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Help me pass the fitness test edition
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
Use the IRC pussies
1st for the Air Force.
2nd for the mighty cavalry
>>29458104
You will not get sent to language school as a new officer, that route is only for enlisted. Very, very few officers go to language school.
Be aware that Army OCS is competitive to get in and to actually graduate. If you fail OCS you will remain enlisted in an MOS of the Army's choosing for the remainder of your contract.
what poly test? lmao.
Any tankers here?
>>29462479
None I hope, they're worse than your average infantry.
>>29462518
Shieeet, worse than mortars?
>>29462523
In my experience most tankers have been lazy good for nothings. Also they are wannabe cav scouts yet they talk shit about them.
How likely am i to get a waiver for having bronchitis when younger, tonsils removed (cause that counts as surgery apparantly) and non life threatening er visits? i have already been to meps and passed through just waiting on SG approval for adhd,, but its been an interesting wait for the last few weeks
>>29462300
KEK
>>29462553
Nobody is a wannabe cav scout
>muh just like infantry
Fuck off
>>29462553
Well shit. Guess I can try for pilot then.
If i was under my parents tricare does the govt already have all my records?
>>29462454
Some military positions require you to take a polygraph. Pretty much only a handful of job fields will ever get slotted into those positions.
>>29462558
possibly
doesnt even matter
depends
>>29462224
I lied about not being diagnosed with ADHD, and I've signed my contract already. 74D.
How long do I have before they catch onto my shit and I get kicked the fuck out? My legal record is spotless, so do I have a chance that they MAY let me stay in if I do performed admirably in my work before they found out?
>>29462913
probably never
>74D
>>29462918
Seriously? I saw that 74D (Chemical specialist or whatever the acronym is, can't remember) requires SECRET clearance or whatever. You're telling me that they wouldn't find out about that diagnosis through a background check?
Or are you saying that my chances of being allowed to stay in are pretty much non-existant.
>>29462944
secret is pretty basic clearance
i got one no biggie they wont probe too deep so youre probably in the clear with something as inane as ADHD
why would you pick 74D though? you dont do shit
>>29462944
Nearly every MOS requires a secret clearance.
You'll be fine.
Well, no, you'll be a 74D, so you won't be fine. But you won't get caught.
>>29462699
AF fusion analysts come to mind. 1N4 if I recall.
>>29462965
It was either that or some water treatment MOS. Keep in mind that I'm enlisting in army reserves as a junior in high school, so my choices weren't exactly astounding. (Even with a 76 ASVAB and 110 line score). My plan is to transition to active duty once I finish my senior year, although I'm reading that it will be a bitch to do. (If you have any info on that or the split-op program, it would be greatly appreciated, by the way).
Anyway, chemical experience is actually pretty useful for me as I'm planning on doing firefighting after my contract is up. Got like 6 generations of firefighters in my family line. It's legitimately a family tradition at this point.
>>29462982
Cancer isn't a biggie to me. I've already exposed myself to enough heavy metals and unhealthy substances that my cells are little ticking time bombs. And wearing charcoal suits and sweating my balls off while telling people to beware the smell of almonds sounds bretty fun.
>>29463010
>6 generations
>starting with your great great great grandfather
What was fighting fires like in 1760?
>>29463010
you will literally not be doing any chemical experience
>>29463026
you will never do either
how often do you think youll be in the suits anyway?
>>29463034
Meant 5, but yeah we've had a shit ton of firefighters, policemen, medical professionals, and a fair number of servicemen in the bloodline. Literally bred to be public servants.
>>29463038
>no chem experience
Possible post-service employers probably won't realize that. That "training", though...
>never do either
Well what the fuck do I even do? Just sit around and hope that a nuclear holocaust erupts in the mainland US?
>>29462982
Speaking of clearances, when I was going through ranger training, we had to fill out paperwork. Some bullshit about top secret nonsense. I entered my information and let it be. I assume I passed since six months later I was still a Ranger. Afterward, I entered the super secret world of LRS. Thank fuck I had security clearance.. They eye-balled me up and down. Eventually, I joined and became a team leader.
>>29463010
>even with a 76 asvab
>>29463056
pretty much
>training
try once a year
>>29462913
>74D
>be me, 2005
>AIT for 15J because ASVAB is for 3rd graders
>buddy is a shithead, gets a disciplinary reclass
>he gets handed a paper with the worst 8 jobs in the Army, pick your top 3 and you might get one
Seriously, the worst. Like, 11X bad. But I almost laughed at Water Treatment Specialist, I loved In The Army Now.
>he gets 74D, we all joke that they're gonna make him a human chem light
>>29463066
>deloris lane
>a ranger
i dont think so tim
>>29463070
OOOOH boy. Of course I manage to choose the slacker MOS.
