>Candidates for CIA agent jobs in clandestine services must:
>1. Be a citizen of the United States.
>2. Be at least 18 years old.
>3. Possess a bachelor's degree with a minimum GPA of 3.0.
>4. Have strong interpersonal skills.
>5. Have a strong interest in international affairs.
>6. Be able to write clearly and accurately.
tfw lack 3,4, and 6.
I just want my life to be Call of Duty: Black Ops...
>>29436618
Dick off
>>29436618
Are you sure you're not lacking 2 as well? :^)
>>29436618
So all the skill requirements then.
>implying every CIA agent is a spook
>implying you can handle a big guy
>>29436635
You don't need to be a cod kid to admit how awesome the Blops campaign was.
>>29436618
>3. Possess a bachelor's degree with a minimum GPA of 3.0.
Nuh-uh! That chick from Zero Dark Thirty got recruited straight from high school! It was a Hollywood movie, so it had to have been accurate.
>>29436618
You fucking retard most of this bored should have over half these qualities and I just lack the bachelor's because I'm still in school.
And this isn't for the super cool spoopy SAD stuff just desk jockey shit.
>>29436675
My guess is they meant the internship
https://www.cia.gov/careers/student-opportunities/high-school-students.html
>>29436688
Even in SAD, only about 20-30% of the guys are the super HSLD oper8r types people here associate SAD with.
Anyways, if you really want to make it into le big guy agency you should try to study a language or some kind of foreign affairs major in college, get good grades, and keep up to date with current events across the globe (you'll have to read actual journals as online blogs and CNN won't cut it). When you apply they look mostly at A) Major B) GPA C) how well you do on your current events essay (they'll have you hand write an essay as part of your application) D) any applicable military experience.
I swear, they need to filter discussions on the CIA because 95% of the people who post in these threads don't have a fucking clue.
I'm no expert on the CIA, but I am a contractor who has worked federal contracts that have brought me into contact with many of the intelligence agencies operating overseas.
>>29436618
>Be able to write clearly and accurately.
The fact that they have to state this
You're not going to get to do any cool shit. Just mundane stuff and a metric fuckton of paperwork. It's like law enforcement except you don't have to deal with as many meth'd up hobos.
Plus you've been on here so you're on a watchlist.
>>29436759
Do you have any interesting stories to tell ?
>>29436759
are you sure youre not still an undergrad
two of my uncles work for the CIA, one is an agent and the other does some stuff with computers
if you are on 4chan i can guarantee you don't have the interpersonal skills for an agent position. behind the scenes non agent jobs you have a chance at though, my mega geek uncle can even get one of those jobs, though he isn't a social autist
good luck though
>>29437025
adding on, both of them are very well versed in foreign affairs and don't play any meme shooting games. If you are serious about this you will need to learn about reality and get out of the game world
>>29436759
listen to this guy
also agent stuff isn't as cool as you think it is from what has been shared with me
>>29436618
>tfw only missing 1.
>>29437083
What ?
>>29436618
Forgetting foreign language, and you probably are a shitty analytic writer and briefer.
Name some SATs and how you'd use them
>>29436942
A few, but not really a lot of sp00ky stuff, since my background isn't in intelligence.
>>29436955
Nah, I graduated years ago.
>>29437069
Dude this is 4chins, no one here is ever leaving the meme lyfe behind.
>>29437281
I'm actually fluent in french.
>>29437705
haha anon, they mean a REAL foreign language
>>29437705
But yeah, I am a shitty analytical writer and briefer.
>>29437705
>>29437735
not him but french is probably actually pretty useful to them now, since the majority of france has been cucked into sharia and a lot of terrorists seem to come from there
>>29437798
Sadly, you're right.
>>29437735
French is useful af. There's tons of conflict in former French and Belgian countries. They might not be Tier 1 intelligence priorities, but that could can change very quick;y
>>29436618
>3. Possess a bachelor's degree with a minimum GPA of 3.0.
Question: What if you originally went to community college, got a meh GPA, then transfered to a 4 year and got your degree with a high GPA? Would they look at your CC transcripts and factor that into your GPA from the 4 year?
