Haven't seen an Australia thread in a while.
Did you attend a service today?
How are you celebrating today?
Will be bumping with Australian/ANZAC related stuff. Let's not worry about the NFA for a bit.
bump
OP's great-grandfather, and the bayonet that was issued to OP's great-uncle.
>>29729573
ex army here.
Attended the footy last night and service this morning followed by breakfast/ frothies.
Was great to meet older servicemen and women and realise how fucking easy we had/have it.
Unfortunately overheard some edgy teenager talking about how ANZAC day celebrates violence last night on the train,
...i was tempted to stone cold the slut desu
>shooting an smle with a rest
You fuckin poof
>>29730357
>got to take the history class 'Australians at war' at school
MFW the teacher showed up with a .303 on day 1
>>29730340
Melbourne?
Also, Kapyong day yesterday. You fucks.
>>29730377
fuckin noice, where was that? Lots of places wouldn't allow it
Went to represent my school today in a march, AMA
I have a broken tooth and I hate the dentist more than I hate pain, so I'm in pain right now. I shouldn't say right now, I broke it about a year ago so the pain comes and goes.
Work on Sat was tight, did something different and hosted a Cat M crossbow course. It's growing so hopefully in a year or two we may have a small community of crossbow people.
Went shooting Saturday night and Sunday arvo. Saturday night was my first time shooting at a live animal
>>29729573
They shall not shit post,
as we that are left shit post.
Memes will not weary them,
nor reddit condem.
At the going down of the sun
and in the morning
We will remember them.
Was in the firing party for a local town near my base. Even though the announcer mentioned there was a firing party, and we were clearly formed up with weapons, many people still stood right in front of us.
They moved pretty quick when we loaded the volleys though
>>29730650
weird lookin rabbits
Why are their no parts interchangeability between the EF88 and the F90?
>>29730720
Wallabies mate. Legal to shoot in Tasmania
>>29730650
Tasmania>
>>29730730
Where abouts? so many tasmanians on /k/
>>29730724
Err... what? To which part of the weapon system are you referring?
>>29729573
This is so bizarre.
i feel like an austronaut.
exploring the australian side of the internet.
hello mates
>>29730745
That was taken on a property at crab tree
>>29730730
Why are you killing wallabies?
>>29730775
Pest control. Also dog meat
>>29730754
Noice, you study at utas?
There is a rifle you all have made by someone starting with a W.
It looks like an AR but it has a sidecharger and looks more like an AR18 style mechanism but is straight pull apparently.
Do they make those in semi automatic
>>29730795
Na mate.
>>29730800
Warwick firearms. WFA1 and no they don't make it in semi automatic. They had to make sure that it couldn't be converted to a semi auto to get it passed in most of our states
>>29730814
I'd like to hear from a competent gunsmith what the practicalities of such a conversion would be.
>>29730800
Warwick have made real ARs before but they're ungodly expensive, like $7000
>>29730823
I would love one of the Warwick WFA guns in semi auto. It looks like a cool design but if there is no provisions for a gas tube or something I have no idea how it would work.
Someone should make a copy in semiauto and sell it here.
Can you/they get semiautos with a license or special paperwork or is it just banned outright?
>>29730822
I don't know why you would bother really.
>>29730839
Semi auto rim fire is cat c
Semi auto centrefire is cat d
Both are unavailable to recreational shooter's
>>29730823
>>29730839
I have used a few of the Warick AR's, well the first batch they came out with, apparently the newer ones are a different design.
They work well enough and do the job, they are DI and I personally prefer piston, but as I said they do the job.
>>29730839
Yes and no. You can get semi auto if you "need" it. So primary producers can get them if they have a pest problem, and professional cullers.
I have a semi auto licence but as a firearm safety instructor, so those guys go through me first. The shitty thing is that an instructor can't get an import permit approved, whereas they can.
So I'm stuck with old shitty stuff and then they get nice new stuff.
>>29730864
Interesting. Its nice to know they are not outright banned and there is ways to own them.
So would you see AK's and AR's at a standard local gun store for sale or rent? Or is it mostly the domestically produced stuff that the average joe can own like lever actions and what not?
