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>AR-15 Petiton draft submitted to parlament, Cutoff May 7. 22.5k and counting.
http://www.e111.ca
>Petition to add property rights to the charter. Cutoff May 13. 4.1k and counting.
https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-124
>Bill C-230 An Act to amend the Criminal Code (firearm — definition of variant) Status: Introduced
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8111356
>BIll C-246 Modernizing Animal Protections(Hunting - More strict measures against hunters/trappers) Act Status: Introduced
http://www.parl.gc.ca/legisinfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8122718
>Quebec LGR petition has wrapped up with a reported 58k signatures (42k digital). Public hearings on the bill to start March 23.
>Quebec Premier has said there will be no free vote on the matter.
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/2016/03/16/couillard-rules-out-free-vote-for-liberals-on-long-gun-registry.html
>Some kids in Nova Scotia tried to pull a Columbine and failed
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1354360-bag-of-weapons-found-near-millwood-high-after-lock-down
No new news on the QC LGR
Pastebin online retailer list has been removed and replaced with a google doc of retailers
Sheet 1 is retailers that sell firearms, Sheet 2 is retailers that sell only parts or gear, Sheet 3 is stores or ranges that allow non-pal holders to rent and shoot.
Direct link to doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XpZ23U6Oav2acyzdUE1Ai_T0DYjamv3oN04h3LI_r8Q/edit?usp=sharing
>>29511095
bump
mosin as a first gun
is slavshit a good option?
>>29512710
Im in de same boat as u , any good places to buy ?
also waiting for my rpal
Anyone have experience with removing wet rat?
I've always used 12 guage with 00 buck cause those fuckers are a small target when swimming.
Curious about what other people use.
>>29512779
Westrifle mah nigga.
>>29512710
Mosin is a terrible first gun, I should know, it was my first gun.
>>29513064
>Westrifle
gratz chummer
>>29513096
>>>29513064 (You)
>gratz chummer
What on earth does this translate to?
>>29513114
"Gratz" means "congratulations". "Chummer" is like "buddy".
>>29513124
Oh thanks, I must be out of touch.
>>29513088
This. My m44 was my first rifle and its not even that bad but it wasn't a good first rifle. I've since sold it.
>>29513096
>chummer
Go back to Shadowrun General and let them know Eiger is best grill.
Any interesting shotguns newly available to the Canadian market? Something affordable, preferably.
>Some kids in Nova Scotia tried to pull a Columbine and failed
No they didn't. I live literally right next to the school (I could walk out on to my front porch and hit it with a rock) and the only people freaking out about it are soccer moms. The kids basically stole two long guns and tried to sell them to someone. They left a duffel bag of guns in the woods likely as a dead drop for their buyer to pick them up. Unfortunately for them, one of them dropped their BB gun as they were getting off the Halifax Transit bus and people saw who then called the police.
One kid was literally sitting in the cafeteria talking to people when he was arrested by an RCMP "tactical team".
At least that's what the Mountie sitting in front of my house told me...
>>29513671
man who sells fucking guns at school? thats some dumb neanderthal shit right there
il wait for the full story
>>29513671
This is why I'm glad I'm not on Normiebook anymore. I can already picture the fucking smug "WHY ISN'T IT CALLED TERRORISM WHEN WHITE PEOPLE DO IT #IStandWithDicks" posts.
>>29511095
Anyone in the Edmonton area wanna shoot an ak you're welcome to come out to crownland
>>29512710
sks is the perfect first gun. learn how to clean and strip (so easy) can modify it like crazy (its was an assault rifle!!!!) cheap ammo (300$ for 1200 rounds) i can't say enough great stuff about the sks, in canada it is a must own and a perfect first gun.
>>29512710
Not good. Overall it's main selling point is that it's cheap. Nothing else particularly good about it. SKS or any cheap .22 or perhaps a VZ58 if you want to spend more.
>>29514223
Evenin' Archie. You're late to the thread today.
>>29514431
It's pretty fun
>>29514544
Killed an ant hill with 3 lbs of explosives
>>29514570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJ2jMZ-gaI
>>29513853
Can't wait to move back to America where I can buy handguns and AR15s Ina Walmart parking lot.
I really wish the gun laws where more laxed but then some dip shit does something stupid.
>>29514699
I'm hoping that Trudeau gets the boot next election, and that the next person in power is fairly pro-gun.
>>29514722
The CPC has to strongly unfuck itself before then, and that's not looking so good. Maybe we can meme the Libertarian Party into power.
>>29514768
Doubt it, and the CPC just needs a charismatic leader. Trudeau is already experiencing dissent among the populace, since his main selling point was weed and he's backed far away from that.
>>29514813
>Doubt it, and the CPC just needs a charismatic leader
Brad wall keeps turning them down, but he seems to be the only real leader among modern Canadian conservatives.
>>29513505
Look up the derya Mk 10. Or the Adler A110.
