Unreliable weapons
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I am looking for the crappiest, most unreliable firearms out there. If you have a model in mind please post it.
Rogak p18
>>29434573
>>29434580
>>29434585
>>29434589
Well, I think we've got all our bases covered.
Good job guys, nice thread.
>>29434557
Nambu type 94
>>29434585
Chauchat was actually pretty good when chambered in 8mm Libel; it only turned to complete shit after the disastrous .303 conversion. The magazines were always horrible regardless of caliber but the original gun itself was fine.
>>29434602
Unreliable? Maybe not. Crappy and dangerous? Absolutely.
G41 walther is definitely unreliable.
>>29434616
yes yes i saw that episode of forgotten weapons too
>>29434580
/thread
lol
>>29434573
>>29434580
>>29434557
Anything by Raven Arms, Jimenez, Bryco, Davis Arms, Jennings or Röhm.
>>29434585
It wasn't amazing, but as been said before and will be said again, the 8mm version could actually perform under good enough conditions, while the .30-06 didn't under ideal conditions.
>>29434589
It's a shame it was made because it crushed whatever chances the original GB had.
>>29434619
Was it the Walther that would sheae locking flaps like mad or am I thinking of the other one?
>>29434689
No holds barred, the worst current service rifle in the world.
You know it's bad when even the North Koreans have a better rifle.
https://youtu.be/uPZICnaFJgI
The PTRS is cool as fuck but it's a complete turd when it comes to reliability.
Soviet wartime reports generally agree that the gun rarely fired a single 5 shot magazine without malfunctioning.
Most troops preferred the PTRD which was lighter, more accurate, almost 100% reliable, and almost as fast when it came to practical rate of fire.
>>29434740
>while the .30-06 didn't under ideal conditions.
The chambers were cut too tight.
The Americans were asked by the french to provide chamber specifications for .30-06 ammo, and they fucked up the conversion to metric.
It was made even worse by the fact that the CSRG completely lacked any type of forward assist, so if the bolt didn't want to close because the chamber was too small for the round you were fucked.
>>29434775
T. German government
>>29434689
now that is literal shitposting
>>29434602
https://youtu.be/294X_1TYklg
>>29434580
I can still taste the slavaboo tears
>>29434557
I think wheelock pistols were worse, plus you had to wind then back up after each shot.
>>29435351
I highly doubt it.
>>29435351
Wasn't the SLRs made in the US?
The Bulgarians seem like they'd run better.
>>29435382
You had to manually load everything after firing your shot so that's pretty much not relevant in a typical fight.
Also they were typically used for different purposes, they could be kept loaded and ready without having to have smoldering match-cord at hand, or on the gun (which could be dangerous). As it didn't have a lit match-cord, it emanated no smell, like other loaded guns, and could thus be concealed on your person.
This thinking led to some of the earliest acts of gun control in Europe, with countries banning or restricting wheel-lock pistols, as someone could just carry a loaded pistol unsmelled and unknown and assasinate a lord or king.
For military purposes, these guns were often assigned to guards at gunpowder storages, as there was no naked flame/smolder like on the matchlock, and thus could be kept loaded there as well, with dramatically smaller risks.
It should be mentioned that wheel-locks were expensive and harder to make, and most of them were pistols, with very few being long arms.
>>29435410
>I-IT'S JUST THOSE S-STUPID AMERICANS
>E-EASTERN EUROPE S-S...strong...
>>29434557
:^)
>>29434557
I'll sell you my io ak
>>29435556
Hot strawman (I'm an AR fanboy btw).
>>29434557
>implying this is even a question
Now comes the king of the fuckfest, the Breda Model 30.
>>29434793
Why exactly did it fail so badly, anyway? What was up with it? I don't know much outside of the lube freezing.
>>29436864
At least post the L85A1 next time around.
>>29436864
>L86A2
>Unreliable
Post the A1 not later models fucktard
that one Calico gun, whatever that one shotgun is with the two magazine tubes, and the Nagant revolver (no, not that Nagant)
All three of these guns are unreliable to the point of being practically useless, and all three are pretty gimmicky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbzqWdD7LE
Try this classic.
