best scope that preserves the extreme versatility&durability of the PTR91 GI-R?
>under $3k
also general battle riffles thread
>>29604506
What is to a FN FAL as a PTR is too a G3?
>>29604515
the DS Arms SA58 if im correct
>>29604515
Nothing because no one but Rhodieboo sperglords care about FALs.
>>29604530
Ban this user.
>>29604506
trijicon VCOG?
>>29604530
lol ok boyo
right arm of the free world is only for rhodesian-fanboys
nice
>>29604548
The rest of the world moved on about 10 years ago.
>>29604557
That makes sense
FAL is superior to the G3 in every possible way.
>>29604562
Held both, FAL felt like ass to hold in comparison.
average FAL owner
>>29604586
But the FAL was used by atleast 50 different nations.
I think you all dislike the FAL because you cannot afford one and thus need to justify your shitty PTR to yourselves.
>>29604547
>>29604506
I own the Trijicon VCOG and the Vortex Razor 1-6
the VCOG washes out in sunlight, quick release mount doesn't return to perfect zero, and edge to edge the glass is not as good as the Vortex, it also costs way more
The razor feels way less durable, is an atrocious color that gives off glare, you'll need a zoom lever, also costs half as much.
The razor is far easier to put up to your eye and start shooting, almost as good as an eotech, the glass clarity is as good as the Trijicon if not better.
You said you wanted to keep your durability and versatility, but you're gonna have to choose. If you want durability, shell out for the VCOG. If you want versatility, the Razor is an incredible scope for CQ and at distance. I've heard rumors the gen III Razor will be 1-8 instead of 1-6 so you may want to wait on that, as a properly equiped PTR91 could make good use of that additional magnification.
YMMV
>>29604568
It was the opposite for me, but that's the wonderful thing about having a choice: get what fits you best.
FAL owners = trannies
>>29604629
Yup, definitely not a rifle sized for me.
>>29604638
Are you a 13yro girl
>>29604644
31 year old boy. I'll still buy one eventually even if I don't care for how it feels vs others, but it's lower on my list.
>>29604586
> using the "people who own a gun I don't like are physically unattractive" meme
> in 2016
>>29604527
You are correct.
With that said, PTR91 > DSA58.
>>29604634
What exactly makes FAL owners trannies??
>>29604530
Well, you're not wrong.
>>29604629
Hey, what optic is that?
>>29604890
Skinky.
>>29605032
It's the same you've got, bo. I usually keep it on my Vepr 12 though.
>>29604759
The fact that their biggest shill is an obnoxious crossdressing faggot
>>29604530
>and people say FALfags are spergs
>>29604638
the FAL has a longer length of pull than a G3
What are you talking about
>>29604527
Your not wrong. But 7.62 gives such a boner to most people, especially it is the quintessential battle rifle of the cold war, and what time it was to be alive. When men were men women were women and some were trained to shoot tighter grouping s than most /k/ommandos. Then finally the dream to visit distant forgein lands meet new people. Then possibly kill the fuck out of them since they were communist guerrilas/ sympathizers. Ahh what time it was to be alive. >inb4 being nostagic about an era I didn't live in.
>>29604506
Any optic suggestions for around $300? I'm thinking of just buying an Aimpoint pro at this poin and not worrying about magnification.
>>29605125
You could say that about almost any gun on /k/. That or they're furries.
>>29605144
I'm just saying the gun doesn't fit me as well.
I don't remember exactly what the deal was now, been a few weeks since holding them side by side.
IIRC, the FAL just felt extra clunky, like a less extreme version of how a galil feels like too much gun for the round it's firing.
>>29605168
the comic you're thinking of
>>29604659
Wanna share were you found that beautiful frog gun?
>>29605180
Primary arms magnified or red dot
both are under $300 and good options
>buying overpriced Aimpoint trash
>>29605183
...that may have influenced my post.
