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How would this guy fare as a modern commander?
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How would this guy fare as a modern commander?
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He wouldn't.

Modern warfare is a game of technological superiority, proxy wars and harassment tactics.

Back in the day, wars were won with strategy.
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>>29478320
If you gave him around a year of training and updating him on modern technology and concepts, probably just fine he was intelligent and bold enough.

Just throw him in command right before a major battle he'd probably suck.

>what are theeez flyoon contraptioons in zee sky???
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>>29478340
>game of technological superiority, proxy wars and harassment tactics.
So essentially how Clausewitz depicted it in 1820s
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>>29478320
He would go into business. Since war is so restricted these days.
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>>29478591
>Since war is so restricted these days

Right, so restricted. The US is fighting two or three open wars constantly, another two or three proxy wars, and who knows how much clandestine shit.
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>>29478604
Bullshit skirmishes with no clear objectives.
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His affinity for artillery would transfer over to the air. He'd also probably be Russian. Cause they got a lot of MLRS.
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>>29478631

>thinking the greatest European ever would be a Russian
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>>29478340
Yeah modern warfare 2 and 3 suck in comparison.
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What is the OP painting called?
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>>29478618
hurr durr it's not a real war unless there are massive set piece battles hurr durr
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>>29478649
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>Clauswitz, von Manstein, von Roon, von Moltke the Elder aren't better commanders or more European
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>>29478320
Napoleon's great strength was that he studied and learned from the real world. If given the opportunity to do so in the modern context, he would be excellent. His strategies as he developed them were revolutionary for their time but simply applying them holus bolus into some hell-hole in the middle east would not end well. The brilliance of Napoleon was that he would never in a million years do that.
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>>29478320
>Napoopan returns
>His very presence rekindles the fire in Gallic Blood
>Reflecting on past mistakes, decides to go after Africa and the Mid East instead of Europe
>Unites Africa and the Mid East under the French flag again
>Bends Islam to his will like he did the Pope
>Reaffirms European Nationalism
>Wrecks Russia and Germany for old time sakes
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>>29478320
He'd probably do very well. He'd love how powerful artillery has become. Honestly speaking, the Russian way of war would probably appeal to him. Concentrated artillery precedes the shock of an armored push.
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>>29478320

He would be a better politician.
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>>29478320

Artillery and Missile Spam. Hordes of conscripts/tanks in columns.
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>>29478320
>>29478340
considering he pretty much single-handedly reinvented the military tactics of his time, came up with concept of medals, thus also reinventing manipulation of soldier morale and motivation and used technological inventions available to him at the time in new strategic ways far superior to his adversaries...
yeah, he would do very well, he would probably figure out a way to use the tech we have today in new destructive strategic ways, new military uses for non-military tech, new ways to exploit enemy weaknesses, come up with a way to fight asymmetrical warfare, non-state actors and so on. he'd conquer half the world just as he did before, maybe all of it if he had his full experience to rely upon, so he would not make the same mistakes
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"This boy would make an excellent sailor."
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>>29479471
You faggots are greatly overestimating what one man is capable of. He grew up in time where being smart wasn't all that common. There were also leaders and generals before him with just as much affinity for war.

There really isn't all that different between him and the generals of today. He might be smart and intuitive but there are more people like that no than there ever have been. If a war of the size you're talking about took place today there is no man now or fucking ever that would be able to do the impossible shit you fags are talking about in this thread.

not to mention we are in the age of information. Politics play a much greater role in warfare than it ever has. You drop a bomb on a school on accident and that shit gets spread around the world non stop for a week. Or if he had an affair with a reporter he loses his rank and everything he has tried to accomplish. This is not the same world he came from.

Come back to reality now.
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>>29478340
>>29479594
This.
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>>29479594
Most reasonable post I've ever seen on /k/
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>>29478670
underrated
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>Line infantry combat with 21st century equipment
>Two armies line up facing each other and proceed to wipe out each other in seconds with volley of automatic fire
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>>29479594

tips fedora at m'sir
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>>29479389

I would totally think about doing that.