>>29463076
Any shitty stories from him?
>>29463066
Did you lie about anything when you enlisted or were you completely clean?
>>29463140
>shitty stories
I lost contact. Tried searching HeadNovel a while ago, couldn't find him. But I can't imagine a place where they send that big of fuckups is much fun.
Or maybe it's too much fun.
Good luck, dude.
>>29463026
I was talking about your mental health.
You're not going to be doing anything like what you're thinking.
>>29463182
Thanks, man. Looks like I'll probably need it to actually do something worthwhile during my service...
>>29463203
are you in DEP still? you can still back out
ask your fucking friends on 4chan before signing or buying anything
thats what i do
>>29463217
Nah, man. I've signed my contract and have my ship date for basic training already.
Honestly I don't mind any of this, though. I'm used to getting fucked in life so I'm just thankful that I've gotten this far.
I get mild asthma in the spring time
I told my recruiter this (Air Force)
done goofed?
I want to serve in a year or so, maybe 2 or 3, and maintain a civilian life, so I plan to go into the reserves or guard.
Munitions 89x series and supply and logistics 92x series seem interesting.
Anyone have any experience or knowledge to share about these jobs?
>>29463507
I think your fine since it's chairforce
>>29463516
92 is literal supply clerk type stuff.
How difficult is it to get a Commander's Nomination to USMA?
I've got a pretty shit GPA in high school, so I'm thinking my best shot of going to West Point is Active Duty.
Would scoring very high on the ASVAB, SAT, and ACT (does APFT factor in?) be enough to offset a 2.7 GPA in high school?
>>29463256
>I've signed my contract and have my ship date
Doesn't this literally mean you're in DEP?
Fairly certain you can still back out at this point
>>29463695
sorry dude, with a 2.7 west point is a no go
go for rotc at some public college
>>29463704
What about going to USMA prep school as active duty enlisted?
>Daily reminder to never become a grunt, an MP, navy NUKE, or AF SF.
Now that that's out of the way, I got diagnosed with chronic depression and anxiety a year and a half ago and got put on medication.
Only the diagnosis was bogus and my medication didn't even fit the initial diagnosis upon review. 1.5 years later with no symptoms of whatever the hell was happening, do you think a letter from my primary doctor explaining the screw up and vouching for my health will sway an AF recruiter to not immediately show me the trash when I talk about getting a background check intensive 1N related AFSC?
How would y'all suggest I approach this?
>>29463759
if you can get your doctor to sign a note that says you are of fit mind and body and that the previous diagnosis was a mistake, you should be good
>>29463709
You would need to take some college classes while on active duty to prove that you're slightly less of a moron than you used to be.
>>29463256
>>29463217
Is right. You can talk to your recruiter to see if you can change MOS, but if not you are under no obligation to show up for your ship date. You can bail during DEP, even without informing the recruiter.
If you had gone Guard, you would be screwed and under obligation, but you went reserves.
>>29463887
How many? A semesters worth?
>considering joining the navy because I like travelling and don't mind working
I'll probably end up in bumfuck nowhere for 4 years though.
>>29464491
They love to tell you that if you join up, you'll see the world. Thing is, ~70% of the world is water. So if you join the Navy, you'll be traveling a whole lotta water.
What are some not shit jobs in the airforce that could help me once i get out?
>>29464608
Air traffic control
>>29463026
If I join 11b inf right now during peacetime, what are the chances of me seeing any action whatsoever? Does 11b even patrol during peacetime?
Also, if someone joins national guard 11b, how many years can they be deployed? How many years one after the other can they be deployed? Thanks bros
>>29464655
You're not deploying in the NG unless we are going balls out against a target. However, if you get your wings and are Infantry your chances of seeing combat is greatly improved. Shoot for the 82nd or the 75th. Both units tend to deploy before everyone else. btdt
>>29464723
What if I joined non airborne infantry in the army?
>>29464618
What is it like?
>>29464723
82nd deploying more is a meme.
>>29464799
No. It isn't. The 82nd has been first on the scene since day one. Ranger combat jump into Afghanistan? Guess who was already on the ground? That's right. The 82nd jumped in first. 504th. Look it up.>>29464799
Im a nice guy
I dont like negativity. I dont hold grudges against people.
If I'm having a bad day I usually recover with some humor and funny pictures.
Im like Ned Flanders...
will I get taken advantage of in the military? :I
>>29464908
idk man you sound like someone I would feel like shit for being mean to, you might be alright
>>29464908
If you get taken advantage of now then the military won't change that.
>>29465061
I don't know if I am right now.
Like in my frat, I'm the guy who is always friendly to everyone. Never got into an argument with anyone, even when I was drunk.