>>29605181
>the FAL just felt extra clunky
Probably because it's much thicker
If you had the wide handguards on a G3 or a cheek riser, it'd feel the same way
You're nitpicking about "clunkiness" on a 60 year old rifle
Go pick up a Garand and tell me it's sleek
>>29605186
At a gunshow in wilmar MN last year about a week ago.
$485 cash out the door, couldn't have asked for a better price for a 308 converted surrender stick. I heard some of these 308 conversions had major problems, but mine's not bad. I had the very occasional failure to grab a round from the mag when it was brand new, but it's been a long time now since I've had anything out of the ordinary happen.
>>29605202
I know I'm nitpicking, but I'll nitpick all I want if I'm dropping that kind of money on something. I'll still get one, just won't be as high on my purchase order.
I don't care for garands that much either, but not for the same reasons. I just don't care for the looks so I just leave them sit on the shelf since I have zero intention of buying one right now. I'd much sooner grab an m14 to avoid the weird 8rd clips. Sorry if some people like them so much, I don't care for them.
>>29605125
I got $500 for whom ever may n.d. at the queer
Best BR for under three grand, SCAR
Fal vs ptr is a wash. Both are outdated
>>29605273
Scar is just an updated, plastic FAL
Hell, they use the same damn magazines
So theoretically speaking
How would one go about turning a PTR into a fake PSG-1?
>>29605287
A five letter word
Money
>>29605247
Damn, MN?! Wish I could find one in MD
>>29604506
For a economical solution-Leupold Pig Plex 1x4, about $230 or $450 for illuminated recticle.
>>29605287
How close are you wanting to be? Buying exterior parts alone will cost you more than a real PSG1 and you gotta do the internals as well at that point.
I don't think there's any replica parts so you have to just make a "homage", here's a list on top off my head to make a cringe worthy look-a-like
>short PSG1 5 round mag, 100+ dollars
>scope, I don't know, expect the real one be collector's item, slap a scope of your liking, maybe find the same reticle as a real one
>pistol grip, aftermarket 50-100 dollars, real one 300 dollars
>stock, Magpul PRS2, maybe 300 dollars, real PSG1 1000 dollars
>black wide handguard good enough, saw off front sight post kek
Triggers packs, etc internals go for 1000s for little pieces
But on the other hand every PSG1 part never loses it's value and may even appreciate.
As a funfact PSG-1 was meant for elite police sniper only and to be shot as a true precision rifle, not a military rifle to be carried in mud. The most overengineered semi-auto in the world.
>>29605287
You start with a bare PTR receiver and build it. Converting an existing rifle is pointless, since you'll replace almost everything on it.
>>29605350
Well, there was only one there to buy anyway. I fell in love with it the second I held it because it just felt so good in my hands and I love how the rifle looks, especially the muzzle end.
It was one of maybe 3 guns to even catch my attention at all during the whole show. That show is great if your interests are strictly handguns and hunting rifles/shotguns, otherwise just barely worth the price of admission for people like me.
>>29605391
A visual homage is pretty much exactly what I was going for. Thanks for the info anon.
>>29605287
it may look like one, but you have to build from the ground up to make an actual PSG1
>>29605082
That looks awesome
>>29604506
I'm at an impasse. Should I just buy a FAL and be done with it or try and cobble one together out of parts. Any opinions?
>>29605785
Unless you want a specific model/configuration, just buy one.
>>29605785
the word cobble worries me
i would probably just buy one
God the amount of Ptr/g3 vs. FAL shit posting in battle rifle threads is retarded
>>29605418
Your so lucky anon!
>>29606088
Hang around a bit longer, it gets worse as time goes on.
>>29606088
>>29606467
the only thing worse on this board was the ak47/vz58/vz2008 wars, which have mostly subsided
>>29606088
You must be new to 4chan.
>>29606088
Just ignore bait.
>>29604568
Literally muh feels
>>29604753
He said not knowing much about either rifle. Posting zero information from reliable sources to support his claim.
