So /k/, what's the latest on the NFA review for Australia?(especially for QLD) Been on holiday for a few weeks and out of the loop.
>>29544559
Nothing?
yea, na, cunt's fucked ay
Victoria here.
So far the government have said they're not going to change anything, but I don't trust them.
Seems we have won the battle, but the war continues.
You want to keep your guns in this country? Vote below the line, LDP, SFP, ALA. Vote freedom.
>>29544624
>>29544627
Really? That is massively disappointing.
Federal Justice Minister Michael Keenan says the Federal Govt won't change anything.
Except that individual state Weapons Acts don't have anything to do with the Federal Govt so prepare for the worst still.
>>29544627
>So far the government have said they're not going to change anything, but I don't trust them.
They've got a budget and an election to worry about so I guess fucking us over is a lower priority for now.
Anything bad they want to do to us will go down better with the fearful masses if they stay mum for longer and let the media wind everyone up some more
>>29544627
SFP are fudds
>>29544754
Yep, see Robert Borsak saying no one needs a semi-auto?
That's why you vote LDP or ALA.
>>29544759
ALA are like everything I want in a party. (One nation without Hanson, even though I like her she's had her image trashed by the media for decades.)
Where did they even come from. I might join and donate to them.
>>29544781
Their position on firearms seems to be pretty vague though.
>>29544759
>no one needs a semi-auto?
he's right, everybody needs at least three
>>29544799
One Nation or ALA?
>>29544864
ALA
>>29544866
Might have to message him on Facebook and get him to clarify.
>>29544559
So from what I've gathered we are stuck with the same laws for another 20 years.
Fuck.
>>29544627
ALA were contacted about gun laws and said they do not plan on changing the current laws.
Today in Australian gun news:
Richmond AFL FC sign onto a petition to ban the Adler, and mass email it to their members.
21 days until a brand-new Aus-made firearm is released.
Its in .22, and uses 10/22 parts, and KIDD barrels.
Promising a patent pending design, follow FOU on facebook, (shilling shamelessly), as we are buddied up with them for the release.
Unknown to any anti's, the Pardus is on the way, as well the Uzkon Arms 12g Lever actin.
The gun store in Melbourne is awaiting the lever-release version of this French firearm. Once it gets classified by customs, ill let y'all know. 99% sure it'll end up being a Cat D, but if not, its a lever release 30-06
Current waiting on an email back from a Russian firearm manufacture to get a quote on a batch of these bad boys. 5 rounds of revolving fun.
Warwick Firearms have trimmed all the fat from their company that was causing production issues. Scott Warwick has confirmed they are back to production. If you want to skip the list, you can buy direct from Cleaver Firearms, as 50 x .223 and 50 x 300blk models were paid for up front by Cleavers.
>>29545195
Any of these revolver carbines got a really light double action so it can be fired like a semi auto?
>>29545227
I've fired the rossi. Heavy as fuck.
The Russian revolving shotgun pictured, the MTS-255 has a 60N trigger pull lmao, but on a review I read, it kept up with a Remington 1400, and was said to kick less than the Auto-5
The Alfa ProJ, a .357 revolving carbine is pretty well made....with the exception that it has no blast shields. Ozzie Review's did a video on it.
>>29545202
Still $2.5-3k?
>>29545244
60N = 13lb trigger pull in DA
Its a 4lb pull on SA.
>>29545251
2950 from cleavers. I'd wait out untill the end of the year though. Lets just say there are other companies in Australia making a move...
>>29545258
TROYTROYTROYTROY
were you at the gunshow today?
>>29545287
Not a Troy. I'll have to send the guy/company importing them an email and see where they're at.
No, this one will be made in country....
I'm going tomorrow. I had work till about 7 am, so sleep was needed.
>>29545298
ooh neat, keen to see what you're referring to then
buy the half of a Steyr that's for sale there
>>29545258
what is that monolithic upper and where do I buy one
>>29545317
disregard that I'm a faggot who cant read
>>29545195
>revolver shotgun
fuck that looks mint
i'd buy one even if i could have pump & semi-autos
>>29545418
Read a review: http://mts255review.blogspot.com.au/2014/05/mts-255-revolving-shotgun-review.html
>>29545470
>But showing off, he started loading Frag 12s into the Mts-255. Yes, you read it, frag 12s! The exploding bullets we see in the video games. My friend loaded up an ordinary Frag 12 High Ex Antipersonnel, and fired at a mannequin that wears Type III body armor 35m away. I know a lot of things have been said about how an FN-Five Seven bragged about that it can penetrate armor. Well a frag 12 loaded in a sawn-off Mts-255 didn’t just penetrate, it destroyed body armor. The mannequin exploded in a red hot fireball, and the magnitude was pretty impressive for a small missile of utter death. I wished I had a camera because I would have loved to record that awesome event.
