>Looking to buy my first revolver (want a dan wesson)
>not rich
>want to shoot it often and become a great shot
>want to go revolver hunting
>also want to cc it on occasion (already have a 30s for daily carry)
>.357 or .44
.357 mag
>can buy .38 special for cheap plinking
>debatable as to the viability for hunting larger game (large white tail/elk/moose)
>Less abuse as far as recoil
.44 mag
>expensive as shit to take to the range
>gonna kill anything I'm going after
>closer to having a big iron on his hip
I'm really at a crossroads here, I have never hunted with a revolver and as far as the caliber difference most recommend the .44, it's just so damn expensive to shoot compared to .357/.38sp.
Any advice from you who own one or both of these calibers?
>>29470807
Pretty sure that 357 will kill damn near anything in North America with expanding bullets & decent accuracy
>>29470807
start with a 357
you can always get a 44 later when you have more money to spend on guns and ammo
>>29470878
I own 2 357's
1 .38special
2 45acp
1 9mm
1 380
1 25acp
1 9mm para
I have shot multiple 44mags
45 long colts
Haven't needed to buy one yet, I don't live in bear country
>>29470916
Yea thats a fair point, Im just afraid if I don't buy one of the older DW .44 mags then I will have to shell out a shitload in the future because they are harder to find than the .357 counterpart.
>>29470878
Really? I have always heard that .44 was the minimum to hunt large game with.
>>29470807
>also want to cc it on occasion
This is really going to fuck you.
Save up, get a nice smith and Wesson performance center .44 mag. Hand built, best revolver I've ever owned.
>>29471058
What is your definition of large game
Hogs
Deer
Elk
Mooose
NA Bison
Cape buffalo
Elephant
Rhinosaurus Rex?
Hippopotamus?
Blue whale?
Just get a gp100 4" and a blackhawk in 454 with a 6 or 8"
>>29470957
>have to shill out a shitload in the future
well, yeah.
everything that is older and built with any type of quality is just going to get more and more expensive as the demand for it grows.
but hopefully by that time you'll be making enough money to compensate for the inflation
>>29471131
I would say in my case it is only north american large game that range from whitetail deer and up.
>>29471085
Why? the dan wesson revolver has changeable barrels, So I can cc with the 2" with smaller grips, and change to a 8" with some bigger grips for range/hunting.
>>29471217
I would shoot ohio whitetail with 357 no problem
Might not try elk or moose or grizzly though (just for humans kill & personal safety)
But pretty sure the right bullet in the right place with a 357 would work on all of them
>>29471243
Humane* fucking autocorrect
>>29471243
That is reassuring, I have a .357 DW model 15 on layaway at my local gunstore because I couldn't decide and have found them to be very hard to find in my current area (alabama).
I was looking at a .44 on gunbroker that LOOKS fine in the pictures, but how can one know if a gun is sound if you cant hold it in your own hands?
>>29471234
ccing with a snub nose is really not the optimal thing to do
at a 2 inch barrel a 44 mag has the same muzzle energy as a glock 26 in 9mm
don't constrain yourself to a heavy recoil ineffecient platform when it's meant to actually save your life just because you think revolvers are cool
>>29471275
Just remember it's not a ruger, so be careful, some of the higher pressure commercial ammo is for Ruger only
Also watch out for the souper fudd reloads guaranteed to wreck a moose, that shit might fuck your gun also
>>29471275
>how can one know if a gun is sound if you cant hold it in your own hands?
buy from a seller with an inspection period/return policy, and check it out thoroughly before making the FFL transfer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95xjizDOrcc
>>29471350
>at a 2 inch barrel a 44 mag has the same muzzle energy as a glock 26 in 9mm
>>29471353
DW revolvers are incredibly strong and can handle some of the hottest rounds because of their lineage as silhouette shooters.
>>29470807
>first revolver
you should get a .357 man
.44 is a meme unless you live in alaska, and is very expensive unless you're reloading.
>>29470807
I honestly don't believe .357 is powerful enough to humanely kill anything "large" by you definition. When it comes to hunting its better to be safe than sorry, so what you have to spen an extra 20 cents per round when you are plinking, big deal, the animal will thank you when you kill it cleanly.
>>29472422
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-gPBKt3fFCw
For your viewing pleasure 133 yrd kill with .357 mag taurus
>>29472491
Just because some sharpshooter can do it doesnt mean your average fudd shitter should go out and try to take game with a .357. Its SELFISH and IRRESPONSIBLE to the animal to use such a weak round. A .357 MAY be able to take a small whitetail without problem, but the big ones you had better be hawkeye.
>>29472667
.357 magnum is still more human than bowhunting.
>>29470878
>>29471058
>>29471131
>>29471217
>>29471243
Guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2L_Tpe6_1s
If this can take an Elk, I'm pretty sure 357 can take white tail and other equivalently sized game
>>29472422
>>29472491
>>29472667
missed you three
see>>29475349
Get the .44.
It's worth it.
Also, I envy you.
A Dan Wesson .44 with a barrel kit is literally the ultimate firearm.
If I could only own one gun my entire life, I'd pick a Dan Wesson .44.
It'll kill anything and you can put a short barrel on for CC or a long barrel on for hunting.