If I get a full-size PTR-91, will I be able to put an adjustable stock on it as soon as. I get it or would it require a tax stamp?
>>29607194
No tax stamp
>>29605247
>Willmar
Absolutely disgusting.
Everyone with a ptr has little bulge at the beginning of their ejection port, correct? This is like the quasi shell deflector?
>>29606467
When you prop your lizard on things, does he struggle and just kind of sit there, or does he find a way out?
>>29607297
The latter, usually. Skinky is pretty clever. He'll sit still for a bit, and if he decides he doesn't like his current perch, he'll crawl off somewhere else. He's quite flexible, kinda like a snake, but with useless arms. Or a scaly sausage.
>>29607267
You mean at the back of it? Yes.
>>29607440
>Or a scaly sausage.
L-lewd
>>29607440
What are your thoughts on the FAL G1?
>>29607148
Because there is nothing he can post
That said, SCAR > FAL
>>29604506
Under $3k, Nightforce 2.5-10xwhatever you want. If you want something more robust at a higher price tag ATACR 4-16. If you want to max out that budget, CQBSS, $3k get you mildot and mtm reticle, H27D will cost you more.
Do all DSA Standard FAL's come with carry handles (or at least carry handle cuts)?
I have the option of getting one for $1200, but I NEED the carry handle, and dont want to drop $400 on new second receiver just because it doesn't have one.
>>29608110
Yes. The SA58 models can be had either way.
Why do you need the handle out of curiosity?
>>29608148
AM I BEING DETAINED
>>29608173
sure
>>29604506
SWFA SS HD 1-6x FFP.
The durability of a VCOG, the glass of a Razor, in black and not that shitty tan.
>>29608212
>1-6
might be good on a .223
>>29608224
Explain...
>>29608189
u-uh oh. well then...
How am I going to carry a rifle if it doesn't have a carry handle?
>>29608270
It has two handles already. Do you have three hands?
>>29608247
1-6 leaves a lot to be desired on a .308
Depending on what your shooting and whats around it, making out the target can be hard to do without a little extra magnification. On a .223 where if you get some mk262 and run it out of a 20" bbl, you can get fragmentation to 300 yards, a 1-6 is about sublime.
A .308 can reach out much further and do more than punch paper or ring steel
10x is considered to be somewhat bottom end of the useful spectrum on a .308. As you may want to keep the low end power low, a 2.5-10 is pretty damn optimal. This also keeps the weight down.
If you got a real shooter, and dont mind a little heavier scope a 3-15 is pretty good too.
>>29604527
Are DSA FAL's in inch or metric?
>>29608380
Yes
Generally metric, they do make limited runs of inch receivers.
>>29604506
>extreme versatility&durability of the PTR91 GI-R
Is the PTR91 GI-R really so durable?
I've been looking to buy myself a nice semi auto lately and my biggest thing is durability and reliability. I want a gun that (with proper care maintenance) will last me a hundred years or so. I want a gun that I can drag through the swamp, drop in the mud, ect. and still fire after a basic cleaning or without cleaning it at all (obviously I'm over exaggerating, but you get the idea). Will this rifle do this for me? If not what will?
>>29610066
A bolt action rifle, stainless/aluminum/polymer everything, including the springs
Intentional mistreatment needs some pretty high end shit, or some basic shit.
zzzzzzz
>>29610141
what optic is that?
>>29605287
you gotta be dumb as a doorknob to actually do that one ptrtard here did though
>>29605785
buy
>>29606088
i hate poor posting too
>>29608110
sa58
>>29610141
That's a big scope.
>>29610141
looks like brake clean wear
>>29610164
uuuu
>>29610151
Eltro-Zeiss Fero-51
>>29610156
why u so condescending senpai?
>lol im better than you because you own a g3
im not even a ptr poster desu
>>29610094
Sounds fine by me. Any suggestions? I have a 30-40 krag carbine that fits most of my previous requirements but its already served its hundred years and is mostly a collectorspiece now.