>at the Dawn Service
>have attended every year for the last 20+ years
>the host introduces the minute silence
>four or five different prayers
>theres a jackass with a selfy stick
>the anthem is sung but not the NZ anthem
>'freedom isn't free' is actually said twice
>not going next year
>>29730789
lol since when are wallabies pests
>>29730890
I've never seen any ar's or Ak's on the shelf. Most of the time restricted firearms aren't in view
>>29730746
I read on /k/ that their is no parts commonality between the EF88 (domestic) & the F90 (export). I don't know the details, so that's why I'm asking.
>>29730902
Since Tasmania declared them as a pest. They have ideal growing conditions and no natural predators. So they breed in plague numbers, one of the shooter's on King Island gets around 500 every time he goes out
>>29730902
Since the tasmanian tiger was hunted to extinction and there was nothing left to keep population in check.
>>29730919
what is the australian equivalent of an AR15 or AK like as far as whats in common use
Is there a semi version of the F88 for sale
>>29730940
None and no.
The number of people who can own shit like that in Australia is like...100
>>29730940
The sks was really popular before the buy back. Now I'm not really sure since you can't use a semi auto rifle for target shooting at a range. Legally they can only be used for primary production or if you are a professional shooter and need it for culling
>>29730890
Not exactly. I used to work at a large store (even by US standards) and we have a few, but generally older stuff.
A gun store can't import semi autos just because, they can only import once the customer (the farmer or culler) has been approved, so any *new* (as in factory new) semi autos in the shop will be already sold and usually picked up straight away.
Personally I've seen, shot, and handled a lot more semis than probably most Aussie shooters (aside from military) which is cool. But as a rule, lets just say no semi auto rifles or shotguns in Aus.
>>29730966
>>29730962
>>29730958
So what is most popular? Enfields? Lever rifles?
>>29730932
I can't see why, the trigger mech will be different (ie for civilian you'll have a non adjustable lock out). But for full funs it'll be the same....
>>29730979
Bolt action rifles. At least at my club
>>29730900
>they think about you for one day a year because it's trendy
>you think about them every day, every year because they're your brothers
Fuck this piss-weak generation. With a fire-rake.
>>29730979
Bolt actions really. For a while pump action rifles (the remington 7615 and 7600) were extremely popular, they still are I guess, but slowing down in sales. Lever actions.. eh they are popular but really for the older crowd.
>>29730814
only to the point of where the tools and know how needed to make it semi auto could also just be used to make a whole new gun.
>>29731001
Dude who gives a shit?
It's the one day of the year you get to see mates you haven't seen for the better part of half a decade.
People 30 years ago felt the same way. Shit doesn't change as much as you think it has.
Theres still a few ak's and sks floating around in private hands in WA. I've also seen some recently imported Chink shit. Hardest thing is to get ammo but I know a few old boys with buried cans who will defend them with their life
>>29731033
Why is it hard to get ammo?
Are handguns exempt from semiauto laws
>>29730979
https://www.usedguns.com.au/
should give you the best idea
>>29731033
This is not something you should advertise. Even on 4chan.
>>29731037
We still have handguns yes.
He's meaning x39 ammo, since no one here really imports surplus stuff so if you want it, you really have to buy factory stuff.
>>29731037
Yes as long as you have a handgun license. Can only use it at a range unless you have it euthanasia as a primary producer
>>29731037
Maximum of 10 rounds and nothing above .39/9mm though.
Have to do a certain amount of competitions per year as well.
>>29731059
You can get .45 provided your club hosts competitions that require it
>>29731047
I dont think the australian secret police is monitoring 4chan.
Everyone who had semiautos before the ban or reclassification, did they keep the guns?
>>29731059
>Can have a .357 Magnum but not a .45 ACP
Stralya.
You can get higher calibers in some states but it's more comps / paperwork.
around 2 mill semis are buried in backyards all over
>>29731098
Well thats no fun.
When is the next revolution I will gladly come over to participate
>>29731020
Not your mates, fuckface. The public.
>>29731103
we all wish you would send some big hitting progun help down here to do it so we don't resort to that
>>29731088
A lot did, yes. Fucktonnes of SKSes and stuff. Significant historical family weapons did as well, cause the compensation was so shit for them.
We held an ANZAC service here this morning in Afghanistan with our Aussie bros.
Took my new M305 out for its first few rounds, and roughly sighted in my TRS25 on my AR. Good morning all round.
>>29731088
Still, you never know.