They always confide in me their darkest secrets, because they know I'm like a therapist to them.
but I feel like I'm too nice sometimes.
I'm like Kasich lol
>>29465088
I'm like that too, you'll be fine. There's a difference between being a good friend and being stepped on.
>>29465088
I'm gonna be real here, you sound like a doormat faggot.
If you've never gotten into an argument with your frat bros, you either defer your opinion to others or don't have any. Which means that someone can and will take advantage of you.
Plus if you think Kaisch is analogous to a nice person, you have some other issues as well.
>>29465104
I guess you're right.
But It's not like I don't have strong opinions. I just find arguments a waste of energy.
For instance,
I like Trump, friends love Bernie. Cant convince them to like Trump. "Lets just agree to disagree, theres no reason to argue" Because there really isn't any. I hate arguments about politics. People are so stubborn.
I'm like, make sure people are doing their jobs around the house also, so I get people trying to weasel their way around responsibility. They argue with me all the time. "I already did this, I'm not going to be here that day, fuck you dude, *uninterpretable garble*
I dont really argue, because they know what their job is. I dont make mistakes either. So I tell them to do their jobs or get reprimanded later by leadership.
I guess I should say I'm not an angry person. Dont you need to be angry in the military?
Kasich is a nice guy, at least on tv. Which is what I was referring to.
>>29465104
actually disregard my last post
I didn't realize what I was saying.
I DONT LET PEOPLE STEP ON ME
I LITERALLY DONT IF I FEEL WRONGED IM VOCAL ABOUT IT
But I'm also not a jackass about it.
>>29464855
First isn't more.
Because they normally have the responsibility for the GRF, they deploy much less, as they have to keep a brigade in reserve in case of a new conflict. That's why 10th MTN is the most deployed division to Afghanistan and 3ID the most deployed division to Iraq.
god I love gfur
>>29465178
Fucking puss as bit enjoy getting cucked down range
-sinsereally a battle harded 11 bangbang
You can't hack it
>>29465305
Enjoy dying at 30 from liver poisoning you alcohol poisoning harded moron
Ok so I'm bout to go to meps. Am I gonna enlist same day or not? Also my friend told me that I should get marksman ribbon, is it good to practice at a range for that or any shooting area I live innadezert. Or is it hard to recreate the weapons they use at bootcamp?
>>29465424
Also is 12y any good, Geospatial engineer or Is it tedious
Whats a good branch to commission to if i want to do psyops later on?
>>29464753
Decent chance you never deploy in your first contract, depending on if we get into another fight or not.
>>29465317
I'm 45 and I have at least two years worth of liver left.
>>29465472
The answer is always Army. The Army has everything and anything you could wish for in a successful career.
>>29465842
Pretty sure anon meant basic branch, not branch of service.
>>29465179
I went to war on the whole 18 hour 82nd Airborne promotion. I was 2nd Brigade. When I was in the 75th, we called it RRF - Ranger Readiness Force. In the 2nd Infantry Division we called it QRF - Quick Reactionary Force. For the life of me, I can't remember what we called it in the 82nd. I could be plotted in the PHL right now and still have this brain freeze.
>>29465902
I meant PHA - Personnel holding area and were called it DRF - Defensive Readiness Force.
Brain fart.
>>29465424
>marksman ribbon
Ribbons are useless shits you get to put on the clothes you wear when you're in trouble. You get them for just about anything.
>>29463759
What's wrong with nuke? Doesn't it have some of the best job security once you get out?
You're going to be miserable in the military no matter what...
>>29465285
Was the deer intentionally drawn as a trap? Female deer don't have antlers.
>>29466078
Anon, that's not even trying to be a trap. It's quite clearly supposed to be a boy.
>>29465995
You are a cry baby. Wo spilled your cheerios?
>>29466110
>implying I'm wrong
There are a handful of one's that are respectable and do deserve recognition but a majority are just handouts like participation trophies. If you look back at the world wars most people only had a handful of ribbons, now they honestly mean nothing.
>>29466044
Lots of jobs in the military aren't miserable, and some have better job prospects than Nuke. Nukes have some of the worst quality of life in the Navy.
>>29466110
cheerios taste like shit
>>29465995
But marksman ribbon
>>29466044
There are countless macros and screen shots that I don't have, but I'll summarize the best I can. Tech school is literally being stuck for weeks on end in bright fluorescent class rooms constantly learning and studying the intricacies of nuclear physics and power plant operation. Once in the fleet you are on the bottom of the totem poll, even though you have an important job. You will be dangerously over worked and under appreciated for the entire time of your service, assuming you don't an hero or suffer a psycho breakdown which occurs at an alarmingly higher rate among nukes. As one nuke put it only those with a special kind of autism makes it, and the other nukes that have been here all say your soul isn't worth the money.