>>29437798
>the majority of france has been cucked into sharia
>>29437736
These books are a good start to thinking like an intel guy
http://www.amazon.com/Structured-Analytic-Techniques-Intelligence-Analysis/dp/1452241511
http://www.amazon.com/Reducing-Uncertainty-Intelligence-Analysis-National/dp/080477594X?tag=duckduckgo-d-20
http://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Intelligence-Analysis-Richard-Heuer/dp/1907521232?tag=duckduckgo-d-20
>>29438033
Thank you kind sir.
>>29437736
Elements of Style can help your writing
Watch TED speeches and maybe take a speech class to help with your briefing skills; TED talks are great in that they show you how to do a good powerpoint rather than the usual DOD garbage powerpoints
>>29438052
And if you check out the authors, these guys are the real deal.
There's also a decent amount of fondness/respect for Nasim Taleb's 'Black Swan.'
>>29438024
In general look at your transcript, what does the cumulative GPA show? Some colleges transfer credits without grades, some include the grades.
Transcript is going to be your answer.
>>29438073
>>29438057
Thanks for the advice. I'll look into it all.
>>29436688
There is nobody that will train you about collection, esp HUMINT, other than the agencies themselves. If collection is what interests you, just apply because these guys are one of the few legit sources for training and they understand that
>mfw I speak Hindi but not fluently because that side of my family are cunts and didn't bother teaching me as a child
I'd apply but my language skills are not great and I was a communications major in school, I heard they look for Economics, International Relations, Finance types.
>>29438111
Do it faggot. The inside scoop I've heard is that most native speakers will not pass the tests, which essentially require one to demonstrate academia-level proficiency
>>29438130
>which essentially require one to demonstrate academia-level proficiency
Which I don't think I have. More conversational/street. I was born in NY and only lived there for a few years. I am applying for a Foreign Service internship.
>>29438185
What I was trying to say is that any level of proficiency is god. Conversational proficiency is awesome
>>29436618
working in the cia must suck imo, plus they'll probably kill you when you retire. i'd rather be a soldier or a cop
>>29438209
Interesting. I wish I had mil background. Have you applied?
>>29438229
No. I don't have the language skills for that sort of work, and the State Department doesn't especially interest me
>>29436693
Still required to get a degree during internship or after.
>>29438103
Well it doesn't list humint experience as being a qualification but humint jobs in the military aren't hard to get and take less of a commitment since you'll get experience doing your job before having a degree.
>>29436618
>a bachelor's degree with a minimum GPA of 3.0.
in anything?
How about music therapy?
>>29438946
lol no.
>>29441363
Womens studies?
Why is the GPA so important?
>>29436618
>Possess a bachelor's degree with a minimum GPA of 3.0.
Is that any bachelor's degree?
>>29436618
>tfw lack 3,4 and 6
4 and 6 can be improved. What GPA do you have for your bachelor's?
>I just want my life to be like Call of Duty: Black Ops
CIA SAD or bust. Although you need SOF leadership experience, I believe.
>>29436635
Black Ops came out 6 years ago, it wouldn't be surprising to see grown up CoD kiddies like myself.
>>29443662
SIX YEARS ago?!
Jesus christ....
>>29442437
Just shows that you have work ethic and can be trained. Take calculus.
>>29444130
I know, right? Seems like yesterday.
>>29436618
ITT: People who think if they meet the bare minimums for a job they can instantly get that job.
Yep, you are totally right. A government job with benefits and good pay with a government pension at the end of it is the least demanding of any job out there.
3.0 fucking GPA. If you had a 3.0 fucking GPA you would be hard pressed to get a job as a manager at a fast food joint, let alone the CIA.
>>29443662
I don't have a bachelor's degree.
>>29437248
He's not American dipshit.
>>29445648
How old are you and why don't you have a bachelor's? You could still join the military, get the GI Bill and get that bachelor's degree if you really wanted to join the CIA.
Bumping this thread.
>>29446961
18 and unsure what to do with my life. I dropped out of high school so the next step is to get a GED. From then on I'm undecided...
Honestly I just want to listen to my EDM music and get drunk, and make my money managing shifts at a clothing store . Honestly what's good riding in the back of a car to sneak into the palace I once grew up in..
