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Fitness Edition
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
Use the IRC pussies
1st for the US Navy
Apachebro in the house.
>>29441829
It's nice to see other vehiclekind on 4chan.
I'm a '63 corvette stingray
Marsoc sniperfag here. To bad no one ever believes me.
>>29441892
as a 68W with no option 40, how likely is it that i'll be able to drop a packet for it after basic? (ship in may for ft. sill)
>>29441892
>>29441946
didn't mean to quote you btw, sorry. you can tell me about your job tho
>>29441892
Hey dude do you have Navy Hospital Corpsman working with you? What does their job entail?
>>29441892
Probably cause no one cares.
>>29441892
Since im a lazy piece of shit and dont feel like looking at the links, How did you get selected or try for MARSOC? Also Do you know anything about marine aviation and how hard that is to get into? Im guessing the same or harder than the navy?
I just swore into the DEP for the airforce. I'm Mech44. Is aerial gunner a hard job to do/get into?
>>29442027
>airforce
:^)
>>29442121
Got a problem m8?
We have to be smart to succeed here at tech school
>>29442121
>not wanting to be comfy while you kill
It's like you want to be miserable and die in a ditch.
>>29442209
I got a 97 on my ASVAB while tired hungry and distracted by some porch monkey tapping hsi fucking pencil.
It's not hard to get a good ASVAB score, it doesn't make you special.
>wanting to be comfy
>>29442239
Disgusting. I chose HM so I could ball hard with the marines and shoot muslims in the fucking face.
>>29442209
ASVAB don't mean shit once you get to BMT. It takes intelligence and diligence to learn the material.
>>29441946
bump
>>29442251
what is HM?
>>29442295
Hospital Corpsman
>>29442295
/hm/
hot men
the most popular 4chan board
>>29442301
Thanks
>>29442305
Ill have to check that out then
>>29442324
navy detected
>>29442333
>Navy
>Implying the army doesn't have the most gay people per capita
>>29442343
>implying my trips aren't truth and that you don't have a village people song about you
>>29442357
Well we have the SEALs and the blue angles so suck a dick
>>29442357
>yfw the navy is the only force that has air sea and land power and can completely sustain itself.
>>29442385
green berets, rangers, air cav back in 'nam,
>>29442412
tfw you're right but that doesn't make you any less of a fag
>>29442426
delta as well
>>29442412
army has land and air locked the fuck down, you guys just have boats.
still better than the muhreens though.
>fighting for Israel
Good goyim!
Cant wait for you to sign your life away at meps.. hehehe if you need any questions answered, ask away!
>>29442442
i thought delta was just part of SF aka green berets?
>>29442469
shut the fuck up, /pol/ i browse you enough already
Just saw this Environmental science/engineering job and saw that it looks like the other branches have some sort of equivalent. Is it actual sciencey stuff, or is it just a glorified janitor? The description really makes me think it's just cleaning shit up, but I'm hopeful it's more.
http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/amedd-categories/medical-service-corps-jobs/environmental-scientist.html
>>29442469
>The israel owns America meme
I actually debunked this.
Since you obviously know fuck all about geo politics let me tell you real quick.
We brought Israel into the world in the 1900's, they have been our desert bitch ever since. When Obama got accused of working directly in line with Israels interests he did perhaps the most brilliant thing he's done his entire presidency and say he was thinking about cutting funding to Israel.
This made Netanyahu scream like a bitch all the way to Congress who gave him a podium to beg for more money.
We own Israel. Now, there are JEWS who are billionaires like George Soros who fund liberal stances heavily, but these guys being brought into the light is a step towards tearing them down.
TL;DR you're not fighting for Israel, at worst you're fighting to make your country more money.
>>29442523
Nice try JIDF
How many sheckles do you get getting 4chan NEETS to join the military?
>>29442575
24,475 starting I'm going to fight to kill muslims and save Americans. Fuck off with your faggot conspiracy theories.
>>29441946
Volunteering for anything in USASOC cannot be denied by anyone except for the hostees or if you don't meet their requirements. (Once at your unit.)
You SHOULD have an opportunity to get Airborne and RASP at your AIT. But that isn't a guarantee. (They may only have 5 slots and 5 dudes have better PT scores than you, etc.)
Spending time in conventional can be quite valuable, though it depends on the personality and your interactions. Sometimes knowing what a horribly ran unit, clinic, whatever can really show you how to be better at your job; and it's fairly often that those who started and were bred in SOF tend to not have that unique experience.
Personally, I think being a 68W in SOAR would be lightyears better than batt. But that could just be me. Know that you're not gonna be blasting faces in a stack like the infantry dudes are, even in batt.
I go to Navy basic in a month
is this it?
No more living with my parents, right?
Should I sell all my crap, like video games, computer, and stuff?
>>29443196
what is SOAR? and that's fine, i'd like to see a bit of action but it's not a huge need for me ore else i would have gone 11b or 13f
>>29443312
160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment "Nightstalkers"
Handles all (large majority) of the USASOC's of rotary aviation requirements.
