G'day flubba wubbah jubbah noongar cunts.
You have a good weekend?
Post
>New acquisitions
>Things you are waiting to get licensed
>Huntan
>NFA and state firearm acts review speculation
For those that don't know, Insight on SBS will be covering guns as the topic. Expect a shitshow with old eyebrows himself, David Shoebridge and some Port Arthur victims on the panel. Airs 8:30pm on Tuesday.
If any lurking no-guns need help understanding how to get a license, ask away and we'll help anyway we can.
>>29471840
Nobody gives a shit about fucking SBS cunt
I feel for our Aussie friends. If there is one country on Earth where firearms & weapons ownership and training should be paramount it is Australia. It's like every living thing on the continent lives by the motto: "Fuck off; we're full."
Oh and something that any faggots from WA should be made aware of if you're not already. Licensing is changing over to a new system coming into affect on the 29th of April, the switchover starts on the 18th and no licenses will be processed until the 29th. Get your additional applications in as soon as possible, I myself will be putting in a application for a 28" Synthetic Adler tommorrow.
>>29471840
>Insight on SBS will be covering guns as the topic.
Yeah, I'll watch it, but expect to be angry when overly emotional, no facts fuckheads in the audience start crying about how we're all baby killers on a power trip
>>29472069
>>29472069
what is the new system i'm no funs here will there be a big differences and if guns look black and scary is still banned right?
>>29471840
Anyone rocking any revolvers in ausland?
You guys like .17, 300blkout, 45gap, 6.5 at all?
>>29472126
Reg 26B doesn't look like it's going anywhere, but there isn't much currently known about the changes. here is what Roy Alexanders posted
>All Licences Will Have A '0' In Front Of Their Current Licence Number, Going From 7 Digits To 8.
>The Renewal Notice & Licence Will Be Split Into 2 Documents ??
>The Firearm ID Card Will Change From White To A Clear Core Card.
>Renewal Payments Will No Longer Be Accepted At Dept Of Transport Offices Or Agencies.
*>Payment Can Be Made Via Australia Post, Online By B-Point Or By Mailed Cheque To LIcencing Services.
>A Photo Will Be Obtained When Submitting An Original Licence Application.
>>29472140
In regards to revolvers and other handguns it's restricted to either Security transport or club use only.
.17HMR is popular, but not many people use .17 Rem, .17 hornet or .17WSM.
I don't hear much about people using .300 AAC or .45 GAP.
6.5x55 SE is quite popular in Ausland due to an influx of cheap M96 Swedish Mausers a while back. Nobody can seem to get any 6.5 Creedmoor in stock.
>>29472140
I've got a 90's era S&W 686 in .357 with 4 inch barrel (which is actually one of my favourite things) brother in law has a Model 10 in .38 Special that's probably around WW2/Post war vintage that he picked up from the gun club for fuck all. Actually a really nice gun too considering its as old as the hills.
Aside from that most of our pistols are semi-auto modern shit.
Those calibres are available here, don't think there's been a huge up-take on them though. I looked at the .300 and decided there really wasn't any advantage over it compared to the 7.62's I already had and have been using.
Somewhere I'm fairly sure there's .17 Rem buried in the fudd-guns section of the family that was used for killing foxes, probably dig deep enough there's also a .220 swift as well which was much the same kind of light-speed velocity madness.
>>29472258
>>29472258
if you live south of river
what is the best gunstore to head to for help/advice and guns in general
Are there any liberals who are pro gun on any level?
>>29472396
Beatons and ABCYL has some decent gunsmiths on hand if you're looking for more technical help.
If you want help with Milsurp Barry Snr from Barrys firearms in Maddington is generally quite knowledgeable and has an awesome collection on display.
Midland gunmart got some self awareness and has improved, but it's still mostly a ammo stop. The staff are still decently knowledgeable.
But if you're a nofuns looking to get started, I'd say go with Barrys. They'll talk you through the process and administer the Firearm awareness assessment (required for an Original license).
If you don't mind a drive also consider Claremont firearms, don't let the name fool you because It's actually in Bibra lake.
>>29472517
>>29472517
Last question whee would you go to do the shoot
>>29472670
Since WA doesn't have Crown land hunting unless you have some close relatives or family friends in the country it's near impossible to hunt. However there are some properties you can pay to use or you could try to get into the Farmer assist program.
If it's just target or clay shooting you want to do you're in luck, there are plenty of sport shooting clubs in WA and they're more than happy at the prospect of new members. Ring around and measure your options
>>29472517
Barrys isn't in maddington anymore, hasn't been for years.
>>29472730
Shit, I mixed it up with Beatons. Sorry
Correction: Barrys firearms is in Beckenham
>>29471840
Chuck her in the 'ute.
Current guns
Coming soon: Adler A110
who /fou/ here
Current no guns ausfag here with a licence app in and first pta. Just waiting now hopefully have them both back in about 3-4 weeks.