>>29466250
Rate and TIS?
>>29465902
Pretty sure 48g has never been anywhere or done anything. It is pretty pointless trying to explain anything to him since he'll just ignore your post, likely due to feeling embarrassed.
>>29466674
CTN2, coming up on 5 years.
>>29466599
Welcome to every tech job in the military. Nukes aren't special.
>>29465902
GRF: Global Respones Force.
>>29466591
>>29465995
It's a badge, not a ribbon. It's also a requirement as per your normal qualifications, so you are getting a shooting badge no matter what. And marksman is the lowest qual you can receive.
Honestly, it doesn't really matter for somebody right out of training what their qual is, it only affects promotion points or if you want to switch to a recon platoon (which as a new guy you will be denied). Your badge level changes every time you re-qual anyway.
>>29466743
It matters if you don't want to go to the ball wearing a pizza box.
>>29466723
That' a bit lame,
>enlisted men
what kind of life did i sign up for /k/?
>>29466846
Be more vague you fucking idiot. I'll chokefuck you.
>>29466864
Great Mistakes, IL
>>29466702
Most tech jobs in the military have decent accommodations (AC, office environments) and not overly long/arduous hours.
Will my drill sergeant scuff up my J's if i bring them to basic?
im going nuke
>>29467294
Thank you for your sacrifice
>>29466955
I'm talking about being overworked and under-appreciated.
I think it is even worse in the Marine Corps due to the promotion system. You not only have a mission critical job, but you have to run faster and shoot better than 99% of the Marine Corps just to be considered on the same level as your peers in other jobs.
There is a reason why 59xx retention is like 5% or whatever hilarious number it is at now.
>>29465902
QRF is nothing like those others though
>>29464655
Highly doubt you'll see any action unless we go fight ISIS head on
>>29467417
>>29465902
When I was in qrf wasn't some formal thing. It was just people who were assigned to run to the berm when we were being attacked.
>>29467456
Whenever we were on it we would hop in the vehicles and run out to save some lame ass NG convoy
>>29467456
>>29467417
There's deployed QRF and there is a strategic assignment that uses the QRF name. Two very different things, but they use the same name.
>>29465756
Would I deploy at all to non combat zones?
>>29467476
Depends on the unit you're in
Do you call it a "deployment" even if it's somewhere like Europe or Japan? Or is "deployment" reserved for places with actual fighting?
>>29467544
They do sometimes. They shouldn't tho.
>>29467475
So what is "deployed qrf?"
>>29467576
Basically you're on call in case some convoy/patrol gets into heavy contact or the fob gets attacked.
Usually rolling out of the gate within 10 minutes of the call
>>29467576
Deployed QRF = Everyone is already deployed, you're a small element tasked with being able to throw your shoes on and get out the door to the fight in a few minutes.
Global QRF = Large stateside element (like a BDE) tasked with being able to deploy an entire fighting force to a hotspot in the globe within a day or two.
Same concept, vastly different scales.
>>29467599
The only time I was on a fob was in Kandahar in 04, so I assume the Army convoys were the Army's responsibility; maybe "deployed qrf" was a thing when I was in also.
>We have janitors that think people are enlisting at 15, not "15Y" being a MOS
kek
>>29468477
Holy kek.
>>29468477
Hahaha
>>29442505
One more ask. Anyone know if 'Environmental Engineer' is just a janitor with a fancy sounding title?
Anyone have experience with MRF Darwin?
Apparently going on a UDP sometime in the future.
>>29467294
Me too, ignore the memes, it's not as bad as some people make it out to be as long as you did your research and know what you signed up for.
Wow you guys fucking lied to me
Being in the military SUCKs
>>29468645
We never promised you a rose garden.
Shut up and go clean the common areas now, boot.
>>29468477
Holy kek. That's amazing.
>>29468645
What branch/MOS?
>>29467078
All civilian clothes/items are put into a duffle bag and thrown into a closet. You might get them back for AIT
>>29465435
Any Geospatial engineer in here?
>>29468477
>/k/ confirmed for worst janitors.
I think I might have to complain to mook, that's just sad.
>>29466102
But it obviously has "tits". Look for yourself.
>>29469928
Those are pecs.
>>29468477
I remember getting a three month ban for posting pictures I took of a lightning 2 on public a factory tour. People kept saying "delete this secret shit before the nsa looks at this thread."
The mods here are fucking dumb.
>>29469899
I don't know, /a/ got newfag janitors that had clearly never been on /a/ before a few months back during nipplegate. It was so bad that Hirohito stepped in and asked the board how to make sure it didn't happen again.