Yea heaps. I remember talking to my old boss one day and a few key points. He said at that time there was something like 2.3mil sks/skk's type 63s etc imported and in total in the buyback there was only 900k? something like that.
Also at that time they were selling PVC pipe and End caps as 'map holders' and they couldn't actually buy enough end caps from wholesalers.
That year whoever makes PVC and sells it made a boatload of coin.
>>29731144
Once God-emperor Trump becomes the eternal leader, we will make sure we come to liberate you from your anti-fun captors.
>>29731152
thank you for your serbice
>>29731187
cervix*
Watch out for an all-new Aussie made gun released in 8 days.
http://www.covenanterarms.com.au/
>>29731116
Who gives a fuck what they think?
Fuckface.....
>>29731212
>http://www.covenanterarms.com.au/
If it's not a 10/22 in lever action with a 30rd detachable magazine and cat A in every state i'm not interested.
>>29731221
Don't pretend like you don't, champ.
>>29731230
Why the fuck would he?
You knew going in that most Australians are ambivalent at best about the ADF. You're not going to get the US level of asspatting from the public.
>>29731225
>30 round
>Cat A
try a different action type.
>>29731166
640k guns were handed in. Only a 1-2 states actually kept tally of the types handed in. 3% of Victorian arms surrendered were Cat C/D
>>29731276
There's no restriction on capacity for cat a
>>29731276
Cat A (in queensland at least) has no magazine restriction.
It's a weird grey area though. Because you have the PWS T3 or Ruger 96/22 for example which are Cat A, so no magazine restriction right? Well the mag they use is the 10/22 magazine which is Cat C or if it was 30 round then it's Cat D, so you can't import a 30 round magazine for the PWS or 96/22 because it's also a higher category.
Fucked right?
>>29731286
Well hey, just goes to show how many guns there are out there really.
>>29731297
A magazine can't be a category
>>29731287
Maybe in your state. You'll find there is in nearly every other. Rip.
>>29731307
Different categories have different magazine restrictions... So yes, certain magazines fall under certain category restrictions.
Depending on the state of course, this is QLD.
>>29731314
the magazine changes the classification of the rifle not the other way around?
>>29731337
Yes. So lets do a scenario. Again, QLD, I can't speak for other states. You're a farmer and have your Cat C but not Cat D licence and you have bought yourself a nice 10/22. In QLD Cat C is semi-auto rimfire up to 10 round capacity. You've 'acquired' a ruger 25 round magazine (for your ruger 96/22 of course). If you put that magazine in your 10/22 that turns it into a 25 round capacity firearm and now Cat D. Illegal, prison, big black man uses you as a toy.
>>29731355
Yep the firearm category is changed because of the capacity not because a cat xyz magazine was inserted into it.
>>29731376
Well that's what I meant. But in saying that, a 30-round AR magazine is generally called a Cat D magazine since you need a Cat D magazine to purchase it in QLD. So while maybe not the most accurate term, it's the easiest way to describe it. At least when in retail and instructing.
>>29731225
Those already exist though. Ruger 96/22s can take the 30 round 10/22 magazines.
>>29731307
Customs likes to classify them as "Cat C/D" magazines. Which is why I can buy 30 round AR mags for my pumpy at the shops but can't import them without having a Cat D licence and doing some other paperwork.
>>29730748
Ah Mate,
Sorry but you can't use that word,
That's our word.
>>29731402
They sure can!
>>29731225
they said tactical meets practical 22lr its got to be pump action or no ones going to buy it
>>29731287
15 in Vic
>>29731468
But it says australias favourite calibre, 303 or 303-25 is our favourite calibre.
>>29731230
Why the fuck would I?
What's the name of the rifle that has the switch/lever release for the bolt to cycle, I forgot to save the link for it.
>>29731581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMOABUq3FmQ
>>29729573
spent the day looking after my week-old son
cheeky shit was actually due today but decided he'd get the drop on us last weekend
>>29730340
>ANZAC day celebrates violence
Should have told the cunt you'll see them on August 6 for 'nuke the nips' day.
>>29731495
its a 22lr go on there facebook
>>29731581
things 3.5k go buy a wfa1 and convert it to pump action and keep the change
>>29731812
I'm not going to buy one and I will probably get the WFA1 but I also just got a Lithgow crossover so it'll be a couple of months before I order I think.
'96 never again!
Bring back semi's!
Fuck howard with a hot poker!
