Charging handles
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So what CH placement is the best /k/?
>>29511000
Ambi. Left side is nice too, but on guns where it reciprocates the additional slot in the receiver cover is just one more place to get dirt.
>>29511000
Probably either an FAL or G3
Probably on the left for me so i can keep my right hand on the pistol grip
>>29511000
the AR's charging handle isn't particularly that ergonomic but it's nicely closed off and there's no reciprocating parts sticking out the side, and normally you can just use the bolt release anyway.
>>29511000
the mp/scar/FAL style one that's non reciprocating but is also on the left side for easy use during right handed shooting... Why did you even ask?
Left side, better if close to magazine.
>>29511000
I like the AR's T-handle personally, but it is a weak point being that it's pretty fragile. If it was beefed up I'd say it's perfect in my opinion.
>>29511011
G3 is terrible placement
>>29511000
For coolness factor?
G3
For usefulness? Whatever you train with and are comfortable with.
>>29511000
IMO, it doesn't matter that much as long as you practice with it.
That said, I like ambi designs, and I like reciprocating handles.
>>29511053
lol
Nice one, kid
>>29511000
I'm left handed.
I have an AR. The AR charging handle doesn't work with any kind of riser or cheek pad if the stock is collapsed and it's not something you would use while the gun is shouldered.
I haven't used the picture related one but it sure does seem like it would be better.
>>29511011
>>29511053
>>29511070
Thats definitely not a G3 or PTR91
>>29511086
Dead serious
Not to mention the G3s lack of a last round bolt hold open make reloading take twenty one centuries longer than it should.
>>29511130
I didn't even look at the picture until now.
I just think slap bolts are sexy.
>>29511130
They're not saying it is, they're just arguing the placement which is similar as in OPs pic
>>29511000
can we just say AK's are the worst and most awkward
>>29511144
>he doesn't know how to charge an AK
>>29511144
Sure, but it's not really awkward at all. Just tilt the gun to the left.
>>29511144
Lefty here
eat shit
Ambi, towards the middle of the receiver.
>>29511154
>a charge handle positioned so awkwardly it requires operator to learn a special technique just to operate it
So AR mag releases that require a tool to operate are better as well since other shitty guns don't need it.
Face it, AK is obsolete, which is why AK12 was made which takes ergonomy lessons from AR-15 50 years later
>>29511225
>special technique
>>29511225
>Face it, AK is obsolete
>AR shilling this hard
So is the wheel, right NSA?
Fucking bitch.
>>29511188
This. AK operating is awesome for lefties
>>29511229
I'm sorry but AK is ageold.
Everyone who has an ak 47/74/103/105 whatever they call it these days is at a severe disadvantage vs someone with a modern assault rilfe that optics bypods grips and who have charging handles in easily accessable places and don't have rock in magazines
>>29511112
Gibbz arms makes one. Its $250 and includes the charging handle. Uses a standard BCG
>>29511234
>>29511188
don't you get brass in your face?
>>29511244
No? It's not a bullpup.
>>29511234
>>29511188
So it's good for a small % of operators
It's like saying making fords lack driver seats and when anyone complains "yeah but they're great for people in wheelchairs"
>>29511112
Get a larue risr
Reciprocating riser
Its on sale now too
http://www.larue.com/larue-tactical-risr-reciprocating-inline-stock-riser
>>29511239
All of that aftermarket shit that good Goy faggots drop on their AR Jam-o-matics can be added to an AK.
>muh charging handle isn't ambi
>I'm too fucking stupid to use an AK
You're literally dumber than some nigger kid in Africa that rapes and kills for water.
>>29511256
Nah, that's like saying it's good for ME and that's all I give a shit about.
>>29511259
>>29511259
that's funny you say that cause they're the ones they were made for.
Besides you calling AR's jamomatics and comparing these twos modularity says a lot.
>>29511260
I'm glad you enjoy it. Doesn't mean it as comfortable for everyone.
>>29511275
Thank you captain obvious.
>>29511269
I believe AK's are as obsolete and inferior to modern guns as much as the next guy but cherrypicking proves nothing
>>29511283
Shitposting, not cherry picking
The "standard" H&K and the AR T-handle are by far the two worst. Everything else is just a matter of practice.
>>29511269
Don't ARs throws their insides at the shooters when they fail catastrophically?
>>29511354
>AK throws parts harmlessly away from the shooter, even towards the enemy in a final blaze of glory during catastrophic failure.
>AR attempts to kill/injure the shooter in a fit of misdirected rage in its final moments.
AK-1
AR-0
>>29511000
The g36 ambi handle
>>29511424
>ARs do not have catastrophic failures due to proper machining techniques and proper ammunition QC.
