Will soldiers use full body armor like this in the future? Why or why not?
They practically already do.
>>29448436
>plate carrier + helmet
>full body armor
No. The direction personal protection is going is less is more. 40 years ago it was full nylon smocks, 30 it was nylon vests, then it was big fabric vests with plates, then it was Kevlar vests with plates, then it was tight waistcoats with plates and now its just plate carriers. Then next iteration would predictably be plates with pouches molded into them or something, but that would be a step back desu. Those bracers and hand armor don't do shit and nobody would wear them, the shoulders make sense but are huge so people would ditch them too at first opportunity.
>>29448428
Not until they become lightweight and inexpensive enough to be practical while also being able to stop rifle fire and somehow not losing any situational awareness or ventalation from a full face helmet.
>>29448449
only plebeian "operators" pack a mere platecarrier these days. That shit wasn't even allowed by most units just few years ago.
The "hey, I at least want to die comfortably!" mentality is literal cancer.
Ironically, it's the cops that pack more armor these days than most soldiers.
>>29448681
mmkay.
>>29448689
I would too when cracking rioters skulls.
They are not ballisticly rated btw, sans the chest. More for impacts.
Canadians are planning to adopt this kind of ballistic visor including helmets for their troops soon. So, we're getting there.
>>29448704
Nope, that's all Level IIIa kevlar, mate.
There's also a point-man version, which has Lv3 hard plates on each section of the body
>>29448689
That armor provides less protection against the primary threats a soldier faces due to needing to stop knives and blunt objects. Most riot gear isn't even rated for bullets.
>>29448704
here's the first-man armor that has rifle-rated plates, everywhere.
>>29448728
like said above, that's a full kevlar armor. The parts on the limbs are not likely to stop rifle rounds, but against explosive frag and handgun rounds, the thing's a total baller. Vehicle gunners on the overseas operations have used such sets for over a decade already, usually with a face-shield.
>full face helmet
>not legion of American Empire
>>29448803
muh dick
>>29448727
It looks like that helmet will get stuffy pretty quick, is it well ventilated?
>>29448944
no idea, but the thing is modular, and the face mask can be both rised and taken off completely if necessary.
>>29448967
here's the set without jaw protection.
>>29448974
and finally some sort of a... "riot" option?
>>29448983
>>29448974
>>29448967
alright you made my dick hard, it would cum immediately if I see a legionnair version
>>29448428
If powered exoskeletons become advanced and cheap enough, sure, I don't see why you wouldn't slap a bunch of armor plating on it.
>>29449024
we're getting there.
>>29448803
That's so sexy it should be illegal
>>29449055
VASQUEZ WE NEED COVER FIRE!
>>29449071
Meanwhile in Russia...
>You see Vasili...
>You have to become the shield
>>29448967
>>29448974
>>29448803
holy shit dude why do they not make this standard issue??
>>29448681
Only MPs would use all that meme armor
>>29448681
The fact that someone took the time to paint those things in shitwater UCP
>>29448689
Cops get more mileage out of it.
They normally aren't up against heavy machine guns, enemy artillery, or huge infantry formations with tremendous amounts of saturation fire.
>>29450537
Because the people who make the military's gear charges the DoD a shit-ton for a product that should be half the actual cost.
>>29449090
What's russian for lel?
>>29448803
I wouldn't mind dying for Imperium, especially with God Emperor Trump getting elected
>>29448967
It makes me wonder, how does this thing work with NVGs or CBRN/NBC.
>>29448428
I wish I was doomguy
>>29450537
Couple reasons but mostly you're looking at a couple hundred dollars to sightly improve a soldier's chance of survival.
They only really apply if the enemy is shooting pistol grade rounds and they hit the face. Still, I'd tell soldiers to consider buying them if they're getting shot at a lot and want to preserve their beauty. Might also help with fragmentation.
>>29448428
>at least 250 pounds of armor
>plus like a hundred pounds of combat shit
>multi-mile patrols with 350+ pounds of shit on
yeah, no.
at least not until the armor is lightweight while being cheap or can help augment the weight of your gear. or we just use robots to carry our shit.
>>29452368
The suits we're talking about are powered mate.