>>29515152
There sure seems to be a flood of turksih semi-autos dressed up as m16 rifles. Every retailer seems to now have their own special snowflake version.
Nothing against them, I am just surprised to see them after there was so little interest in the MKA 1919 a few years back.
>>29514768
Can they at least get rid of the RPAL because it does the same thing as a PAL just for and guns and ARs
>>29515674
I'd rather they start rolling PPAL stuff into RPAL territory.
>>29515430
Seemed like there was more interest for the MKA1919 after it was declared non restricted.
>>29514722
>I'm hoping that Trudeau gets the boot next election
Doubt it.
I'm willing to bet Trudeau will win at least one more election due to flimsy justification. People can easily convince themselves that "we kept Harper for three elections, one more term of Trudeau isn't gonna hurt that badly."
It would be a shitty reason, but I know for a fact that Trudeau won in the first place because "at least he's not Harper."
I think its very likely that when Trudeau implements his gun reform (repeal of the Common Sense Act except for implementing the LGR) the RCMP will start classifying non-restricted "variants" of the AR and AK to restricted or prohibited.
Apparently it's a recurring theme.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/sydney-academy-lockdown-school-cape-breton-weapons-complaint-1.3522810
>>29516412
Caper's gonna cape.
>>29516426
>In other News
http://www.capebretonpost.com/News/Local/2016-04-05/article-4488398/Hunting%2C-fishing-show-in-Sydney-Mines-offers-ideas-to-help-enjoy-outdoors/1
>>29514879
The only one with more than half a brain too, it seems.
And yes, I have been a staunch conservative my whole life, but the sheer STUPIDITY that comes from some of these candidates and MPs / MLAs / MPPs is mind boggling.
>>29515430
>so little interest in the MKA 1919 a few years back.
Im looking at buying one. Any reason for the lack of interest? It seems to have good reviews and looks like a fun weapons.
>>29516560
>Any reason for the lack of interest?
It was restricted at one point.
Most people use shotguns to fuck around in the woods. Hunting, shooting cans, blowing up dinner plates and old TVs, etc.
A shotgun that you can't take to the woods is virtually useless.
>>29516560
Most turk firearms are fucking terrible quality, but I have yet to hear anything bad about the MKA 1919 specifically.
I FUCKING HATE MOUNTAINS
I WANT TO SHOOT SOMEONE INNAWOODS THAT ISN'T SCARY CLIFFS AND NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A NICE EASY TO TRAVERSE LONG RANGE SPOT
REEEEE
>>29514223
I'd join ya, but I wanna wait until I can afford that Type 97/YMA, and I want to take my Mohawk out and test it first before I start showing it off, now that I got my cross pin in.
>>29516402
C-230 would (should) shit on any attempt to do that.
>>29512710
SKS is best first gun. Easy to clean, cheap, cheap to feed and fun.
>>29516664
>I WANT TO SHOOT SOMEONE INNAWOODS
>SOMEONE
Party Van's on the way. RIP Anon
>>29516603
I didnt know it was restricted before. I only noticed it recently and have only considered buying it for the very reason that I dont buy anything thats not non-restricted. As you said, there is no point in owning a gun you cant fuck off in to crown and use.
>>29516609
Neither have i.
>>29516682
>that face
Kills my boner every single time.
>>29516693
>I only noticed it recently
As you should. It was recently re-classified to Non-Restricted, and Canadian gun stores everywhere are promoting the shit out of it because A) More customers are able to buy it and B) Some may regard this as a small victory for Canadian gun "rights," so what better way to celebrate than to buy something that can be seen as a historical landmark?
>>29516676
As far as I'm aware C-230 isn't law yet, though I hope it does.
>>29516682
it was a typo
seriously though I FUCKIN HATE SCARY MOUNTAINS
>>29516937
Do you literally live on top of the fucking rockies, or what?
>>29516676
Come out Saturday don't be a faggot some russian ex military will be coming, navel infantry actually.
why the fuck can't this be cheaper? 3k for a fucking ar 15 that's nonrestricted fuck this shit.
>>29517134
Eh, my old boss was ex-Red Army. Nothing exciting, just lots of stories.
Besides, I'm looking into some CL closer by. Right now I have a closer spot than fucking Wildwood, but apparently someone I know knows someone who goes out near Gibbons to shoot his BP guns. Apparently. I gotta wait until he gets back to town and ask him.
>>29516104
I mean really anything to benefit gun owners.
We already have a license why can't you own an AK but can have an sks and a vz.58?
Gun laws make zero sense.
How much is too much for an Ontario M9 bayonet? Any recommendations for places/sites where I could buy one for cheap?
>>29517180
Because fuck you that's why.
My favorite part of an AR-15 is the charging handle on top which the modern hunter lack. For slightly less you can get an ACR or XCR, but they're also not ARs.
I might be going to the Great White North for work next month. I don't want to buy any SVT-40's or any other guns. But I do want to know if a gun store would sell SVT magazines and a bayonet to an American?