My question is about storage. Victorian regs say timber or steel construction, but nothing about concrete. Im thinking of pouring a concrete storage/safe room under my house, and putting a strong steel door on it. Is this viable/legal? I really dont want a standalone safe anywhere in my house.
Cheers guys
>>29473597
Aye
>>29473597
>>29473857
FOU annoys me. They are a perfect snapshot of shooting groups in Australia.
>SSAA does nothing!
>We should start our own gruppe
>Start group and tell everyone how you're different, you'll change the world, things will be different this time
>???
>17,000 FB followers
>Nothing changes
They've gone and crowdfunded without having any idea about how to influence politics. No media plan, no polling, no web support, and most importantly no call for noms to create such positions.
This is what disappoints me about Australia shooters, they are lame when it comes to collectively acting.
Any recommendations for where to try out target shooting near Brisbane?
And if I were to start target shooting (thinking of .22 of some variety) as a hobby what sort of dollarydoos would I be looking at?
>>29474491
So what have you done?
>>29474491
they've actually done quite a bit in terms of just getting out and trying to inform people, SSAA really does do nothing
whereas FOU until they can actually get people to help fund them are sticking with getting people to vote in bulk and try to be political
without FOU there are several meetings that the audiences wouldnt have been stacked with pro-guns like the victorian indoor rifle range for one
>>29474491
bringing shooters together and encouraging them to become politically active on their own seems to be a good way to start
they're not some leftist group with an endless supply of freshly-indoctrinated uni students to bus around to the weekly protest marches
>>29473597
Doing Nex Alea's work
>>29474702
>FOU detected
>>29474877
>SSAA really does do nothing
Their insurance is worth it but nothing else.
They have made an effort to improve but they won't take on the politicians.
>>29475091
>they're not some leftist group with an endless supply of freshly-indoctrinated uni students to bus around
This is the main issue we face. A hostile media, public service, universities, and lefties who all hate the idea of armed political opponents.
>>29475228
their insurance is for the sake of making more money like every insurance agency
the SSAA by the 1996 NFA made an awesome business deal, they are the forefront of genuine reasons for sport shooting so everyone pays their $100 every year for it
imagine if FOU had that kind of bank
>>29472411
The party system has broken our political system.
The Liberal party is anti-gun and anti-infrastructure, so all its members (no matter their views or their constituent's views) have to toe the party line on these issues.
>>29475705
>The Liberal party is anti-gun and anti-infrastructure
Liberal party member and shooter here.
Not sure what you mean by the infrastructure part. Is this some reference to the NBN or the other projects Labor promise but don't plan, fund or manage? Anyway...
I'm a party member and I'll tell you straight out don't trust the Liberal Party with firearms. Every meeting I bring up facts and point out how classical liberalism fundamentally supports private ownership of firearms with little success.
There are two reasons:
>old members who latch onto Howard's policy.
These one's annoy me because they cannot be reasoned with. The issue is 75 and older is 75% of the party.
>Concern over the political liability.
Due to decades of the left hating gun owners firearms are seen as a liability politically. Back a politician (even one you know personally) into a corner and they will jettison risky political issues.
The other issue is the power of the state and federal police agencies. Make no mistake, the police are not our friends and most senior police are now aligned with the ALP.
>be me
>about to make a Aussie /k/
>see there already is one
>click on it
>enjoy the shitposting
>>29472411
Nationals are
>>29475803
Nat's sold us down the fucking river years ago with Tim Fischer and the remainder of the NPA don't give a shit about their constituents
>>29475317
>imagine if FOU had that kind of bank
Would it be possible for them to set themselves up as that sort of organisation?
Wasn't there some government reports out soon cunts?
>>29471840
Waiting for the PTA on my new Jungle Carbine.
It's practically unfired and all matching parts, except...
SAPOL raided the dealer who owned it a decade ago and confiscated it. The case only just finally got the through the courts and the former-dealer won the right to ownership of the guns, except he doesn't have a dealer licence any more so the guns are being sold through a few other dealers.
All of the guns from the lot were covered in rust because SAPOL doesn't care about maintaining guns in the evidence lockup. Literally brand new rifles in boxes covered in rust. The jungle carbine got off lightly; its only light surface rust (on everything) and the barrel is thankfully spotless.
Managed to get the rifle for $500. Normally matching jungle carbines go for $1000 to $1500 each.
>>29472140
>>29472258
No one uses 45GAP.
Handguns in most cases are restricted to under 38cal for club use. Only security guards and primary producers can get larger handguns. Why would they choose and obscure calibre like 45GAP when they could choose 45ACP or 10mm?
>>29472411
Country liberals generally are.
>>29474546
Probably about $300 to $400 for a decent .22
Expect to get about 10 cents a round for the ammo.
Pretty good since anything larger is usually a dollar a shot.
What does the law say about getting a licence and having guns if you live in a caravan on a piece of land you own?