>>29469928
>>29469938
Not to mention the antlers and obvious beard that would be downplayed if it was trying to be a trap. It's just regular gay.
I ship out to boot camp in a month.
I'm a /fit/izen who enjoys the gym.
Should I be lifting this next month? Or should I just stick to cardio/bodyweight shit?
I hear I'm just gonna lose my gainz at boot camp, anyways.
>>29468645
>>29468645
Just remember
>the benefits and pay
>what you're actually doing by serving your nation
>>29470253
And not to mention the best of all
>Not having to deal with this fucking job market
>Getting preferential treatment in this fucking job market when you get out.
>>29465902
Once the wars were in progress, the 82nd was still responsible for that 18 hour airborne response mission, which kept one of their brigades out of the fight.
>>29470214
Cardio and bodyweight stuff will be the most relevant. If you're already in even mediocre shape, it probably doesn't matter what you do.
You can try and maintain during basic so long as you're creative about the lack of equipment. My battlebuddy would do handstand pushups against a wall locker at night, pullups on the door frame of the latrine, dips on the edge of a bunk, etc. Depending on your branch and unit, there may be kettle bells and the like available.
It's not the best, but it's better than only doing the mandatory PT stuff, which is varying levels of not challenging depending on your branch of service.
>>29470214
Navy? Marine Corps?
If Marine Corps then you should be okay so long as you are good with your pull ups. You'll be doing a couple circuit courses with weights but all those muscle groups will get covered by pull/chin ups.
>>29470447
Navy.
Hey guys, good news.
We're going to war with North Korea!
You wont have to worry about anything disqualifying you from here on out
>>29470414
Not him but i was wondering if there is usually a gym on base, also how does owning guns while in the military work? Can you shoot in your free time?
>>29471126
My body is ready.
>>29471052
lol youll be fine with whatever you do
>>29462224
Hey guys, I want to join Army national guard to pay for college and to serve country, have a couple questions. If I go to out of state college, will the government pay for that school if I join the national guard of the state where the college is located? If everyone in the national guard is part time, who the fuck guards the bases and stays there? Who defends cities as riot guard? Military police or Infantry? What do Military Police do in National Guard? Also, I really want to join for good memories and shit, and if theres a war or something and if I live to be 70 I want to look back at me in those vintage war photos. I know that sounds gay and shit, but it would be cool. Anyway, thanks to whoever wants to answer.
>>29471209
Usually multiple gyms on any post.
You can't have guns in barracks on post, you have to store them in your unit arms room or off post. You can shoot in your free time. Some posts have ranges on post that you can shoot private weapons on.
>>29471209
Usually multiple gyms on large based, always at least one.
If you have guns and live in the barracks, they go in the arms room or off-post storage. If you live off post it's just normal laws for your area.
>>29471281
Part time units usually have an Armory with a couple full time personnel. If there's an active duty post nearby then they'll just use a building on the post so they don't have to guard it.
The other stuff you mentioned (riots/disasters)are temporary activations.
I want the federal government to decriminalize marijuana so I can join the military without lying
:*(
>>29472016
Even if the decriminalize or fully legalize it it doesn't mean the military will allow its members to.
>>29472016
Just because marijuana is decriminalized doesn't mean that the military would want or accept people who used it.
>>29472042
>even if it's fully legalized it doesn't mean the military will allow its members to
Literally why wouldn't they? What's the difference between an off-duty soldier drinking and an off-duty soldier smoking?
Oh, wait, I can name at least one difference: The one smoking is less likely to go out and rape a local.
>>29472064
You can either stop smoking and wait till it is all out of your system and join the military, or you can accept that they dont want people who smoke weed and stay where you are and keep smoking to your hearts content. That is just the way it is.
>>29472064
"people who smoked cannabis four or more days of the week over many years ended up in a lower social class than their parents, with lower-paying, less skilled and less prestigious jobs than those who were not regular cannabis smokers. These regular and persistent users also experienced more financial, work-related and relationship difficulties, which worsened as the number of years of regular cannabis use progressed."
“Our study found that regular cannabis users experienced downward social mobility and more financial problems such as troubles with debt and cash flow than those who did not report such persistent use,” she said. “Regular long-term users also had more antisocial behaviors at work, such as stealing money or lying to get a job, and experienced more relationship problems, such as intimate partner violence and controlling abuse.”
"While both heavy alcohol and cannabis use were similarly associated with declines in social class, antisocial behaviors in the work place and relationship problems, the authors found that those dependent on cannabis experienced more financial difficulties, such as paying for basic living expenses and food, than those who were alcohol dependent."
http://cpx.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/03/16/2167702616630958.full.pdf?ijkey=PjD9gu0wSdxIDI9&keytype=finitel
>>29472064
Because it's the military and they can tell you what the fuck their members can and cannot fucking do. If the Top Brass don't want their men and women to light up, then they will not allow it, and there is reason for it.