As a 68W you'd be a SOCM-trained flight medic. A fucking sweet ass gig.
>>29443379
how do i do this? sounds fucking amazing
>>29443291
Fuck no don't sell your shit. You can get that shit shipped to you for free after training and you're at your unit. (Apparently long enough tech schools too.)
Military life is just like normal life. Except you do some job with weird ass rules and you have a bunch of people above you who almost legally own you.
The world doesn't disappear.
>>29443402
Finish 68W and meet the requirements for the packet.
Look up SOAR recruiting on Google, you'll find what you need.
>>29443439
will i need a TS clearance?
>>29443439
ah nvm, it says secret, thanks for the info!
>>29443422
do I REALLY need my assault rifles, though?
As a good citizen, I feel I don't need such military style weapons. I think we should all end with the gun culture that plagues our nation.
How many hours do Active Duty military members(?) per week? Does it vary by MOS and branch? Is there a set schedule? 9-5? Do Infantrymen from any branch get it worse than others?
How does this work?
>>29443531
>How many hours do Active Duty military members(?) per week?
What I meant to say
>How many hours do Active Duty military members(?) work per week?
>>29443531
Completely depends on your job.
The most desky, or the closer you work with contractors, the more consistent your hours.
Infantry, combat MOS (like 12B and 13F), line medics, etc. definitely have it the worst on hours. Usual garrison days are just random fuck fuck games and shamming.
Fuck fuck games being random leadership keeping you at work sitting doing nothing. Or getting tasked out for 'details', which are all the random bullshit 'chores' the rest of the Army is too lazy to do themselves, and 99% of the time messes created by them. But it's ok, the infantry are hard enough to handle the excessive free labor hours.
Then when you're training you never get off time in the field. So a 14 day field event means on the clock for 336 hours, and only getting paid for 80. Then you get back for a week, and oh no the field event ended on a Sunday, well too bad buddy, you've got work on Monday.
So then you go in for a work week of fuck fuck games or prepping for the next training event you guys have.
Shamming is either disappearing (playing hooky), or if you have good leadership, told to do whatever you need or want to do, and go to the gym.
The better the leadership, the higher the rank, and the more you move away from conventional Big Army, the better your life becomes.
I will never understand these threads. When I was 17, I just elected to take the ASVAB in high school and read about what jobs were available to me afterward. You can arrange to take the ASVAB before committing to any entry-level position in the military, in any branch. Just do a little of your own reading and make a decision like the rest of us did. Also, don't be fat.
If your body is broken you are disqualified.
If your brain is broken you are disqualified.
Simple as that.
>>29443684
I've always wondered - does tossing on a name without a tripcode make the bait better, or does the tripcode add even more?
>>29443531
As a 5942 I worked 14 hour days. This was at the beginning of the war when we were training up pilots to deploy, I have heard that being a radar guy is still pretty gay though.
In 29 palms I always saw the 03 guys released by noon after a couple hours of cleaning weapons. They seem to be on permanent skate status when they aren't in the field, and even then friends say they train for a couple hours then just fuck around for the rest of the day.
>>29444444
>>29444444
Holy Fuck
>witnessed
>>29444444
hexes confirm being a radar guy is pretty gay
>>29444444
Checked
>>29442333
Anyone have that story about the gay guy who joined the Navy only to find out it's full of women?
So im trying to get into the airforce as an air traffic controller since it is something i can get out and do to make a living, since i can't be guaranteed that mos what others should i be aware of? I made a 77 on the practice asvab if it makes a difference. My main thing is i want something that will get me ahead when/if i decide to leave after 4 or however many years.
>>29444444
Them digits
I'm drunk. I've just realized that I want to die.!
Which branch?
>>29443494
I know I'm late
any future intel, prepare your anus at ft.huachuca. they just kicked out a bunch of retards for some heroin ring in the barracks
>as if this place couldn't be MORE fun
>>29441751
Would it be a good idea to join canuck infy reserve while in uni?
I wanna either go intel or infy after uni, but the rationale for going reserve infy while in uni is that should I not like the trade, as soon as I graduate I could just apply for direct entry to intel officer and not be stuck with the job.
Plus if I do like infantry, I could already have some experience with the position.
Unlikely most of you guys will know, but does anyone have info on the Vancouver based Seaforth Highlanders? That's the unit i'd join should I go reserves
>>29445234
moar of this pls
>>29445234
Thank God for me being a canuck. Worst I gotta deal with is Asians or Indians
>>29445311
they were getting drugs sent to them and they got caught. the buzz word i keep hearing is "synthetic heroin" whatever the hell that means. suboxone? methadone? oxycontin?
>military intelligence, ladies and gentlemen
>dishonorable discharge for fucking drugs
Anyone have any info on the French Foreign Legion?
Would like to ask a legionnaire some questions
>>29445164
Cmom guys, help me find the way to do
>>29445492
FFL
>>29445492
88M
jidf
>>29445379
hey man, enlisted should know better, it is illegal
>>29445530
exactly. just mind blowing to me
>>29444444
>can't sleep
>get out of bed
>decide to check out my post on the /meg/
>fucking hexes...