Are you allowed to store your guns in a caravan?
>>29475987
Needs gun safe
>>29475993
>Needs gun safe
There won't be any issues with the fact the caravan is not a permanent dwelling?
>>29475998
There will be issues with the fact the safe isn't "fixed to a building". Some states allow you to have a safe over 200kgs instead of fixing it to the building but the police may not like that because your safe can be driven away.
>>29475872
Yes. Not sure whether the ssaa is incorporated or a company. In either event both are easy for a lawyer to establish
>>29475751
The Liberal party has a solid history of selling or outsourcing infrastructure - short term policies that cost in the long run.
Their NBN rework is a prime example - transitioning to a FTTN model saves money in the short term, but significantly increases long term cost and maintenance requirements.
Any costs saved, have been tripled with the rising cost of maintenance in the next 15 years.
>>29475998
Which state? I can probably look it up tomorrow and post an answer back tomorrow
>>29476017
I guess I probably should ask them before I do anything then.
>>29476033
>Which state?
Queensland.
>>29476031
Costs for who? Because the ALPs NBN was always going to balloon out to some ridiculous amount, years after it was meant to be finished and the taxpayer would end up footing the bill.
FTTN is a good place for government to get out of the way and the market can work out the rest.
>>29476033
Will look it up tomorrow and give you an answer based on the legislation
>>29475899
So you're buying it straight from the police station?
How did you go about finding it?
Do the cops advertise or do something similar?
>>29476085
>any more so the guns are being sold through a few other dealers.
Please learn to read.
>>29476071
Thanks m8.
>>29476065
When had the market ever worked in Australia?
We always end up with a fucking single provider monopoly that stunts growth and inflates cost (see Telstra, WaterCorp, Synergy).
As an industry professional let me assure you that a FTTP model is a much cheaper system to maintain.
The sheer cost of maintaining FTC nodes is stupid and that's not even considering line maintenance.
FTF nodes are cheaper, have longer life spans and are considerably more "future proof" and that's not even considering the lines which never naturally degrade.
Now also consider what infrastructure supports - in this day and age there is not a single large business that can survive without secure and high speed internet access, especially those that are in the business of data and projects.
There is a reason those industries have been experiencing an exodus out of this country.
Basically with infrastructure you can "rent" or you can "own" - with copper we never stop paying.
>>29476107
Ah you got my hopes up you faggot
>>29476149
>>>29476065
>When had the market ever worked in Australia?
The market is distorted by government and unions in what is called crony capitalism. Get both out and the consumer wins.
>We always end up with a fucking single provider monopoly that stunts growth and inflates cost (see Telstra, WaterCorp, Synergy).
Exactly. Why create another one?
>As an industry professional let me assure you that a FTTP model is a much cheaper system to maintain.
Not disagreeing with you but the market can provide this, not a government monopoly that costs fat more than it should
>>29476190
The market will never remove FTTN infrastructure and replace it with FTTP infrastructure.
The government's only job should be infrastructure.
>>29476284
No government's only job should be ensuring men don't injure each other. The rest will be worked out by people.
Government and infrastructure just means inflated costs, delays and union corruption.
>>29475872
Yes, check out Shooter's Union. Same insurance broker, but genuine reason for A B H and only $30/year.
>>29476041
You could always ask the local dealer to store(some do for a fee) or if you have very close family or friends who would allow you to set up a safe there you could do that.
I know there's one other guy from Victoria on here with a WFA1... Any others?
Still need to get an adjustable stock and want to get a muzzle brake because I can, then I'll be done I think.
>>29476190
>>29476149
If you are a fair dinkum socialist then you are part of everything that has held our country back over the last hundred years, the same force which has resulted in our totally cucked gun laws.
The government owning your internet supply is just an extension of the government's massive involvement and control in every aspect of our lives. Including irrational, restrictive gun control.
>>29476344
Apparently Cleavers is going to stock them?
>>29476344
I don't, but I've been thinking of sending them an e-mail RE if they still make the semi's for Cat D licensees. Instructor Lic can't import so we're stuck with what's in the country, so may as well support local.
>>29476363
So that's finally happening, there's going to be a huge backlog.
>>29471840
>noongar
Sandgroper detected.
>>29476367
>been thinking of sending them an e-mail RE if they still make the semi's for Cat D licensees
Have fun with that. Internal suppressor so unless you're in NSW where you can even attempt to apply for a suppressor permit (as if they'd give them out) you're fucked.
>>29476353
Was that directed at me? Cause i agree with you
>>29471840
I'm keen on getting in to gun ownership in general, target shooting to kick off with. I'm looking at dipping my toes in the water by approaching my local shooting range. I live in Queensland and from what I can gather I need to do a "firearms safety course", apply with the police for a permit to join the range, and then apply for a permit to acquire from the police down the track with the club's permission. Is this about right? Maybe I'm retarded but when I try to do research I end up running in circles..
