what would you do?
>>29500997
I cant hear anything wheres the audio
here is it
>>29501005
What a fucking man.
Honor is rare nowadays and I have the utmost respect for this man.
he died so this world could be a better place with a few less jihadist scum
>>29500997
I would have done the same.
If I knew Id be tortured and paraded around I would have gladly died in a blaze of glory.
Being dead and destroying the enemy is preferrable to being locked in a cage in an orange jumpsuit and burned alive.
Obviously its easy for me to say that now but I think he was absolutely justified and that hopefully his son will grow up knowing his dad was a fucking hero
>>29501005
Yeah...... nah. That was either Russian propaganda or one loquacious motherfucker for a guy fighting for his life.
>Alone with no fireteam
>Get surrounded because he's off on his own like a retard
>Get hailed as a hero for incompetence
>>29501005
What >>29501032 said.
>>29501067
>implying you have the balls to call an airstrike on your own position
You talk big internet man.
Im sure you would have surrendered and pleaded for your life like the spineless fat cunt you are.
>>29501054
Evidence for it being russian propaganda?
>>29501005
Seems kinda fake. Though I have no doubt the man was honorable.
>>29501054
Think about it.
ISIS loves to torture the shit out of anyone that goes against them, and holy shit would they love to get their hands on a Russian / American soldier.
Either you order an airstrike on your position, and die a quick death,
or,
You're captured, tortured for days and then executed in some fucked up fashion, while being filmed.
I'd rather not have some sand-nigger piece of shit tearing my molars out while I wish for death.
Honestly, getting blown the fuck up was the best way to go, for that poor soul.
When all is said and done, he died taking a fair number of bastards with him.
>>29501086
So much projection there.
>>29501112
>projection
see >>29501067
Putting down a man who did something heroic tells me a lot about your character
Are you trying to make yourself feel better for doing nothing?
>>29501102
Yeah, calling in an air strike on his own position isn't what I question. It's the fucking speech he made.
People who are about to die generally don't do that. They may say goodbye to their families, but they don't go on about patriotism or honoring the uniform. That is some retard-level propaganda.
>>29501093
> mfw I see what you did there
>>29501005
>propaganda
Sometimes real life really does happen like a movie.
But my cynical side says at least part of this was embellished upon, if not wholly fabricated.
We'll never know for sure, because we weren't there.
>>29501151
Real life is more fantastic than any action movie could ever be.
I believe this story and will believe it until evidence comes to light of otherwise.
as much as I would like to believe, his speech at the tail end of the transcript stinks of memery
>wife is pregnant
>no choice but to airstrike self
>>29500997
respect but wouldn't be surprised if he fucked up the coordinates and got blue on blued and glorious ministry of truth and russian values turned it into self-sacrifice.
>>29501194
>wife is pregnant
>die in a blaze of glory doing a service to my country with an instant painless death
>have my pregnant wife watch me get tortured to death, have my kids grow up to know their father surrendered and died on his knees instead of on his feet
Sounds about right, you'd want to give some sort of speech before you die.
You aren't just going to say
>bomb me lol
>>29501330
Are you testing me?
I'm sure we can trust the Russians to be truthful about these kinds of things.
>>29501254
>have blue no blue accident
>story blown out of the proportions
>give few more weeks and he will be a orthodox jesus who died for all slav sins
>>29501351
What are you implicating shlyuhka
>>29500997
>get gotted by friendly fire
>be made a hero
>>29501254
you are going to die in bed just like any other faggot and once you turn 20 you'll realize how retarded this viking warrior manly man shit is
>>29500997
Well, what would you do if you accidentally one of your own FOs?
>>29501370
But I am 20.
What are you even talking about. Nothing wrong with calling a man who died for his country a hero.
>>29501390
well if it was not extremely secretive bs
command would report blue on blue to the public, explain situation
start the investigation, implement changes or/and punish ones responsible for accident
>>29500997
>>29501005
It's obviously propaganda.
>loner operator operating alone behind enemy lines
>he takes his time to give a speech about honor and his country while fighting
>Russia can't even produce the audio recording that the transcript would be from
Anyone who honestly believes this shit should be banned for being under 18.
I don't doubt the event was true but the "transcript" is a complete forgery.
>>29500997
Pure propaganda.
>>29501431
>>29501430
Where is your evidence of this being faked.
Is it just a "hunch"
If so then keep it to yourself
>>29501430
It's not propaganda. It's just some bullshit from Facebook.
