America and China go to war. What happens, and how fucked is China?
>>29716544
>how fucked is China
BAHAJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
America die horrible deaths and get BTFO
china has stronger military by far, we have better capability in the region for destroying USA naval forces.
We have morr men morr resources and more willpower. we are not military of fag and crossdresser with fat stomach and no morale.
we even outcompeting the americans with missile and airplane technologies
>>29716576
Why do you make shitty copies of everyone else's guns in weird chamberings?
>>29716576
>implying the chink nation could beat the strongest army in the entire world
>>29716576
>t. Ming Sook Dic
>>29716544
There is already a thread on this.
>>29712745
>>29716589
You tell me who did we copy this from! ha!
5-8 x 42 is weird chambering? It is superior round to enemic 5.56mm and new standard for chinese military forces
>>29716590
well that is wrong. maybe one time you were strongest but now that is just lie you tell your people to not realize they would be destroy by true 21st century global power
>>29716576
>+3.25 yuan
>>29716576
Forgive me, I may get this wrong, but Chou Ni Ma didao.
>>29716626
>China
>21st century global superpower
Top laff, 21st century global superpowers don't limit the people's freedoms
>>29716626
pp2000 and an l85 drank too much one night and that was the result
>>29716626
The QBZ was developed decades after not only the craze for intermediate rifle cartridges became a thing but also after bullpups had already been explored by wealthier nations and the British had already had the L85 as their service rifle for close to 40 years now, which is damn near uncanny in resemblance.
>>29716652
nice try fat man fuck you
>>29716653
OH HA
WHAT FREEDOM YOU HAVE THAT CHINA DOES NOT? None of the freedoms you have are the freedoms that matter!
laughable
keep telling your people you are freedom when china owns all your money hahaha
you are bottom bitch
>>29716714
Not even like shitty british rifle the QBZ series has infinitely better reliability and proper engineering
>>29716626
If the USA stopped trading with you your economy would literally go full COLLAPSING IN ON YOURSELF mode
>>29716576
Even though you got destroyed by a couple rocket trucks in the Russo-chinese border conflict
here is picture of modern american soldier! JOKE!
>>29716751
>america is telling me my economy will collapse
Oh ironic is it
>>29716761
where is source for your information
>>29716733
>muh debt
It means nothing, and America also has a lot of other countries that owe us, including Ching Chong China
And the Chinese military sucks ass
>While recent years have witnessed a tremendous Chinese propaganda effort aimed at convincing the world that the PRC is a serious military player that is owed respect, outsiders often forget that China does not even have a professional military. The PLA, unlike the armed forces of the United States, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and other regional heavyweights, is by definition not a professional fighting force. Rather, it is a “party army,” the armed wing of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Indeed, all career officers in the PLA are members of the CCP and all units at the company level and above have political officers assigned to enforce party control. Likewise, all important decisions in the PLA are made by Communist Party committees that are dominated by political officers, not by operators.
I will say that their 5.8x42 round has excellent armour penetration.
>>29716803
To be fair, if I were a part of their government, I'd be TERRIFIED of the possibility of a military coup d'état.
>>29716803
Okay so semantics argument is meaningless
we have professional army but it is run properly so therefore it is not true army? okay
go look at numbers and come back
>debt does not matter
Keep saying yourself that when you collapse and india is even shot ahead of you you will not be saying ching chong china then
>>29716804
What level of armor?
>>29716778
http://www.ers.usda.gov/media/1784488/eib136.pdf
Page 4, you fuckers import ~$25 billion worth of food from the US
You'd starve to death as your economy dissapears
>>29716822
are they still only promoting party types who don't know how to do anything but parrot the party line?