Is getting started as simple as booking in a day long firearms safety course? I don't really know anyone who owns guns other than people who have hunting related firearms licenses but they are basically no help desu...
I was basically thinking of getting a .22LR bolt action rifle to get started and then moving on to a bigger bore rifle as I get more experienced. Does anyone have any thoughts or advice on the matter?
>>29476385
Do safety course
Join a club (not jewish SSAA for fucks sake)
Apply for licence
Apply for PTA
Get gun
>>29476363
Of we can have these then why can't i have a Troy PAR ?
>>29476398
Because Customs will tell you to get fucked if you want to import anything they don't like the look of.
This is built locally, bypassing Customs. NSW and WA have already banned the WFA1 on looks alone though too.
>>29476378
I've used two of their semi's a couple years ago, there's wasn't any internal suppressor. Have they changed design in the last year or so?
The Wedgetail Industry guys look good, hopefully I can get something under $3k.
>>29476385
Which part of QLD? I can help.
>>29476398
That stuff is made here so we can have it, that's a prohibited import though.
>>29476401
NSW and WA have already banned the WFA1 on looks alone though too.
Any sauce on that?
>>29476404
>The short compact design uses direct impingement and an integral suppressor to provide command and control. The WFM4 LVC was developed specifically for law enforcement requirements and is available for professional use only.
Idk I assume it's available with or without the internal suppressor then.
>>29476411
>Any sauce on that?
Yeah. NSW and WA Police Firearms Registries. Ring them for yourself and ask.
>>29476414
I'm a lawfag. If they don't have legislative authority they can't just ban them.
If they decide to not issue permits you can compel them to issue one through an application to whatever civil appeals tribunal they have. Or a writ of mandamus through a court
>>29476414
Definitely an older design then, must have been one of their first. Definitely not the nicest AR I've used but better than none.
>>29476420
Well no one in NSW or WA has gotten one, so maybe you should go help out people in those states. Warwicks won't even take orders from people in NSW or WA.
Have lever actions been regulated yet?
>>29476432
Will look up tomorrow and report back
>>29476432
>>29476363
QLDfaggoy here. Will grab a WFA1 when they bring out a chambering in .308. According to old-mate on here, he spoke on the subject to the rep at the Brisbane ShotShow; it'll be out in a year or two, depending on how the lighter calibres sell.
I'm currently waiting on two synthetic 20" Adlers and an RPR. One for me, one for me mate.
Anyone know what NSW category a 15 shot internal mag pump action rifle comes under?
>>29472140
> 6.5 at all?
You could say that
>>29475887
Chubbs?
>>29476542
Jesus?
>>29476420
>I'm a lawfag. If they don't have legislative authority they can't just ban them.
Does the discretion of the Commissioner count? That's how they dodge apps in W.A because so much in the rules is left open to discretionary judgement.
>>29476574
Yes and no. Discretion is rarely absolute in administrative law. Normally the decision maker must take into account a range of factors and principles when exercising their discretionary power.
If they simply act then usually you can force them to provide reasons, and sometimes these are inadequate from a legal standpoint.
I just want to plink some cans out in the bush
What kind of licence do I get
>>29476664
Depends what state you're in
>>29473597
Yeah bud as well as most of the other FB groups
>>29476710
Sorry man, someone else might be able to help but all I know is the NT laws are more based than mine.
>>29475213
What's fou? I don't use Facebook
>>29476384
Ha sorry dude more so directed at the bloke who thinks the government should own and build all "infrastructure". I was just piping in on your little argument.
Good on you for getting involved in politics, I just end up getting dissolutioned with how the Liberals and Labor both wind up having fairly similar outlooks. It comes down to the voters at the end of the day, and it just boggles my mind how much the Australian public in general earnestly supports totally socialist policies. I guess the left controls education and the result is all this "progressiveness".
I watched a federal minister and his shadow minister counterpart on Sunrise a little while ago patting eachother on the back over trying to stop people getting access to Addlers with their dangerous semi automatic lever action seven shots per round assault capabilities. Shit just makes me lose hope. Keep fighting the good fight!
>>29476858
Firearm Owners United
>>29476496
is it centrefire or rimfire?
>>29476883
Aha. Cheers for that mate
Anyone have that one screenshot of the Australian poster who goes full flubba wubba and nobody can understand him
>>29477062
Are you a lefty?
>>29477093
I'm as fashy as they come.
But no, I just prefer the left hand cocking
>>29477104
Ahh so it's switchable? Cause I don't think I could hunt with a left cock rifle, not that they'd let me own a WFA
>>29476420
>I'm a lawfag. If they don't have legislative authority they can't just ban them.
They do. There's a law that says they can move them to Cat D based on appearance, so they did.
>>29476311
The government should only be there to improve life.
Essential infrastructure, etc., but it should keep out of trying to keep people safe, that's how we end up with cotton wool bullshit.