David Leyonhjelm Best Leyonhjelm!
Had to get that off my chest.
>>29731495
308 is australias favourite calibre.
>>29731355
Prison my ass. Unless the cops rock up on ur property while the mag is in the gun you can just deny. mags arent registered afaik.
>>29731877
>David Leyonhjelm
S A V A G E
A
V
A
G
E
Fuck I hope he sticks around in the senate for a long time, his shit-stirring alone is worth a senator's salary
>>29731852
>lithgow crossover then wfa1
this is my shopping list for the year desu
>>29731977
praying the double dissolution doesnt knock him out
>>29729573
I spent the day working in a bar, it was good shooting the shit with servicemen and getting paid good money to do it.
>>29731009
Well if you take the anal rentative view point any gun could be converted into a full auto or semit auto if you are willing to consider being converted as reused the barrel and threw the rest away.
>>29731977
You've got some good taste then, what do you have at the moment.
I'm tossing up between an smle, alfa carbine/circuit judge or a lever gun after that but I'm not too sure.
>>29731039
Anyone had luck with this site? Planning to get my first handguns off it and was wondering about other people's experiences.
>>29729573
How does one qualify for Cat C or D license, I'd love a walk through that doesn't involve buying or working at a farm.
Also when are Australians going to bother campaigning for "Self Defense" to be a lawful reason to apply for a license and own a firearm?
>>29730823
Why do Australian people and businesses drastically overprice every single thing I ever see them sell? I compare some prices here in the US to AU and even when factoring in conversion rates plus shipping on top (that's not even taking into account the fact you get shipping cheaper for mass import) and Australians add an extra $1000-$2000 on items that would usually cost $1000 AU after conversion. Why is this? Do they not understand lower prices = more sales = larger profit in the end? Why overprice something to get a quick buck from a couple of people who will spend $3000 when you could sell it to 50 people for $1000 each and make more money?
>>29730990
>>29731005
>Bolt actions
Disgusting. How would you defend yourself with a bolt action?
>>29732127
There's likely less than 1000 people in Australia with a Cat D license to shoot animals. There is no lower price = more sales. There are no more sales.
>>29731048
No, you can only use it on a range and there is no exceptions.
>>29732109
>not working at a farm
I hope you like shooting dogs then.
>>29732152
Plenty of wild dogs to shoot.
>>29731088
So... You're a criminal scumfuck then? Why not gather petition the government and try to change the law to something more logical when it comes to firearm laws, self defense, etc rather than becoming a criminal which literally means you are putting yourself in the same category as most on /k/ own guns to protect themselves against.
>>29732139
>There is no lower price = more sales
Uh... Yes there is. It's basic economics.
>>29732175
Do you even understand niche markets?
They are expensive because there's not many people to sell to and not much stock.
>>29732052
>what do you have at the moment
noguns atm but i've wanted both for a while now
had licence for a while but moving house and a kid got in the way of acquiring funs
>>29732109
>that doesn't involve buying or working at a farm.
Aren't your only options that and being a professional pest shooter?
I thought about buying a big bush block somewhere (so I'd have my own private reserve to take my boy on weekends/holidays) but that isn't enough from what I've read - shit has to be your income or some bs
It'd be less fucking around to hop the ditch and live among the kiwis from what I was seeing.
Gun laws in Australia are illogical. Some interesting shit for you guys to take a look at below.
http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/diggers-lives-endangered-by-australias-gun-laws/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYrMlMgVasY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WtBHa_Y9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHGit3zF808
>>29732204
Wow thanks m8
I'll just go singlehandly change the laws. Its not like I have already being investing significant personel effort and resources in this for fucking years.
>>29730340
>Unfortunately overheard some edgy teenager talking about how ANZAC day celebrates violence last night on the train,
The modern ANZAC day is a complete slap in the face of it's original meaning and the WW1 veterans who warned against jingoism.
Howard turned ANZAC day into "Nationalist military worship wank day" based around basically an entirely made up version of Gallipoli where the entire point of ANZAC day it to recognize the uselessness of war, especially one where we lied to young men who had no clue, sent them to die in a battle that was 100% pointless, for British imperial gains.
If you "Celebrate" ANZAC day as some sort of nationalist holiday and "Those people fought for our FREEEEDOM" you mayswell be pissing on the graves of WW1 vets.