>>29517193
Well I shouldn't say ex military, I'm pretty sure their on leave studying in Canada they're younger than me
>>29517296
Doubt they'd sell you anything without a PAL. Also, the SVT magazines would be pinned to 5 rounds.
>>29517275
i think i'm just gonna build my own AR 15 and not regard gun laws. i can go to most ranges and 3 gun comps anyway can't I?
>>29517251
You'd be much better off with an OKC-3S bayonet if you ever plan on using it for anything at all. If you are deadset on an M9, you might as well go for one of the Smith and Wesson knockoffs. It's an inherently bad design and it'll cost you less when it breaks.
>>29517312
I could live with them being pinned. Just need one that works. Think I'm going to give it a try anyways.
Thanks!
>>29517313
You still have to buy the lower which is restricted and will require registration and what not.
You could however buy an 80% lower and finish it.
>>29517313
>i think i'm just gonna build my own AR 15 and not regard gun laws
Wew Constable, you sure are busy this thread.
>>29517351
true. i wonder what 80% would be good. i always liked the Spikes ones for the glossy finish.
>>29517372
i also don't have a front plate.
>>29517313
Build an 80% and finish it discreetly. If you're gonna break the law, don't be stupid like me.
>>29517313
Go for it man, if you get internet in prison you can tell us how it went.
>>29517393
what's a decent 80%?
Does anyone here have experience with the XCR? I'm thinking of getting one in 5.56 with the extended handguard, is it worth it? I'd get an AR but I can't bring myself to get a restricted rifle, and the ergonomics on this look pretty good. I figure that if I don't like it I can sell it and build a halfway decent AR with the money anyway.
>>29517313
Might as well just cross into the states, buy it then bring it back.
>>29517437
I'm looking into and XCR as well, also in 5.56. My research tells me that it sometimes has problems with it's gas system which results in a failure to eject.
>>29517442
yeah but don't i need a license to buy a receiver still in the states?
>>29517437
>[CURRENT YEAR]
>giving money to Alex Robinson
Why not buy an ACR?
>>29517478
Why buy an ACR?
>>29517461
I've read that that it ejects really well on the higher settings.
>>29517478
Shit's never in stock anywhere.
>>29517494
Because I want to stick my erect penis inside of an ACR.
Has anyone seen 7.62x39 pistol mags in-stock anywhere?
>>29517312
>>29517327
You can just remove the pins once you're back in Murrica anyway.
>>29517420
Dunno, never bought one.
>>29517494
Because it's viciously sexual, despite the flaws.
So gun owners of Canada is having a giveaway for a 1911, obviously you need an RPAL but didn't see anywhere it saying you need to be a member of a range to win it. From what I've seen is that you can't buy a restricted weapon without being a member of a range right?
>>29518164
Member of a range is certain provinces CFO's own bullshit. Basically they will try to cock block you unless you have a range membership or are a collector.
https://twitter.com/ForcesJobs
every other tweet is a diversity celebration.
Tannerite is startlingly fun
So what the hell is the deal with 80% lowers? Are they considered paper weights? Can I go to the US and buy an 80% lower and bring it back without the shenanigans?
>>29513505
Cabella's (and a few local funstores) sells the Benelli M4 Super 90 if you have $2,600 + tax burning a hole in your pocket. It's not affordable but fuck me if it isn't the nicest shotgun ever.
They also sell the Benelli Supernova 3.5" Tactical with a 14" barrel for $1,100. It's non-restricted, magnum, and short.
You can get several types of short-barrelled shotguns (non-restricted) for cheap like the Grizzly Arms Remington 870 clone from Canada Ammo for $350 to $400 depending on the version.
Corwin arms sells some short-barreled Turkish stuff that seems fun and non-restricted. They will only set you back $160 or so.
>>29519137
Apparently those single barrel Turk shotguns are pretty good, I'm hoping to get one soon.
>>29518883
blow up a lawnmower
>>29519262
I have 3 grenades I don't need a lawnmower
>>29512859
I've had some luck with 9mm from about 100 yards. Shooting down into a dam from a hill.
>>29519232
A couple anons on here gave good reviews; they said they were very solid and went bang every time so I'm planning on buying one when my PAL ever shows up. They're single shot break actions with external hammers; pretty hard to fuck up.
>>29517180
NEA is really close to a NR AR10 clone that they want to market at $1500. We'll see what happens, but I'm hopeful
>>29517393
I love that you of all people are promoting discretion. You who has given out so much personal info that the RCMP could track you down easily if only they gave a single solitary fuck.
Honestly though, you are my hero for what you do.
You can just make a range on your land if you live on an acerage right? No other fucks needed?
>>29520377
I'm making an underground one.
>>29520377
You can shoot NR on your land if its outside a city/allows discharge of firearms in your area.
You can shoot R if you get your land approved as a range by a CFO inspection (Which is free btw), which differs by province but mostly is just having a suitable backstop.