>>29452387
creates another problem, having to charge it or using an expendable power source like in fallout.
could you imagine if your armor just fucking died while in combat?
>>29452387
>Powered suits
And you know what the brass are gonna say?
"Oh gee, they can carry even MORE stuff, so let's give them MORE stuff to carry!"
Then private poopdick has to hump a hippo's weight in crap he doesn't want or need.
>>29451106
English = lel
Russian = *proceeds to unzip dick and rape a white woman*
>>29450537
The Revision mounting brackets for Rhino arm mounts is standard-issue, at least with CA nasty girls.
That and there's no real justification to use the large face-guard unless you're a truck gunner, honestly.
>>29451048
The fuck are you talking about? All of them look like solid color black or green of some sort.
>>29448428
When the crusade have begun.
I know people are starting to hate Halofags now but ODSTS are the most viable future armor system.
>>29452410
How is this any different than running out of ammo or anything else?
>>29452574
I would kill so many Saracens to get a suit of this.
>>29452619
Maybe. We all have our likes.
>>29449024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Wbj1-pZcQ
>>29455294
I thought the Revision suit is supposed to have a spine to support the helmet? Or are those two bars wrapping around the mannequin's neck the "spine"? I would have imagined it to be something that sits just behind the neck.
![article-1252497-0862960B000005DC-61_468x631[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ury7CQP.jpg "article-1252497-0862960B000005DC-61_468x631[1].jpg")
>>29455337
With the 2 bars, theoretically it would never touch your neck and it would have a great range of motion than if it were a single bar going straight up from the spine. It's not embedded inside your body like your real spine, so the pressure from the helmet would always be tipping forward if it were a single bar in back. Surgical neck braces work in a similar sort of way to take the weight off your neck
>>29455294
Look at the guy to the left with the cock in his mouth.
I always think of this when these threads come up. How viable would something like this actually be?
Of course, how else will human infantry keep up with swarms of robot drones? need that power armor man.
>>29455835
Power storage tech needs to improve quite a bit to make it viable. 2800 watts isn't a hell of alot of range. You want it to last for years of daily use, and at least half the day.
>>29448681
>>29448727
>>29448803
>>29448967
>how do i cheekweld
>>29455810
If the spine was powered, then it will make sense to have a main anchor point on the rear in the form of a spine plus additional servos going around the neck to help stabilize it.
Such a setup may not be necessary until we arrive at a helmet that is too heavy and bulky to rely only on passive weight relief systems; that will be for substantially heavier power armor designs than Revision's concept. My primary concern is the mobility of the wearer and whether those two bars will restrict his neck movement.
>>29455835
The guys above you have posted a modern rendition of the concept. It's progressing but not as fast as we'd all like.
>>29455932
The current exos have the option of using JP8 turbines, those are efficient enough for a full day of use plus whatever extra fuel will be carried in the transport vehicles. If we were to dip into strategy discussion; keep in mind that having modern knights with full body armor could result in a shift of doctrine towards more aggressive infantry moves and less reliance on vehicular support. Patrols will always be patrols, but offensive actions may become short enough that the fuel supply will never be a problem.
>>29448703
>americans
>foreskin
>>29455945
Put pillow on stock
Stockweld
>>29455982
Oh really? I haven't done much reading on the topic. Not too enthusiastic about carrying a gallon of gasoline or diesel on my back if it isn't sufficiently armored, but yeah, the tactical advantages of an armored soldier that can take several rounds from an AK and keep going is mind boggling. We'd likely see a shift to high powered rifles in the field though. It also begs the question: how easy is it to disable the exosuit? If that happens the operator would be pretty much trapped in place until he could take the suit off.
>>29451106
лaл \ лeл
Choose one.
>>29455982
The spine isn't powered, it's pretty much a minimal neck brace
>>29452497
My sides
>>29452619
They did their research and based their designs off of actual military projects and real gear, it only makes sense the stuff that was concept art then will eventually go into production (20 years late)
>>29456189
Thank you!
>Not posting best armor
Its like you faggots want to die in most unaesthetic way possible
>>29448681
>plate carriers
>plebeian
Kill yourself.
