Instead of semi-auto ones?
If you miss the shot, you are fucked aren't you.
While with a semi-auto you can give fast consecutive shots.
>>29467691
>While with a semi-auto you can give fast consecutive shots.
And that's not an important requirement for a sniper. The military is naturally conservative when it comes to procurement. If there is no clear advantage to getting something different, they usually don't bother. Now, SOCOM does make extensive use of semi-auto sniper rifles like the SR-25.
>>29467691
Can we put the answer to this in the sticky so there's not a damn thread about it every day.
>>29467691
semi auto are designated marksman rifles
bolt action are still used because less moving parts = more accuracy
>>29467691
A sniper wouldn't typically take multiple shots at once and risk exposing his location
>>29467691
There only one reason. Costs.
US army doesn't get any budget. So they still have to use old 1911's, m14 rifles, M2 Browning. Stuff from WW2.
They are poor, so they have to use what they can get. The sniper rifle is the same their grandpa from WW2 and Vietnam.
Most of the money goes to the Air Force to buy their F-22 and F-35. Billions and billions of dollars.
Also to the Navy, each carrier costs billions, each destroyer costs billions.
>>29467791
This post is so full of wrong I don't even know where to start.
>US Army doesn't get any budget
You could have at least said Marine Corps and you'd have been right about that.
>>29467791
Haha no, while the Army may be poor compared to those services, they aren't actually poor. You want poor, Marine Corps is poor, their budget is just Navy table scraps. The Army uses M2's because what other .50cal MG's are there that are superior to it in performance for about equal cost and produced in a NATO nation? M14's aren't around anymore, replaced with M110's. The Army could also blow billions on a shitty camo pattern and research projects that basically go nowhere or will be stuck in development for 2 decades or more.
>>29467691
Its more reliable than the ARs that they use
>>29467791
Bullshit, the post.
>>29467851
You're right about him being wrong, but also wrong about the Marine thing too.
Marines are even getting m4's now I heard. Plus the Marines custom manufacture their sniper rifles. They are as exactly as they want them.
Also think about location conceal with a bolt. The cartridge doesn't go flying out the side, making it easier to collect their brass.
>>29467791
>US army doesn't get any budget.
how stupid do you have to be to think this is true?
are you literally actually a Senator right now?
>>29467912
the Marine Corp gets 10% of the national defense budget, which is tiny compared to how much they do.
>>29467949
I know, I was a former Marine.
Also I heard it was 7%. Maybe it got increased.
>>29467691
It works. always.
>>29467949
Marines don't do anything because they screw up whatever job they are given
>>29467691
Loading a new round takes like 0.5 second.That is faster than the time of flight of your round at 800m.
>>29467691
>>29467715
>>29467791
>>29467912
From what I understand, the reason for bolties is consecutive shots at long distances. With semi-autos, the gas cycling causes a minute fluctuation with the muzzle velocity and the angle (that mostly becomes noticeable at longer distances). Snipers do not want to have to adjust every other shot or take in certain unknown factors into account. Bolt actions will fire with a consistent muzzle velocity and angle.
Does this sound right?
>>29468029
Doesn't sound wrong.
I was also told the rounds they use are hand made. The gun powder is weighed by a worker using a scale and then loaded to ensure it is uniform to all the others. As opposed to all the other ones coming fully automated off an assembly line that could have small fluctuations.
Still US Military issues a new semi-auto sniper rifle each year.
>>29467791
AIDF are so easily trolled, fucking retards
>>29468074
Ding Ding!! Correct a mundo!
>>29468107
>was merely pretending
Excellent reply friend
>>29468107
>Hey...Hey guys, hehe, I'm gonna fake like I'm retarded and you guys will fall for it
>acts like a retard
>people think he's retarded
>Heh Heh heh you ignorant fucks, I was only ACTING like I eat paint chips, you guise are so spoopid. Gr8 troll, top kek 4me
>>29468029
Why can't the single shot rifle have an action that you can just pull back and release like in semi autos. Or cycle back and forth.
Or better yet have some valve in the front so you can choose between gas action or manual.
>>29468179
>>29468146
I'm not the same guy faggots. It's just a fact /k/ is too stupid to recognise trolls
>>29468186
Why?
Bolt works perfectly.
>>29468231
Because it would be faster?
>>29468237
See
>>29468000
What the fuck do you think a sniper does exactly...
>>29467691
Because there are no rugged, reliable semiautomatics chambered in the longer ranged rounds now being used like the .338 and .300 magnums. And some of the 7.62 semiautomatics have been flops (see M110).
Current though is different rifles for different jobs.
>>29468237
Played BF4 a lot I guess.
>>29467691
>>29467691
because bolt action rifles have less moving parts. also, they don't think they will miss. if they are taking out multiple enemies, ofc they will use a semi.
>>29468272
I know at least POF is working on a .300 Win Mag AR. They'll never get a U.S. Gov contract, but at least it could be proof of concept.