>>29716835
>go look at numbers and come back
America still wins on the simple fact that we spend more on our military, have a shit ton of allies (and China has barely any) and that we are currently shilling out on new military technology (not just copying other people's shit like the Chinks) because of the conflict in the Middle East
>US: currently fighting the Middle East
>China: no major conflict since 1979
>>29716544
Guys stop replying to the troll thread. Chinks get BTFO every time
>>29716847
DBP87 heavy rounds can penetrate into 4mm steel in 1000m
accurate to 800m
>>29716822
Although, there are signs of severe distrust within the US government, like when Marines were forced to remove the bolts from their rifles for Obama's second inauguration parade.
>>29716847
The older ones went through 3mm steel plates at 1000 yards, supposedly. The newer rounds are supposed to improve it somewhat, though the wound channel would probably be pretty much an ice pick at that point.
>>29716856
That's true in North America as well, though...
>>29716866
This is /k/. "Troll threads" like this are our bread and butter, man. Who cares what someone's intention is when posting shit if it leads to an interesting conversation? Who's actually getting trolled in that case?
>>29716866
but its fun...
>>29716835
>go look at numbers and come back
That would be great if this discussion we're about playing D&D
So how long do you think that force projection is gonna work out for? Wanna try to skew things in China's favor by saying no NATO for this scenario? How long before mainland china is filled with US bases like every other country and the US just starta producing for itself instead of propping up more shithole economies?
Nukes fly everyone dies
>>29716884
the difference is that we have more experienced officers in general
>>29716544
Muhreen here
I was drunk as fuck flipping off and cussing in chink that some bar tender taight me at some manlet chink soldiers at some post wearing a blue fu manchu suit and glasses and pic related.
Bunch of pussies, we'd steam roll you riceniggers
>>29716884
That is pretty damn impressive, can't imagine what those wounds would like though - the medics having to patch some dude up with toothpick holes all over his back
>>29716901
MY
SCENARIO
STANDS
I just remembered those threads because of this one actually
is irrelevant because current projection show you collapse in coming years
especially when you have the new hitler as president impriosning your own people
China more effective with military spending. Americans burn billions for little to show.
Middle east? Complete failure! It shows incompetence of the american people.
vietnam good example of what happens when BIG SPENDER US FORCES try to go against chinese strength
>>29716932
>We lost Vietnam
Why can I get a big mac in Hanoi then?
>>29716884
Def not true in America, nice try.
Here's your .50$, CCP thanks you for your service
>>29716544
>and how fucked is China?
About as fucked as America.
>>29716963
you are fatty cancer spreading across world it is nothing to be proud of
mcdonald just as much chinese as american company idiot if not more then
>>29716907
they only got 300 nukes and the effects of nuke are overrated.
>>29716988
Shit we're still killing gooks thanks to agent orange and UXOs and they still buy our glorious Big Macs and Whoppers
>>29717004
>the effects of nuke are overrated
this must be american education at work
>>29716932
Tfw cchina might be going to war with Vietnam over oil. Predictions say Vietnam wipes the PLA in weeks and burns bejing by 6months
>>29716986
>nukes
Only China would be stupid enough to do this, they most likely would, but if they did it would cost them a lot more dearly than it would cost us
>>29717026
HAHAHAHA OKAY WHERE YOU GET THOS WNPR REDICTIONS HAHAHAHAHA
VIETNAM? Could not stand without american crutch underneath it and even then our armed forces would be done with you in matter of weeks
you cannot face it that you are irrelevance
>>29717041
Tfw literally Vietnam is one of like 5 southeast asian country's NOT supported by the US, here's your .50$ nice try
>>29717056
>Vietnam is not supported by the US
Haha okay what a ridiculous statement
>>29716544
US would fuck their shit up hard, and if the russian subhumans step in too they'll get the same amount of ass whooping
>>29716925
I mean, we've seen that kind of issue in the past with other intermediary rounds being fired out of barrels shorter and at much longer ranges than those specific loads were intended for. Though, a shot to the pelvis would definitely still fuck you up. Plenty of bone shards to be had, there.
