First Gun c308?
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So I've been eyeing the c308 for awhile, thinking of making it my first firearm. I've got a couple of informed friends who advise against it, both say to get an ar. While I agree that the ar is certainly a better gun, I can't help but feel like it's the gun everyone has, plus I'm a history buff and the cetme has a cooler story Imo. Is the cheap price and unique/cool factor strong selling points, or am I just being stubborn? Also, input on cetme/g3 type weapons or roller delay blowback in general
Century has spotty QC.
if you can handle it and check if everything is in order, sure. But I'd rather save an extra $200 and get the PTR.
>>29449008
Get a PTR.
My first gun was a PTR a few years ago. I'd recommend it, so long as you are concious of any flinching you may be doing. Buy a muzzle brake perhaps, and dry fire practice often. It is a good, simple gun that is easy to maintain, and is fairly foolproof. Ammo may be a bit expensive, as it's $.40+ a round.
I was kinda thinking I'd play around with the shitty century gun and change/upgrade parts as I got a feel for what I liked/didnt like, or as parts needed replacing. Is there a good market for cetme style parts?
>>29449008
7.62x51 battle rifle might not be the first gun, especially if you are comparing it to the generic 5.56 ARs.
Different guns but in the long run, get both. Start with AR/AK, cheaper ammo to plink around and you can ruin it with stupid mall ninja crap which you will want to do as newb.
After you have good amount of experience under your belt you can get the BR and have two good guns.
>>29449109
Not as good as the market for G3/HK91 parts. And the important parts are not really going to be fixed by swapping them out. You'll end up paying more going the piecemeal route than just purchasing a PTR for a bit more. If you can't save up enough to do that you may want to wait to join the shooting community.
OP if you like the G3 aesthetics and ergos + want that unique showflake assault rifle you could entertain the thought of V93.
Essentially 5.56 G3.
https://youtu.be/Hn4I7-ElsYY
>>29449008
C308 owner here
If you get lucky, they're decent rifles. But a PTR gives you so much more for the extra $200 such as more compatibility with surplus G3 parts, lifetime warranty on internal parts, and generally higher build quality.
But honestly, your first rifle should be an AR. Huge after-market and cheap to shoot.
>>29449109
>I was kinda thinking I'd play around with the shitty century gun and change/upgrade parts as I got a feel for what I liked/didnt like
Yeah, there's a part called the ptr91 that makes your cetme a completely different gun. Tad spendy but it's worth the upgrade
>>29449056
>Get a PTR.
>>29449252
>FAL fags still buttmad
>>29449252
>not even a ptr
>>29449008
You sbould not. Get a PTR instead and thank yourself later.
>>29449008
Try this at a gunrange if you can...
PTR GI R .308 Battle Rifle, $899.00. Now with Paddle Magazine Release and 5/8x24 Barrel Threading!
PTR 91 GI R Package Atlantic Firearms Exclusive Offer, .308 semi auto rifle. These are PTR's economical alternative to their Precision Target rifles, The PTR GI R features a 18" match grade threaded barrel with removable flash hider and now 5/8x24 thread pattern for wider variety of muzzle accessory options. Optic Rail allowing you to easily add your favorite Optic . These barrels are built with the proper Fluting and will work with the wide variety of .308 ammo on the market today. Comes with parkerized gray finish , green furniture, Welded top accessory rail and Includes 1 - 20 round magazine. More available on page.
( http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ptr-gi-r-308-rifle-paddle-mag-release-detail.html?Itemid=0 )
18" match grade barrel
Chambered for .308 or 7.62 NATO caliber
Rate of twist: 1 in 10
5/8x24 barrel threading for attachments (flash hider, compensator etc.)
Original G3 “stepped” barrel profile
Paddle Mag Release
Magazines will be Original Surplus rated very good or better.
As of 12/15/15 New 5/8x24 Thread Pattern and Paddle Mag release
As of 2/23/2016 Lower trigger pack will be the metal style lower.
>>29449311
>paddle mag release
This should be selling point #1.