>>29444603
All the atc guys I knew never got a chance to work for the faa. If you check out usajobs all those positions ask for dudes with a billion years of experience, they don't want some 21 year old kid who may have controlled a couple stateside flights a handful of times.
Besides, in both the Marine Corps and Air Force what I witnessed was the senior e5s, staff and officers doing all the controlling while the lower enlisted people just watched the ancillary scopes. I'm sure that is one of the main reasons why someone getting out after ~5 years can't get a job in atc.
ATC and ballistics radar guys on the other hand get courted by Lockheed before they even eas.
>>29445164
Cmom guys, help me find the way to do >>29445504
fuck off faggit, I may be drunk but I'm not dumb
I want to die, faggot bigger
>>29445530
smart people generally dont join the military
>>29445575
>not smart people generally don't join as enlisted
though there are plenty of retards who manage to both get a bachelors and pass officer basic
>>29445584
whats the difference between an idiot and a solider? ones in uniform.
>>29445584
Four years ago all the branches were still taking art degrees.
Do you think it is difficult to get an undergraduate degree?
>>29445604
>art degrees
like the arts and humanities or actual "I painted in college"?
because the latter sounds absolutely retarded
>>29445610
thats a weird way to say the same thing twice
>>29445627
This
I got my History degree from Bowdoin college and I'm looking to be a Naval officer
>>29445629
yeah, but I didn't differentiate between em, technically the "I painted in college" is also part of arts and humanities. Hence why i deleted my post
>>29445610
When anyone refers to art degrees on 4chan they are talking about anything that isn't stem.
If your diploma says "Bachelor of Arts..." on it, then you've got an art degree.
>>29445639
that implies that all arts degrees are useless. Which I disagree, obviously I wouldn't want an English major running a corporation, but say a IR major with a focus on South East Asian relations could do well as either a diplomat or an analyst with regards to SEA
TLDR: its all about specializing and acknowledging your degree might be over bloated
>>29445677
>it would be really useful for this incredibly niche job
>>29445610
Literally any bachelors is fine.
>>29445677
I didn't mean to imply that they are completely useless, they are just mostly useless for the military and the Air Force in particular.
Diplomats are civilians. They'd rather have someone with a grasp of math or IT concepts as a 17d than someone who can muse about 17th century literature.
>>29445717
makes sense. I'd be terrified at the notion of people with Poli Sci degrees being hired on as either fighter pilots or mechanics (and this is coming from a poli sci major).
>>29445731
>officers being anything more than glorified paper pushers
fighter pilots maybe, but pffft everything else?
>>29445717
semi off topic here, but thats how nameiwontmention used to hire people in microsofts early days. they would hire people with zoology degrees, because at the time, the technology was new and no-one "knew" it. So they were just looking for people who proved they could shut up and sit down and learn it. said person used to finish his interviews by taking the interviewee for a drive, and asking them why the car was so quiet. it was one of the first electric cars around, and it was modified from a regular gas using car, so nearly no one could figure it out. all he was looking for was "good" answers. didnt matter what you were good at, if you could apply logical thinking and make rational decisions or observations. said the best answer he got from anyone was "non-combustion engine?" from some asian with nearly zero grasp on english. he probably got hired
>>29445744
How is it relevant to speak on the hiring practices of entities before there was specialized training for their industries?
>>29445765
its not. hence the semi off topic warning. if you want me to reach out and try to connect it somehow, i guess i could imply that putting political sci majors or whatnot into military positions is actually, untested and quite possibly beneficial for reasons we havent seen nor comprehend yet. or the thought of interviews just reminded me of a random story. you be the judge.
>>29445777
But it is tested. They do it every time a war breaks out in order to swell the numbers.
They view stem people as the best of the best, so they would rather have them during draw down eras.
>>29445798
theyve tested putting some of them, into minor positions of power, sure. where they got presumably veto`d by the vast majority of actual, hardened grizzled combat ready dudes. maybe we need to change things up a bit. restructure the entire thing. maybe, if every soldier was a poli sci major, they might not even start any wars when they realize they could just buy the oil
If I want to die should become an Army RangerV
>>29446015
Your chances of getting waxed are improved if you join a regular infantry line unit. Rangers drop in, do what they do then exfiltrate. Regular infantry bowls over everything and stays put. That attracts counter attacks.
>>29438524
>If you meet weight standards and don't have major medical conditions you are literally decently prepared right now. A male of healthy weight can get up to Air Force minimum fitness standards during BMT.
Does this go for the Navy as well, or is Navy BMT somewhat more rigorous?
>>29441781
2nded anon. Talked to a Navy recruiter yesterday. Have to get two waivers if possible, may even get medically DQed because of a spine protrusion. FML
>>29445558
What do you mean? Like of i go in for atc then i probably wouldn't get to work for the faa but there are other things i could do once i got out or am i misunderstanding?
>>29445164
Jump off a bridge and save your fellow countrymen some tax dollars.
Idle question while I wait for Sarge to get his ass in gear.