>>29468343
People make them. They just aren't any good. They're no where close to rugged enough for any serious use.
They're also not as accurate as bolt action counterparts. No a big deal at 600m. Major deal at 1200m.
>>29468343
Four companies have released .300wm ARs
I wonder why won't they all use Dragunovs. it is the best sniper rifle ever.
>>29467791
u r gay
>>29467886
This sort of stuff isn't even funny anymore. When everyone just posts pure shit, what is the value in /k/? I used to regular this board, but why bother? 90% of posts are trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls. There's no comedic value to this. There's not even any egotistical gain to be had.
Well anyways, you guys keep it up. I'll stick to the slower boards that actually maintain a decent conversation 70% of the time.
>>29467791
Army gets 50% more funding than the Air Force.
>>29467691
This has probably been said before, but it's because the cycling of a new shot into the chamber of a semi auto causes a minor fluctuation in the accuracy. Meanwhile a bolt-action doesn't automatically cycle a new round in the chamber after each shot. So less moving parts=more accuracy.
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>>29467791
Did you miss all the threads yesterday when they announced they they blew $45 million on HK417s. Also the XM2010 is more expensive and uses more expensive ammunition than the M110/M110E1
Pic related is the winning configuration of the CSASS program
https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=f8993dc00298d058a49ace70600ebe1d&tab=core&_cview=0
>>29469857
I always wanted /k/ to have flags, so we can see just how many people posting shit are actually from nofun countries.
There's a number of reasons. Bolt action rifles can be made to shoot with absurd precision, which shines when you're shooting at longer distances. If you're posted up on a roof shooting through a tiny hole in a wall, covering units 800 meters out, a bolt action rifle is great. If you're covering guys from 300 meters in, not quite so great. That's why sniper teams still have m4s and such.
>>29470320
>He's fallen for the 'euros can't own guns' meme
>>29467756
>>29467715
Have you guys ever heard of a suppressor?
>>29470385
>he's so poor, european and gunless he has to try and use reverse memology so he can post a reaction image
>>29467691
yes its just like counter strike where if you peak with an awp and miss, you will surely die because real life war is played on a long corridor where everyone sees each other at the same time.
>>29470440
>reverse memology
>Implying I don't own an arsenal equal to average american gun nut
Why don't they use straight pull bolts? It's still a bolt action but also faster than a rotating bolt.
>>29470523
Post your "arsenal"
Timestamp of course
>>29470530
Straight pull got a bad rap back in WWI, the Ross was pretty alright but if you field stripped it and rotated one piece wrong the bolt wouldn't be able to hold the pressure of the round and explode. I think there was a straight pull Swiss or Swedish rifle in the WW2 era but for obvious reasons those didn't catch on. It's just mechanically easier to make a rotating bolt mechanism
Why use a rifle at all?
>>29467949
>how much they do
Which is... what, exactly?
>>29470645
those gooks aren't going to rape themselves
>>29470651
Oh... so the dragon in the commercials represents the virginity of Japanese middle schoolers.
>>29468186
This essentially aleady exists. It's a semi auto rifle.
You just turn the gas system off. Some semi's can't I'm sure, but I'm willing to bet most modern ones have some form of disabling it.
Ill be nice and not tear you apart, but pls l2guns m8. What you suggest is paradoxical.
>>29467691
So apparently the M110 doesn't count or something? Just because they are also using the M2010 doesn't mean they stop using the M110.
>>29470387
Yes, in fact we have. Why?
>>29470523
Your 'arsenal' of plastic butter knives?
>>29468186
These are both already things.
Straight pull bolt rifles for the former, and multiple ARs have a vavle that will make it require manual cycling for the latter.
Could a floating barrel G3 modification be as acurate as a bolt action? i mean you don't have holes in the barrel with the roller system, but then the weight added might put it out of the question since snipers need to travel long distances to take a shot.
>>29468186
What is not using the gas system
>>29470530
Relative complexity and cost of the mechanism. The bolt itself still has to rotate to unlock itself from the recesses in the action; this generally means you have a two piece assembly of bolt + bolt carrier. The bolt will have a helical groove or ridge or something that the carrier will ride on as it travels backwards, rotating and unlocking the bolt before moving it to the rear.
Really, you're halfway to having a semi at this point, you just need to stick a gas system on it.
>>29470545
Been a few hours. I declare anon rekt.
>>29468074
They showed this on the history channel. Maybe modern marvels.
>>29474669
I think it was the show Sniper actually. It's on Youtube actually and it's a pretty good watch.
>>29470387
A suppressor doesn't make you completely invisible
Just harder to find after a shot
>>29470601
K31 and 1911 rifles have rotating bolts. They have a guide lug that travels through a channel and does the part of the traditional bolt handle.
>>29467691
Because the US army is retarded and has been since pre-ww2