>>29610197
Pay him no heed.
>>29610267
http://www.gunsandammo.com/news/canadian-rangers-rearm-with-sako-tikka-t3-ctr/
>>29610197
Hes condescending because PTR fags think their budget rifle is more than just a budget choice.
>>29610324
Try one out friendo.
>>29604506
>no one has yet mentioned the fucking Hensoldt
Goddamn /brg/ you are terrible.
>>29604562
Even Rhodesian military have moved on to the SCAR, why haven't you? Too poor?
>>29610340
Why would we over mentioning the Vortex Viper series? It's good glass, but not worth what it's price is nowadays.
>>29610331
I have.
Thats why I went another route.
>>29610360
OP did not mention cost and the Hensoldts are calibrated for 7.62x51 neato.
Granted, lol, I have it on a C93.
>>29610340
Old milsurp henny is meh
New henny is over $3k
>>29610388
Fair enough, pretty much while I'll never ever be buying into german shit again, they're more jewish than the jews ever were
>>29610387
>Calibrated for 7.62x51
You should be able to adjust zero for anything you put it on. The reticle is very basic.
>>29610370
Ok.
>>29604759
a man in a skirt was very mean to him once, teasing him unmercifully and he's never been the same since
>>29610420
You -can-, it just won't be what it's meant for.
Case and point, I have it mounted on to a 5.56 rifle.
>>29610324
you goys have made that claim but i have yet to see any one on here act like their ptr/cetme is hot shit. I constantly see the transman act as though he is better for owning a different rifle though. theres really no point in arguing about it. all thats gonna happen is your gonna call me a poortr fag and shit up this thread even more when you are the only one shitposting itt. show me one screenshot of a ptr fag shitposting. put your trip back on and stop with your inferiority complex shit.
>>29610454
Your really will not have to change anything with it besides re-zeroing, the holdovers are basic. I would have bought one back when they were $150-200.
>>29610387
get that intermediate shit out of here
>>29605285
this
>>29605273
say that to my face fagget
>>29610429
instead of buying a better rifle they just try polishing turds
>>29610464
i dont post without a trip
right here >>29604530
ur dumb kiddo
>>29604586
My country uses FAL you fucking neckbeard.
>>29610464
He's ill, don't bother replying to him.
>>29610312
Thanks m8. Looking for similar requirements for a revolver. Advise?
>>29610506
at least im not poor
>>29610497
Make me, you weeb shit.
>>29610494
Precisely why I still have it on.
>>29610520
>Precisely why I still have it on.
Theeennnnnnn who cares? Not sure what you're getting at.
>>29610513
manhurin are supposed to be pretty good. There are better revolvers out there though.
>>29607440
>mfw I have almost the same desk, but a slightly different model
>>29610532
There's no reason why it wasn't mentioned. It's still a valid optic. If only it were as cheap as it used to be.
>>29608330
and if he doesn't have a spot to shoot past 600 yards, a 1-6 is fine
>>29610579
>>29610141
>this faggot put a Tabuk flash hider on a PTR
you're gayer than Sakuya
>>29604506
About to buy one this weekend actually.
>>29610156
its not even good b8 anymore
>>29610515
>implications
>>29610601
>Tabuk
Pretty sure he's using a G28 flash hider that HKParts sold for a while.
>>29610601
>gayer than a tripfag who's even more cancer outside of their containment general
>>29610584
Hope your shooting high contrast targets, and only plan on punching paper.
>>29610639
you have to have money to go out and shoot ptrs are refund check guns for poorfags
>>29607930
I can offer no valid input having never owned one myself. My FAL is an IMBEL parts kit on a new IMBEL receiver, I've never touched a German FAL in my life.
>>29610572
It's pretty okay, right? Bit on the flimsy side, but a decent desk all-in-all.