Does the place where they put you up for MEPS have a DVD player, or is all the stuff on a closed circuit?
And would I get reamed out if I brought a couple DVDs? How could anyone mind some Starship Troopers and Gundam 0083?
>>29446368
Go to usajobs and look up atc for your region. If you actually find positions, then you will see that you need a minimum of 36 months of experience.
Now, after you get out of the military you're going to be competing for that one or two job openings in your entire state. If there is some atc guy who is transferring to you area who already works for the faa, then the posting is a formality and your application will be passed over. If there is an e8 who just got out and applies for that job, then the posting is a formality and your application will be passed over.
I just checked it out and there are 42 jobs available for atc in the entire nation. You're worse off after getting out than a navy nuke as far as job prospects go, it isn't a smart move if your plan is to set yourself up for a career.
>>29447313
You're asking strangers on the internet to somehow figure out which meps hotel you're going to and check for you whether they have dvd players in the meps rooms?
>>29442505
Anyone? Janitor with a fancy title? Or is it sciencey like I hope, but it's a unicorn job so no one knows for sure?
Any Canadians here know anything about the Intelligence Operator day to day life?
>>29447571
I actually just read the listings, only like eleven of them are entry-level. The rest are instructor status and such.
>>29447313
Who gives a fuck?
Ours had a video game room. Some idiot had his gf come all the way down and sat there for hours playing video games with us while his qt gf just sat by him quetly. I would of been in parking lot or room getting my fug on.
>>29447313
meps hotel in knoxville was based. had pool, vidya and movies, watched FMJ with everyone, was comfy
How difficult is DLI really? Is it mainly dependent on which language you get?
>>29447849
>>29447933
They all have game rooms. When I joined in 2001 mine had one, when I went a couple weeks ago they had one.
>>29447313
Just don't be that kid who is staying up all night watching tv in the room. Have some fucking courtesy, call time is at 0330.
>>29447979
everyone stayed up till like 11 in the game room at mine kek. also call is now at 430 with breakfast being 445
Oh look, a thread about the worst decision I ever made.
>>29448061
>he fell for the infantry/nuke/SF meme
>>29448061
what happened anon?
>>29448074
>>29448101
I was raped by my roommate
>>29448101
Please, do tell.
I love hearing stories about retards not taking advantage of the system and getting out in worse or the same shape as when they went in.
>>29448130
You could get raped by your roommate anywhere, that's not exclusive to the military.
>>29448142
also i though they didn't have roommates anymore, at least inna army
Meeting with a Navy recruiter tomorrow. Hoping for an IT rating. /fit/ fag with a couple of legal blemishes in my past, but nothing major. Anything I should pick his brain about specifically?
>>29448152
Ask off the bat whether your crap will disqualify you from those jobs so you can start looking at other stuff and not waste your time.
>>29448130
Greentext. Make it sexy.
>>29448152
say "i have ____ on my record, will that disqualify me from ____ job?"
>>29448199
Ok. Will do. Couple of alcohol related misdemeanors and a para all 5+ years ago.
>>29448074
>tfw I fell for the sub nuke meme
Is there a strict limit on scoliosis disqualification, or is it a case by case basis sort of thing? No pain and never needed a brace. I don't remember the exact degree of curvature, but I distinctly remember by doctor saying 'mild to moderate' back in middle school when it was discovered. That's assuming it didn't get worse, of course. If it has, my doctor hasn't said anything at my physical
>>29448340
You can get a waiver for anything, really, but you might just be locked out of infantry roles no matter whose dick you suck.
>>29448376
Oh, thanks, I didn't realize it was that lenient. Is there a chance of getting locked out of jobs that take place primarily on ships or (if I get really desperate) submarines?
>>29448490
As a former submariner, rule them out entirely. If you already have scoliosis, your back will be completely shot after 5 years of steel decks, cramped ceilings, and too short metal beds.
You could probably get a waiver for most of them on the surface, outside of surface nuke.
>>29448637
Alright, thanks again. I find subs really interesting, so I was considering them despite the horrible conditions, but I guess I'll go back to ruling them out.
Any croissant tonight ?
Have narrowed my choices down to a couple Signal Corps MOS. How is Fort Gordon/is it as awful as I've heard it is?
>>29448670
Plus it's just honestly not worth all the extra bullshit you have to deal with.
Unless you're shorter than like 5'8 and go sonar or some tech rate, then sure, go for it.
>>29445234
>im going there in August for AIT :^)
>>29445604
>Do you think it is difficult to get an undergraduate degree?
No. Outside of the upper spectrum of STEM, its a matter of money, not intelligence. Also not being stupid enough to party all night every night helps.
Really, a Bachelors those days is the new High School diploma. All it proves to your potential employer is that you managed to keep your priorities straight for 4 years.
>>29447979
>10 at night
>alseep in hotel room, shipping out to boot next day
>knock at the door
>some black kid claiming this is the room they booked him in, even though there are no more beds
>pulls his ps2 out of his backpack and plays madden all fucking night
Goddamn I'm still convinced he was just a paid actor or some shit, I was tired as hell the next day (and next 8 weeks.... and the following 6 years....)