>>29450017
Lololol
>>29449046
Well, you can look forward to exciting careers such as:
Day Laborer
Dog Walker
Ditch Digger
Grass Cutter
Sandwich Maker
...
The choices are endless!
>>29437069
>agent stuff isn't as cool as you think.
This. 95% of it is official cover meaning you end up as a glorified security guard at some embassy hoping, praying, and waiting for something remotely interesting to walk through the door so you can type up an e-mail that probably won't be read.
All the shoot'em up , package securing, interrogation, surveillance of SOI/POI/OOI, and wetwork gets done by conteactors and Spec Ops. Wanna know what you'd be doing as the CIA guy? Showing up in a suit and sunglasses, ticking off everyone in a uniform, and making an ass of yourself, all under the guise of "National Security".
Don't be thinking you'll be leading teams into hot zones or fighting side by side with troops to fulfill your mission. MACVSOG had it's day. It's over. Nobody likes it when the spooks show up.
>>29449046
damn youre fucked dude. college is the new highschool, without a highschool diploma you are looking at like mexican gardener tier jobs
>>29450528
t. dumb grunt
>>29449046
Ok. Before I give you advice, I need to ask you. When you say you are "unsure what to do with my life", how willing are you to change that? Are you ready to commit yourself to new challenges and take risks? What do you want to do as a person? Forget about jobs, let's talk more about what you want to do with your life as a human being. Do you want to operate? Do you want to work closely with your government and do spooky shit? What do you want to do? I don't care how ridiculous it sounds, I want to hear it.
>>29450528
As some one who was interrogated by a CIA agent this is 100% true. They are some of the most gun-ho faggots out there. They see no action and just guard bullshit post and pretend to be spies. The actual spec op jobs within the CIA you don't apply to they come find you.
>>29436618
but being a spy for the CIA, FBI, DEA, or what ever, consist of being at the right place at the right time.
canadian here. can i become a citizen and join the CIA with a physics/math degree? i know C++, Python, Fortran, Matlab, Solidworks, and play the piano.
>>29454091
Of course, how good are you at your degree? I suggest getting a Master's and perhaps a Doctorate, though, it could really help you out.
>>29454025
>As some one who was interrogated by a CIA agent
Now you know you can't get away with saying that and not tell a story.
>>29437735
Ever been to Africa lot of French speakers there and in Asia
https://www.cia.gov/careers/opportunities/clandestine/paramilitary-operations-officer-specialized-skills-officer.html
Further reading on what it takes to become a CIA paramilitary operations officer.
>>29437735
French is spoken in many African and Middle Eastern countries, considering they were former French colonies.
>>29454103
it's an Honors in Physics-Mathematics. I've done research in cryptography and signal processing.
>>29454114
It's retarded and I told the full story on /pol/
I'll share some back log information and something that happened to me yesterday.
Pretty much I was placed on a federal terrorist watch list (TSC) for attemping to visit Turkey as a young single male with weapons training and flight training. I was denied at the airport for being in the on the no fly list and did some dumb shit cuz i was scared and drove to Canada. They turned me back but not before having a word with the CIA. Biggest faggot I've ever met in my life.
Yesterday I was pulled over for speeding. Cop got my license and ran it. Still on the TSC. He called for 19 fucking cops and they detained me for an hour while they called the FBI to confirm I wasn't a terrorist.
>>29454199
Pretty much he asked me some dumbass questions like "What is your favorite nasheed" and "Why are you trying to go fight for ISIS?" I Told him to suck a massive dick and I wasn't trying to fight for ISIS. He kept talking shit and making racial slurs about middle eastern people. Quoting "I hate those stupid sandniggers I fought them in AFghanistan they truly are subhumans." I'm half black btw he mocked me for that and said "You look like some kinda South Asian". That man was a dick and obviously bored out of his mind and really thought he caught a terrorist.
>>29436618
I have everything except 3 and 4. Will have 3 in fall.
>>29454269
what's interpersonal anyway?
>>29454177
You seem like a promising candidate. Work on getting citizenship AND valuable work experience in your field and you'd be set. Wish you luck, man.
>>29454199
>attempting to visit Turkey as a young single male with weapons and flight training.
Well, granted, that is a bit suspicious given the current situation with Turkey and their Islamic allies.