>>29716972
Let's not kid ourselves. The guys who actually call the shots within the military are more politician than soldier. This at the expense of the guys actually getting shot at.
>>29717026
Not to mention tensions with Japan and South Korea. Especially when you have the North Koreans being giant shit disturbers. You and I both know that North Korea is going to be like Japan in WWII.
>Fuck your game-plan, Germany (China)! I'm doing my own shit!
Though, on the bright side, that'd probably end the same way (With someone getting fucking nuked).
>>29717015
Guess it's better to make peace with murrica then have to deal wit China.
>>29717082
Also, if anyone is starting a pool on which country does the nuking, I'll put 5$ down on the French just for kicks. The French are already pissed and they are genetically on fucking hair triggers.
>>29717017
They are overrated though. People think we could just glass the world and it would be a dead planet. Once you get an idea of the actual yields, stockpiles and capabilities COMBINED with the whole MAD idea, they aren't as obscenely destructive as most would believe and nobody wants to use them anyway so they're effectively useless
>>29717116
make a bingo card instead. That be more hilarious.
We already have a F35 and Abrams bingo, lets put a china stronk bingo card.
>>29717073
>Haha okay CCP pls don't kill my family, I'll post more.
>No I'm not practicing falon gong! It's Tai chi i tell you Mr. Bo xi loau don't Holocaust me and my family I beg of u!!!
Literally you RN senpai desu baka kys
>>29717160
What are the big ones we see a lot?
Force projection, muh population...
>>29717041
>Could not stand without american crutch underneath it
Thats the thinkg. The US likes to have it's fingers in everything. Why wouldn't the US jump at the chance to set itself up in another locale
>>29717160
>>29717197
Fat or "unconventional" American soldiers... Chinese aircraft carriers are always poked fun at in these threads...
>>29717197
X Missile can kill carriers
Carriers are obsolete
Ramps are better than catapults
100% ingeniously designed and built with no foreign technology
>>29717189
Hahaha nice myths your media must be telling that to you. people are only arrested if they break the law and hurt of societal order.
atleast my country isnt beating their own people because of racist color differences hahaha or where woman are regularly paid less than man for same work or the poor roaming your cities.
yes keep saying you are free that means a lot in your country doesn't it
>>29717197
"Muh senario stands"
"fiddy cents"
SARS wins, China dies
>>29717272
AIDS and diabetes and obesity wins, America dies
>>29717272
>>29717285
so Russia wins?
>>29716576
30% of your training is propaganda and singing. All your generals are polaticians. And your last major deployment was against unarmed civics you coward
>>29717285
>AIDS and diabetes and obesity wins, kills all the poor, we spend the welfare money to drop rods from god on China.
ftfy
>>29717347
this
>>29717347
>30% of
Totally false you only know lies you have been sung to by your leaders
>generals are politicians
And yours are not? Hah, your entire military has no integrity like I said bunch of crossdresser and homosexuals and lowering of standard because of massive endemic of obesity. Generals regularly ejected for scandalis behaviors.
Our last deployment? Yes keep telling me while you kill civilians in the middle east and africa, we rebuild.
>>29717382
Every military on Earth is gay as hell, man. There's just no way around it.
>>29717382
How can you rebuild when nothing was built to begin with?
>>29717408
Original, before anyone asks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLcHJN1soY4
>>29716544
>America and China go to war
Landwar in asia, etc. The only winner is Russia.
>>29717382
The moment you start shit with us a huge amount of tanked up Ruskies will take advantage of the situation and rape you like the steppe people they are. Shit will be so cash
>>29717449
>you hold 'em down and I'll hit them with the dildo bat.
>deal
>>29717449
Thats awesome!
>>29717382
>TFW less than .01 percent of the entire American armed forces is homosexual
>What is APFT standard
>TFW the chink is saying his government doesn't lie to him.
please kill yourself :^)
Is there any available professional analysis on what would happen if the Three Gorges Dam broke, casualty figures, area flooded, that sort of thing? I'm curious to know just how big an Achilles heel that is.