>>29448240
It gets better after your EAOS. I promise. Unless you remain an alcoholic and blow your brains out like two of my friends did years after they got out. BUT OTHERWISE it gets better.
>>29448894
kick your habit now, doper
>>29449135
i wouldn't even have answered the door
>>29447776
Well shit. What should i be looking to do if i just want to get out, make money, and buy guns and land and do whatever?
>>29447571
Why did you mention nuke specifically here?
Are job prospects good or shitty for ex-nukes?
>>29449164
Yeah, I can imagine. I just have to get my final interviews for EWS and I can finally be done with all this bullshit
>>29441751
>buddy decides he's going to go into the Marines
>dating high school sweetheart
>decide to get married before he leaves
>"we'll be together forever, so it only makes sense to do it now"
>getaloadofthisguy.cam
>married 5 months before he ships out
>starts having trouble 3 months before he ships out
>looking into getting a divorce 2 weeks before he leaves
He's going to be making less divorced than he would have been going in single, isn't he?
Remember, kids, whether you decide to serve your country, or are conscripted to, don't be like my buddy. Marriage is for after you're out, if ever!
>>29449686
If women want equality, they should have to give up alimony.
>>29442477
>Delta, part of Green Berets.
No.
>>29449986
Equality doesn't mean "equal" to women, it means, "keep getting all the things women traditionally get, but without having to pay for it in the traditional way, and get everything men get, without having to do what men do"
>>29445234
Lol that's not surprising at all.
When I was there in 2007 one of the kids in the class after mine fucking OD'd on coke and we had piss tests ramped up and spent like two weeks doing health and welfare inspections of the barracks at fucking 2am. The company commander spent the company budget on fucking drug dogs from Arpaio's office.
I have an odd/stupid question, what goes on with laundry at bmt(airfarce)? use your own shower towels, or is it like the gym? do you use the base laundromat yourself?
>>29449686
>He's going to be making less divorced than he would have been going in single, isn't he?
I don't see her getting alimony after less than six months of marriage.
Especially because, I'm assuming, they don't have a kid and she's not pregnant. And I can't imagine a judge would give a fuck about how long they dated in high school.
68W ("Healthcare Specialist")
What can I expect for AIT?
Should I become a line medic?
Should I become a clinic desk jockey?
What can I expect for stationing? Shit?
>>29450127
>>29450127
>What can I expect for AIT?
Gay sex in the showers.
>Should I become a line medic?
>Should I become a clinic desk jockey?
>What can I expect for stationing? Shit?
Literally none of that is up to you.
>>29445242
bumping own question because fuck you I do what I want
>>29446328
Navy boot isn't going to be much worse than Air Force BMT. It's still just a 1.5 mile run.
>>29448725
Fort Gordon gets a bad reputation because a shit-ton of people go to AIT there. AIT is miserable, therefore any post that people solely associate with their AIT is going to be deemed garbage. Same with Fort Huachuca, for instance.
Gordon as an AIT student is going to suck because being an AIT student sucks. If you go there as permanent party there's some really cool units, Atlanta and Savannah are easy weekend destinations, and cost of living is nothing.
>>29445717
>Diplomats are civilians.
Not all of them.
Also, that international relations degree is more and more relevant in a military where nearly all major combat operations are coalition operations.
>got out of military year and a half ago
>doing college now
>have same headache I got last time I was in college
>want to drive up the road and reenlist because I miss it
stop me /meg/
>>29451117
Hey! Fort Huachuca is were all the STD's are, thank you very much.
>>29451232
Another post that is pretty awesome as permanent party.
>>29451200
I can't, cause I'm in the same boat. Why give us the GI Bill when college sucks so much ass? I'd rather take another 150k and just stay enlisted
>>29451600
It's so they don't have you pay your unemployment when you can't find a job after you separate.
>>29451786
Wouldn't it be cheaper to pay unemployment than to pay for people to go to university for four years?
>>29451600
Man... I was talking to some kid in the last /meg/ about how there are retards who never use their gi bill or will opt out completely in boot. So sad that one is on 4chan.
I can't speak for the other branches but in the Marine Corps you aren't getting past gunny without a degree, whether it is in leadership or some other bullshit.
>>29451200
Go do it.
Why did you get out in the first place if learning gives you headaches?
>>29451976
I mean, I am using it, but goddamn... It's like my old chief is laughing at me every time I hear the word problematic in class
Fister checking in
>>29452111
Is that a navy joke? I don't get it.
>>29452183
Going from being in the military to sitting in a classroom with faggot liberal professors catering to faggot liberal students talking about microaggressions and trigger warnings is hell
>>29452357
Damn, sounds like you chose a shitty school.
I just finished my undergrad this last fall and I never encountered anything like this or what kids on /pol/ complain about, not even in my psychology or sociology electives.
Are you in a smaller state? As far as I can tell it is only people from flyover country who are pushing the whole pc movement.