>>29520377
Varies from province to province. Here in nova scotia, you need to get the Department Of Natural Resources to come out and inspect that you have a suitable piece of land for a range. After you get their thumbs up, you're good to go. Might want to check up on your provincial regs.
>>29520419
Check out the Innaground threads sometime. It's probably not a good idea.
Any of you boys ever run a PARE test?
I'm fixing on applying to the CPS, I've been running and swimming for a while to try and prepare but I'd be curious to hear from anybody who's done it what it's like/how hard it is (to complete in the allotted time that is)
OK so my current situation makes me unable to own a full AR-15 so I decided to shop around for everything minus the lower receiver which I would get at a later point. Now that I've learned that 80% lowers are not considered a weapon in Canada, should that be on my list and later be drilled out or just wait to buy a stripped lower once I can?
>>29522532
80% lowers are fairly expensive you can get comparable poly and 7075 lowers for less.
Unless you wanted an illegal unregistered lower, custom roll mark or serial 80%'s are an expensive novelty. Plus cost of jig, chance of fuck up, cost of anodization.
>>29522549
So better to just wait until I can get a stripped lower.
>>29522944
Yup way more choices too.
>>29518540
Well yeah, otherwise they get accused of racism. Must be interesting to be one of the few blacks or women in the forces though, I bet you get bonuses for being in photoshoots.
Someone sell me your Eagle Industries shit in Khaki.
Should i even bother going for my RPAL ?
Course coming up next week but owning a restricted seems like a pain in the ass.
>>29523948
Might as well, it could become easier in the future, and you'll always have the option should you change your mind.
>>29520736
I'm moleman, I started unnaground
>>29522532
Where are you at? I have a Poly lower I could let go for cheap, since I'm not doing anything with it. I think instead of building an AR, I'm gonna just buy a Norc.
>>29517015
BC, lower mainland
all the woodsy shooting spots are on crazy mountain logging roads
>>29523948
this is gonna sound crazy...but you should get it...if you wanna own restricted firearms.
>>29517327
>>29517296
you do not need a pal to buy magazines
>>29523948
it's not a pain in the ass at all, you just have to keep some extra papers for it, and double lock it
the shitty part is no innawoods
>>29523948
Do it. Restricteds are fun, and depending on where you are, you can just go shoot them innawoods anyway.
My dream is to own a big enough chunk of land that I can have an approved range, and create my own small "club" with like $.50 membership fees, just for the purpose of more people buying Restricteds. And if any local Anons want to shoot, they can do so on my land.
>>29524134
>depending on where you are, you can just go shoot them innawoods anyway
except for you know, the threat of a several year prison sentence
>>29524160
It's exceedingly rare to see a fish cop in my area, which is why I said "depending on where you are". I do it all the time because where I go to shoot, it's nearly impossible to get caught.
>>29524482
I think the most likely scenario is getting pulled over and having no reasonable explanation as to why you have a restricted with you
>>29524099
GTA Area.
>>29523380
who cares about accusations. the military isnt suppose to be a democracy its suppose to protect it. this kind of shit should stay outside the military completely.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/social-media-mitic-tweet-1.3495376
Reasonably moderate article, poll at the bottom.
>>29525262
stupid poll
this is the only poll that matters
http://strawpoll.me/7282072/
>@CBCOttawa @JODYMITIC people who get that excited about firearm purchases are frightening.
lol what
being excited about a purchase is frightening?
>>29524936
The military does, because if they get "muh hurt feelings" accusations then they get funding cuts from the government. It isn't so much the internal forces that matter, it's the external ones.
>>29524134
The problem is that the CFO won't let it happen
If you try to get it approved, they'll demand huge, expensive changes constantly until you give up. Not because they're necessary, just to prevent you from having your range. They're power-tripping assholes.
If I had the land, I'd make my own little range and just shoot pistols on my land. Not like cops can patrol your land to catch you
>>29525303
gunz r bad mkay
>>29524908
>>29524099
It's an 80% lower right? Come with the jigs or just the lower?
Where do GTA fags go to enjoy the sport anyway?
from what I understand, the closest proper range is like 2 hours by car, closest crown land where you can do target shooting is probably twice that.
>>29526717
silverdale is about an hour away with good taffic from etobicoke. They have a cool action range nd a 200 yard range and some steel plates to shoot. they also have trap.
all in all id say 7/10 range. outdoors but id wish it would go further and the action range was a little larger.
>>29526717
Hamilton and the Niagara region have many ranges. The Hamilton gun club offers trapshooting lessons, and the Silverdale gun club has classes on pistol, shotgun, and tactical rifle shooting during the summer.
>>29525480
Some guy on CGN did it, in Sask I think.
I think he got approved for handguns only though (like they'll ever know if he shoots an AR).
What are Ontario laws regarding carrying a firearm in the wilderness for protection from wildlife/predators? It seems very ambiguous here.