Get the 44 and reaload. No shit, a 4" 44mag is the most versitile gun you can get. Feasable (if not comfertable) to carry, home defense and carry with 44 specials, hunting, woods carry, etc.
And a basic reloading settup is ot very much, and will pay for itsself in a few hundred rounds.
>>29470807
.44 Special and .44 Russian are things, but they're more expensive than the .38 special equivalent. There's always .454 casull, where you can shoot .45 LC.
>>29476471
A Lee Classic Loader will pay for itself after only a few boxes.
You can into reloading very cheap without needing a garage or tools.
>>29470807
.357 maximum or GTFO.
>>29471131
Ur mum
>>29470807
For a hunting revolver, you want a long barrel, .44mag, and single action.
for CC, you want a shorter barrel, double action, and .44 is over kill.
you will not be able to acomplish all your goals with one revolver, realistically.
>>29477529
>not wanting to blow porch monkies away with a hot .44 magnum round.
step it up senpai
>>29470807
For the price of a DW, you could get 2 revolvers, both better in thier individual aplication, and better guns.
you want a 4" gp100 or a 2.5-3" sp101 for CC, and a super blackhawk bisley hunter in .44mag.
>>29477552
>DW
>being more expensive than ruger/S&W
you should really know what you're talking about before you start posting. A dan wesson in decent quality will cost a few hundred bucks less than a comparable medium framed ruger/smith.
>>29477551
Well in a perfect world, where there is no chance of missing and needing a follow-up shot, then yes, a .44 mag would be awesome, but iut of a CCable sized revolver, the recoil will be to much for followup shots.
and if you download, or go with .44 special, then you basically have 6 very expensive .45ACPs.
>>29477575
>>29477575
Nigger, a shitty DW is the same price as a new, stainless GP100, and only ~$100 less then a new blackhawk
>>29477577
Yea that's true, good thing op said he already has a 10 capacity glock for carrying, It sounds like he only wants the option to carry it, and it isn't a main concern.
>>29470807
Op if youre still here you should probably go with the .44, lets be honest, its much more badass and fun to shoot.
>>29470807
your list is essentially
.357
>cheap
>kills most stuff (just shoot it twice)
>fun 2 shoot
.44
>expensive
>kills everything
>is cooler
If you reload your own brass, get a .44 for the cool factor. If not, .357 is the way to go.
>>29477660
Any recommendations on a cheap good starters kit for reloading?
>>29470807
Since you already have a Glawk that will work for CC (objectively better than a revolver, though i do like revolvers also) if you are serious about hunting with one, you would be better off with the .44, and getting a .357 some other time.
but for hunting, you also want it to have at least a 6" barrel, and single action is much better.
so i agree with some other anons, that the ruger super blackhawk hunter is about the best option, it has a 7" barrel, has mounts for rings, and comes with scope rings if you want to mount a scope its super easy, its single action, .44mag, and stainless steel, which is a nice benefit for hunting.
and you could always carry that bitch one day for extra badassery.
oh and its only about $75-$125 more than a DW
>>29477720
Well fuck you can go super cheap, they make one that is like $20 and can fit in your pocket, but you wont get the best loads.
>>29470807
If you want a big iron on your hip get a .45 Colt SAA
>>29477752
If you want it to break, and only handle pussy loads, if not than you mean a ruger vaquero.
>>29477729
is there a noticable difference in strength/accuracy of a strictly DA revolver versus a DA/SA revolver?
>>29477787
Not necessarily, but for example, a ruger will be able to handle the hottest loads, whereas smiths and DWs wont.
>>29470807
If you don't buy a .44 you're a pussy, and probably a vegan too.
>>29470807
Look man, I don't know what kind of hunting you want to get into, but I can guarantee if you go with the .44 you will be able to kill pretty much anything you might be interested in. I used a red hawk the other day to clear out some squirrels. Good fun right there.
>>29471353
I have shot 1000's of extremely hot rounds from my DW744 with zero issues.
>>29477787
>>29478035
Yea I have read that because DW were primarily used for silhouette shooting (due to their unrivaled accuracy) they had to be strong enough to handle the silhouette rounds which were very very hot.
>>29470807
If you have the means to start reloading do it op, it sounds kinda like you're new to shooting, start early and save more.
>>29479504
This op. No matter what caliber you go with its not exactly cheap and the affordable ammo will be dirty & innacurate. I make my .44's for a little less than half the cost of Winchester white box, and that's with hornady XTPs.
>>29477513
>>29477768
>2nd or 3rd gen Colt SAAs
>weak
Also why the fuck would you get an SAA if you want "modern" functions like spinning the cylinder while uncocked and a transfer bar? Just get a modern S&W or something.
It was also the most powerful cartridge revolver in the world when it came out so it can't really be a pussy gun, unless you get super weak cowboy action loads or something.
I love my Dan Wesson. It doesn't extract steel case ammo well though. That's what I get for being cheap... Speaking of cheap I bought it for only $285
>>29480099
oh wow, where did you manage to get it for that price?
>>29477552
Bailey grips are shit. Anyone who complains about the standard single action grip style isn't holding the gun right.
>>29477508
Why would you want that pea shooter? Get a .460 S&W Magnum.
>>29480099
What about aluminum?