>>29452406
maryland, richest state in the union
its a bunch of pampered fucks who talk like they know what poverty and struggle is
>>29452451
>attending school in Maryland
>not just going to an three letter agency feeder school with all the other prior military and military brats
It's like you don't even want a sweet job at the NSA.
>>29452508
i wanted to be close to home familia
im probably gonna drop out and join back up anyway, college isn't really my thing
>>29441751
Got a fucking twitch from ops pic
>>29452451
Maybe consider doing national guard or air guard. That way you won't miss years on your federal retirement and you can have a little fun on the first weekend of every month.
Are you majoring in something stupid or is everyone in Maryland massive faggots like that?
>>29451896
Not really. Remember that the government provides most student loans through FAFSA and shit anyway. And remember that student loan interest rate is high because so many people default on them. And that's not taking into account the actual, real price of college, which can be pretty cheap. In state tuition for a college in my state was well below 10k a year. Hell, my college was 20k a year, but scholarships dropped that to 5k. And then there's all the sneaky ways governments can finagle things, like offering tax breaks for taking vets at a cheaper price, or something like that.
It's the good schools that tend to be more expensive, and I think the government is counting on the fact that someone who signs up for four years of service isn't bright enough to go to a 100k a year school.
>>29452653
>In state tuition for a college in my state was well below 10k a year.
Same here. For California residents CSUs are $3800/ semester.
I don't remember but isn't there some kind of tuition cap in respect to private schools?
>>29452707
Montgomery GI Bill covers up to $4500 a year. Not sure if the Post 9/11 is different.
I remember reading somewhere that the GI Bill will give as much as the highest cost state school in your state, if that makes sense. That might be the Post 9/11.
Here in Jersey, the Guard will cover any tuition money that is left to pay after your FAFSA
>>29452742
Post-9/11 is 100% public school tuition + E5 BAH in your zip code.
Yes, that means if you go to some California schools you get paid $3500/mo~ to go to school.
>>29452814
There are state schools in Cali that cost $35,000 per year? Or was that a typo?
And hot damn, no one ever told me about the BAH thing. I gotta deploy. You know if it's the same deal for the Guard?
>>29452742
I'm talking about the post 9/11. I doubt anyone here is old enough to not have only qualified for the old one... you'd have to be at least 34.
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>>29442016
I know about Marine Aviation. Went to OCS last summer. What do you want to know?
>>29452860
Not a typo, the $3500 is what you get paid to you for BAH. You don't pay for tuition, it's just 100% covered by the GI Bill.
Using the GI Bill to go to an expensive school like Berkeley ends up being like a $200,000 benefit between the free tuition and all the housing money. Pretty good deal for a 3 year enlistment.
>>29452991
>$200,000 benefit between the free tuition and all the housing money
jesus fucking christ, no wonder people are leaving American unies for European ones.
That's fucking insane. Most expensive uni here in Canuckistan isn't even that expensive, plus you get free tuition after living there for a year (though living in Quebec sounds more like torture than a blessing)
>>29452990
how was ocs? im trying for navy
how is the aviator pipeline you guys kind of do it similar to the navy one right?
you like being a pilot?
whats your platform
>>29453044
No one has ever bragged about going to school in Canada though.
>>29452991
Wait wait waaaaait, I had never heard that. I was under the impression that the Post 9/11 will only cover x-amount depending on the most expensive public school in your state. You're telling me they'll cover 100% of the tuition at whatever school I go to?
>>29453048
It sucked but it's not impossible. Not like all the recruiting commercials try to make it to be impossible.
For us the aviator pipeline goes like this
OCS -> Commsisoning -> The Basic School (6 months of platoon level leadership stuff, not too bad, I'm here now) -> Basic flight school -> airframe-specific flight school -> duty station
I haven't been to flight school yet. I'd like to do helicopters
>>29452991
>>29453076
I found this on the VA website, saying that Post 9/11 will only cover about $18,000 per year for private schools, give or take for certain states.
http://www.benefits.va.gov/gibill/resources/benefits_resources/rates/CH33/Ch33rates080112.asp#TUITION
>>29453052
point is that people go to less known german unies because half decent ones are expensive in the US
>>29453090
nice i applied to swo but now i think i would prefer NFO or aviator but my aviation scores are too low and i'd have to retake the test.
if i get in to swo i might just laterally transfer once im in. if i fly i think id go for the super hornet or maybe a heli but i think they only fly antisubs which is kind of lame, red storm rising notwithstanding
howd you get physically ready for ocs?
basic school seemed interesting from what i read in one bullet away
>>29453076
It is 100 % tuition upto the most expensive public school (of which Berkeley is one, for instance). Many private schools will also match the difference ("Yellow Ribbon Program"). It isn't free tuition to any school in the country, but it is pretty damn close, plus you get a check every month for housing expenses.
