How come the commies never had any battle rifles? Is it because x54r is rimmed?
I want to sniff that lolis feet
Wot?
>>29443610
>select fire? no
>high capacity mag? no
>>29443424
>>29443782
AVS-36, the SKS's bigger, meaner brother. 15 rounds of 7.62x54R, semi or fully automatic.
>>29443424
the pkp uses x54r and it's a LMG so rimmed can't be the issue.
I think it's because the commies were faggots and never thought about it and were too busy dumping a third of their money into the typhoons to R&D one.
>>29443782
>AVT-40 is fully automatic
>dp28 used pancake mags and was full auto
your a troll this thread is bait.
>>29443849
>the pkp uses x54r and it's a LMG so rimmed can't be the issue.
>belt fed
holy shit i hope you aren't that stupid
>>29443436
>loli
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>29443424
The Jew and German brain drain after ww2 really stopped ruskie weapon advancements hence why they've been making AK's for the past 70~ years :^)
>>29443424
posting this as hard as I can
>>29443782
>it has to have a 420 clip and fully retarded
fuck off to /CoDg/ faggot
>BATTLE rifle
if it is Rifled and has been in BATTLE its a BATTLE rifle retard
>what is the Mosin
The assault rifles proved to be highly effective during the second world war and Russian designs were heavily influenced by the stg rifles which showed that an intermediate cartridge select fire rifles were more suitable to the modern battlefield that full power rifle cartridge battle rifles.
>>29444129
saved for future use.
>>29444306
forgot image
blame drugs
>>29444129
Tell that to the /brg folks. It's like saying. I carried my 91/30 while looking through binos.
>Hurr it's a scout rifle Guys
Just accept that people use generally accepted definitions for things that we all understand and fuck back off to your basement and piss bottles. Your just being a cunt anyways.
>>29444129
>I sHOt my gun.
> it IS my ShOtgun.
> is mosin.
Battle rifles didn't fit into Soviet infantry doctrine. They had designated marksman to fulfill their long range capabilities, we didn't.
>>29444129
>if it is Rifled and has been in BATTLE its a BATTLE rifle retard
oh lawd
>>29443424
They did, the AVS-36 and the SVT-40.
They weren't so good though, and the krauts were tracking in mud on the carpet, so they decided "Fuck it" and went back to nuggets, they'd figure out a new service rifle later, and by that time, assault rifles were becoming the hip new thing daddy-o.
>Is it because x54r is rimmed?
No.
>>29443436
She's roughly 18, she's hardly a loli.
>>29443782
Some would argue that a battle rifle doesn't even have to be self-loading, but typically, when people talk battle rifles, they mean a semi-auto or select-fire rifle in a full sized cartridge, regardless of if it takes detachable mags or has a high capacity.
With that definition, the Garand, SVT-40, Hakim and G41 were all battle rifles.
>>29445858
This too.
>>29444252
The 7.62x39mm, or the concept of it, was something that people had wanted to develop for some time, but was held back due to Stalin, who was all "Buh muh stoppan powah!", and it wasn't until late in the war that he gave in and were willing to allow trials for rifles that weren't in 7.62x54mmR, probably because even that idiot faggot would realize the importance of bridging the gap between the service rifle and the subgun, and how tremendously useful this is for city fighting.
Of course he probably had to see the SKS to understand that the 7.62x39mm is actually fully capable of wrecking someone's shit at the distances people actually fight at, and that the drop in range and power were very worthwhile trade-offs for low recoil and higher capacity, allowing easy follow-up shots and easy rapid fire.
>>29446280
>M14
>18years of age
She looks like it, but she ain't. Invention date and service life tells otherwise
"Battle Rifles" are stupid, so that's one reason.
>>29446390
They can make good DMRs, but yes, for infantry combat they're not even close to as good as an assault rifle
Because they were ahead of the curve and went to an intermediate round in the mid 40s, and a standard issue, select fire rifle with 30 round mags by 1950.
>>29444092
Mostly because it's a remarkable design and can't really be improved upon for what it's intended for.
Even with NATO aligned countries the Galil and FN FNC have a following for a reason
>>29443424
Doctrinal reasons. They had no use for them.
A good Soviet unit is one that can lay a good volume of fire, which makes 30 rounds of 7.62x39 in a somewhat controllable select fire platform much better than 20 rounds of rifle caliber with a full auto function that's difficult to control.
Add this to the fact that infantry in post war Soviet doctrine is secondary (tanks and artillery being the main forces), and you have your answer.
Actually, the SVD was designed as a battle rifle, its early name (Dragunov's Semi-automatic Rifle) shows it, but when it was presented to Soviet Army officials, they found the idea stupid, so Dragunov offered his project to the officials as a DMR, and then it was adopted in Red Army service.
TL;DR no use in Soviet infantry doctrine, ordnance planners found the idea retarded.
>>29447953
as much as I loathe slavshit, russia, vatniks and love battle rifles, yes, at the early soviet union, they were in terms of military ahead of everyone else.
>>29443849
Rimmed cases are a problem in magazines. They are not a problem with belts.
>>29443424
Malnourished peasants cant handle the recoil.
>>29448213
>Rimmed cases are a problem in magazines
If you don't do the mag right, yeah.
