encouragement
Nowadays the Armed forces of the Philippines (AFP) is in its aggressive mode to rearm and transform themselves into a capable conventional, network-centric forces, in the light of growing chink expansionism and neo-colonialism, as well as putting the armed forces in its rightful place; as the top dog of South East Asia
Among ongoing modernization programme (which is carried out under the Horozon initiative):
>new, state of the art R4 assault rifle
>new body armor
>new Korean-made LMG
>new armored vehicles(ACV-300, AV4) to complement existing fleets of M113s and V150)
>new Israeli 155mm howitzer
>at least 4 state of the art frigate to replace WWII vessels
>2 helicopter carrier/LHAs from Indonesia
>AW109 ASW helicopters
>MPA from japan
>F/A-50 multirole/maritime strike aircraft
>Sokol helicopter to complement UH-1s
>new transport aircraft (c-295, C-212) from indonesia
Also the legendary stealth gun
>>29733027
>Pinoy
If by quality you mean corruption and complacency.
>THE PHILLIPINES IS WHITE!!!11
It's embarrassing that you even think your nation is worth comparing to Australia tbhfam.
>>29733185
Wow did you just copy pasta my old thread?
I'm kinda flattered actually
This is a design on our future frigates. Top Kek
>>29733142
Is that Leman Russ tank?
We w40k nao
>>29733185
>All those cuck size patrol boats
China's new cutter probably displaces more than all of them put together.
>>29733234
Wrong image
Pinoys better get ready to prep the red bull
Philippines is the Finland of Asia
The men and women ready to fight chink aggression
>>29733234
I try to avoid calling 50 cent but I think we have a bona fide chicom ITT.
>>29733268
>cafgu
The Philippines is definitely the most trustworthy US ally in the region. Can't trust those Chink races and Japs
The Philippines is the only country demonstrating regional leadership against China
>The only ones with the clear line against China:
Vietnam. Philippines yours truly
>Yeah, we're claiming the same area, but we can work with China
Malaysia, Brunei.
>Friends of China
Laos, Cambodia, Thailand.
>Not my fight tier
Indonesia.
>Pretends to not like China.
Singapore.
>Pariah tier
Burma.
>>29733269
>I have no argument whatsoever
Sorry, your cucktubs are going to be roadkill :^)
>>29733027
>Japan isn't just a small US level mil that will soon expand into approaching
>>29733342
>Japan
>useful in a real fight
Just an oversized Singapore with emasculated beta men
>>29733295
What's the story behind this?
>>29733392
Suicide.
CAFGU are filled with nutcases on government payroll.
>>29733258
meaning what? they are fucking antisocial mongols?
Filipinos are based
>>29733185
This is all fantastic m8, but that's barely a start in modernizing. Flipland needs a LOT more than that to remain a power in SE Asia, and that stuff on the list barely makes it. I'm %99 sure this is pasta I've seen before so I'm not going to bother responding to the individual shit again.
>>29733433
Maybe if Dutdut wins he can purge some of the shit in the Flip congress.
>>29735755
Anyhow to go into a more comprehensive list of what Flipland really and truly needs,
>AA systems that are at least somewhat new, the Flips have no SAMs to speak off
>Same goes with anti-ship missiles
>And more jets, 12 SK light jet fighters does not make a modern air force
>ATGMs, just buy TOWs or whatever shit they come out with these days
>Replace the 'Nam era M16s and M60s
>Issue plate carriers to the more elite units at the least
>Buy more modern/semi-modern ships, at this point anything would help since the Philippines needs to make its presence known naval wise if they're going to hold any of their territory
>Acquire more arty, because you can never have enough
>Improve coordination between cops and the military so shit like those 44 SAF officers getting whacked doesn't happen again
Seems like reasonable goals to me.
>>29735797
Also, build/acquire more drones. Should help with finding jungle muzzies.
>>29733423
Are those M1 Garands converted to fire 7.62 NATO and have 20 round drtachable magazines or do they still use en bloc clips and 30-06?
>>29735810
To my knowledge those are old M1s. CAFGU uses some pretty old shit to my knowledge, though the idea of removing muzzies and commies with M1s and Thompsons is slightly appealing.
Actually after combing through some photos, that may be an M14.
