Which pistol would /k/ recommend for someone who's never owned a firearm?
>>29504266
for what purpose?
target practice?
self defense?
concealed carry?
do you prefer semi autos or revolvers?
hhnnngggg
so many good faps to that~
some sort of Glock, idk read the sticky wiki
Probably a glock 19
>common inexpensive ammo
>simple yet rugged
>easy to operate
>can be cc'd comfortably
>light recoil impulse
>good aftermarket selection
>>29504284
Defense.
>>29504266
>first gun
Ruger 10/22
>pistol
No. Pistols are third or fourth guns.
>>29504266
I'm not a Glock type of guy, but a Glock-19 will serve you well for a defense gun.
I wouldn't recommend a pistol for home defense, at all, for many reasons which I'm sure many people here will tell. But the Glock should be good for carry. I'd carry one.
>>29504266
Glock 17 or 19 depending on the purpose
>>29504613
>>29505724
>what gun should someone with no experience with safe firearms handling get?
>>go buy the gun that's the most notorious in the world for people having NDs with!
eat shit
>>29505751
>having a ND
>>29505798
>being new to guns
Probably like an M&P Shield or something, though if price is an issue, there's always mak-daddy Makarov.
>>29504304
do you have source on it?
>>29504613
seconding glock 19. Don't listen to the 'no safety' idiots. If your finger isn't on the trigger, it won't shoot
>>29505751
Either a very poor troll or someone who hasn't updated their firearms knowledge in ten years.
>>29505804
Nothing about my comment changes, being new to guns is not an excuse.
Also give me a citation on Glocks being worse for ND. You can ND with any fucking gun.
>>29504266
Anybody know the source to that? Preferably not in moon speak?
>>29504266
What's your budget?
>>29505697
Do you think you'd ever conceal carry it, or is this strictly a home defense gun?
>>29505832
>Nothing about my comment changes, being new to guns is not an excuse.
Yea, go ahead and keep recommending a gun notorious for NDs to someone with no firearms experience.
And I guess if they make a mistake handling it, they should just go fuck themselves, right?
>Also give me a citation on Glocks being worse for ND. You can ND with any fucking gun.
I said most notorious, retard.
>>29505831
>implying anything about this has changed in 10 years
>being a Glock shill
>>29504266
If it's for home defense, you might want to look into getting an Obrez.
>>29504266
Rhogun, recommended for new shooters and women.
>>29505823
>>29505844
http://nhentai.net/g/124717/
>>29505876
You can ND with any firearm.
Keep your fat fucking booger hook off the trigger and you will never have a problem you autist.
>>29505876
Ok yeah just a very poor (albeit enthusiastic) troll.
>>29505902
Thanks senpai, still in moonspeak but I assume it isn't translated so its fine.
>>29505905
>You can ND with any firearm.
That doesn't mean they're all equally as easy to ND with
>Keep your fat fucking booger hook off the trigger and you will never have a problem you autist.
Do you want me to start dumping examples of people whose Glocks went off without them ever putting their finger on the trigger?
Or is your Google working?
>>29505907
>lol ur just trolling!
>anyone who has a different opinion than me is a liar!
:^]
>>29505938
>Do you want me to start dumping examples of people whose Glocks went off without them ever putting their finger on the trigger?
Yes.
The gun has 3 internal safeties that specifically prevent this. The only way to make it fire is to pull the trigger.
>>29505932
part 1 is translated on exhentai the artist has an obsession with stank apparently
link to the currently translated works
http://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=1&f_manga=1&f_artistcg=0&f_gamecg=0&f_western=0&f_non-h=0&f_imageset=0&f_cosplay=0&f_asianporn=0&f_misc=0&f_search=tsurui+eng&f_apply=Apply+Filter
>>29505949
http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firearms/safety-warning-worn-leather-holsters-can-cause-accidental-discharges/
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/03/robert-farago/windbreaker-drawstring-triggers-glock-negligent-discharge/
>>29506008
>depress trigger
>gun fires
wow. very surprising.
Both cases happened because they used leather holsters and the leather got soft. Get a kydex holster and you will never have this problem.
>>29505697
Revolver. Simple, reliable, easy to learn how to use. Even a cheap Armscor won't go wrong.
>>29506077
>wow. very surprising.
The point is that they followed what you said
>>Keep your fat fucking booger hook off the trigger and you will never have a problem you autist.
and still ND'd, which you said couldn't happen
>Both cases happened because they used leather holsters and the leather got soft. Get a kydex holster and you will never have this problem.
Uh, no.
The second one had nothing to do with a leather holster.
>>29506115
>and still ND'd, which you said couldn't happen
It could have happened to a pistol with a safety turned off too. It's literally interfering gear that is to blame.
>The second one had nothing to do with a leather holster.
Uhh, yes.
The soft leather allowed the plastic and nylon strap from the jacket to be in the holster at the same time as the gun. Kydex would have prevented this.
Also he didn't clear the holster before inserting the gun, something you should do regardless of the firearm or holster you are using.
>>29506154
>It could have happened to a pistol with a safety turned off too. It's literally interfering gear that is to blame.
But not one with the safety on.
Interesting, huh?
>Uhh, yes.