>>29732229
Australians do not push hard enough at all. Not even close. Take a look at the NRA then look at SSAA or SFP in Australia and the Australians are doing nothing at all. Sitting around and waiting for someone else to do it or things to magically fix themselves as usual. Australians are incredibly lazy when it comes to this sort of thing and always fall back on the "She'll be right" or "Can't change it, that's the way it is. This is Australia!" attitude which is just crazy and sad.
Also when it comes to things such as semi-auto, self defense, etc too many Australian gun owners are split which in itself causes no laws change or things to progress. The fact gun owners themselves are telling the government "Yes, please take away my rights to own specific guns and take away my right to own a gun to defend myself against a criminal that will have a gun regardless of the law!" is also sad.
>>29732204
yep the facts are all there yet we have loonies in power and even some shooters who try push these bullshit laws and not many at all are doing anything about it
>>29732204
Wait wtf did I just read that right in that video? I'm not from Australia but "Personal protection is no reason to have a gun". Am I reading that right?
Pic related.
>>29732376
hahahah you aussies know this is exactly what the Nazi's, Stalin, Mao and all other dictators did to their people right??
>>29732156
Then it's time to get a job in the government in pest control or get a job at a pest control company that has a government contract. Depending on your state, in QLD that's the only way to do it without working/owning a farm as a primary producer.
>>29732397
then hand it back in once your job is finished kek
>>29732388
Nazis were pro gun except for jews. Hitler made firearms more accessible for germans.
>>29732397
I'm a shit shot lel
>>29732459
>Nazis were pro gun. Hitler made firearms more accessible for germans.
Hahahahaha. Typical Australian, literally doesn't even realize he is being cucked by anti-gun lobby. Disgusting.
>>29732459
u wot m8?
I hope you trolling.
>>29732476
>>29732482
what.
i know australia is cucked. but stop making up bs about the nazis.
it's literally a "firearm laws in nazi germany" google search away.
they were national socialist, not commie socialist.
>>29732459
do you get your information from buzzfeed and salon? because thats the only place I've ever saw that kind of leftist retarded shit posted.
>>29732492
>>29732459
Being national socialists has nothing to do with it. One of the first things Hitler did was take away gun rights from the people so they did not have the possibility to rebel.
Yes, a lot of people had guns in Nazi Germany, because a lot of people were in the military/SS/etc. But guess what? Those people ENFORCED the no guns policy. They were not exercising freedom of ownership. They were doing their job to suppress the people.
>>29732492
thanks for a good laugh anon. you almost had me for a second.
>>29732492
>doesn't even know when he is reading anti-gun propaganda
I'm ashamed of you. Liberal media sure has brainwashed Australia.
>>29732511
>>29732519
You've been watching too much fox news and NRA debaters.
Hitler was progun and the good guy.
>Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition."[9]
>The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[10]
>Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[10]
b-but hitler was antigun :(((
nope
ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany#Gun_regulation_of_the_Third_Reich
>>29732538
>links to a wikipedia page that is anti-gun propaganda so leftists can try claim bullshit.
You do realize you are doing the anti-gun lobbies work for them right? You might as well hand in your guns now and bend over. That guy earlier talking about Australians doing nothing about gun laws and even firearms owners being backwards sure was fucking on point.
>>29732538
You've been reading too much Buzzfeed, Salon, Huffington Post and watching too much of "The Project" buddy. When are you planning your transition into a woman?
>>29732552
>>29732569
>literally hating the nazis and the greatest society on earth because they were progun
fuck off gun grabber
i like guns and i like nazis, and most progunners agree with me, thats why we buy k98s
>>29732538
GTFO off /k/
>>29732579
>Calls someone a "gun grabber" after you're literally preaching anti-gun BS
M8 is your head on straight?
>>29732594
>bending over backwards to appeal to mass media and jews
lol how spineless are you?
>>29732579
>>29732603
>projecting
>>29732204
HOLY shit. This is real?
>>29732604
>>29732614
all you spineless cunts out in force because of anzcuck day?
we fought for the wrong side and you know it.
under nazi rule we'd have better gun laws than we do now, mull that over while you wank yourself off with the union jack.
>>29732538
>Right wing and NRA are bad.
>Left wing and anti-gun propaganda is good
>Literally gaping your asshole for a transgender anti-gun leftist cock to fill you up.
Can I play?
