Okay, can someone please explain WTF is going on with all the recent conflicts being so god forsaken slow?
Armenia-Azeri 1 week a few square km’s changed hands and maybe 100 dead
Russia intervention in Syria: 7 months, a few thousand square km’s changed hands, and maybe 10000 dead
Russia intervention in novo Russia: 2 years (7 months of Russian invasion with more than 2500 Russians dying), ~6000 square kilometers changing hands, ~15k dead.
Seriously why have these all been so slow, when a decade before we had:
Invasion of Iraq, 5 weeks, 15k dead 438000 square km changing hands
Invasion of Afghanistan: 3 months, ~20k dead, 652000 square km changing hands
Has something new been developed that prevents mobile warfare? Have the modern combatants simply sucked at warfare? If so, why? (by that I mean why have they been having problems moving and fighting, whereas the us had absolutely no problem wiping out other third rate countries)
>>29518454
>And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
>>29518454
You can't expect every country to move at the pace of the US army on warpath.
When war drags on for a long time with no progress, shit doesn't change for a while. Since in a lot of cases a 1st world military isn't fully commited (Russian intervention in Syria only partially counts, they were there as advisers and to run CAS not to fight the SAA's battles for them). Sometimes its geopolitics, sometimes it's a legitimate stalemate. Hell there's some places where war has gone on for decades without end (FARC in Columbia, Muzzie/Commie insurgency in Flipland, unending fuckfest in the Congo, etc). I'm sure sometime in the next decade or two one of the world big powers will come in and shreck some smaller nation but for now it's basically waiting for a breakthrough in one of the ongoing conflicts.
>>29518454
These conflicts are designed to remove populations from the land where there is oil, natural gas and pipelines that will be built. The response from all governments has not been appropriate.
because both sides are shooting back
>>29518528
Pretty much this. Fully invaded by the US = Having a bad day
>>29518528
>>29519148
People forget how badly we were slapping the Iraqi military around and how quickly it switched to "well shit we conquered the country, now what?" COIN BS that the US typically isn't so hot at. TV stations were covering it like a football game and the embedded reporters were very rarely in any sort of danger.
Novorussia's objective was to salvage old Soviet military manufacturing equipment & fuck up Ukraine. They weren't supposed to capture anything, just sit on their asses while Russians gutted remnants of Soviet military factories and Ukraine kills itself via its own stupidity.
Armenia-Azeri, this shit feels forced. Maybe turks asked Azers to attack Armenia? IDK.
>>29518454
>Armenia-Azeri 1 week a few square km’s changed hands and maybe 100 dead
Neither side is strong enough to have a credible chance of victory, so they both de-escalated
>Russia intervention in Syria: 7 months, a few thousand square km’s changed hands, and maybe 10000 dead
SAA is not strong enough to win on its own, and the Russians were only really interested in arresting the collapse of the regime, not conquering Syria on behalf of Assad and never really tried. A weak Syria dependant on Russian aid is just as useful to Russia as a strong, united Syria (and more pliable).
>Russia intervention in novo Russia: 2 years (7 months of Russian invasion with more than 2500 Russians dying), ~6000 square kilometers changing hands, ~15k dead.
Again, rebs are too weak to win by themselves, Russians limit their involvement, they're more interested in destabilising Ukraine to prevent the west from accepting it than they are in conquering it. And the Ukrainians can't win because whenever they're close to winning, the Russians intervene. Plus they can't use their air power effectivly because of Russians area denial, which they can't use SEAD against because most of the assets are on the Russian side of the border.
>>29518454
Because none of thouse countries compares to the US, thats just the cold hard truth.
Only the US has the logistical capabilities to support a fuckhuge armored advance, the training and knowhow to conduct various ops, from urban operations to mechanized warfare, and the tech to give itself a distinct advantage and tie it all together.
>>29522266
>this shit feels forced
And that would be different from Ukraine how?
>>29518454
It's very complicated. In USSR there wasn't a trouble to cut some land from one republic and give it to another republic for administrative reasons. When USSR fell this turned into a problem. So, some little civil war happened. South Osetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia, Transnistria. All of them claimed independence and won in a war for it. They all were part of Soviet economy, so connection to Russia pretty strong with them. But Russia didn't helped them in 90th, because they had their own problems. In general it looked that way -
Big republic declares independence from USSR.
Small rebublic declares independence from Big republic.
War.
Small republic take weapon from withdrawn Russian forces and kick Big republic's butts.
Russia comes and forces sides to sight peace agreement.
Maybe put some peacekeeping force to stay.
???
Frozen conflict!
Russia has/had peacekeeping missions in South Osetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria. Georgia in 2008 tried to bring South Osetia back and get his ass kicked. Independent Abkhazia, BTW also former part of Georgia, had part in this conflict too.
Now AZ tries to bring back NK back, because of TURKS EVIL PLOTS AGAINST RUSSIA, lol.
Problem for AZ is 20 years of NK preparation for that. NK and Armenia has pretty decent AA and fortifications. NK has problems because of AZ pretty modern stuff from Israil and Ukraine. Both sides can't use airforce because of relatively powerful AA, both sides can't use tactical misslies and both sides has problems with heavy rocket artillery, because Russia&Iran will come and punish them for so "unselective" weapon. AZ can't push really hard because humanitarian reasons and because then Armenia will help with full sized military operation (NK is still independent republic with their own military) and Russia can come up with serious economical suctions.