>>29449264
>PTRfags when
>>29449252
needs anti-walk pins and loctite
>>29449334
Seriously. I have no trouble reaching the button on my 2014 model with my trigger finger, but damn it would be nice, as would the welded rail. Wonder if I could send my rifle in to get updated.
>>29449334
Do you think >>29449311 is any good for a newbie? I don't know much about guns.
>>29449336
>FALs still staying obsolete
Meanwhile G3s are being fondled by blonde qt3.14s as we speak in numerous 1st world countries.
>>29449382
>Meanwhile G3s are being fondled by blonde qt3.14s as we speak in numerous 1st world countries.
LOL OK.
Alright, ptr seems like the consensus. I'll go for that, then. Thanks for the advice. That g33 clone is really baller, too. I'll definitely look into that as a second rifle
>>29449382
>>29449411
>>29449407
>>29449008
It's not exactly what could be called an ideal first gun, but if it's what your heart is yearning for then why deny yourself and get an AR or AK? Buy ammo in bulk online or that cheap 7.62 ZQI puts out at Wally World, watch out for flinching due to the bigger round's recoil, and have a fun show of it.
But keep getting a .22 on the backburner--still can't be beat when it comes to plinking or general practice. Buds sells Polish Wz 48 single shot training rifles for a little under 2 C-bills, and the Marlin 60/Ruger 10/22 are perennial favorites.
>>29449362
new to guns in general?
not really, but not because of any particular failings in the gun, but more because a .308 battle rifle is not an ideal first gun
Do not buy
>https://www.full30.com/video/4bc8aa1c81d93c193532015751c91b9c
>lists off all the shit that broke
>>29449426
Walmart doesn't sell that stuff anymore and it's sold out just about everywhere online too.
>tfw it sells out before I was about to buy 500 rounds
>>29449437
>>29449446
>was about to tell you you're stupid
>checked online
>sold out
Fuck
At least my walmart still stocks it
Ask the manager if he'll do it
Sometimes a walmart will do it if you ask
>surprisingly
Be sure to test fire it first.
Personally, I don't like the recoil of a roller locked battle rifle. It feels wrong somehow compared to long stroke & short stroke rifles?
>>29449468
Already tried. Both Walmarts I regularly go to stopped carrying it and getting new shipments altogether.
I contacted SGammo yesterday to see when they would be getting more and they said replacement cost at the moment sucks ass so they're waiting until they can get a good deal on it again.
>>29449431
>slam fire
Are you fucking kidding me?
>firing pin broke in under 100 rounds
kek
>charging handle latch thingamajig broke
KEK
>trigger is dogshit
Go figure, its a Cetme
5/5 Century
5/5
>>29449488
they seriously need to stop being jews
I'd be willing to pay up to $12 a box because NO ONE can compete at that price except steel case shit
And often times BRs can't handle steel case
>>29449426
Oh, I've got a little semiauto .22 plinker that was a hand me down from my grandpa. Used to go out and shoot pennies with my friends all the time. I'm just tired of showing up at the range with just the .22, even though that's what we all end up shooting the most.
>>29449446
>>29449468
It always did have a propensity to sell out as soon as it hit the shelves--then again, what is the next cheapest brass case option? PPU? Hirtenberger?
>>29449500
I feed my PTR almost exclusively Wolf steel case. It loves the stuff, no fucks given.
>>29449311
As far as I can tell Atlantic Firearms has two other exclusive full-sized PTR G3 exclusive models: PTR A3R and PTR A3S. The A3R costs more and has a wider "handle" while the A3S is slimmer and costs less. The PTR website does not list the PTR GI R as an Atlantic exclusive but Atlantic's website does. It seems PTR also has a BUNCH of ".308 pistols" that are exclusive to them. Video related; two of the battle rifle. Pic related; one if the "pistols" mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=75&v=1RNFU7zrpwE
>>29449509
FALs have to have the gas turned up for better extraction and I've seen the cases crack in PTRs and it was a fuckfest getting it out
Not saying it doesn't work, just saying brass is better
>>29449407
>Alright, ptr seems like the consensus. I'll go for that, then.