>>29434573
Agreed, FDE is garbage and makes any glock worthless.
>>29434689
DESIGNATED
>>29434689
>There were complaints of jamming, the magazine cracking due to the cold and the rifle going into automatic mode when it was set for three-round bursts.[1] There was also a problem of oil being sprayed into the eye of the operator. Some injuries during firing practice were also reported
How do you fuck up that badly
>>29437558
SHITTING
Jimeneze. It makes a hi point look like a korth.
The only gun I've ever own that completely failed to fire. I had to tweak it to fire once. After that I took it to a gun buyback.
>>29437122
>Why exactly did it fail so badly, anyway? What was up with it? I don't know much outside of the lube freezing.
No idea what was actually wrong with it, but it wasn't just lube freezing.
Soviet reports claim it was equally unreliable in both hot and cold weather.
>>29437381
>that one Calico gun
No. Just because you saw a retard on YouTube cry about how he couldn't understand the magazines doesn't make them inherently unreliable.
>whatever that one shotgun is with the two magazine tubes
There's like 4 of those, be specific.
>and the Nagant revolver
No. It's not really a GOOD design in most aspects, but mechanically, it's supremely reliable, no light primer strikes, doesn't fail to index, etc.
>All three of these guns are unreliable to the point of being practically useless,
No, they work fine.
>and all three are pretty gimmicky
This is dumb.
UNRELIABLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRRwbhN4-sU
>>29438309
cringed, what a bunch of retards
>>29438382
>not knowing cokeman
>>29438309
What's the context behind that video? Looks like they got butthurt over an argument on /k/
>>29439230
Cokeman
>>29440160
God damn it, that guy is fucking brain dead
>>29434557
requesting nigger stolen ar lower zip tied to a rusty saiga receiver.
>>29438101
Nagants suck, but only if they've been rearsenaled. As designed it's an okay revolver for the 1890s, but you can't just throw a thick coat of bluing everywhere and expect nothing to start gumming up.
>>29440409
Don't do drugs kids.
He use to tripfag and spam the fuck out of /k/ too. I think he still spams the fuck of out /k/ and links to his own videos, but he does it pretending to be other people. Although it's usually pretty easy to spot, whenever someone posts as Anon saying that they like Cokeman, it's safe to assume that the "Anon" in question is really just Cokeman.
>>29434580
YES
>>29434557
Note: is dangerous to fire Ross Rifle while behind bolt. May result in death or serious injury.
>>29440795
Blueing is not a coating. Its a surface conversion with extremely negligible differences in dimensions from the converted metal. Someday, I hope that it becomes a bannable offense here for people to talk about manufacturing or metal working without knowing anything about it.
>>29436864
The only reason I came into this thread was for this post
>>29434580
oh fuck you faggot
>>29441148
Only one particular model of the Ross rifle had that problem.
Although Canadian soldiers distrusted the all the Ross rifles as the word spread, which is perfectly understandable.
The Ross rifles were bad for various other reasons tough. It mainly had to do with poor quality steel and poor heat treatment of parts which lead to breakages and sticky bolts.
The issue with sticky bolts was made worse by the fact that the British-made ammo the Canadians were supplied with during the war was terrible compared to the excellent Canadian-made ammo the Rifle was initially made to use. In the field a lot of the Ross rifles had the chambers reamed out larger just so that British ammo wouldn't jam the bolt after firing.
These problems were largely solved by the end of the war, and the last models of the Ross were genuinely good rifles, although very few were produced and by the time they got to the front lines the Canadians had gotten official permission to use SMLE rifles and the Ross rifles were just forgotten and sold off to the east. A bunch of them ended up being used by Baltic Soviet troops during the early stages of operation Barbarossa.
One thing the Ross rifle actually did very well was accuracy.
They were much more accurate than the SMLE and actually beat several varieties of Mauser rifles during international marksmanship competitions.
This probably had something to do with the fact that it was initially developed as a civilian competition rifle, and it has a much heavier barrel than a typical contemporary military rifle.
Most models of the Ross have excellent long range sights too.
