Is there a better defensive pistol than the 1911?
>>29443569
Desert Eagle .50 AE
>pic related
>>29443569
Not if you handle your 1911 the best.
>>29443569
Glock 40 by Problem Solver LLC
Yes
>>29443569
Yes, you faggot.
>>29443663
/r/ing the .45 version of this.
>>29443663
/r/ing gun-specific reasons for the guns being on this list
>>29443696
>Implying the 9mm isn't superior to 11.43x23 clowncar cartridge.
>>29443712
its BS
>>29443664
Don't hate what you can't afford
>>29443731
exactly
Unless you have 12+ rounds, 1911s are still capable of being outclassed
>nb4 shot placement
>2016
>implying that the inability to shoot straight doesn't obviously negate capacity
>12+ beats 7-8 every day
Sure Beretta Pico and the Colt Mustang... 9x17mm rounds are great for defense
>>29443720
Yeah yeah hurrhurr .45 suckz man.
>>29443616
Now I want A MGS3 movie made with all parts played by Tom Selleck
>>29443569
>jeff cooper
God this guy is such a fucking joke. I pray nobody actually listened to that retard.
>>29443842
Selleck's a little old for MGS3 era BB. He could maybe do end of MGS4 BB.
Yes. The Colt SAA.
>>29443720
>>29443741
>>29443866
Why? Give reasons supporting your opinion.
>Is there a better defensive pistol than the 1911?
Any of the dozens of double stack 9x19's on the market.
I love the 1911 as a historical piece. But that's what it is: a historical piece.
>>29443915
Why are they better? What makes them better?
The triggers and ergos are really the only thing the 1911 has over most modern service pistols...they're a horrible choice as an issue weapon these days, but still as viable a choice for individual users as anything else.
>>29443940
There is no statistically significant different difference in wounding ability between common handgun chamberings. You have to step up to something like .44 Magnum before you see any real affect.
The obvious logical choice is to choose whichever offers the highest capacity.
The 1911 only holds 7 rounds, which is completely laughable compared to modern offerings.
>>29444041
>There is no statistically significant different difference in wounding ability between common handgun chamberings
Says who? This assertion is counter-intuitive, as one would assume that larger bullets make larger holes in the target. If you want your audience to believe counter-intuitive assertions, you need to cite authoritative sources.
>>29443569
Yes. Many.
>>29443663
Is the USP not /k/ approved?
>>29444258
Name one and explain why it is better.
>>29443870
>>29443616
>tfw your dad looks like Tom Selleck
>>29443741
>12+ beats 7-8 every day
Not if you only need to fire 6 times.
>>29443616
Fun fact: My dad's ex girlfriend's dad was a fag in LA and really into the Hollywood scene. Tom Sellek is gay. When it was about to hit the media, he got married. I think Tom Cruise is gay, too, but I don't remember.
Another one of her relatives rode freight trains and lived with Charles Manson for a while.
Alright. So I bought this about two years ago and have been practicing with this. I've only lurked here so sorry if this comes out wrong. I live in a single story ranch and I feel like this does the job well. If anyone has a better suggestion I would love to hear it.
Its a Taurus 380 Revolver
>>29444221
http://soldiersystems.net/2014/09/25/fbi-9mm-justification-fbi-training-division/
>counter intuitive
Not if you know basic physics. Force = mass*acceleration
>>29444279
I was about to point out the same thing.
HK USP is god tier.
>>29444221
handguns suck shit at killing people
if they make it to a hospital thanks to crap shot placement 6/7 people shot survive
>>29444221
>as one would assume that larger bullets make larger holes in the target.
>I'm a retard who only thinks about entrance hole sizes
Oh what's the use, you're just a dumb fudd. If we see mass usage of laser firearms in our lifetime you will still probably be defending .45acp.
>>29444221
>Says who?
Every single study or statistical analysis ever conducted on the subject.
>one would assume that larger bullets make larger holes in the target
Yes, and? Humans aren't water balloons. Bleeding out is rarely what ends the threat. Sucking chest wound? Now that's more like it.
>If you want your audience to believe counter-intuitive assertions, you need to cite authoritative sources.
I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Just fucking google it, last time I checked the FBI published their findings when they announcd they were dropping .40 S&W.
>>29444446
Is this a serious post? Not only did you buy a REVOLVER, you bought a TAURUS revolver in .380. Imagine those numbers are capital so you can understand my WHY.
>>29444544
i mean. It isnt a bad weapon. i obviously havent had to use it but i am pretty good at the range and i think with home defense weapon that is all you can ask for
Personally for defense in a handgun situation i would have a 9x19mm HP or a .380 HP...and if you dont have HP make them HP...