>>29610670
I pay taxes quarterly.
Maybe thats why I dont like PTRs?
>>29610639
I shoot 300+ with my POSP at 4x on a spraypainted white steel silhouette and it's more than big enough in the scope
600 with a 6x wouldn't be hard at all
You don't have to fill the scope with your target to hit it
>>29610636
I thought this was the containment thread?
>>29610627
I stand corrected
But I have to say it's pretty gay that they're the exact same design
>>29610670
>>29610698
So you are shooting a high contrast target out in the open all the time.
>>29610728
>speckled white against a giant rock pile is high contrast
I...
>>29608270
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFbXXE6AA64
>>29610694
people who let the government hold a splurge fund for a years ransom are retired so probably why
>>29610711
>not a cute hairless duder
gay
>>29610726
my image was like 3 memes deep obviously you arent up on things
L1A1 vs AR-10
Let's say cost wise, the L1A1 is about half the price of the AR-10, which one would you go for?
>>29610798
>likes their men hairless
I USED TO THINK YOU WERE ONE OF THE ALMOST OK TRIPFAGS
FUCK YOU
>>29610766
Yeah, yeah it is high contrast.
Its not White on Black high contrast your correct.
>>29610811
A good L1A1 would be like $1300, or a $2600 AR-10? Assuming your in burgerland, the AR-10 is going to be a MUCH better shooter. If your not in a free country, L1A1. The AR-10 is likely to be inflated in price.
>>29610798
>scrolling past page 1 on google
>>29610811
What do you want to use it for?
>>29610798
PTR fags cant afford to pay attention.
You were too subtle.
>>29610859
>a $2600 AR-10
Why would a good AR10 be this much? I thought the ones this expensive were just people paying for a brand with extra pointless doodads and paintjobs (like ruger's R25, which still isn't over 2grand I believe).
>>29610859
Australia, so not exactly "free" as our friends across the ditch.
>>29610873
Pig/hog slaying. Want an accurate, but dirt and mud friendly .308 semi-auto. Would like to suppress it too, but at the moment that's a pipe dream.
>>29610911
Highest quality everything
Warranty if anything goes wrong
Resale value if your into that sort of thing
Accuracy guarantee
>>29610911
It's $3,500 a Ruger SR-25 and $1,350 for a mil-surp L1A1 over here.
>>29610919
Yeah. AR-10s are at a high premium there..
L1A1 is still likely good. And if there are issues with your rifle, spare parts are a thing. Just check the barrel at least first. Thats a harder part to source/replace.
>>29610919
If the price difference is really double and theres no other way to build one yourself then go with the FAL. Its accurate enough within 150 yards for any standard hunting. I thought semi's were banned in Aus?
>>29610811
l1a1 since upside downer farmers always talk about their buried fals
>>29610814
arms and legs to the knees is fine but smooth is best imho
>>29610905
i keep forgetting
>>29610954
you can own a lot of scary guns in shitty countries if you arent poor gun control is classist
>>29610929
>Ruger SR-25
I'll assume you meant the Ruger-762, which is still only about 2300 here.
http://www.ruger.com/products/sr762/models.html
I said the Remington R25 though, which is only 1600ish.
http://www.remington.com/rifles/modern-sporting/model-r-25-gii/model-r-25-gii
Yes I am aware they both (claim to be/)are SR-25s.
>>29610996
meant for
>>29610938
>>29610954
>I thought semi's were banned in Aus?
No, but you literally need to start a business to get one. They're Category C or D restricted weapons.
Professional pest-control/hunters usually use SA centre-fire weapons for quick and humane kills.
>>29610989
>fal operators filename
>Only actual operating is done by people with cetmes
lol
>>29611018
>>29610996
Yeah I meant the SR-762. Don't know why I keep saying SR-25 though.
>All this hate
You guys do know that you can buy multiple battle rifles right?