You would have to be retarded to think allowing marijuana is going to fix even one of the Militarys current issues.
I don't get how troops travel in the military, I hear of people going to Germany, Korea, Japan, other places but how does that work? I plan on joining the army and would like to travel as much as possible.
>>29472138
>people addicted to drugs are scumbags
STOP THE PRESSES!
>>29472130
I'm not the dude who posted, I quit as soon as I enrolled in the DEP. Best decision I ever made.
All I'm saying is, there's no logic behind them keeping weed banned if it's legalized.
>>29472187
PCS moves
If you want to travel the world the army is the wrong branch for you.
>>29472199
There is no reason to unban it, and they already have to deal with people drinking so it makes no sense to ad in another problem.
>>29472064
One issue is that there isn't anything as reliable as the breathalyzer paradigm when it comes to marijuana. There's not a good way to quickly and effectively test if you've used marijuana within the last few hours. A piss test takes quite a while to come back and wouldn't really help determine if you were still impaired or simply smoked last weekend.
>>29472208
Where would I go in the army?
Can you join the military if you have poor vision?
I'm nearsighted (can only see clearly for like 5~ inches in front of me).
I know someone who was former military that had even worse vision than that though.
>>29472241
What is it correctable to?
>>29472236
Most people who join the Army spend most of their career at one of a few giant stateside posts. A few will get to go to Korea/Hawaii, even fewer might get to go to Germany or Italy.
The Army, as a whole, does not do a lot of travel. Expect to see such great locales as "the middle of nowhere, Georgia", "the middle of nowhere, Texas", and everyone's favorite, "the middle of nowhere, Kansas".
>>29472262
Ah, thanks.
What should I join of I just wanna travel around and shoot rag heads?
>>29472364
Pretty much nobody is shooting ragheads right now. If you want to travel join a seagoing rate in the Navy or an Air Force AFSC that flies a lot.
>>29472138
But I'm someone (I made the comment about decriminalizing marijuana) who has NOT smoked habitually. I would say I only smoked a couple of times per month throughout highschool and quit after I graduated.
And even still, I would have to lie about how many times I smoked or lie about smoking in the first place just to get into the military.
Weed is NOT a big deal unless you smoke an obscene amount, i.e daily.
>>29472395
You wouldn't have to lie, you'd just have to get a waiver. The likelihood of getting that waiver depends on how badly they need people at the time.
>>29472392
Different anon here, but how true is this >>29468820 ? Half the reason I want to join the Navy is for the travel, but I want to actually see things, even if it's just a week at port.
>>29472537
You will definitely see more of the world if you actually deploy in the Navy. Just make sure you pick a rate that actually goes to sea.
There's a risk that you end up spending most of your contract assigned to a vessel that is under maintenance though.
Honestly, the best way to see the world regardless of branch is to save your money and use some of your 30 days of leave to go vacation somewhere. You might even be able to get a free flight with Space-A travel.
>>29471126
Hope I get to learn Korean so I can psychically/digitally kick Pyongyang in the balls.
>Failed ranger school because i couldn't grow a beard
>>29472970
oh fuck I'm screwed
>>29473006
Just believe in yourself
>>29472970
is that really a thing? what the fuck?
Anybody here a recruiter?
So I'm thinking about leaving USAR and going active duty after my deployment in 2017. I'll probably still be an E4 but I'll be very close to making E5.
1) Could I go active duty without any issues if I start the process while as an E4
2) Would I be allowed to see my likely duty station before fully committing? Basically I have a few places in mind but if I don't get one of them, I don't want to go active.
>>29474334
1) No, you have to get a conditional release from your USAR unit, then talk to an active duty recruiter about getting into one of the few MOSs that allow prior service.
2) Best they're going to be able to do is see where students in that MOS are currently projected to go after AIT. That could completely change by the time you graduate. Unless you're going into an MOS with an extremely small pool of possible assignment locations, you probably won't have any idea where you're going to end up.
inb4 you are a massive weeb and want to go active duty just so you can get stationed in Japan.
>>29474393
I've expressed interest in it to my unit and they've basically told me if I ever made that decision, they'd do everything in their power to make it happen. Thanks for the info, it sounds like too much work anyways. I suppose that line of thinking is what landed me in USAR anyways
>inb4 you are a massive weeb and want to go active duty just so you can get stationed in Japan.
Well more like Alaska
But god damn I'd jump at Japan in a heartbeat
As a red-green color blind person, would I be barred from all infantry in Marines and Army
What about special forces positions like the seals...
thanks in advance
>>29472364
Thank you friend
When do you guys think the next war will be. I wanna fight and die for something.