>>29476353
And companies owning a dilapidated shell of the internet is what private industry and government corruption will get you.
"True capitalism" doesn't exist in the real world (very much like "real communism") because of government corruption and corporate kickbacks.
Our society is owned and run by oligarchs that buy votes and bills - they block competition and purposely instill monopolies.
>>29476961
Wot kunt
>>29476710
>>29476664
A&B, it's easy in the NT. Just pop into Parap Dept. of lands and planning, get your Crown land permit (like $15). Install a safe, take some photos. Go to the police station with your photos and your permit and sit the test (10 questions, multiple choice). Pass the test and your Cat A&B licence will come in the mail.
>>29476377
FAAAHKIN WHITE DOG
>>29477093
This nigga doesn't know charging handles go on the left side.
>>29477745
On manual action rifles? Yeah I suppose that's why bolts are cocked on the left side of a rifle, it's super easy to hold a sight picture offhand while using your left hand to reload.
>>29477814
The WFA1 charging handle comes standard on the left with an optional right hand handle that screws into the bolt.
>>29477272
You clearly have no idea about different theories of government, do you?
I'm arguing for a harm principle based limitation per John Stuart mill. You're talking about utilitarianism and its 'greatest good for the greatest number ' type approach to law and society
The two are fundamentalist
>>29480646
*the two are fundamentally incompatible with each other
>>29476363
Buying from cleavers
>ever
Enjoy your 3 year wait
>>29481860
Cleavers are so hit-and-miss it's not even funny. I ordered my Adler through them in October, got it February. Whereas there seems to be people who ordered there's from the same shipment as me at the same time who ended up switching to the synthetic because there's still hadn't arrived.
And them having items for sale on their website that they haven't even imported yet, which is fine but some of them say so and some don't.
Never had an issue with them personally though, my LGS however charges $200 for a transfer from cleavers because he hates customers.
>>29471840
I think my cousin will be on it, they interviewed him when we went to Kerang for the opening of Duck season.
Anyone else go?
love SBS
>>29480646
>You're talking about utilitarianism and its 'greatest good for the greatest number ' type approach to law and society
No I'm not you cock sock.
I'm talking about government maintaining/producing essential infrastructure and then staying the fuck out of our lives.
You're the one who seems to enjoy having the government dictate everything down to when you can go to toilet.
>>29482400
>$200 Transfer
What the fuck?
>>29482677
REEEEEEEEEE
>>29482400
Without really giving much away or really saying anything, all I can say to that is don't blame the employees.
>>29482913
>>29483033
Nah the employees are pretty good, it's just the owner apparently hates dealing with cleavers so charges alot for transfers specifically from them. Paid $25 for a transfer of an old enfield but $200 for the Adler.
$200 is still bullshit though. There's only 2 gunshops within 300km here so sometimes you just have to order things online.
>>29483139
I was talking about cleavers employees, just yea don't blame them.
I'm guessing you're NT? Lackys?
I'm going in like 5min so probs won't see the response but will be good to know.
>>29483197
Yeah That'd be them.
And yeah Lackey's employees have always been good to me too.
>>29483492
That's *Cleavers' employees.
>>29476363
2.9k how about no, i hope another company comes in a knocks of the design and flogs em for around 2k each
>>29474546
Chandler/Belmont
>>29471840
Nofuns aussie here, about to buy a bastard sword
just letting you all know i look down on you bullet plebs
>>29471840
How do I get a hunting licence? If I was diagnosed with Autism and ADHD when I was younger will that impede me?
>>29485350
You will struggle to get a gun license then
>>29485350
Your best bet is to ring the weapons division of your local PD, I'm sure you would pass for having ADHD in the past worst case, you need a doctor to sign off that you are of sound mind.
>>29485350
>>29485619
>>29485622
What happens if you just don't tell them about your past medical issues?
Do they have any means of checking if you are being honest or not?
>>29486054
Yes they do have the means, if you lie to them you can be fined/jailed for it.
Same as your criminal record, they check that as well.
>>29486559
Are you saying that as a matter of routine when considering a licence application they look into the applicant's medical records?
I am skeptical of this. On what basis have you come to believe that they do?
That they check your criminal background is obvious, but medical records are a whole different sort of thing.
>if you lie to them you can be fined/jailed for it
No-one denies that lying on your application form is a crime. But as for going to jail for it, in this country you can rob a bank and only get a suspended sentence.
>>29482677
What a massive faggot.
>>29482677
so i can still use a knife and catch dogs to kill wild pigs and a bow to hunt kangaroo
>>29486686
Medical professionals are required to inform the police if they think you would be at risk if you obtained a firearm. They may have a registry of some sort.
>>29485350
No, ADHD Diagnosis shouldn't impede you at all.
If you're required to tell them, do so as they will find out but it shouldn't hold you back. If you've had a clean enough record since diagnosis you'll be fine, at worst they'll ask for your doctor to sign you off saying you're a normal person.