Imagine the look on the face the captain of a Burke would have when he was ordered to use chain shot to break the masts of enemy ships.

Priceless.
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>>29480884
>howitzer shot in the middle of a line infantry section
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>>29481087
>Survivors are crushed and wiped out by IFV 'cavalry charge' right into their ranks
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>>29481103
Even if it is an easy win your soldiers are probably scarred from the massacre
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>>29478320

He would be dead

>is enemy
>surrenders/converts/captured/btfo
>tortured to death in guantanamo
>is dead
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>>29479594
This. You read two books about him and learn that he just broke the mold of a European command system that still relied on certain families running certain regiments and added his own competency to a remarkable movement of meritocratic policy changes and came out on top of a coup.
He isn't god and would be a single notable commander among dozens if he lived 50 years later.
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>>29481550
Give the man some credit, anon, all those commanders in 50 years that you spoke of learnt from him or from his example.

If Napoleon hadn't existed, nor his military innovations, military theory may not have reached its level of sophistication around the Franco-Prussian war.
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>>29478320
Probably ok. I mean, Bruce Campbell has played enough badasses for some of it to rub off, right?
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>>29479299
>clausewitz
>better commander than bonaparte
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>>29479594
>He grew up in time where being smart wasn't all that common.
You're confusing intelligence and knowledge again, anon. A degree means you're educated (hopefully) not smart, so to speak.
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>>29479471
>come up with a way to fight asymmetrical warfare
I don't know, he didn't manage it so well in the Peninsular War.
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>>29478320
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>>29478341
>>29478341
>Ze plane! Ze plane!
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>>29478711
Efb.jpg
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>>29479299
>von
>von
>von
Let me guess, you think prussians were good at war?
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>>29479299
Okay that shit is making my heart race WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
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>>29478340
>>29480782
>muh technological superiority
So why you lose in Vietnam? Why Germany can't conquer Poland without help of Russia?
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>>29479471
he did consult allot with scientists and had a library of physics books
mostly trigonometry and orbital models
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>>29487342
Because the goal wasn't to genocide all their people and put your own people in their place.
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>>29483616
What is that picture from?
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>>29487475
found it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9cy_(comics)
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>>29478320
from what I understand his success was partially due to the disunity of the forces opposing him, and the imperialist tendency to give important millitary roles to influential players with connections
generals back them were really the diplomats, and their prestige was relied apon to get good political outcomes relating to the military

napoleon really had a lot going for him though, he wrote his own book on warfare in a time when war was more habit than craft

his understanding of practical issues affecting troop morale, his flexible use of fortifications esp. light fortifications I think really pushed the infantry into diggers, his willingness to enlist forces outside the national political spectrum, he also understood the importance of cavalry, and the applications of artillery, he also pushed towards total war

how would he do today? struggle i think
I feel like he would really dig the humvee and high mobility light infantry
but he would strugle with the sheer force multiplication of the automatic rifle,
he would have to abandon infantry formations entirely, and they were half of warfare back then
and he might get caught trying to envelop a force thinking scattered meant weak coming from an age where gunfire was only reliable en-masse
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>>29481103
>IFV 'cavalry charge'
>tfw imagining MBTs in triangle formation ramming each other and firing their cannons point blank
>depleted uranium tipped ramming spikes that are rocket assisted
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>>29479594
This.

Napoleon was a officer of low rank but who rose up through the ranks by merit in the revolutionary army which was almost unheard of anywhere else in the western world ruled by the european aristocracy. Today this is considered the western or even the global standard.
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>>29479594
>You faggots are greatly overestimating what one man is capable of

Gilgamesh would like a word with you.
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>>29487342
>winning when almost the entire nation is against when genocide or conquering isn't the goal
>He doesn't know how high NVA morale was
For fucks sake the guy leading the north was practically George Washington to those people. It wasn't going to be won unless all of vietnam was killed.
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