>>29610989
Gotta request the webm that is really similar to this, but it starts with a soldier on the back of a truck/technical shooting an LMG at natives down a road who are running into the foliage taking cover on the sides of the road.
>>29611040
Yes but I also see I fucked my original post>>29610911 up by saying "Ruger's R-25." So, my bad too.
>>29611055
shh the poorfags dont know that
>>29611055
"in the world of compromises..."
just get both
>>29611117
here you go fampai
>>29611055
I am considering buying a FAL or derivative now so that I can keep magazine commonality if I also buy a SCAR. Would a magazine that works in a SCAR work in a FAL?
You have no idea how important magazine commonality is to me.
>>29611055
Now I don't mend shelling out big bucks for a nice gun, but I'm not super into doing very often (not a rich fag here). I want to make sure my purchase is a good one well before I place an order.
>>29610840
>white and grey on white and grey is high contrast
You may be retarded
I'd go take an IQ test sometime if I were you
>>29610811
AR10s are good, but they're just a scaled up AR
There's nothing interesting about them besides the caliber
>>29611162
thanks, thats the one i've been looking for.
These are from the Angolan War of Independence I think?
>>29604599
i can buy an fal for about the same as a ptr
>>29611165
fal work in scar but you physically have to hold them without modification but to modify its basically the same as converting ar15 magazines to ar18 magazines
scar mags dont work in a fal
>>29611180
dont buy a ptr then
>>29611195
not sure but the footage is from africa addio
>>29611251
What's wrong with a ptr?
>>29604890
JESUS WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO TO THAT POOR RIFLE
>>29604506
Under 3K it's probably the vortex razor.
Technically the S&B short dots are under 3k, and those are fantastic scopes.
>>29611251
Why won't the SCAR mag/modified FAL mags work in the FAL?
>>29611187
Compared to say, a man in camo hiding behind concealment, yeah its high contrast
Compared to say, a deer standing in high grass, yeah its high contrast.
Compared to a neon green target with a black circle on it with an orange dot in the middle, no, its not high contrast.
>>29611282
FAL fags pay more so they decry the PTR as bad
simple as that
heres a really nice Rhodesian Brushstroke FAL though
>>29611297
>vortex razor
too heavy
>>29611329
damn thats a rhodesian brushstroke AR, here is the FAL
>>29611329
The poverty is real
>>29611285
Automotive paint, applied with a boot sock for maximum disgustingness.
I see its having the desired effect.
>>29611351
i like both but its really no secret that FAL fags act like they're part of an exclusive club because they pay $500 more for their rifles and 6x as much for their mags, thats why they hate the DSA Voyager so much.
>>29611282
Nothing he just has to justify his purchases by calling other rifles inferior with nothing to back it up. Probably has something to do with the bullying he experienced at an early age.
>>29611282
what isnt
>>29611285
make it rhodie kawaii
>>29611319
feed lips, remember the scar is an upgraded fal in spirit so its backward compatible
>>29611339
>not terribly done with bootleg paint off fal files and done with a brush i found in a shed
>>29611382
i dont hate the the voyager nothing wrong with cast
>>29611416
no thats why i wear a dress now my taste in rifles is top choice
I want to buy a SR-25, talk me out of it. I already have A SCAR
>>29611382
You clearly misidentified what kind of fag I am.
And FAL mags (non DSA ones) at least are reliable. G3 mags are hit or miss if you get a lemon. On your dime to determine which are which.
Clearly, your a budget shooter. Just own it. Stop complaining about what other people have to say. You take things WAY to personally.
>>29611510
>says taste is top choice
>tried to shit on some guy's galil yesterday
>>29611546
Wait and get a mk20 (itll be out this year, right guys)
Or get the KAC, and like it.
>>29611510
I have a nice job that pays well, but I preferred the PTR over the FAL.
It can be personal preference over poverty.
>>29611564
dude are you seriously trying to defend a century monkey build?
>>29610505
Must be some shitty African or South American country.