>>29735810
En bloc. I've spoken to some CAFGU's before - ex Philippine Constabs mostly- and they said it's "Treinta Y Seis." So it's .30-06
>>29733246
>>29733234
>wrong image.
>arrogant Chinese colonist businessman.
I think you are more accurate then you think.
>>29733319
>can't trust the japs.
Are you legitimately retarded or what?
Fuck off Mudspic, you want Americans to love you, you should have never rebelled and let us genocide half of y'all and put the rest in reservations for you to turn into casinos.
Because the chinks will rape y'all because we'll be too busy having cucks in the white house too afraid to get into another war.
>>29735884
>y'all
>>29735844
>>29735855
How much is the pay for being a paramilitary? I've had interests in probably helping some friends abroad there directly. I don't have combat experience but I have plenty of experience with engineering and survival innawoods of El Yunque.
>>29733027
The Flip army is closer to African military rather than European. They don't even have an Air Force. Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia all have better military than the Philippines.
>>29733185
The F/A-50 Golden Eagle is a Korean trainer jet not a real fighter.
>>29735944
I wouldn't know, I'm an American half-Flip with interest in the region who's visited on occasion.
>>29735994
>Don't even have an air force
That's changing, albeit at a much slower pace than I would like.
>>29735884
They love us regardless m8, and frankly despite the amount of work it would take I wouldn't mind having Flipland come closer to us militarily. Wouldn't mind having Subic bay re-opened. Also
>Let us genocide half of y'all and put the rest in reservations
You appear to be confusing flips and native Americans.
>>29736019
Well it does have the ability to mount weaponry if it needs to, its a decent stopgap for the moment (the Finns did something similar with trainers in the first part of the Cold War). Honestly though I do think that it would be better if the Flips invested in much more dedicated fighter aircraft.
>>29736065
Like Kennedy said: having is second best air force is like having a second best hand in poker - it wins you nothing and only costs dough.
>The Finns did the same
Yes. 60 years ago.
>>29736050
I think he's talking about the Filipino-American War, anon. The US army (Mainly composed of conscripted Nig Nogs) rounded the civvies up and put them in concentration/internment camos (One or the other).
>>29736114
>Concentration camps
Was that everywhere or just Mindanao? If so it didn't appear to be very effective if the goal was genocide.
>>29736108
Hey I'm just saying having some shit to defend yourself with is a hell of a lot better than nothing.
>>29736161
I'm not sure if it happened everywhere but the goal of it was to prevent the civvies from aiding the rebels and what not (Just like WWII with the Japanese internment camp). Either way, conditions were much worse than the internment camps in WWII and a good amount of Flips died from disease, severe unhygenic home and body conditions and starvation (According to my history book, disease would make sense, not so sure about starvation as the US and their facilities were well fed).
>>29736019
Most Filipinos believe it is sufficient to give them parity with Sukhois and F-16s in the region
>>29735797
>be flipfag
>want a humvee in desert of jungle green paintjob
>not wanting to be ambushed by commies/turbokebab and beheaded on camera
life is hard
>>29733027
>approaching Western quality: Australia
m8...
>>29733027
You are literally full of shit.
I was down in Jolo/Zamb. They suck huge dick.
And theyre faggots.
I'm a Malay from Malaysia. Muslim too. Frankly, I want Flips to get their shit together by firstly pacifying the southern regions. Malaysia has done all it can to bring peaco accords between Sulu rebels and Manila. But we have come to the conclusion that a more forceful approach must be taken aka the Sri Lanka solution. You have half of your country off limits to development. Clean up your house first. Malaysia is buying 18 littoral mission ships on top of the 6 Gowind frigates being constructed to replace older vessels. Maybe the Flip gov can buy our old ships which are still better than what you have now.
>>29733391
We are descendants of the American military tradition, with better technology than China already.
But Flips kill Canadians
>>29742171
>But Flips kill Canadians
Damn
>>29735944
You can''t into paramilitaries if you're not a Philippine citizen.
>>29742005
>the Sri Lanka solution
you call that a fucking solution... I mean, they didn't have much of a choice, but it's hardly a solution
>>29742059
and a constitution that prevents you from actually using that technology
Australia is a west nation tho.
Also flippies are fucking awesome, so are the japs.