>>29486891
>They may have a registry of some sort.
I would imagine to get reported by your doctor or psychiatrist you would have to have said some pretty specific and disturbing stuff. You wouldn't get reported just because you have a mental illness of some sort.
>>29486895
>they will find out
Will they though? Are you speaking from knowledge or just speculation? Medical records are extremely private and to my knowledge they are not centralised onto a database like criminal records are.
>>29486686
I'm saying as someone who had a knock back on their application due to some past medical diagnosis.
Had to get a GP to sign off on my application, so yes their is a system in place, maybe not all states. Tasfag here.
>>29487020
Did you tell them about your medical history or did they dig it up on their own after you lied about it on the form and claimed to have no issues?
>>29487003
If you've ever been given restricted drugs for it, they will know.
>>29487028
Well, shit. You got me there, yeah I put done my medical history and they knocked it back after that :/ (the memory of a goldfish aprantly)
Guess I can't say for sure if they do or don't have a system. Just a hunch they do.
>>29487003
>Are you speaking from knowledge or just speculation?
I don't know if they've got a list of everyone's various mental diseases but they certainly have a "prohibited-persons" list. Which includes people who have been recommended by their GP to not get a gun licence.
I am speaking from experience when I say an ADHD diagnosis won't get your application stopped though.
>>29485350
Depends on the severity of the autism, adhd's fine.
>>29487037
I wish people who claim to know things would also say how they know it. Are you just guessing?
At the end of the day your application is at the police commissioner's discretion, you can get knocked back for some pretty stupid shit.
>>29487091
There's a registry of various restricted drugs, mainly opioids and psychoactive drugs.
If you have a prescription they can look you up - it's how they avoid people shopping multiple chemists with the same recurring script or people using faked scripts for restricted drugs.
>>29487096
>This
They could knock you back because you wore blue shoes once, they don't have to justify their actions.
>>29487186
>There's a registry of various restricted drugs
Do the police have access to it? Is it routinely checked as part of firearm licence applications? These are the pertinent questions.
The truth is that there is probably an electronic record of your whole life. In theory they could look up your internet history. But they don't.
What I want to know is what they have lawful authority to look at, what they have practical access to, and what is routine for checking applications.
>>29487197
>blue shoes
fuck me dead, that's a 10 year sentence in SA.....bunch of jackboot thugs.
>>29471840
So what's the go with the NFA review? I heard nothing about it at COAG so when will the laws get looked at and changed?
>>29487242
Bottom line: we don't know.
Nothing has been said about it.
>>29487248
Buggers mate, thought for sure they would bring it up after COAG.
Maybe they're waiting till after Insight on SBS and the 20th anniversary of PA to ride the feel train into even more fucked laws. I would not put that past them.
>>29487210
Yes, the police have access to it.
Legally it is not privileged information.
If you go for ASIO clearance, that's also part of what they check.
>>29487294
All firearms must be restricted to single shot mechanisms.
>>29487294
Honestly I think that might be what is going on. Either that or nothing happens.
>>29487294
PA 20th is only 22 days away....we are about to be in a world of shit
Do I have to have a sports shooter's licence to be able to shoot at a range? Can I do it with a recreational licence/?
>>29487406
Any firearms license will do.
>>29476363
Having a good buying experience with Cleavers is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end...
Additional application submitted, now the wait begins.
Any sand-gropers know what the current waiting period for additional licenses is? It just seems to jump all over the place
>>29487546
In tasland every application has a 28 day wait on it, including change of categorys on your licence.
Longest I've waited is around 35 days.
>>29487304
BRB putting in PTA for a 577-450 Martini Henry.
>>29487504
Out of all the times I've been to Cleavers, I've had 2x truly positive experiences.
First was when I walked in, waited around the counters for someone to serve me, Tony Cleaver walked past, asked what I was after. Said I wanted to collect an online order. Gave him the order number and he went and got it for me.
Other time was walking in first thing on a Saturday morning, and the emo/goth looking girl asked what I wanted. Said I wanted 1000x rounds of 308 ammo and she went and grabbed it from out the back.
>>29487717
>Calibre larger than. 38
Oi mate, you better have a PTA for each round of ammunition.
>>29487729
>commercially available 577-450
Yeah righto.
>>29487546
No idea.
What's the legality of adding MAG extensions for lever actions?
>>29487733
>Implying we'd be allowed to buy assault powder.
>>29487734
Depends. For lever action rifles? Whatever the state limit for centerfire Cat B magazines is.
For rimfire/shotguns - none. I saw some company in Sth Australia making extension tubes for the Adlers bringing them to 10 rounds.
>>29487738
>what is charcoal, potassium nitrate and sulphur
>>29487742
>10 round Adler.
I'm thinking of the children and yet I'm still rock hard.
>>29487746
>Owning at least two components of assault powder will be prosecuted as intent to manufacture and distribute.
Better be ready to bunk with the cousins.