>>29611590
>I prefer the PTR over FAL
Enjoy your workmanship and poorfag clone
>>29611624
I think you missed a word.
And I will. It has nothing to do with rich or poor. Just preference.
>>29611040
Cause you know what's the best in the back of your mind but you can't afford it
KAC 4 lyfe
>>29611187
>ar-10 is scaled up ar-15
>not the other way around
>>29611637
>Missed a word
Why not just get a G3 then? If you have money, don't buy knock offs it's a simple concept.
>>29611651
>as to be expected from a PTR fag
>>29611579
>MK20 out ever
Kek
Don't really want one anyhow, would prefer to stick with a 16 inch barrel. Better for 90% of situations
>>29611659
It was more than I wanted to spend. Its just that simple.
>>29611682
If youve already got a SCAR, you just want another 16" bbl semi auto because you want one. Yeah, get it, live your dreams my man
>>29611687
>It was more than I was able to spend.
FTFY.
>>29611687
>I have a nice job that pays well, but I preferred the PTR over the FAL.
>>29611687
>It was more than I wanted to spend. Its just that simple.
Don't let your wife catch you buying too much ammo at one time
>>29610712
You seriously think the Tabuk used that design of flash hider first? It's a fucking FN product.
>>29611715
No. I had the money.
>>29611730
I wont.
>>29611730
one box of perfecta a week from walmart.
>>29607440
>all songs only 5 stars
Do you only have 1 arm or something?
Why must the NF 2.5-10x be SFP? If they'd make a FFP one is be all over it in a heartbeat for a battle rifle optic. Guess I'll have to check out the USO 1.8-10x instead
Do I put a tri-rail on my PTR or keep the wide handguard?
I really want a flashlight on my rifle but I can't find any way to do so with the wide handguard that doesn't involve chopping up a light bipod and creating a monstrosity.
>>29611861
I would go after a handguard that accepted railed segments.
http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/G3-91-PTR-Handguard-M-LOK-112p17265.htm
>>29611809
It's my comfort zone, dammit. I have higher difficulty songs, but these are the ones I used to play when I still used mouse. Brings me back.
>>29611861
I have an aluminum tri-rail and it's pretty lightweight. Pretty useful to have, but isn't too uncomfortable versus the wooden slim.
>>29611812
SFP is fine.
Your not likely to be ranging with the reticle at less than maximum magnification anyway.
You can get an SHV F1 3-10 if you want FFP.
USO makes good scopes. They put out more than their share of lemons, but they do stand behind them.
>>29611510
>feed lips, remember the scar is an upgraded fal in spirit so its backward compatible
If it is backwards compatible, that would mean the SCAR mags work in a FAL and NOT vice-versa.
So what do you mean?
>>29611812
Because a FFP 2.5-10x doesn't make a whole lot of sense in this context. SFP is ideal for any optic with a top end that is <10.
>>29611940
He means that an FAL mag can be converted to run in the SCAR. It may be possible to punch out lip on the front of the SCAR mag to lock in the FAL, im not sure if the different feed lip geometry would be an issue, as the FAL to SCAR conversion you need to remove material from the lips.
>>29611957
Dont let him know that SFP scopes tend to have a clearer reticle, and clearer image.
>>29611963
So there is no way to have magazine that can simultaneously work in the FAL and the SCAR?
>>29612039
Outside of a custom magwell, no.
>>29612039
just cut the catch hole in the fal mag and a little file work and it works in both
>>29612084
Fuck. That was like my number one consideration. I guess I'll just grab some AR10s or a few PTRs. I like variety though, but magazine commonality is more important.
>>29612103
Wait, you know this?
>>29612150
ive made one fal mag work in both my scar and fal but it doesnt work for scar mags
>>29612229
I thought the front lip thing would cause issues.
The more you know
Thanks sakuya!
>>29612229
Well why don't you be useful for once and make an infograph on how to do it, you can even plaster your name all over it.