>denied at the airport...and did some dumb shit cuz I was scared and drove to Canada.
Another huge red flag.
>Biggest faggot I've ever met in my life.
>all of this post >>29454226
Well, I'll play the devil's advocate here. Seems to me that you were (unknowingly, of course, because shit like that happens) doing the same thing a regular, uneducated terrorist would do. Fly to Turkey with weapons/flight training, drive to Canada/other country, have a bit of a sketchy background, etc.
Sounds like he wanted to piss you off to see if you could spill something he didn't know. Jihadists are notorious for being short-tempered fools who'll swear you out while giving you valuable information if you piss them off hard enough, so maybe he saw an opening.
I'm not justifying what he did. He did a sloppy job and from what you've told me, acted like an amateur about it. But then again, maybe it was an emergency and needed to get some information fast. Who knows?
>>29454317
Yeah, he said that was what he was doing too and he apologized afterwards. The FBI said the same thing about what I did with the Canada shit. I was just scared as fuck they were gonna put me in prison for some shit I didn't do. Also I paid for that Turkey trip and wanted to go lol. Sorry for my shitty grammar playing Wargame
>>29454332
No worries, friend. Good thing you could patch it up rather easily though. And I wouldn't worry too much over the TSC thing, it takes time to get off the list and naturally, it's mostly a precautionary thing.
>>29454294
Interpersonal is basically social dexterity. How well and how fast you can make friends out of people, how likeable you are, etc.
If I talk first they'd let me be on their aircraft
I want to join the DIA. The CIA gets too much attention nowadays.
>>29454410
FBI took me off the no fly list. I don't know what they'll do about TSC though.
>>29454523
Why the DIA? Tell me about them.
>>29454527
I'm guessing that due to bureaucracy, the TSC might take a little longer.
>>29454523
I've heard bad things about working for the DIA. Bad workplace environment or somesuch.
>>29454542
That's what my handler said. I hate myself.
>>29454553
Shit sucks dude, sorry to hear that.
>>29436618
for you
>>29436618
I assume your life has been extremely painful
How sad did this concert become
Is the CIA hiring people with meme magic skills?
So I can't do like Big Boss, and go on missions on my own. Because someone left for turkey during the spring; when the dew is densest, and the lily's are blooming. And they commercially ask for votes the indecency of these goyim.
>>29437736
>>29438057
The CIA has its own style guide. Basically, if you're familiar with APA or MLA you'll do well under it but they also dd their idiosyncratic rules
http://qz.com/231110/writing-tips-from-the-cias-ruthless-style-manual/
>>29452193
I've always wanted an exciting life, and the feeling of being a part of something
big/important. And I'd love to participate in overthrowing socialist governments in the third world/the DPRK.
My other dream is to be a filmmaker though.
>>29450132
Manufacturing is picking up in my area, depending on your area there's entry-level warehouse and assembly jobs. They have pretty good benefits and run 10.50-12.50 an hour which is 2-4 bucks and hour over retail.
Then with a year or two in that you can afford night classes in a skill from a community college/technical training program. Just bite the bullet and don't spend anything you can save. Just get that GED man, you can go military > GI Bill > workforce or carve your own way but its almost impossible to find work without a GED/HS Diploma.
>>29458332
Go to school, major in something STEM or political (with an international focus)
learn a language, study abroad (and not a shitty one like French or German, something useful to defense)
keep a good GPA and a clear record
>>29456941
What? I don't understand.
>>29458332
Alright, you and I are on the same page. If you want to have a heavy hand in overthrowing socialist governments in the third world, you could always join the military and shoot for SOF positions, later on becoming a candidate for the CIA SAD program.
But for now, this guy >>29458689 has pretty solid advice. I suggest learning Russian or a middle eastern language. I want to add that you need to make good friends. Get experiences that you would want the CIA to know about when they interview your friends.
>>29458887
Thanks.
I'd like to add that if you look at the NCS application, they seriously stress some sort of experiences abroad. They're looking for people who can adapt to living abroad, demonstrated by work, study, or other long ventures overseas. Also, the best way to truly learn a language is immersion in a culture where it's spoken.
So if it is something you really do wish to pursue, go to school and get gid.