>>29512859
Trap them and keep the fur. Cmon dude.
>>29528779
Don't confuse the criminal code with the Fish and Wildlife act that the MNR fuck around with.
On crown land innawoods and a cop roles by? Likely no problem. An MNR officer stops you, better chance they fuck you for poaching.
I always carry some paper targets folded up in my bag and a copy of the Fish and Wildlife act with the appropriate sections higlighted so if in the rare chance the MNR stop me I can just say I'm out target shooting and hiking.
If the MNR stop you, you have to prove you are not poaching, and doing the steps above has stopped the MNR charging me with stupid shit twice. As I said it's usually rare to run in to them at all.
You can shoot a wild animal in defense, but you can't use that as the reason for having the gun out in the eyes of the MNR.
>>29528779
From the little info i dug up you just need to be in the bush and carry your PAL with you,
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/wild-sauvage-eng.htm
>>29528868
That's so fucking dumb. I can't stand this shit sometimes. I can literally stroll around with shotgun or rifle in my trunk, but god forbid I actually have one on me in the wilderness for a good reason.
That's a good method you have. How solid is that defence?
>>29528872
That only states that it legal for licensed trappers and those working a lawful occupation in the wilderness. Then it goes on further to state restrictions on hunting off season and national parks.
>>29528929
That defense has worked perfectly in the two interactions with the MNR I have ever had.
How the F and W act works is that it involves a guilty until proven innocent mentality when it comes to poaching. If you have a firearm out with you hiking and the MNR stop you, you can tell them you have it to shoot targets or whatever but that doesn't mean they will belive you.
By having targets on me, and by presenting my copy of the act with the appropriate clauses highlighted regarding target shooting, the officer not only has to acknowledge that info in any report he does, it also shows him that I have a valid defense and it wouldn't be worth his time charging me and dealing with it in court. Some MNR officers don't like taking risks on not charging potential poachers so the more comfortable you make them feel the more likely they will let you go.
Ontario is stupid and the Liberals like to use the MNR as their special way to override the Criminal Code and the Firearms act.
To the credit of the MNR, all have been very nice and if you treat them nicely and acknowledge they are just doing their job you will have a good time.
>>29528779
NR guns you can take, but should bring some gear to make it look like you're planning to go, or are coming back from, target shooting. R guns you need a wilderness ATC.
>>29528984
Being a Murican, I gotta say that still irks me. I appreciate the info.
Talk me out of splurging on the following items:
Soviet Nightvision that may or may not work for 70 euros
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/polish-pnw-57-tank-helmet-with-infrared-goggles-surplus/24667
>>29529098
An actual fez
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/italian-fez-hat-surplus/29760
>>29529107
and a tent that is slightly larger than the air mattress I carry.
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/french-2-person-tent-olive-drab-surplus/23920
Tent is 40 euros and the fez is 25
>>29529120
So like $2000 in maple bucks?
>>29529098
Y'see, I can easily rig up an alternate battery source for the goggles, but who knows if they'll work, and 100$ for gen 1 soviet night vision. But it'd be cool as fuck if it worked.
>>29529107
The fez is authentic and I could go get a red silk robe and take up smoking from a pipe. But it is 2/3rds the price of the tent for a joke hat.
>>29529120
I have a camper, and a ground sheet, and probably a nylon tent somewhere, and I don't camp often, but that's dirt cheap for an easy to set up canvas tent. Fuck nylon.
>>29529098
They look fucking stupid.
>>29529107
Also looks fucking stupid.
>>29529120
That may actually be useful, but I'd actually buy a nice tent.
>>29529141
$1 CAD = $0.76 USD
1 Euro = $1.14 USD
$1 CAD = 0.67 Euro
1 Euro = $1.49 CAD
Checkmate canatheists
PAL is in mail
I need a first gun, its between a mosin, SKS or a Savage Mark II 22lr
My all time favorite gun is the enfield but the gun itself and ammo is too expensive
need some thoughts or perhaps some new ideas ( I really like bolt action)
>>29529606
My first gun was a Mark II and I love it to bits.
Fuck commie memeguns.
>>29529606
SKS would be the best choice IMO. Mosin has more expensive ammo, and isn't outstanding. Not to mention it's got far higher recoil than the SKS. The SKS will be more fun for you.
>>29529606
Save for the enfield anon. I know you want a fun now, but when you're using words like "all time favorite" you're just going to be disappointed by not having it.
>>29529925
If he gets an Enfield now, he won't be able to afford to shoot it
And then it'll be his only gun, so he'll never practice shooting
>>29530069
Maybe he won't be able to shoot if often, but it's better than going to the range every weekend and mauling some paper with a gun you don't really love.
t. didn't really love my first gun
>>29529925
I hear anons talking about finding enfields at gunshows all the time
interestingly enough theres a gun show on saturday. If I somehow receive my pal tomorrow, il go.
if not...I may purchase something else
>>29530235
I was just at the Calgary show. I was tempted to pick one up, since they were everywhere. Good condition Mk IIIs and IVs for $500 all around
A reputable dealer on CGN hinted that someone was bringing in some CZ 52 "Soon".