I always thought it funny how people defend lower capacity guns by yelling about muh shot placement
>what is darkness
>what is moving targets
>what are obstacles
More capacity = more chances to hit your target
Worst case scenario, more shooting noises to keep their heads down
itt: mall ninjas who are mad they got conned into buying a cheaper product made of plastic instead of a true classic because that one time in Call of duty they used the 1911 and didn't deal enough DPS before having to reload.
>>29444593
>wanting to make sure your bullets hit the target is a bad thing, everyone should just spray and pray in the dark
You remind me of a pro-gun uncle joe.
>>29444221
>I know nothing about terminal ballistics: the post
Just 3d print a HC mag...-shrugs- Or hell.. better yet, design your own gun and have the parts milled out/printed...
>>29444666
>i read something and watched a youtube video once: the post
>>29444654
>implying I was advocating spray and pray
People miss sometimes when they shoot. Go ahead and prove me wrong.
>>29443636
>>29444544
>muh autoloaders
Revolvers are fine for purses and mai-first-gun, since there cheap, easy to understand, and durable enough for you to work out all the mistakes you're going to make, like forgetting to clean.
>.38
.45 to the knee < .38 to the chest, and since revolvers can't be forced out of battery by applying pinky finger pressure the muzzle, you can actually use the thing to fucking defend yourself properly.
.45 is for cardboard commandos that like to see the "biggar hoelz", without understanding algebra and the surface area of circles, and that about 80% of your profile is basically expendable dead space and extremities you're not going to be killed by a gunshot to, no matter the caliber of your pistol round, anyway. If anything 22 lr is ideal, because of unmatched controlability, and t5he highest capacity. If you doublestack 22lr, its still probably easier to CC than .45.
>>29444544
This guy probably doesn't own more than one or two guns
jeff cooper was such an ugly motherfucker
>>29444351
>Tom Sellek is gay
Fuck you.
>>29444279
Isn't the UPS .45?
>>29443569
>Do your hands work like normal person hands?
Then no not really. Somehow after 100 years people still can't angle the grip of a pistol.
>Are you in a situation where you'll need to kill like a dozen dudes but can't carry a long gun?
If so, you done fucked up. But you'll want to be fucking up with a double stack 9mm.
>>29444456
What force are you referring to? The force applied to the bullet or the force applied to the target?
>>29444490
Most ballistic gel I've seen shows 45 making a larger wound channel.
>>29444533
>I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Just fucking google it, last time I checked the FBI published their findings when they announcd they were dropping .40 S&W.
It's not my job to do research supporting your argument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVY1WzD9Tjw
>>29444593
If you can't see your target, it would be a violation of rule 4 to shoot it. Too many family members have died because someone shot at a shadow.
>>29444772
Because he was old. When he was young, he didn't look that bad.
>>29444814
What can brown do for you?
>>29444850
A dozen? How realistic is that?
>>29444867
>>What force are you referring to? The force applied to the bullet or the force applied to the target?
Are you actually retarded?
>>29444950
Not as retarded as mindlessly spewing something vaguely physics related.
t. another anon
>>29444923
I meant USP goddamn.
>>29444867
Don't shoot unless you see the whites of their eyes?
Noguns here, would a 1911 be a good first gun? Been thinking about getting my liscense.
>>29444304
No because you're not going to listen to objectivity. These threads are pointless.
>>29445102
Arguably. Heavy and a .45 so recoil isn't bad. Nice trigger. Ammo is more expensive. Pretty customizable. Fairly reliable.
I got a 1911 for my first and I regret nothing. You should try out a few guns in 9mm and .45 and see what you shoot best with and is comfortable. Don't get hung up on design so long as it is from a good company.
>>29444973
Pink does more than you think!
>>29443664
Not posting the best version. It's like you enjoy the taste of hobo cum in that filthy dumpster you call a mouth.
>>29444814
You can get it in 45, or 9mm
>>29443641
Oh please. Total joke. Hope youre serious.
>>29444577
>i am pretty good at the range
>i think with home defense weapon that is all you can ask for
you're either trolling or retarded
>>29444593
You're an idiot.
> inb4 citation needed
Personal experience. Don't reply, no need.
>>29443887
This time I have 12 shots.
>>29444446
My first gun was a .22 SAA clone that my dad got for like 80 bucks or something. Sold it for 250 at a gun show, and saved up to buy a 1911.
>>29444654
better to have and not need than need and not have faggot
>>29444351
Cool story bro.
>>29444867
>Most ballistic gel I've seen shows 45 making a larger wound channel.
Not enough to make a difference that matters.