>>29453144
Run. I ran 4 days per week and it broke down like this:
1 long run of 6-10 miles
1 fartlek run (these are big at our OCS, not sure about you) which consists of running 400 to 800 meters, stopping and doing an exercise (pushups, situps, pullups, burpees, squats, etc) and getting up and running again. Repeat for a total of 3 to 5 miles
2 interval runs - one would be shorter with 400 or 800 meter repeats and one would be longer; for example, I would run a 5K with 3 or 4 intervals, each lasting 1 minute, at a 6 minute pace or better)
After the run, I would go to the gym and do circuit training - 1 minute pushups, one minute of pullups, one minute of crunches, one minute of farmer's carries, one minute of buddy carries) repeat ad nauseam
>>29453247
This...
Did anon think that Berkeley is a private school? Wouldn't surprise me.
>>29453257
im gonna try the bridge to 10k thing to work up to 6 miles again from 3 miles
kind of slacked off in running
buddy carries? you didnt do any lifting?
>>29450048
>I have an odd/stupid question, what goes on with laundry at bmt(airfarce)? use your own shower towels, or is it like the gym? do you use the base laundromat yourself?
Not sure what the current situation is, but back around 2005 you load your dirty laundry into a bag tied to your bed, and the guys on laundry duty for your flight go around and harvest the dirty laundry and go wash it in the industrial washers and driers nearby. This was also true in the 319th(Med Hold) as well.
>>29441751
>could you imagine strapping 100 pounds blah blah blah
>4 merrreeeeeeeennns carrying ottermode manlet
>100 pounds
>4 muuuuuuuuuuuricaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
25 pounds between them isnt the same as landwhale. marines cant into math, and need to do what they can to make a bbw feel bad about her condition.
>>29453968
>condition
>>29448240
What's so bad about being a sub nuke?
>>29453968
>4 merrreeeeeeeennns carrying ottermode manlet
>not sure if blind or cowadooty kiddie
>>29443531
Depends.
It's not unheard of for Rangers to work 80 hours in a week. And that's not doing high speed shit, either.
>>29448074
>SF
>A meme
wew lad
>>29446015
something like 70 Rangers have died since 9/11 so no.
>>29454592
like 20 of those are from the black hawk down incident
>>29447571
atc is still fun tho, right?
I wouldn't want to make that a career anyway, Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the field is going to lose 11% of its jobs in the next decade
while fields in computer science have like a 15% gain
>>29445234
I'm at Huachuca!
>>29445559
Then die.
Or go 11B.
>>29454649
black hawk down was 1993 that is not since 9/11
>>29453968
they're wearing 100 pounds of kit you obnoxious retard
>>29442586
>Conspiracy theories
Come on anon.
I'm thinking about going into the Guard over the summer. What is the best MOS for not getting deployed to Iran if we invade? I was thinking that 74D would be pretty cool.
>>29453090
>>29452990
What did you a degree in? What was your GPA? How competitive is it? Right now Im sitting at a 2.8 in ME, but probably going to switch to civil to get done faster. Plan on picking up GPA though. Also thanks for replying man.
How to get around my chapter 5-17....
>>29452860
>You know if it's the same deal for the Guard?
Yes. If you get on Title 10 orders to deploy. You get 50%-60% per year of active duty.
So if you can some how deploy for 2 years you can get 100%.
>>29452357
>Going from being in the military to sitting in a classroom with faggot liberal professors catering to faggot liberal students talking about microaggressions and trigger warnings is hell
I'm about to move into my last year of school and I've literally never encountered this.
>>29455202
The "liberal jewish feminist professor talking about trigger warnings" is a meme created by collegeless neets who have no grasp of reality
t. stem major
>>29455249
>t. stem major
It's funny because I'm not a STEM major and the worst I've encountered is a professor using the word "problematic".
But she meant it in the context of something being a problem, not the SJW label for something they disagree with.
And the "worst" I've seen from a student was a black female who pointed out that systematic rape in African conflict zones wasn't being talked about in the media as much as Syria etc., and this was an informal international relations club meeting.
my A school is at Pensacola FL
Can I own guns? My commie state wont let me
>>29454746
If staring at scopes and getting coffee for your sergeants and lieutenants who are actually controlling sounds like fun, then yeah.
>>29455249
This
Spend some time on /pol/ and to a lesser extent /biz/. They come up with all sorts of reasons why they work service industry jobs or not at all; one of the biggest reasons why they claim they didn't go to college is that they don't want to be brainwashed, which is hilarious since it implies that they are weak-willed enough to be brainwashed by three hours of lectures per week.
>>29455570
>>29455249
it doesnt happen every day and its not brainwashing
its just annoying
even if the professors arent shoving it down your throat, the whole culture of college is libcuck shit
>Be filling out paperwork for the recruiter
>Find out self-harm is a big no-no
>Have a small but deep scar from taking knife to flesh
I wish I was less pathetic at fourteen and didn't cut myself, why was I so autistic fuuuck.
>>29455739
Holy fuck, you're dense.
>>29455931
You're a idiot if you told them that. You should have just said it was a accident. Ex. Tripped on a knife
>>29455976
I didn't but my paranoia won't allow me think of a good enough excuse and that the safest bet is to have an accident while rising a bike.
>>29456009
I don't get it. Give more details.
Did you get into the military?
You told them the scar was from falling off a bike?