AR-1
AK-1
Tied up. Your move senpai.
This one op
>>29511269
Hey, it didn't jam though
>>29511552
i haven't seen an ar like that
>>29511574
It's a shame they're replacing them with Scar-*...
>>29511000
MP5/HK style is the best.
My favorite rifle for charging handle though is my Adcor BEAR.
P90
>>29511000
I like the AK style charging handle but I'm sure there's a reason why people like the "forward-left HK style" charging handle
>>29511000
AR-15 with a Raptor is the best
>>29511610
That's a big p90.
I always wondered if it would be viable to mount melee weapons on those front rails.
Like you dismantle a machete do you only have the blade and match the holes where the rails are screwed in. It could work because p90 can be partially operated with one hand.
>>29511112
And for what purpose would you ever want a cheek piece or riser on a collapsible stocked AR? Your cantilever mounts are between 1.50" and 1.59" tall, which still allows every not horribly disfigured person to still get a cheek weld while still having the objective bell of the biggest scope made (35mm tube with 56mm objective) to clear the handguard with room to spare.
>>29511000
Pic related is a good spot.
> reciprocating charging handle cucks need not apply
>>29511870
>forgot picture
Upper made by Gibbz arms
>>29511239
>implying you cant put any of that shit on an AK
>>29511283
and by modern guns you mean guns like...
>>29511886
Is that a penis pattern?
Egronomically? The MP5.
>>29511269
>AK reliability
>Not AK converts to islam
>>29511679
I'm trying to get a "consistent" cheek weld.
>>29511144
I'm also a lefty that's one of the main reasons the AK family is one of my favorite families of guns
>>29511112
My prs disagrees
>>29512952
Sorry, you said collapsed. My bad.
>>29511000
Anything on the left or right. The AR's charging handle is the worst I've ever used. I hate everything about this fucking rifle (except the way it looks) so much, but its mine.
>>29511144
>>29511161
>>29511225
>>29511256
ITT: ARtards who have never used an ak
>>29511870
what's wrong with having the charging handle on the bolt? dust would get through the lining on the left side either way wouldn't it?
how hard is it to put a charging handle on a bolt?
>>29511225
using your line of reasoning,explain why the AK12 was rejected.
>>29514974
sure it has been?
>it was announced in December 2014 that it had passed state tests and now is being evaluated by Russian Army
>>29511244
I shoot all my guns ambi and have yet to be hit by a single piece of brass. IMO the "don't shoot lefty or you'll eat brass" thing is just a silly meme to sell people on ambi/left hand models.
>>29511015
correct answer.
>>29511015
>>29515977
>not knowing how to properly charge your ak with your left hand.
>>29511269
>implying you can't KB any firearm with bad ammo
>>29511555
/thread
>>29511354
nah
I saw a double charge blow up an AR, lower was perfectly fine as the upper blew forward and down
>>29511610
My vote also goes to the p90.
It's right where you want it to be, nive and clise, but out of the way. Non-reciprocating.
Say what you want about 5.7, but the p90 is one of the best small arms designs of the past 30 years.
im an Ar faggot, but theres no way id say the AR has the best CH location.
>>29514547
My thought is that in situations where you may not have the best grip on your gun, you run the risk of your hands getting hurt / interfering with the function of the gun
>>29511000
For right handed users. For lefties, vice versa.
>right side
PROS: Good to march with (doesn't dig into your back if rifle is slung on your back), doesn't snag on gear, if reciprocating less likely to get in the way and cause a jam, upsets American manchildren.
CONS: reloads are marginally slower and takes a little more to get used to with modern manual of arms.
>left side
PROS: Easier to get accustomed to with modern manual of arms. If reciprocating you can see if the gun jammed most easily.
CONS: Extra debris ingress point exists if your gun also doesn't simultaneously eject left. Can get caught on gear and accidentally actuate or while shooting get snagged if it is reciprocating. Will poke you in the back if you sling it over your back while marching. Can reload marginally faster.
>>29511269
>AK-I mean oops fucking Century Arms reliability.webm
>>29516544
yeah, I think you may be on to something.
CA, romanian made, etc...
>>29516681
that was one of the kit builds Century made from Bulgy parts. frequently with bad headspacing and incorrectly drilled gas ports
They're a mess, but seem popular amongst poorfags around here
G36 has best charging handle.
>>29516793
>seem popular amongst poorfags around here
maybe among noguns clueless poorfags, but that's it...
This is why we need flags on /k/
>>29516184
It is almost too small if you have large hands. I don't so it is perfect for me.