>>29530476
OH BOY, AN EASIER TO KABOOM TOKEREV, I CAN'T WAIT!
>>29530302
You mean rebuilt sporters. Most were parts rifles.
Didn't see any MkIVs, not unexpected as I doubt there are that many in Canada to start.
>>29530069
I have five guns and I'm still a shooting virgin.
>tfw all the nearby ranges are full and aren't accepting new memberships
>tfw the next closest ranges are incredibly shitty and have some stupid restrictions (no FMJ, no shotguns, no magnums, etc.)
My advice for Enfieldanon is to try and get it ASAP. Only reason I say that is because the longer you wait, the more expensive shit gets. Our dollar isn't looking very good right now. You can always buy ammo on your next paycheck.
>>29530589
Enfields are something of an exception in that they are already sitting in the country. There isn't a change in currency like CAD to USD or anything so the change in CAD value won't affect the prices nearly as much.
>.303 ammo on the other hand...
I'm looking at two Norc handguns. A 1911 clone and the DA P762. Which would you trust your life to, Canadabros.
>Muh .45
>Fits my hand perfectly
>Sex appeal
>Norcs apparently make great custom 1911 bases
vs
>Capacity
>SiGs are sexy, too
>Haven't shot one yet
>>29530708
Tell me about it. Lowest I can find is $27/box for Privi SP rounds. I wonder if modern .303 is safe to shoot out of this thing.
>>29516384
shitty as fuck reason to get elected in the first place. also he's first year in and i haven't heard anyone say anything positive that goes above "meh"
>>29531288
Just FYI the P762 is a Chinese close of the P226 rechambered for the 7.62x25 round. It's fun and all that, plus a modern x25 handgun, but it isn't actually a sig. Honestly I would trust my life to both, but if I was choosing one, I'd go with the 1911.
>>29531311
...maybe? I'd find out the original loadings that were done in the 30s and 40s and compare them to modern ammo. If they have similar amounts of energy produced then it should be ok, barring structural failure.
>>29531455
I know. The 762 has its flaws, but muh x25. 17 rounds of that Privi JHP should be enough to fuck someone's day right up.
>Oops, I mean 17 pinned to 10 :^)
Put it this way. In a beautiful, hypothetical world where we could get ATCs, which would be the better carry gun? I can't help but think
>But-but you only get 7rds in a 1911
Then immediately berate myself.
>>29531466
I guess I'll have to do some research, then. Gotta take it out sometime and make sure the damn thing works before dumping money into a mount.
>Beretta ARX series got classified
ARX160 (22lr military trainer) NR based on barrel length.
ARX100 (Semi auto 5.56 of military ARX-160) Prohibited, too easy to convert to full auto.
>>29531348
shit, it was all shit.
Harper may have been the closest among the candidates the average gun owner, but it wasn't just gun owners and 420#blazeit faggots who voted.
>>29531527
I carry a boberg arms xr9, small and light as fuck,fits in most pockets. Only 7+1 though
>>29532246
How is reliability for you I've heard these have some feeding issues.
>>29532270
I've only run Hornady critical defense and federal hst which Im currently using. Very light recoil for both and those are +p I think
>>29532202
Too bad it's a garbage rifle
Anyone /CF/ here? Curious: want to join at the end of next year. Was thinking Armour, but there's a height limit, right?
Also, who gets to ride around as a door gunner in our helos? What trade would I have to take for that?
>>29532246
I gotta get a subcompact for Work CC innapocket. I'm thinking either a Mak (if I can find one) or a Glock 26.
what's the cheapest place to get an SKS?
>>29532909
Maks are extremely scarce right now haven't been able to find one in months.
Two new budget 50BMG rifles coming to the Canadian Market
Single shot bolt action, Noreen ULR (*Also in 338LM, 408CheyTac, 416Barret) $3000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWswaNJ8ipk
Single shot break action / threaded breach block, Serbu RN $2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDxjq9SL6U
>>29532202
Oh well, we still have other options. It would have been nice, but it's not the end of the world.
>>29532942
Not sure if cheapest but I got mine from Marstar and everything came through very quickly and for a reasonable price. I couldn't be happier with what I got and it shot well right out of the box after some minor cleaning.
>>29535402
I recommend against Marstar, they're a bunch of assholes. Tradeex has some for cheap right now though, and they're good.
>>29535402
Got mine from Canadaammo a while back on special
$500 for a Russian and a 1400 case of non-corrosive
>>29533622
Serbu Fiddy Cal Single Shot!!!
Only $2,000!!!
>unscrew cap
>insert round
>screw cap back on
>fire by smashing firing pin in the middle of the cap
>unscrew cap
>remove shell casing
>insert new round
>screw cap back on
>mfw someone is trying to market a two thousand dollar pipe gun with a straight face
>>29535805
Still better than a Vulcan
Where can I get a cheap M1 Garand?
