Is a carrier strike group the most powerful formation on earth?
>>29529372
>le "airpower can win wars" meme
No.
>>29529400
Army fags fought for 6 years to end ww2 and then USAF actually did it in a few days with 2 bombs
>>29530583
yfw the US entered in 41 and the war ended in 45
>>29530583
>USAF
>1945
Get mad
>>29530624
I meant army fags in general
>>29530639
All real US air power belongs to USAF
>>29530583
>U.S. ARMY Air force
>yfw it was "army fags" that did all the flying
>>29529372
If it wasn't we'd've heard about the strongest by now. Their only competitors are Soviet Kirov groups and Iranian missile boat zerg.
Probably a nuclear submarine. Can take out a whole country on it's own.
>>29530656
>All real US air power belongs to USAF
Except the USAF didn't exist until 1947. It was the US Army Air Corps/Force before then, dipshit.
>>29530680
The rule applies retroactively. The airpower contributed to the 1919 polish soviet war was also USAF
>>29530694
Anon, you didn't even know when the USAF was formed, or the fact that it was a branch of the Army under a different name during WWI and WWII. Literally one of the happiest moments of Curtis Lemay's professional life was the removal of the word "Army" from US air forces seals and insignias. It's time to stop posting.
>>29530772
>not knowing half the navy is USAF
>not knowing half the USMC is USAF
>not knowing boeing is USAF
Casual fags.
>>29530772
Fun fact. When a paratrooper is in the air they are USAF
>>29530674
Nuclear subs are typically part of a carrier group, brush
>>29530849
I did not know that. I'm going to try and read about that. Got a good source?
>>29530955
>source: my ass.
>>29530865
>SSBNs are typically part of a carrier group
>>29529372
carrier strike groups are hard countered by ion canons
>>29530680
>What is the Marines?
>What is the Navy?
>>29530583
>Japan surrender
>Ending WW2
Retard alert
>>29530583
Good luck nuking Japan from Hawaii or Australia.
>>29530583
Army fags fought for 6 years to get USAAF heavy bombers in range of Japanese home islands.
Fix'd
>>29531807
>What was Peleliu.
>What was Iwo Jima.
>What was Okinawa.
>What was Philippines.
someone say most powerful naval formation?
>>29532786
>Needing two escorts to protect a ship that's main armament has less engagement range than secondary armament.
>>29532806
>talking smack about best boat
>>29532786
Not even fucking close. A SAG with a Tico and three Burkes would be more powerful and combat effective in modern naval combat.
>>29529372
>>29532786
Step aside, wimps.
Nah, a carrier group escorting a troop transport fleet is the most formidable force on Earth.
With maybe a year of preparation, the U.S. Navy, Marine corps, Coast Guard, and Army could transport upwards of 100,000 men into war at once, in a single fleet.
>>29533143
That carrier is missing its tug
>>29533191
That is only in the Kara Sea, the tug isn't really needed.
>>29533207
>the tug isn't really needed
Just accept the fact that Russia's carrier is more of a trainer for short runway landings.
>>29529400
Speer said as much.
>When the American attacks began, Speer feared that they were the opening salvos of a “long expected and long feared” single-industry offensive. Fortunately for Germany, they were not. On Sir Arthur Tedder’s orders, American bombers continued to drop most of their tonnage on targets other than oil. After the war, Speer told American interrogators that a full-out offensive against the synthetic plants by the combined air armadas of England and America—closely spaced raids, night and day, without cease—could [alone] have brought about Germany’s surrenderin eight weeks.”
But Speer was a Nazi. And Nazis are dicks.
>>29533443
Pretty sure they did extensive bombing raids on known oil refineries. Ploesti is a pretty nasty one for instance, wasnt a safe target to hit for bomber crews. Especially when some chucklefuck decided a low-level raid was a good idea.
>>29533772
Ploesti was the biggest concentration of AA guns in the world.
With that being said, it wasn't a synthetic plant.
>>29529372
Yes.
>>29529372
Against 3 world countries, yes.
With amount of long range anti-ship real navies are packing, no.
>>29534287
The longest range anti-ship is a plane carrying missiles.
>>29534354
>cruise missiles don't exist
>>29530865
Not boomers. Attack boats, which don't carry ICBMs.
>>29534287
>With amount of long range anti-ship real navies are packing, no.
If the target is a USN cbg, its packing a whole lot more interceptors.
>>29534405
I repeat my statement with added emphasis. A plane can fly the distance a cruise missile can be launched, if not by itself, then with the help of a tanker. It can then launch a missile, which has its own range, which can be rather large.
>>29534464
than what, gruop of destroyers costing same as carrier group?
>>29534468
>plane can't be intercepted by other plane
>>29534512
Yeah. Destroyers fill up with SAMs, not AShMs.
>>29534512
Being that you can quad pack interceptors and there are normally more interceptors than offensive missles and that there is a carrier full of planes that can shoot down missles...
Yes. Absolutely yes.
>>29534526
The same could be leveled against cruise missiles.
>>29534526
>Planes cant shoot down cruise missles.
>>29534538
>cruise missiles can shoot down cruise missiles
shitloads of small subs with, torps, and antiship missiles. supported by shitloads of mtbs with torps sam and antiship missiles.
would kick ass at sea at least.
>>29534535
>carrier full of planes that can shoot down missiles
...... Good luck trying that....
>>29534585
What exactly is going to prevent it?
>>29534551
That's not what as being said and you know it. At the same time, while not cruise missiles, yes, that's generally the point.
>>29534585
They do t by catapulting crewmen into incoming missiles
>>29534611
>equating planes and cruise missiles
>butthurt over being called out
>>29534682
He didnt equate them, he said one was better.
>>29534692
>i lie to defend randoms on the internet
>>29534682
Where did I equate them? I said that cruise missiles could get intercepted. This is a really shitty trolling effort. You gotta base things off reality for an effective troll. Mix in truths with half truths.
>>29534799
>calling people trolls when out of arguments
>>29534813
There's really no response at this point except to express sadness and regret.
>>29534793
>lie
Im sorry your illiterate anon. Im just so sorry.