Chinks seem to like doing what Japan did in 1930s.
Proves chinks are a good few Decades behind japs.
>>29736019
F/A-50 has comparable performance abd capability as JAS-39D and is capable of carrying advanced munitions (AIM-9X, AMRAAM/Derby, JDAM, Harpoon as well as other laser/IR/gps guided munition). Having targetting pods also means that no buddy-lasing is necesary
This isn't some make-believe fighter jets like hawk 200,M-346 or L-159. This is a legit MRCA. Once worst korea finished developong their own AESA (because Lockheed Martin being an asshole), you can expect similar development like what the swedes are doing with their Gripen NG
>>29742005
>aka the Sri Lanka solution.
>genociding your own people.
k.
>>29742690
>and a constitution that prevents you from actually using that technology
Have you've been living under a rock? The Japanese Parliament revised their constitution and repealed the 9th article.
>http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0F52S120140701
>>29743267
>pretending they're human
>>29733185
I thought Philippines would get Gripens
>>29733027
unfortunately i live in PH i can really confirm soldiers here have " training and experience" as we battle Muslims in Mindanao on weekly if not everyday. plus the "balikatan" or shoulder-to-shoulder exercises annually. and believe it or not. numerous airport here are being converted into air force base by US and naval yards are being constructed.
as to our equipment. they're actually given by us gov't. most of them are decommission hardware dated from Vietnam war era.
>approaching western quality
i highly doubt that
>>29735884
>Fuck off Mudspic, you want Americans to love you, you should have never rebelled
Wat
>>29743267
Kinetic approach alone is never going to work. Hell it was the reason why the rebellion started in the first place during Marcos era.
They are filipino just like the people up in Luzon and yet the government did nothing to help them at all. The peole lack access to even the basic form of healthcare,education and secure employment, and yet people wonder why plenty of youth over there resort to crimes and rebellion.
Now,because the the act of few, the entire southern philippines is on the brink of suffering because Malaysia have closed their waters and cut off the barter trade. Despite their harsh action, the reason is simple and hard to refute; Why would Malaysia help them if the only things they've got in return is armed intrusion on their soil and a series of kidnappings of their nationals?
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/blockade-southern-philippines-hurts-families-160422174647079.html
>>29735797
>>29743290
Nope
>>29743391
correction soldiers in mindanao is better than luzon and vizayas combined. as the southern iland part the mindanao is at constant conflict because of religion.
google search > Christians vs Muslims in Mindanao.
>Philippines
you're forgetting about the shitting operating in the Manila hostage crisis a few years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRt1aNsNM0c
>>29736050
>half flip
>they love us
>us
>>29733102
>approaching
>>29736019
Well, of course. You'd rather buy trainer jets instead of the real ones for a developing country.
>>29744457
>shitting
>only country to have confirmed kills against China in the last decades
>>29744534
A reminder that india will become a super power by 2030
>>29735797
What the flips really needs
>rooting out all the turncoats and corrupt personnel from rank and files as well as officers
>body armor that actually fits flip soldiers (they're a bunch of manlets even compared to SEA countries)
>helmets
>more mortars; 60mm, 81mm and 120mm for area denial as well as targwt neutralization. Also it would be a lot easier to transport using them decrepit Hueys.
>More M113s with 20mm gun preferably.
>modern AFV with a big gun(at least 90mm), IR/thermal and automatic turret. Indonesia's Badak would be sufficient enough
pic related
>new COIN aircraft that can drop modern munition (AGM-65 and LGBs). Malaysia approach to sulu intrusion (when diplomatic channel went to shit) is to send their ninjas with laser designators and target the the gravity of mass of the group while their hawks drop tons Mavericks and Paveway on them motherfuckers. The military/police are placed in strategic position to contain rebel dispersion while their mortars simutaneously rain down on the intruders to avoid them regrouping
>>29745258
>they're a bunch of manlets even compared to SEA countries
Lelno. Viets, Cambos, and Lao are even smaller.
The Phillipines is literally fighting Islamist and Communist guerrillas in their own country. That's not something a Western quality army has to put up with.
>>29736772
The US authorities actually didn't give much food to the people they put in the camps during the Philippine Insurrection. They starved them to force them to do what they wanted, like tell them where the rebels were and who the rebels were.