No try again.
>>29506174
>But not one with the safety on.
It's still a piece of shit holster that should be thrown away and replaced regardless of weather or not you have a safety. All it takes is one slip up and holstering your gun without turning the safety on to achieve the same result.
>No try again.
Try using your big boy words and string the together to form an argument.
>>29505996
Your the best anon.
>>29506202
>It's still a piece of shit holster that should be thrown away and replaced regardless of weather or not you have a safety. All it takes is one slip up and holstering your gun without turning the safety on to achieve the same result.
The second one had nothing to do with the holster.
You keep shifting away from your original point that all you need to do is keep your finger off the trigger.
Now you're admitting that there are many more safety issues that need to be addressed.
>Try using your big boy words and string the together to form an argument.
That's on you.
You're claiming it was the holster's fault.
Prove it.
>>29506220
>Now you're admitting that there are many more safety issues that need to be addressed.
Millions of people use glocks daily and lots of new people manage to not shoot themselves with them. Weird, huh? It's almost like the situation your referring to is statistically irrelevant, or something.
Use a kydex holster and learn to holster properly and it's a non-issue. Dangerous things are dangerous big fucking surprise there, treat them with respect.
>You're claiming it was the holster's fault.
>Prove it.
Go back a reread my post as many times as you need friend.
>>29504266
Any .38 or .22 revolver.
>>29506115
had an old tokarev that i smacked the mag in and it dropped the hammer on a cartridge, was shooting at a range so nothing was damaged, but still terrorfying
>>29506311
>Millions of people use glocks daily and lots of new people manage to not shoot themselves with them. Weird, huh? It's almost like the situation your referring to is statistically irrelevant, or something.
"glock accidental discharge": 37,000 result
"glock negligent discharge": 30.700 results
>It's almost like the situation your referring to is statistically irrelevant, or something.
>>spends multiple posts going over various extra safety procedures you have to check, after claiming all you need to do is keep your finger off the trigger
Have you admitted you were wrong about that by the way?
Because every post you've made since then contradicts it.
>>29506354
Woah, so the amount of pages google search results are a indicator of unsafe firearm design now? Let's see right hurr what I dig up.
>hk negligent discharge
About 567,000 results
>sig negligent discharge
About 183,000 results
>1911 negligent discharge
About 22,200 results
ND can happen with any firearm, fucking period. Learn to handle a gun. Holstering and unholstering are just as important to practice as shoot the gun itself.
>>29504266
Something like an FNS9 or ruger 9e.
Definitely not a glock though many will say that. It's relatively more expensive than other options like (or better than) it, and it doesn't have a safety so holstering and picking it up off a surface become an issue. You also don't want to spend much, see if you're going to get into shooting first. A $1,000 Sig is probably going to make you kick yourself when you realize it just sits in your safe (I would also recommend getting a small handgun safe and affixing it to something)
If you want a carry gun the ruger lc9s or s&w shield (I'm too lazy to give more than 2 recommendations)
>>29506452
>search sig and hk negligent discharge
>half the results are glock related
kek
>ND can happen with any firearm, fucking period.
Way to pretend I said otherwise, so you can claim this position as your own.
Really clever, I'm sure you've fooled us all.
>Learn to handle a gun.
Maybe OP should do that with a gun that's easier to learn with?
>Holstering and unholstering are just as important to practice as shoot the gun itself.
>>Keep your fat fucking booger hook off the trigger and you will never have a problem you autist.
???
>>29506521
>half the results are glock related
>half
Are we using the same search engine? Most sig results I see pertain to sigs.
>Really clever, I'm sure you've fooled us all.
The point you made is that glocks are accident prone. They are only accident prone to absent minded people but that's true of any firearm, clear the holster (like you should do every time with ANY firearm) and you will not have a issue like the two specific cases you provided.
Instructors specifically train people to clear a holster before holstering with any firearm, it comes with the territory. Just like keeping your finger off the trigger comes with regular gun handling.
>Maybe OP should do that with a gun that's easier to learn with?
Literally cannot get any easier. If there is a reason OP should not get a glock it's because of there shooting characteristics. A large revolver or .22lr revolver would be better so he does not develop a flinch due to shooting a lightweight handgun.
>???
Yes? Is there a statement in there?
>>29506696
>Holstering and unholstering are just as important to practice as shoot the gun itself.
>>Keep your fat fucking booger hook off the trigger and you will never have a problem you autist.
???
>>29506709
Yes.
Are you trying to make a statement or what? Remember what I said about using your big boy words?
>>29504266
Ruger 96/22. Lets you work on fundamentals one cheap shot at a time.
or Tanfoglio Hunter, so you can play Robocop and shoot holes through tectonic plates.
>>29506736
>Holstering and unholstering are just as important to practice as shoot the gun itself.
>>Keep your fat fucking booger hook off the trigger and you will never have a problem you autist.
???
>>29505876
I agree with you.
>>29504266
Hi point
>>29506763
>IDF life in a nutshell
Why the fuck are we giving billions of dollars in monetary aid to these joo fucks again???
>>29506750
I don't have time to play shoot the shit with the autist. I'm out.
>>29506794
Idk, galils maybe? Probably not.