This seems pretty fucking bullshit m8
>>29545498
I have no clue on what the Frag-12 is capable of, so I can't really comment.
>>29544559
Found this.
R.I.P mate.
>>29546838
No....no please no.
>>29544559
Bump for Australians just waking up.
>>29544627
>You want to keep your guns in this country? Vote below the line, LDP, SFP, ALA. Vote freedom.
You should clarify that this is vote below the line on the senate ballot paper.
>Except that individual state Weapons Acts don't have anything to do with the Federal Govt so prepare for the worst still.
This is the real risk. Think Victoria with its socialist premier who's popularity is plummeting due to stupid policies and wasting $1.1Bn not building a road. Using firearms as a populist whipping boy is a strong risk.
>>29544759
>Yep, see Robert Borsak saying no one needs a semi-auto?
Don't vote SFP. Borsak has shown he's willing to throw us under the bus to please the nogunz.
>>29545191
An anon posted on here that it will be classified Cat D because the legislation includes using gas or recoil for any part of the reloading cycle as the definition for semi-auto.
From memory this technically means anything that extracts, ejects, cocks, unlocks or feeds automatically after firing could satisfy the definition of semi-auto.
>>29550573
This is where state legislation gets funny, in QLD it has to be SELF LOADING (as in completing the loading cycle without interruption) so this would be a cat B on paper.
>>29550715
Just had a read through of the Qld laws. This is one of the worst drafted pieces of legislation I've read.
The Weapons Act 1990 doesn't provided a definition of semi-automatic, self-loading or the respective categories of firearms. However, it refers to both semi-automatic and self-loading firearms in contradictory ways.
The definition of firearm categories are found in the Weapons Categories Regulation 1997. It uses different terms throughout the document. For example: s 2(1)(d-e) require a Cat A to be a rimfire or shotgun, other than a self-loading shotgun or rimfire rifle, or a P/A shotgun. However, there's no mention of this requirement in s 3 outlining what a Cat B firearm is.
Then in s 4 Cat C firearms are defined as semi-automatic rimfire rifles and shotguns, and P/A shotguns. Note the two different terms. Giving police, shooters and the courts different terms to work with is poor form.
This poor drafting continues: At s 5 the regulations define Cat D as self-loading rifles, once again returning to a different term.
What's worse is the act provides no definition of what a self-loading or semi-automatic firearm is. The courts usually arrive a (reasonably) logical position, especially the higher courts. However, police cannot be trusted with such broad terms.
Really poor form on Queensland's part.
>>29551437
That's what happens when you rush legislation through. Another reason I can't believe these laws were drafted and in waiting since the late 80s because the lack of proof reading and clarification is mind boggling.
>>29545244
The Alfa Carbine is fucked. I shot the 22lr version and got my face sprayed with burning powder. Shit sucks.
>>29551437
Not to defend the act but did you also read the 1996 Regulations?
Pretty sure it's in there.
Saw an Intratec 22 Sport today. cat H legal, $1700 lmao.
>>29544759
I vote LDP 1. SFP 2.
FUDDS are better then antis.
>>29545163
Pretty keen for this, i just wish the company name had a few less letters. Coventer? Covenator? Idk, covenanter doesnt roll off the tounge nicely
>>29555812
>>29556690
Top fucking kek
>>29556690
Hahaha fuck......hes a fucking champion
>>29556690
fuckin oath m8
>>29556690
S A V A G E
fuck we need more LDP in government just for the meme magic they bring
guns + castle laws are just a bonus
>>29556690
B A S E D D A V I D
Did the GOU poster ever update us on his meeting with based David?
>>29556690
Even the gay community hates Garry Burns' activism. He's a disruptive cunt.
He's one of those idiots who thinks that because he's fighting "the good fight" he can say or do anything.
>>29544559
So we aren't getting more funs are we?
>>29558698
Didn't happen, got the dates mixed up.
It's on Wednesday, but I'll have work. Other FOU people are going. It's an open event with LDP Victoria, in Camberwell.
>>29562739
There's a new Aus gun released in 20 days.