Anon you're a young man; don't do it!
>>29449252
That's not a PTR doe...
>>29449556
Yeah the cracked cases stem from chamber pressure issues. The fluting in most current PTRs prevents this.
>>29449427
Is it not ideal simply because of the recoil or is it just awkward to learn such an awkward design?
>>29449578
The recoil is strong, but manageable. That is the biggest issue. Otherwise it is very simple to operate.
>>29449567
Better being a neckbear than a raging trap twink.
>>29449578
recoil and how expensive it is to practice lots with.
It's much easier to buy 1000 cheap practice rounds for a few range days with other calibers.
>>29449575
I mean the case cracked and got stuck in the flutes, m8
>>29449500
If they don't come back in stock by mid-summer, I just have to buy some bulk cheap Russian ammo instead.
>>29449599
I know. The flutes were different a while ago. It's been fixed.
>>29449578
expensive to shoot and you may develop a flinch
>>29449539
neat vid.
>>29449539
Just to be clear, all you need to do to put a stock on that is swap out the back plate for one with a stock right?
And of course the $200 tax stamp.
>>29449659
You got it.
>>29449311
3k round review of that exact rifle w/ some mods:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=Nh0g-Lr4Jno
>>29449675
>optics
>mods
>>29449692
>autism
>semi-auto .308 as first gun
Is it comparable to getting a 1000cc sportsbike as your first motorcycle?
>>29449720
no, calling everything a mod is autism, anon
>>29449847
Loosely. I'd call it a trial by fire.
>>29449675
>had to replace the barrel right out of the box
If you are serious about getting real fucking NATO for your first gun, get the PTR. since it's ur first gun if it gives u trouble you'll be frustrated. PTR will take care of you. if u get lucky with the c308 then thats what you'll have, but it's a lot harder to upgrade than a PTR.
>>29449109
While it has a cetme bolt it takes G3 furniture with no fitting. Protip from a C308 owner. I love mine. Reliable as hell.
>>29449235
What parts are more compatible exactly? All the surplus G3 stuff went on just fine for me.
>>29449334
I've got no issues reaching the button without adjusting my grip on the c308.
>>29449008
Honestly OP .308 is not a good first caliber. I would get an AR or hk93 clone. 5.56 is cheap, plentiful, and good to get the basics down with. You'll be wasting alot of ammo until you figure out how to shoot properly.
I have a C308 and I love it for what it is. But PTR has a better warranty, they are a good degree more accurate too. I bought mine as a toy and excuse to buy more milsurp.
>>29449008
avoid the g3 clone meme
>>29450401
>being a transsexual fal-nog
>>29450268
I'm not a new shooter, just new to buying a gun. Ive got a hand me down .22 that intake with my two buds when we go shooting. They both have ars, so I've shot a fair bit with though, plus a k98 I was hoping my dad was going to pass down to me this year. The 93 clone is a good idea, though.
>>29450815
There is also PTR32. 7.62x39 and takes AK mags.
STANAG PTR aka G41 clone when?
Only downside to HK33 clones if you like them I can think of is the magazines which are unique to them, but stock mags are 40 round.
PTR 32 discussion when?
The AK mag look grows on you.
>>29450949
When it stops being the size of the 91 without the stopping power.
>captcha: 223
>>29451057
The point of the rifle is to look and handle like a full size 91 but be cheaper to shoot.
>>29451126
The point of the rifle is to clone the HK32, which it does in caliber only.
>>29450815
Oh okay. Well if you have the basics down. And get a good C308 it'll be a good 300 yd gun. However if you buy a PTR91 and spend some extra money accurizing you'll have a decent 600yd gun.
>>29449595
>trigger discipline
>glorious roller delayed blowback
would guerrilla with
>>29449008
C308 is literal garbage. Why would you want a PTR receiver that Century shit on to fit CETME parts? It's the worst of both worlds.
>>29450401
Fuck off you WEEABOO FAGGOT literally everyone hates you
>>29455660
put your trip back on sakuya
>>29455904
Not sakuya