>>29536737
Define "cheap". $1500-2000 looks to be the going price.
>>29536737
>cheap
>garand
pick one
>>29536737
Curious. If you found one, how would you feed it?
So I'm building the "core" of my gun collection, lads, before I move onto the "toys". I want to cover all the bases first. Am I missing anything from my list?
I have a hunting shotgun, semi-auto hunting rifle, SKS, TT33, and a Skorpion (fulfils the "SMG/Machine Pistol" slot), but rest of my list is open for advice:
Bullpup Rifle:
A Type 97
Better Carry Pistol:
DA P762 or Norinco 1911
AR-15:
Norc CQ
HD Shotgun:
A Mossberg 500
Camping Gun:
An M44 nugget
A Vz.58
An M305
An SVT, P/U and bayonet
A subcompact/small gun (Mak, Glock 26, etc)
A nicer full-sized double-stack pistol
Build a good quality M16A1 clone.
Type 81
Revolver:
Something in .357/.38 Special
Bolt-Action Hunting Rifle:
-Savage, Tikka, Remington, Sako, etc. A typical "durr rifle".
Semi-auto shotgun:
A K-12 Puma
Scout Rifle:
Savage 11 Scout or Steyr Scout
A decent lever-action rifle
A decent S/A cowboy revolver
A BP pistol and flintlock rifle
A 10/22
Light Machine Gun:
An MG-34
?????
Am I missing anything? Maybe a large-calibre gun?
>>29536846
It would feast on my thumb.
>>29536858
-Something for long-range shooting
-a shotgun for sporting clays (semi-auto, O/U)
-a bolt action .22lr
>>29536858
>Bullpup Rifle:
>A Type 97
>Better Carry Pistol:
>DA P762 or Norinco 1911
>AR-15:
>Norc CQ
>HD Shotgun:
>A Mossberg 500
Instead of buying a bunch of bargain bin stuff, spend that wad of cash on something nice you're actually going to be happy with.
Trust me I've been there myself. Sold all the cheaper stuff and purchased things I don't feel like trading up towards down the road
Having one of something nice is plenty better than having a bunch of stuff that's just 'ok'.
>>29518883
Oh, my mom's boyfriend has a video on his phone of him and his buddies blowing up a trailer with tannerite.
Fucking hilarious.
>>29537057
I dunno, I like Norinco guns. And Mossy 500s are great little shotguns. >>29536997
Maybe a .22 pistol?
Also, I've been thinking about trying clays. SxS or O/U?
>>29535445
See, people say this and I have never had an issue and I have made 3 purchases through them. I ordered, a couple days later it shipped and was at my door within a week.
It was a painlessly simple process.
how does one begin with guns?
I've only ever shot some rifles with my brother-in-law.
Also, does canada have CC laws?
>>29537288
>CC
>Canada
Yeah, nah mate. We don't get to CC, probably never will.
But starting with guns is just getting a PAL. EZ PZ
>>29537219
.22 pistols are pretty boring imo
Shoot 2 mags and you'll want to pick up something else
>>29537288
>how does one begin with guns?
With the Canadian Firearms Safety Course.
CFSC: Regular 10h? Course + Written and Practical Exam
CRFSC: Regular Course + 4h segment on restricted firearms + 2 Written and 2 Practical Exams (Pistols, SBR Semi autos, AR-15 Variants)
The course is piss easy, basic laws and safety. Competition of the course allows you to apply for your Firearms P.A.L(Possession and Acquisition Licence) or RPAL (PAL+Restricted conditions)
>Also, does canada have CC laws?
We do have CC, but getting the licence for one is near impossible.
>>29537395
Yup. No lie, the course is stoooopid easy
I got every question right except for one because I rushed through it and misread it because it was worded in a double negative fashion.
>>29537219
>SxS or O/U
For clays O/U, and make sure it's a bit heavier (7.5lbs or more).
Just sent in my PAL app. Trying to think what a good first gun would be.
>Dad already owns an SKS
>Grew up shooting .22
>nb4 lol mosin
>>29537288
>does canada have CC laws
No. Don't even try it unless you want a stint as Her Majesty's guest.
There are possibilities for handgun ATC (Authorization To Carry), but as an off-the-street civilian, you'll probably get denied. It's mostly for people who require guns for a career like money truck drivers.
>>29537288
We do have CC, but good luck ever getting one. If you must CC, recognize the risk, and play your cards, as many do. Use a proper holster, wear an appropriate gun, and makes damn sure you have appropriate clothing. I recommend a shoulder holster for easy and thorough concealment.
>>29537896
Cz.527 in 7.62x39. You get bolt action goodness and ammo commonality with dad.
>>29538075
How well does good ol' x39 work as a hunting round? How would one of those compare to a typical Savage/Tikka/typical "durr rifle"?