>>29716733
your escalators are more dangerous than your weapons
>>29717674
No, but the general assumption seems to be:
>Millions dead
>Area of a small country flooded
>Economy/infrastructure fucked more than a hooker on fleet week
How to destroy China
1) send subs
2) bomb the shit out the coast
3) accept unconditional surrender
Yfw we don't even have to bother sending in an entire naval fleet.
>no, I don't give a shit if pic is a nip and not a chink.
>>29716653
Give him credit. He said power, not superpower.
silkworms destroy navy. all satellites shot down. ww2 style war sets in. we get fucked in the anal cavity trying to invade. they attempt to invade, they get fucked in the anal cavity. mother russia conquers both.
>>29718213
>all satellites shot down
>Block 1 Tomahawk equivalent sub-sonic AShM
>>29716626
I can't really tell if you are joking or serious.
Having a billion poorly-trained Ching Chongs won't help you when they have to cross an ocean against the greatest Air Force and Navy in the history of civilization.
Without nukes China a shit and nobody would consider them a serious military force.
>>29717041
IIRC, Vietnam BTFO China last time they went to war like Finland vs Russia. Ever since then, China has not been involved in a war. I'm thinking it's the bad memories. On a side note, anyone have a link to the article about Chinese Military Exercises? Specifically the one where they had a missile silo go on red alert and lock donw? Specifically, the one where they had to bring in 'dancing girls' to try and keep deteriorating morale up after about a week.
>>29719226
Also, any about those recent military exercises China's been running. I remember they were actually pretty cool since the antagonist was basically a Roided Out Super Cold War America, and they used it as part of their anti-corruption deal to root out incompetents. Coolest part was they used modernized Type 59's with ERA, and things were so tough, only their latest tanks could hold the line. Hilariously, I got a 'Murrica boner reading about how pumped up the Op For was.
IT'S OUR GOAL TO WIPE OUT CHINA
>>29716733
>what freedom
i know you are trolling but i cant help it.
>American 75th Delta Seal DEVGRU Rangers Raiders fly in to Shangjing and kills the Chairman
>USAF Air Force flys a commercial airliner into the 632 meter skyscraper as revenge for 9/11
>Russia suddenly entering the war and come rushing in through Manchuria,stealing all the industrial and machinery then retreating back
>>29719313
kek
>>29717674
Ask the Pentagon. I'd blow it the fuck up ASAP in a shooting war with China. It's even a military target technically.
>>29716963
You can also get Pho at any non-flyover city. And sushi too. And sauerkraut.
>>29716544
>What happens
Lots of Americans and Chinese die. World rejoices.
>how fucked is China
Just as much as they are fucked through all of their history. Which is pretty badly, but they are used to it.
>fucked is USA
Pretty badly. It retains it's territories and shit but Novus Ordo Seclorum is BTFO. Enter planet dominated by Yurocucks and Slavs.
>>29716544
>how fucked is China
Its just fucked but the US is also fucked.
The rest of the world celebrates the war that got rid of the most pesky nation on earth.
Bb b b but if America destroys China, who's going to make everything?
>>29717116
Français here, can confirm
We're all psychopaths, and every regular I know would love to go to war again
>>29716576
America under president CRUZ would fly one F35 over their and china would be toast. Boom just like that. China chose poorly. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. XD
You don't fuck with DEVIL DOGS, VETERANS, and TEXAS
>>29716866
Do you have any idea how out dated that pimage is? I think that is from late in the bush era.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
For 2015
USA $ 597.5 Bn
China $ 145.8 Bn
Saudi Arabia $ 81.8 Bn
UK $ 56.2 Bn
Russia $ 51.6 Bn
The fact that Russia has moved from 3rd to 5th place on military spending shows just how old that image is.
>>29722559
Congress using inflated military contracts to launder tax money factors into that huge figure