>>29612229
That makes me want to get a 50.63
>>29612229
I suppose metric vs standard comes into play here? I am not well versed in these two guns though.
>>29611890
The problem with that is I really like handguards that completely enclose the trunnion like the HK wide handguard.
Like this, hnnngh
Thoughts on this? I think I'm gonna get the 7.62 version when it comes out
>>29612308
Perhaps put rail sections on the back end so they hang over the trunnion portion of the receiver, then put short rail covers over them.
>>29612313
>V A P O R W A R E
>>29612313
we'll be using caseless ammunition by the time that comes out lad
I really want to get in on 3 dollar G3 mags while I can, what would be the best rufle to go with them? Should I just stop being autisitc and get a gun for reasons beyond cheap mags?.
>>29612251
you run your mag up and down the well like 50 times so it takes enough plastic out it doesnt become an issue
>>29612296
metric is all i got
>>29612394
Sorry I don't come here often , does that mean this is a meme gun?
>>29612399
It said sometime early 2016, still nothing from DT though so I believe you
>>29612431
It was supposed to come out late 2015 and now its on the verge of mid 2016
and vaporware means its never actually gonna come out
>>29612313
For some reason I thought this was Kel-Tek's design and THEY were doing a new battle riffle bullpup to replace the shit one they got.
>>29612465
The RFB is a solid gun
>>29612417
PTR91 is a fine rifle and thats what the G3 mags go with
>>29612492
Whatever, fancy.
>>29612492
It really isnt
>>29612626
I haven't seen the few people here that own one complain about them.
>>29612677
Because shooting a hundred rounds a year at a bench gives you very little insight to how well it is constructed in comparison to a SCAR, FAL, or HK.
>>29612677
Many people refuse to complain about things they spent too much on.
I cite half 1/4 the playerbase who preordered RO2. Never seen so many delusional faggots in my life.
All I'm saying is post-purchase rationalization is very real.
>>29612758
Have you used it?
>>29612784
Yes?
>>29612792
Well good. I'll chalk you down for people that think a gun sucks and has actually used it.
>>29612822
Theyre neat little rifles but horribly over priced and not nearly as good as other contemporary battle rifles.
>>29612852
Mind listing some specific grievances you had with it?
>>29612852
Is it the tube brass dump thing that causes the issues? Looks like jam central when I checked the specs.
>>29612870
Finicky with ammo, felt too plastic; like I could break it by falling on it, shit trigger. The gun was certainly more accurate than I am, but I have read at best its a 2-3 MOA rifle which at $1700, is pretty bad. I really want to like the design, and its fun but its completely beat out.
>>29612766
but red orchestra 2 actually got good after beta
>>29613055
You're writing that like it was good as soon as beta ended.
That shit heap was bad for a very long time, after most of the people who bought it gave it up, including most people who had played RO1. I have zero friends who still play it that played RO1, that's my whole clan and another clan I just play with alot. Damn near 100 people, and none of them have even turned on that piece of shit for years now.
>>29610066
You expect too much. You ever see those pictures of soldiers crossing a river, holding their rifles up over their heads.
Let go of your fantasy faggot.
>>29610273
He's actually more knowledgeable about battle rifles than you though.
>>29610513
Gunbroker you can find 3 C.A.I. imported manhurin mr73s for 600$~ thank me later.
>>29610464
A ptr fag shitposting is when they say their rifle is capable of everything and more that a fal scar and m14 are which is every post.
> my 800$ptr is as good/better BR than >your "insert rifle".
>>29611607
Implying the Cetme, G3 precursor design didn't come out of one of those shitty South American countries. Fucking dumbass.
>>29613173
All the battle rifles are just as capable as eachother. Honestly. At least the big 3 + SCAR.
>>29611637
>>29611659
This. Do it faggot, put your money where your mouth is with your budget rack battle rifle. There's a deal on cdnn for the old button mag release models if you need to save more money.