Nuke sub volunteer reporting in.
>>29472364
A server.
>>29475281
You're fucked and all infantry and special forces positions are closed to you. Sorry m8.
>>29475281
You can drive a fuel truck.
>>29475637
>wanting to die
Don't join the military. There's enough problems with suicidal dumbfucks already.
>>29472364
>I just wanna travel around and shoot rag heads
You know, the military doesn't actually want guys who think like this. Also, they don't accept 14 year olds.
What's up MEG
Currently on family day for the 9 week mark of my basic training
>came into basic 11x op40
>dodge bullet and end up 11b
>get offered SF contract last week because 300 pt score and 125 GT score
>take SF over op40
Life is good.
So when did /k/ turn into a recruiting board?
When they banned talking about gun politics?
Would I actually be able to fly a real plane if I were to join the airforce?
this influx of autists tryhards into our current military is surely some old school KGB tactic to make our standing army a bunch of sperglords.
You reap what you sow.
Is sat op/mait a good MOS?
>Dad was 20 years Air Force
>lived just off base for my childhood
>know people in all of the service branches
>Air Force seemed like the best one to go into
>Start doing research on various AFSCs
>Get interested in STO/CCT type stuff
>Their training seems cool, but their mission stuff (battlefield aircraft control) isn't all that interesting to me
>Check out comparable MOS/Rates
>Read up on what Army Special Forces actually does outside of CIF teams
>Realize that their missions appeal to me more than AFSOC missions
>But I'd be stuck in the fucking Army
Since I can't find Ja Rule, can MEG make sense of the distinction for me? I know that there aren't a lot of Special Tactics people around. Am I overthinking all of this?
>>29477312
Nah, it's just that the modern military is shifting more towards desk/computer jobs over alphamale infantry. That means less Chads and more world-class autists.
>>29478066
Don't worry anon, no matter which SOF pipeline you attempt I'm sure you will fail. Why stress about it?
>>29477291
I've been seeing these for about two years now. Not sure when it started.
>>29477312
>>29478177
It has always been this way. These types of people are drawn to the military.
If you didn't already know that then I'd have to assume that you have never served or you're about 14 years old.
What's the name of that British ? revolver with a blowback system
Join the Air force lads.
>>29478615
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/early-automatic-pistols/webley-fosbery/
>>29478641
Any tips you can give to a weak fag who is planning on signing up?
>>29478615
>>29478661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-UCHsyTh4
Just told my dad I want to join the Army instead of Air Force:
>what the fuck?!
>are you retarded?
>because the people you'll be around in the Army are!
>too many niggers!
>they treat you like shit compared to AF
>you're too smart for the Army
What do? He mad
>>29478712
Do you really want to listen to a bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet over your flesh and blood?
Don't be a moron. Join the Air Force.
>>29478712
I'm the anon trying to decide if I want to try Special Tactics or Special Forces. My father, too, would flip his shit.
>>29478728
As much as I respect my father, the Air Force is not for me.
It's always been Army for me, ever since I was really young.
>>29478758
Do not disappoint your father. Try it. Who knows, maybe you'll realize he had the right idea all along.
>>29478758
What has you sold on the Army?
>>29478758
its your life not your cuck father
do what you think is right for you
make your own mistakes if anything
>>29478758
>army
Unless you want a combat MOS in peacetime join the AF, just not maintenance unless you want to work 12 hour shifts and weekends. The AF treats their people better and all my buddies in the army say hate it. But ultimately it is your choice, the military is gonna suck no matter what, might as well have it suck less right?
t. Avionics tech in the USAF
How hard is DLI really? Does it largely depend on the language you get?
>>29479094
It's mostly having good study habits. A lot of "smart" people new to the military coasted through High School and never learned how to study.
>>29478712
Army here, don't get me wrong, I love the Army but the entire time I was in OSUT I was saying "damn, I should have joined the air force "
>>29462224
I got a 92 on the ASVAB and signed up as 11C split option and I go to BCT May 31st. How fucked am I?
>>29480051
Forgot to mention I'm going NG
Are there any other people from Africa that have served in their nation's military?
It's a free ticket to America
>>29480138
My African friend just got into the MAVNI program. It's great for Africans, but I notice that most Chinese except a few who are... suspect, think that they're too good to join the military.
I just joined the army as 68w even got airborne, what are my chances of being deployed? I go to basic in august
Leaving for navy bootcamp in like 8 days now. Any last minute things I should be aware of? from what I've gathered if you dont be a sperglord
and do what you're told you'll be fine.