Seeing as 50BMG rifles are banned by name in QLD, I wonder if Qld Police are dumb enough to give a PTA for a rifle chambered in 12.7x99mm?
>>29487753
What about 14.5?
>>29475899
hilariously trying to sell my matching No5 atm
>>29487727
Yup. Weird shiela. Says she's in a wicken. I'd chase the tail but wouldn't want voodoo dolls left on my fucking doorstep.
>>29487753
>Whats your reasoning for purchasing thus firearm?
Huntan'
>What are you hunting?
LIGHT ARMOR
>>29487742
Company name?
>>29487754
Technically, it should be fine as it doesn't say 50BMG... You can get rifles >50cal... And Small Arms Ammunition is defined as anything with a caliber under 24.5mm so me holding onto 20mm Bofors rounds that my grandfather brought back from the war are fine.
>>29487758
Don't stick your dick in crazy.
>>29487763
Well, legally, you require a license to possess those rounds.
>>29487764
You don't need to tell me, nigger.
>>29487761
Erector Extendors
>>29487761
Ignition Custom Engineering: facebook dot com slash iceng.au/posts/1638303219759009
>>29487769
I have a Cat A/B/H licence. That covers all Small Arms Ammunition. QLD isn't like NSW where you can only possess ammo for a firearm you own.
>>29487782
QLD is by far the most based state.
>>29487784
I disagree. NT would be because they can have 30round AR15 mags for regular Cat B rifles.
>>29487788
True.
>>29487811
These are straight pulls.
They're Cat B in most states - WA seriously has them at Cat D because they look scary - I'm not making that shit up.
>>29487775
I...what?!
>>29487813
oh my mistake, got thrown off my its spooky appearance.
>straight pull is Cat D
thanks australia
>>29487820
On the plus side, a company managed to sneak through a fucking lever release on Cat B because it looks like a Fudd gun and it should be available within a few months.
Anyone got any experience with the army reserve apprenticeship and traineeship program? Got a YOU session booked in a month going for electrician. Anything I need to know before I go in?
>>29487829
Only word is NOPE.
ADF has a history of bringing people in for apprenticeships/traineeships and then failing to provide education or training.
>>29487782
Thanks bro.
>>29487830
from what ive heard and seen the experience people have with trades is pretty inconsistent. some people join and have a great career and do fantastic work for their entire working life, or finish the time with the ADF then leave. Then there are people like those 200 navy guys who recently filed a class-action lawsuit because they were paid to sit around and do literally nothing for years.
>>29487828
which gun is this?
>>29487853
famas
>>29487764
Oh I've been there. It's like venus fly traps though - except the crazy isn't so much sweet nectar as crazy good sex.
>>29487003
Falsifying a firearms application is an offence and will get you perma-banned.
It's a risk either way if you are a mental fuckup.
>>29487908
I know what you mean brother, but it always goes sideways.
>>29487920
Fuck off "The Phantom Cock", call us when you find your dick.
>>29487925
Oh absolutely. I learned my lesson dating a girl with borderline. Between her European accent and the sex it took me over a year to figure out I was on a road to fucking destruction, but I learned my lesson eventually.
Borderline. Not even once.
>>29487937
Mate, I'm eight years in and balls deep in crazy.
She can suck dick though and has a great body.
>>29487938
Haha you've got more patience than me. The borderline thing snuck up on me - she'd lost her father not long after we met and so a few warning signs were masked as grief. But the whole one second you're the greatest human being on the face of the planet... the next minute you're worse than Idi Amin thing... I couldn't handle it after a while, even with "the being pulled into the shower of a display bathroom in a display unit in Ikea because she needed me to fuck her right there, right then" kinds of moments.
>>29487930
My dick is confirmed as large and firm by the government, because I am not a mental fuckup and own several firearms.
>>29487948
Kek, I fingered her in front of her grandma.
I knew she was nuts, but that was the moment I knew I could put up with it.
>>29487956
Bahaha that's gold.
>>29487948
You went to Ikea!! Kek.
>>29487961
Ikea is decent value for everything that's not furniture.
>>29487788
SA has them too. CAd D is easy to get in NT though so they still beat us.
>>29487685
Heh, I've never had quicker than 6 weeks in W.A.
>>29487782
Ahh shit, those ICE guys are building a pump-action pistol calibre rifle and a 7.62x39mm conversion for the 7615. I fucken posted my half finished designs for those on /k/ a good year or more back. I should have finished them.
>>29487753
Kek, do it
And put down "Really big rabbits" as your reason for it, too.
>>29472411
There's always the LDP m8
>>29488018
My recent addition in WA took about 3 weeks.
>>29488014
NT also has the PTAs over SA. SA they take like a month minimum, NT they're just done over the counter at cops shops, never have to wait.