>>29452410
>tfw when you're using pre-Fallout 4 power armor that still make's you practically bullet proof while having nigh unlimited power.
>>29456300
I should have worded it better. I know the current one seems to be unpowered, but if it was powered for the sake of supporting a really heavy helmet, a main spine to support its weight (along with the rest of the suit) might make sense.
>>29456083
I would assume that the gas tank would be placed behind the "backpack" armor. If we are talking about XSAPI plates, the chances of anyone with an intermediate rifle shooting a single plate enough times in the exact same spot is exceedingly low. Whoever wearing would essentially be near invulnerable to most contemporary infantry threats, with the biggest risk coming from anti-mat rifles and full-auto fire in close combat. Of course, we can go heavier than XSAPI if power sources continue to improve.
Being able to shrug off several hits of 7.62x39 to the head would be great for morale, I think.
>>29456621
I dunno man.
>>29448803
Is probably the most dick tingling thing I've seen in awhile when it comes to helmets.
But then again, Ave Caesar mother fucker.
>>29456621
Fuck off, you weenieneed.
![5046202-1406218275[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NK8kCtG.jpg "5046202-1406218275[1].jpg")
>>29456697
What's a weenieneed?
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/i6Xu739.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>29456759
Your mouth on it.
Git the fuck off my /k/, nv faggot.
>>29449090
Jesus Christ, imagine trying to operate a rifle while wearing that thing. Actually, imagine trying to do anything that requires your hands at all. What a fucking mess.
>>29456774
This.
Whatever objective improvements NV had to 3, it's still and unbearably ugly and unfitting western setting for a Fallout game. Not to mention how many unnecessary and illogical factions the game had.
>muh machete wielding monkeys conquering people with actual fire arms
>>29456996
>Fallout NV was an unfitting setting
Is....is this bait?
I mean, I prefer the setting of Fallout 3, but it was still a departure from the other games, NV is far closer to Fallout lore than 3 was.
I still prefer the city as a setting mind you, there weren't enough raiders etc in NV for my taste.
>>29452554
Its all there because we spent the last decade getting IED'd to fuck and we needed the face protection. Now we aren't there anymore but the kits just coming though.
Always equipped to fight the last war.
>>29456781
you're not supposed to carry a rifle while using the shield moron
>>29448983
Thats probably the "dont shatter your jaw if the LAV hits a bump" option
>>29449090
imagine a claustrophobic soldier using this
>>29457008
I don't care if NV is closer to the lore of the original Fallouts. New Vegas and especially the Strip were ugly.
>>29455945
Presumably by the time we have power suits worth using they have HUDs in the goggles so you don't need to use your sights to aim, or something.
>>29449055
Is this the new Mad Max movie?
>>29457502
Jesus Marcia, you do you mods are a thing.
wtf is with this name and site change shit
fuck you new 4chan owner
>>29456996
The character driven stories were better. But they basically recycled 90% of all the resources to deliver a map 1/3rd the size that was mostly empty, with no ruins to explore.
The DLC made up for vanilla though -but the overall aesthetic was just bad, 3 had a lot more in common with the original 3 as far as setting go, and the story branched off of Tactics, making their BoS not a bunch of hoarder shitheads.
Where as NV was a continuation of 2's story.
>>29455835
>exposed leg servos
NOTHING COULD GO WRONG
>>29455945
With a higher scope mount or a stock that's indented accordingly you mongoloid
>>29458421
>snipers might aim for the 1-inch diameter servo near the knee!
Rather a leg servo taking direct fire than someone's head or neck.
Also
>Exposed
>Covered in an inch of steel
>>29448727
I actually got issues one, there's a huge gap under where the neck is? Haven't actually used it on the job yep but the extra drag protection is pretty neat
>>29448967
Also this helmet is uncomfortable as fuck just in case anyone cares
>>29458790
How do you know?
>>29458342
Guess you dont know what day it is.
>>29448428
No
>cost
>high speed, low drag
>>29451129
I'm assuming you just wouldn't have the visor or add a mount to the visor
>>29455835
Designation: Liberty Prime. Mission: the liberation of Anchorage, Alaska.