>>29501005
no.. not at all true.
>spetnaz
>freaking out
no.. when i was deployed to iraq we had seals and sas guys with no plate on just running around shooting shit for the fun of it, they really are crazy dudes.
i highly doubt it's real though.
>>29501370
If you get captured by ISIS its not IF you are going to die but HOW.
If you are lucky they might just shoot you on the spot.
But this guy was SF. They knew that he had important intel. He would have been tortured like a motherfucker and he knew it. Then after they had gotten every last bit of intel they could out of him they would have tortured him in a way that would make house bolton look like a 5 star hotel. after breaking his spirit then they would have filmed him being set on fire, head slowly cut off with a dull rusty hack saw or something else that the "religion of peace" could think up to show the world how peaceful they are.
Fighting ISIS is like fighting in the zombi apoc... you save your last bullet for yourself.
>>29501438
>Where is your evidence of this being faked.
Because there's no source.
>If so then keep it to yourself
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you know where you are?
>>29501005
kek
>>29501438
>Third hand Facebook screenshot transliterated from a VK post
>WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS FAKE SHUT UP
>>29500997
About the same. Tell them to bomb the fuck out of everything around me and know that I am awaited in Valhalla!
>>29501135
I agree with this anon.
Story is believable, something similar happened in Vietnam.
But he didn't say that.
>>29501005
I got a feeling it was pretty close to this minus the speech and throw in a few cykas and bylats
>>29501438
>Where is your evidence of this being faked.
Because anyone can type up a fake transcript. Without an actual source, ie the audio recording that the transcript was from, you have no evidence that this actually happened.
>inb4 Russia finally produces an audio recording that features background sounds from Call of Duty or other ridiculousness, just like the satellite picture "evidence" of Ukraine shooting down MH17
this isn't how you call in an airstrike, i dont give a fuck if your SF or not. you still have to follow SOPs.
It would be
'This is "callsign" requesting immediate run on *break* 694202 how copy?"
"This is "callsign" requesting confirmation of grid
'694202' is this afirm"
"Yes, out'
someshit like that, i was always with our RTO and could hear the dude yelling at command all the time
>>29501543
That wouldnt much matter in extenuating circumstances such as this you invalid
>>29501543
Russia likely has different procedures than NATO.
>>29501439
>It's not propaganda. It's just some bullshit from Facebook.
>Implying those are mutually exclusive things.
What is cognitive shaping and captology.
>>29501581
it would be
'This is spetnaz warrior #304905432 and im looking to kill myself to get attention, cyka blat'
'this is command big dick charle, we got a hostile nigga in yo immediate shit how copy fool
'its ya boy again bomb my ass, out'
>>29501601
What is paranoid retards thinking people lying on the internet is state-sponsored propaganda?
>>29501134
You seem upset
>>29500997
He looks like James Franco's brother lol
>>29501164
this story is as true as Russian official Ukraine story on their army not being in . which means it's not true at all and anyone believing this with no evidence is a Russian pickle Shill
>>29501700
Remember there are people on /k/ who honestly believe that Russia has no troops fighting in Ukraine.
>>29501631
And then it would be recorded an put on YouTube under the title "American soldier blows up himself and Quran" with a rap thug instramental intro
>>29501005
If russia says A you can be almost 100% sure it's any letter or number but A.
When Russia declares the "truth", think of it as russia saying "this did not happen".
whats the opposite of a vatnik
>>29501780
A journalist who continues to report despite knowing that Putins hit squads are coming.
As a Canadian I have nothing against the Russians but for some reason I just get a feeling this isn't the real story.
>>29501773
"Russia" isn't saying this though.
A picture on the internet isn't a declaration by an entire country.
Does it really matter? Similar stuff happened in other wars. The disgusting thing is how rus propaganda spins this
>>29501005
Yeah, this transcript is fake as fuck. The guy very well might have called in the airstrike on himself. It's happened multiple times throughout history. But this doesn't read like the real thing.
>>29501926
>disgusting
War heroes being used for propaganda and their stories spun or embellished is as old as the concept of propaganda.
>>29500997
monitor this:http://www.snopes.com/russian-soldiers-last-words/
I think the chances of this being untouched are slim to none, but who knows. Crazier shit has happened.
If you're russian and reading this, don't cry if we don't take your news outlets at their word. They have a really shitty track record.