How how are A Schools? Is it the same as usually Navy life or are you still restricted? My recruiter just said "it depends" Rate is BU incase that matters
alright /meg/, going to tell my recruiter I'm holding out for 13F option 40 or I walk
let's hope he's not an ass
>>29480051
>>29480067
>NG
youll be fine
>>29480269
Not leaving for a another month but all I heard was to not bother bringing anything because it'll all be sent back at your expense, and be prepared to do a bunch of inane bullshit for a while.
I really hope someone can answer this:
I was recently told by a former active duty now reservist Army Sergeant that it would be better to go enlisted reserves instead of officer after I graduate for the security clearance and more hands on training as opposed to being "an administrator" as he called being an officer.
Is there any merit to this, he said Beltway Bandit contractors pay enlisted guys way more. I don't fucking know anymore.
>>29480669
It's mostly a lie. Also officers get security clearances too, wtf.
>>29480558
Good like finding a slot
>>29480708
luck*
>>29480708
I've got nothing but time
>>29480699
He's not saying they don't get clearance he was just saying that companies like BAE, Booz Allen, etc much prefer the hands on training the enlisted guys get.
He could be way off base considering he's an enlisted guy himself. I really don't know that's why I thought I would ask.
>>29470214
I'm kinda a fat body and lazy.
I used to run and lift but I got kick out and lost the weights, wanna get back to it, should I just go cardio I wanted to join 11b or 12b something that would get me deployed somewhere in active duty.
>>29480794
The guy is either trying to sabotage you due to jealousy or is a complete moron who has drank the nco kool aid.
>>29482010
This. I've met a fuckton of salty enlisted faggots who don't want anyone to become an officer or go to a branch of service that treats them better. Bucket of crabs mother fuckers.
>>29482673
Yep
Tons of buttmad armyfags here who get mad as fuck when people even ask a question about the Air Force or Navy... and you better not be a 21 year old college grad asking about commissioning, you'll get nothing but troll responses from the crab people.
>>29480669
While I'm totally willing to believe that he was just buttmad and trolling you, he has a legitimate point depending on your goals.
If you're going reserves to pick up clearance and a little experience for a DOD contracting job, enlisting is definitely the better option. You can guarantee something like MI w/ a good clearance, unlike commissioning and getting your job picked for you (possibly only with a Secret).
Yes, officers get paid a lot better...but since you're only getting paid a couple of days a month the difference isn't going to be nearly as drastic as Active Duty.
Hey /k/. I got a buddy of mine who lied on his at MEPS saying that he didn't ever have asthma even though he did from 10-13, he's a DEP for Airforce.
What can I tell him to calm down? Should he be worried?
>>29483312
>on his at
at*
>>29483312
>>29483323
Depends on his clearance level, but he should be fine. Worst case scenario he is questioned on it, claims that he did not recall at all at the time of enlisting, and gets a waiver because it was misdiagnosed.
I've seen worse get TS clearance.
>>29483349
thanks m8, calling him a spaz and a faggort who needs to chill wasn't working
Shipping out in 2 months, will I be able find a qt trap to be my gf in the Navy?
>preparing to join the military
> week 5 of c25k
>hurt my knee running
> today is day 2 of week 5
>knee still hurts
should I risk it and run or will there be a big chance of damaging my knee even further? What to do?
>>29483889
Lay up for 2-3 days. If it still hurts after that consult a doctor. If not, enjoy the day of fresh legs and the added ouch that comes after taking a few days off.
>>29483889
Take a break. Restart week 5 when your knee feels better.
>>29483889
Hold off. A temporary setback is preferable to a permanant continuous injury.
If you are itching for cardio, but your knee isn't up to it, do what you can with swimming or on a bike as an alternative.
How do you guys feel about redoing a week in couch 2 5k?
I just finished week 4 and the last day was pretty tough for me. I think I'd be better equipped for week 5 if I did week 4 one more time.
Related to running, how long/what distance/what speed should I be able to make training in navy basic a breeze? I know it's not very hard bit I'd like to be overly prepared.
>>29483889
Fucking told you that you shouldn't listen to these spergs telling you to run every day. You don't even run every day in Marine boot.
For your own sake, please stop this retarded shit and cut back to every other day so you don't end up in the broke dick platoon of whatever service you're joining. You're going to blow out your acl and get separated permanently.
>>29484124
I don't think you understand the c25k program
>>29484146
Apparently not, because what I see here
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml
is running every day.
Please, explain it to me. I'm always up for learning new effective workouts... but it sounds like it is a bad one since a fucking teenager hurt himself doing it.
>>29484124
c25k is 3 days a week
>>29483963
there is no shame in redoing a week to prepare for the next week. It's certainly better than doing a week you're unprepared for and failing.