Why the fuck wold you advice to work for our government, become a teacher be useful to my country... I want to be part of something be part of this dick and fuck your mother.
>>29458689
>French or German
>not relevant to national security
Have you been asleep the last year?
Anyway, what are your credentials because this is information that you can get from looking at any IC agency's website? Your ideas about what recruiters are looking for is very scattershot, which tells me that you haven't actually met a recruiter for any any intel agency.
>>29457412
I know about the CIA style guide, but that's something they will teach new hires during their 6-12 months of initial training.
>>29459233
Your post was well thought out, friend.
>>29454091
DS&T, but Masters is preferred.
However, they have said that they will pay for higher ed for technical employees if they/you want to.
>>29454062
>being a spy
gtfo
>>29459317
Thanks Lori.
>>29436618
I meet every qualification but I hated the left-wing brainwashing of college, and skated by with a 2.0 GPA. Also I have a lot of porn and 4chan in my browser history.
>>29460416
You'll be fine with the latter bits, but your hating of college costs you your career later in life. Good job.
>>29459317
its a real thing, you can become a spy for the CIA, FBI and what ever by being in the right place at the right time. historically they have been people who study other cultures but they have also been people who work at book stores that were often visited by people on interest.
http://www.npr.org/2015/06/20/415453423/from-civilian-to-spy-how-an-average-guy-helped-bust-a-russian-agent here is an example.
>>29454226
>I'm half black
>"You look like some kind of South Asian"
mfw I'm half Indian and get asked if i'm Spanish or Italian American wop. Hang in there, anon.
i'm a tradesman, what the fuck is a bachelors degree?
>>29436618
Who else here searches up terrorist groups way too much?
>>29460814
something that is no where near as worth as much as it cost, a tradesmen will make just more than someone with a bachelors degree faster and will depending on the trade can and will make as much or more in the long run.
>>29436618
So I could technically be an agent in the CIA with a bachelor's in Geology.
Interesting.
>>29444236
GPA means nothing in college unless you are continuing your education or want grant money.
>>29436618
>clandestine services
>black ops
>>29436618
>Have all these things
>Want to join CIA
>Degree is in English so the best I could hope for is revising their office policies and procedures
Well fuck you guys too, I'm gonna start my OWN secret spy organization, with blackjack and hookers...
>>29461820
Archer?
>>29444183
Fun fact elder scrolls oblivion is 10 years old
>>29462811
FUCK.
JESUS CHRIST, I REMEMBER WHEN THAT GAME CAME OUT.
>>29436932
>join CIA
>get assigned to monitor 4chan for potential terrorists
>could have just stayed at home
>>29436688
>bored
>I'm still in school
Stay there.
>>29436932
>on a watchlist
Well, at least someone's thinking about me.
>>29462872
>Get paid `$40k a year starting to do that
>retire at 65 with a pension
>>29436656
Except it wasn't, really. I barely remember anything besides the Vorkuta mission.
The rest has just blurred into generic mess.
>>29460731
If you are applying to the DO, OOs cultivate and manage HUMINT assets. You will finding and managing spies
>>29461820
Forget the hookers, do you offer housing
>>29436618
>wanting to be a spook
(Watch spy game)
>not wanting to be a PMO in SAD
this is /k/, not /fag/
>>29436618
I have a bachelors degree but only my major GPA is above a 3.0 (3.05).
Do you think they would make an exception since my degree is in Actuarial Science (Mathematics) and not some easy shit like Political Science?
>>29459281
Sorry to burst your bubble so much. Yes, obviously all that information is publicly available, which I why I referenced actually looking at the NCS application. That's still more than you idiots ITT appear to have done.
Also, French or German speakers (and at native or near-native proficiency) are a dime a dozen. Good luck.
>>29464643
So basically you're an accountant? Can you talk coherently about world events?
You could probably get farther in the Directorate of Analysis than in the DI if you applied.
NewFag here.. how do I go about starting a career in tactical espionage operations.
ITT: Losers on 4chan pretending it's not awesome to be a fucking CIA agent.
Do you guys have any self awareness or do you realize this is jealousy?
>>29438946
The degree isn't that important over all but the easier the degree the higher that min GPA will be to the recruiter.
>>29466964
Sour grapes and all.