>>29538686
works fine if you're in 100 yards
i have a friend who has hunted deer with his vz58
>>29538686
Sub 100 yards (200 if you're a particularly good shot with a scope) and using soft points works fine for durr hunting. Wouldn't go any larger or farther than that though.
>>29537057
Nice try, Chinese government. Also the Type 97 is a piece of shit.
rebellion against the Chinese economic overlords destroying BC when?
>>29538686
It should be comparable to a .30-30 or so with the appropriate bullet choices.
>>29539011
Yeah I agree. Those were copy and pasted
I was advising NOT to buy any of those.
Sure you can get a lot for cheap but its not a collection thats at all impressive
>>29539011
>>29539123
Most Norinco stuff is pretty good, most complaints about the T97 are the trigger (fixable) and the controls. Most of the other stuff on that list is decent. Not outstanding but the quality to price ratio is better than most. Some of their shit really is shit (1897 and 1887 shotguns I'm looking at you).
>>29513505
prophet river has those 13" break barrel 12 gauges. I have 2 they are pretty neat just get the 2nd gen one that has a raised bead and threaded barrel for chokes
>>29513784
I would try to flip literally anything (including funs) to fund myself when i was in high school.
I bet you are one of those guys that nobody likes at your range
>>29514223
>>29539586
jokes on you ive never been to a range before
checkmake
Have you guys seen cz75's for sale anywhere? I was psyched to get one but now no store or online shop has any in stock.
>>29514544
>barrel mounted bipod
>warm gatorade
you disgust me anon
>>29524160
she triggered me pretty hard anon thx
>>29533622
>32 lbs
ya na fuck that.
ill give her my pak42 though
>>29535838
story? is pic related?
>>29538032
this.
best shoulder holster confirmed miami classic 2 in black. the tan leather looks better but the straps show around your neck and are a giveaway where as black is harder to spot
>>29539634
>barrel mounted bipod
Whats wrong with that? (Honest question)
>>29539797
barrel harmonics man. Its really nowhere near the type of rifle where it matters but its still disgusting to see
>>29514544
>P.R.O.V.E.
>point the gun in a safe direction
Way to block the path, bungler.
does anybody in canada have sp-01 tactical in stock?
Is an NEA-15 any good? Its 900$ with military discount and I am cheap.
Would I be wasting my money?
>>29540069
Is this it?
http://www.targetsportscanada.com/products/cz-cz75-sp-01-tactical-9mm-lug-1
https://fishingworld.ca/products/8811-cz-75sp-01-shadow-9mm
>>29540316
>http://www.targetsportscanada.com/products/cz-cz75-sp-01-tactical-9mm-lug-1
Tactical is sold out, shadow might be ok but I dont really want a safety.
Im starting to think of getting an M&P 9 pro, anybody have any experience with it?
>>29539618
Didn't have an issue when I got mine
I think Calgary Shooting Centre and The Shooting Edge have some in stock
>>29539732
Guy thought a ~$1,000 .50 BMG from the worst possible company was a good idea
Literally the first round (factory ammo), lugs all sheared off and the bolt embedded itself in his shoulder
>>29540781
which company?
>>29541638
Vulcan. Or Hesse or Blackthorne or whatever. They're all the same company: they're known for making some of these worst rifles money can buy, and the owner just changes the name and reorganizes when people stop buying their brand. They cannot even make an AR15 that isn't absolute dogshit, why they thought it was a good idea to do a .50 is anybody's guess
>>29540419
I do, my buddy has a pro. it aims nicer than my g17 because 1911 grip angle but my rtf2 is infinitely faster on follow ups because rtf2, glock grip angle and the vickers combat sights. its a good target pistol but i would hands down take my glock if i had to get into a scrap and just wanna put as many holes in someone asap
>>29540419
dont go shadow man its an IPSC gun. me and my 3 buddies between us have owned them all and have broken it down this way. a glock 17 in rtf2 is hands down the fastest in terms of aim shoot and follow up shot.
m&p is a more comfortable angled pistol but is slower on follow ups and the frame grip is only ok at best.
p320 is a great gun but super high bore access and the frame is absolute shit in terms of grip texture.
stay away from vp9 cuz of questionable quality and stupid euro mag release unless you dont like faster reloads with thumb actuated mag AND slide release.
fuck the p99 because of its dumbass loaded chamber indicator in bright orange. It draws the focus of your eyes away from the front sight to the back which is BAD unless you are a complete pleb and dont shoot/aim with both eyes open
>>29511095
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XpZ23U6Oav2acyzdUE1Ai_T0DYjamv3oN04h3LI_r8Q/edit?usp=sharing
inb4 I can no longer find a non-restricted Swiss Arms Classic green for sale.
>>29543945
https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/ProductDetail/SWISACGFT7TW_Swiss-Arms-Classic-Green-Rifle-5-56-Nato-1-7-Twist--Flat-Top