>ur western media bias
>ur pro-american mindset
>not the coldwar lolz
yeah, no.
>>29500997
Mostly, yeah.
It sounds melodramatic as fuck because they're direct translating it from Russian and leaving out the curse words.
http://youtu.be/kNR7oOdIKh8
Take the radio at the beginning of the video where the Chechen asks the commander to pull his forces out as an example.
Comparing what is spoken to the written transcript makes it sound like clearly false melodramatic trash.
Many people don't understand this about the Russian language.
>people still think the direct translation applies to the spoken language in the same way
>so they think this act of heroism is false
I don't like this meme.
ON MY POSITION
>>29501438
To be fair, there is literally zero evidence of it being real either. I completely believe that someone would call in the airstrike on themselves in this situation, but I don't believe that this transcript is accurate.
>>29502152
this
>>29501631
>in yo immediate shit
>>29502067
>If you're russian and reading this, don't cry if we don't take your news outlets at their word.
What news outlet has this been on?
>>29500997
kinda want to bang the wife though.
>>29501945
>doesn't read like the real thing
It's a quirk of the language when you direct translate it.
It's like putting Nippon music through a translator.
See
>>29502152
For an example and a semi explanation.
>>29502067
I do not believe they didn't touch it somewhat. I can't imagine they didn't take out the curse words.
But I also know that a lot of slang and shorthand words in Russian don't translate well to English, as they don't exist in English. It sounds like very proper speaking when it's translated to English.
We don't have polite and impolite forms for the same word in the same way. Addressing rank and social status is inside of the word itself instead of a prefix like English. (I.e. No Doctor Ivan, mr Ivan etc in normal language)
>>29500997
Given the option of
A: get tortured and creatively executed (burning plus bulldozer, anyone remember?)
B: quick death by 250lbs of explosive while taking them with me
I would choose B every goddamn times who knows, if god is particularly kind and respects your moxie, that air strike might not kill you and leave you an opening to escape. But it's better than being slowly tortured and paraded.
Look at him in the pic, that dude is tired, hungry, and things arent looking good.
I want to habeeb.
ON MY POSITION
>>29501631
I laughed more than I should have.
>>29501543
Russia has different procedures than NATO.
He was only in the area to conduct airstrikes anyway. He would have direct contact to either the airbase commander or the pilots themselves (so they can set the auto bomb release, as they don't use jdams the same way).
Instead of call signs, the Russians differentiate on missions like these from the operative using the polite tense in sentences and the commanders using the impolite version. This allows the information like coordinates and enemy positions to be given faster and more numerous throughout the action.
They'll call for command and then just talk normally. Russian gives less information per syllable than English. A lot of it is buried in formality and other shit.
But it's only for operations like these. It would be ridiculous for any other missions to shorthand it. It only makes sense if they are not using laser designated munitions, which the Russians are not.
>>29501631
>cunt shit motherfucker cyka blyat command I'm pinned down
>who? Where?
>the only asshole in the area you faggot. Please advise. (Coordinates are just the exif data on a naked picture of the commanders daughter)
>I'm nearly out of ammo, have no trigger control, throwing the weapons at them now, pls bomb here cyka
>use the rocks
>no use bomb pls advise, tell my wife there are proofs
>>29501005
>return to the green line
>>29501032
It's also fake as fuck.
>>29501719
>Remember there are people on /k/ who honestly believe that Russia has no troops fighting in Ukraine.
The Ukraine civil war is a border conflict. Everyone knows that Russians are fighting in Ukraine, that is common in border conflicts.
The Russian government specifically denies that the Russian military is taking part or that the Russian government controls the rebel group. I find that believable, the rebels are too ineffective to be working with the Russian military and they ignore the agreements which Russia is trying to put in place.
>>29502388
I'd wager there are Russian specialists there to train the pro Russia faction, and maybe even see some combat at times
>>29502388
>The Russian government specifically denies that the Russian military is taking part or that the Russian government controls the rebel group. I find that believable
Christ we have a live one here. Sure, that Russian army major caught shipping weapons to Donetsk was just lost and on holiday at the time.
And those dead tank crewmen from that Russian tank unit totally died in completely unrelated circumstances in Russia on what happened to be the same day their tanks were destroyed in Ukraine.
And those captured Russian VDV were just having a picnic thirty kilometers inside Ukraine at the frontline where the ground was nicer to put the basket down.