>>29456046
I've only talked to the recruiter so far, I have yet to go to MEPS for a physical as well as take the ASVAB since I'm waiting on my birth certificate to come in the mail and then I can get that stuff done. My paranoia is that my scar is obviously from getting cut by something. It's probably just pre-MEPS jitters but at the same time having to fall off of a bike to cover up my scar looks like it's gonna hurt like hell and given the conspicuous location of my scar it might seem suspicious and probably screw me over anyway. I guess I'm paranoid because I hate lying and I don't know what MEPS is like anyway.
>>29456147
Don't be paranoid. Don't give the recruiters many unnecessary details. Try to answer things with short answers like yes and no.
Obviously lie about anything that might disqualify you they THEY CAN'T PROVE(hurting yourself ). Saying you don't remember works well too.
MEPS is boring as fuck. You sit and wait mostly. You do eye test, hearing test, blood test, personality test, some other test I'm probably forgetting. The doctor will grab your balls, be prepared for that.
Let me tell you again, the most important thing is not to tell them unnecessary things and be brief with your answers. Only you know what's wrong with your body and only you know what might get you disqualified. If you have to lie make it a believable story and stick to it.
holy shit /meg/ I dont know who else to tell
I just gave the best head in my life.
I fucking love sucking dick.
He fucking came in my mouth and I didn't even gag, and I STILL KEPT ON SUCKING
IM A MASTER N OW
>>29456406
just curious, how useful is my skill in the miliitary? Specifically the navy.
I can't let my skill go to waste. I made this man orgasm. Best head he ever got, he said.
>>29451896
Not everyone that uses it goes to an expensive school. If you use it to go to a tech school for welding, then no, it's much less expensive.
Also, the government isn't really paying the normal cost of the school once you consider yellow ribbon programs and such.
>>29456406
were being invaded by reddit because bernie lost every state again, they're mad and they'll go away in like 4 hours, relax and ignore.
25B, 25N, or 25S? I like the look of Signal, and have narrowed it down to those three. 25S looks like it could be interesting or horrificly dull and dreary unlike the others which just seem averagely monotonous and dreary.
>>29456283
what's the MEPS personality test like?
>>29456956
"Would you ever consider killing someone if you were angry with them?"
>>29457002
Have you travelled overseas more than 70 times in the past 3 months?
Have you seen a car in the last six months, including today?
T/F: it is okay to steal since everyone steals.
The questions are overt and it is difficult to fail unless you truly are a psychopath.
>>29457035
i "failed" the 150 question psychological profile exam for a job i was applying for. it was one of the ones that asks the same questions over and over and you have to strongly agree somewhat agree neutral slightly disagree or strongly disagree. i thought i was consistent but apparently not
>>29457061
Here's a hint for next time - you either strongly agree or strongly disagree. Any other response is scrutinized.
>>29457073
>you either strongly agree or strongly disagree
The fuck kinda system is that? Is nuance and context not appreciated?
>>29457073
good to know, thanks
>>29457089
agreed, why the hell did i spend 2 hours filling it out correctly lol
>>29457104
why the fuck does my name say jasmin fuentes?
>>29457107
oh, i get it. you fooled me asianmoot
>>29454015
Shit life. Every day is groundhog day. Boat smell. No job satisfaction. Leadership through attrition. Lack of sleep.
>>29457107
Today is April 1st
>>29457119
Stacey Haney you god damned cunt i swear to god if i ever found you postering on the fourchan i'd smack your god damn sister so hard she'll be retarded for 8 weeks
>>29457145
My sister was kicked in the head by a mule and fell down a well.
Jokes on you.
>>29457149
bitch i don't care about your cheap whore of a retarded sister i'm talking to Stacey
>>29457153
I don't know who Alfred is. Butt out.
>>29457159
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
Anyone know what rank and what branch this picture is from?
>>29457593
forgot the pic
>wanted to join the army
>got turned down because of my lacking social skills
>>29457647
Failed psychological test at MEPS?
I don't even know how that happens, I was a shut in NEET when I enlisted and I still passed.
Trying to finish up my flight physical, but I keep getting one red blood cell in my urine samples. Anyone know how long it takes to get a waiver? The urinalysis is literally the only thing left to finish my physical.
Managed to get through meps,perfect vision, no issues on physical have to wait on SG to give me a waiver cause adhd i talked about way back before i knew to keep it on the DL, my only worry is some bullshit like i got my tonsils out and that counts as surgery, or my mom took me to the ER at age 2 and didnt tell me about it and i put no on the answer and they somehow find out through magical bullshitting powers
>>29457750
Tonsils are a non issue, don't worry about it.
>>29455409
To be fair systematic rape im African conflict zonea is talked about, but generally it's overshadowed by the genocides and other horrible crap that goes down in Africa.
>>29441751
thank you for your service
>>29457672
>Catherine Tate
You win at names
Also those tests are essential checking that you're not hyper-aggressive, dishonest, thieving or a raging alcoholic. So long as you answer as if you're a "good" person you'll pass it.
Also no, you would not disobey an order to use nuclear weapons.