>>29487828
details? i havent heard about this gun
>>29488014
30 Rounds of fun for now in SA.
I'M NOT GIVIN UP MY MAGS....FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS
latest purchase is a .243 tikka, just waiting on my PTA
I managed to snag my WFA1 a month or two ago, im going to swap the scope from the pumpy to the WFA1 tomorrow and go site it in.
>>29488117
what are the top two guns in that photo?
>>29488122
7615 and a WFA1
>>29488127
What did the cops say when you brought it in?
>>29488150
'noice'
>>29488150
I was a bit weary going to register it as someone else i know had an officer lose his shit when he took a kitted out straightpull pws in to the same cop shop. Fortunately for me the officer didn't bat an eyelid
It was more the parolee at the counter who had a meltdown of "omfg that thing is fuckin sick mate...FUARRRRRK" "SHIT MATE (to his friend) Come look at this fuckin thing"
I kinda left cautiously
I fucking hate registering my guns at the police station why can't i just do it at the dealer? I've only ever had one officer be a little funny with me when registering my glock.
>>29488117
wait
since when could ausfailians own scary looking assault rifles
I thought semi-auto was restricted unless you needed it for a job or something
>>29488178
it is....
Its just a spring assisted straight pull. Faster than a bolt but slower than my pump action rifle.
They won't let me have a semi auto longarm but giving me a handgun is fine....derp
>>29488177
When I went in to register my Lee Enfield I had the cop at the counter tell me to unbag my gun. As I reached for it another cop down the counter shouted at me to stop and then said to the cop who told me to unbag it "you never know whose going to be the next Martin Bryant!"
Thanks mate.
>>29488192
If I was a gun grabber I'd be more worried about handguns than semi-auto rifles. I can't stuff a semi-auto rifle in my waistband and walk down the street.
>>29488204
you know what gungrabbers should do
ban handguns since that makes more sense from a public safety perspective
then ban all semi-autos
but then allow civilians to own guns restricted to full auto BUT with low-capacity magazines
>>29488200
fuck that guy
Yes... a police station is the best place for a mass shooting.
>>29488204
They don't care about public safety, they care about what they can market.
Their goal is a 100% ban, they're just playing the long game.
![Desert-Tech-MDR-C-Left-Side[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2wIMeo4.jpg "Desert-Tech-MDR-C-Left-Side[1].jpg")
>>29488192
Serious question, is there any reason why we can't legally own bullpup 5.56 pistols like pic related?
>>29488204
It's almost as if these laws are based purely off of irrational fears.
>>29482677
that quote is for the female above that guy
>>29488208
>you know what gungrabbers should do
leave us alone?
>>29488268
If they had ten round mags and weren't subject to Customs' "OHMYGODITSSCARY" rules on import, then yeah, we could, if your club had a match you could shoot it in. There's old wives tales of a few SP89s and AUG Para 9mms existing around the place on H licences.
>>29488271
That's exactly what they're based on.
>>29487960
Yeah, we have some stories.
>>29488115
Can't remember the name, there was a thread about it a while ago.
>>29488277
So why not just get one of the literally two domestic AR producers to make an AR handgat?
>>29488200
Shoulda stabbed the cunt.
NFA reviewed
There is now a catagory for semis.
What do you buy?
>>29488277
There was a cat D Lithgow made AUG for sale on usedguns 5 or 6 years ago. I think they wanted $12k for it.
>>29488283
I'll bet. I was fucking her in an empty train carriage one day and she was moaning in my ear "cum in me, cum in me, go on, cum in me" which happens to trigger me fairly quickly; I've started to pop when she puts something in front of my face- it's her birth control pill packet, with clearly none used for over a week. I was both seriously pissed and (worryingly) seriously turned on at the same time; she was giggling after she came too... it was shit like that that was kinda crazy hot in the moment but made me realise it wasn't a long term prospect.
>>29488294
That would be oooooright, anon... that would be ooooright.
>>29488308
I got mine on the implant.
I keep her bagged and tagged.
First date she gave me a gobby in the front row of a packed cinema.
Thank fuck for adjustable arm rests.
>>29488300
Everything.
Seriously though, I'd buy an AR and an AK on the first day, followed by an L1A1 within a month and then maybe a Vz.58 a few weeks later.
>>29488316
lololol
>>29488294
Seriously?
Can I get that on a Cat H?
>>29488323
Theoretically, yes.
>>29488300
FAL.
Go innabush and slot floppies.
>>29488330
Link, please?
I might get cucked because I live in WA, but I want to believe.
>>29488340
Link to what?
The law is that if it's under 65cm it's legally a handgun.
There are other laws that say things like "If it looks scary it's still banned lel" which are enforced to varying extents.
>>29488345
No, for the producers.
You need to buy it in that configuration or else "once a raifu, always a raifu applies".
>>29488317
Id be overwhelmed.
Id build an AR and then I probably couldnt help myself buying a new gun every month or something.
But they would probably limit you to only having 1 semi even if they did let us have them
>>29488115
http://www.warwickfirearms.com.au/