And those Russian artillery pieces firing into Ukraine to support rebel forces during fighting in 2014 had simply been blown in the wrong direction by the wind.
>>29500997
yes
>>29501005
*orders airstrike*
>>29500997
I think the situation happened but the transcript is different.
>>29502337
No. I'm not going to the VA. Fuck Jamaica Plain.
>>29501054
>>29500997
This is one of those times where it feels like truth that has been embellished. I'm not disputing whether or not this guy called a strike on himself or that he was any less of a badass than the story suggests, but I think it's also equally likely that he was panicking at the last second and may have said some stuff that the Russian government would have liked to alter slightly. For one he seems more concerned with ISIS using his body and uniform as propaganda tools than with the torture he would probably experience if captured.
Again I have zero basis for thinking this isn't authentic, but it's one of those times where something feels off. Same with flight 93 on 9/11. Sure I believe that people, facing certain death, might revolt against the hijackers and kill themselves in an attempt to save others, but it seemed pretty strange that they unanimously decided it over the course of a few minute phone call, and that they all went "Let's roll!" before attacking like it was an action movie.
>>29502941
lol'd
also the captcha has me picking trains
>>29501067
I thought that he was the last of his squad/team, and not just jogging down ISIS street..
Not sure if that is true, or even if I read that or just assumed that was the case. If it is true, I find it highly unlikely that he was stag.
Assuming it is true, holy shit that guy is a hero. I would like to believe that I would do the same in that situation.. I would for sure take being vaporized by HE munitions than tortured/ dragged by those fucks or being the fucking star of my own decapitation video.
Christ... imagine the thoughts and emotion in the time between the last confirmation and impact. Fucking insane. Some true human shit right there.
Speaking of that time period, how long do you think it would be? Single-digit seconds, around a minute, 3 minutes? More? The suspense.. then relief. Damn.
Also, what type of strike? Air? Or Howitzer-style?
>Prokhorenko: command I am compromised, I repeat I am compromised.
>Command: Please say again and confirm.
>Prokhorenko: They have spotted me, there are shooting everywhere, I am pinned, requesting immediate extraction.
>Command: Extraction request acknowledged.
>Command: [orders the airstrike]
>>29503055
It fucking knows, dude.
>April 5, 2016; SkyNet became self aware.
>>29503087
>Turns out the Airstrike didn't kill him
>He now returns to russia to find the general responsible and kill Putin
THIS SUMMER...
>>29503087
I kek'd
>>29501067
>says the random guy on the internet with a pony wallpaper
>>29500997
He died a good death. RIP slav operator.
>>29500997
I don't doubt he called the airstrike in, but this transcript reads like it was written by a 1940's era commissar.
I think in reality there was a lot more cursing and demanding to do the airstrike compared to the what's being depicted in a carefully worded Red Orchestra for Joseph Stalin.
>>29501438
Where is your evidence that it's real?
>>29502333
Diminishing returns.
His was better>>29501631
1/10 effect, 13/10 effort
>>29501450
>make house bolton look like a 5 star hotel
>"religion of peace"
>zombi apoc
Back to le reddit
>>29501003
It took a few days for Kreml to come up with the script, they need few more weeks to finnish recording the audio.
>>29501032
>pressed f interally
Spent an hour making it
>>29501631
>'its ya boy again bomb my ass, out'
kek'd, thanks anon
>>29500997
Fake and gay.
>>29500997
t. Russian Pat Tilman
>>29503881
pretty good desu, anon
>>29503881
sure reddit
>>29501005
Since when does a man who is pined down and surrounded by advancing enemies which are so tactically deployed as to prevent any possible retreat have time to make a speech. Sure call a strike on his own position, but to make a speech, one would think that he would be busy shooting at the enemy.
>>29501032
How do you know that he killed any ISIS. For all we know he could have been pined down by ISIS fighters firing from 100+ meters behind cover and the only guy the bomb killed was him
>>29500997
I don't fan boy other nations' militaries ever because most of their heroics are propaganda. But I must admit, this took some big balls.
Of course, it is nothing new for Americans. We've been doing shit like that since WWII. Hell, even LTC Hal Moore did it during Vietnam. It became common enough that they came up with a code word for it - Broken Arrow.
Not to steal the thunder away from him but it is good to see other troops from foreign lands finally being brave like the U.S.
>>29501005
I teared up reading this. Jesus what an honorable human being.
>>29504596
I'm always amazed how many women hang out on /k/.
