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>AR-15 Petiton draft submitted to parlament, Cutoff May 7. 21.9k and counting.
http://www.e111.ca
>Petition to add property rights to the charter. Cutoff May 13. 4.0k and counting.
https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-124
>Bill C-230 An Act to amend the Criminal Code (firearm — definition of variant) Status: Introduced
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8111356
>BIll C-246 Modernizing Animal Protections(Hunting - More strict measures against hunters/trappers) Act Status: Introduced
http://www.parl.gc.ca/legisinfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8122718
>Quebec LGR petition has wrapped up with a reported 58k signatures (42k digital). Public hearings on the bill expected to continue till mid april.
>Quebec Premier has said there will be no free vote on the matter, what a surprise.
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/2016/03/16/couillard-rules-out-free-vote-for-liberals-on-long-gun-registry.html
>Type 81 Preorders are live $1000 NR, Fixed or Folder ETA Q3 2016
http://www.tacticalimports.ca/type-81-p-426.html
>New patch of CZ858 $995 NR, Fixed or Folder ETA 1 week
Add westernmetal.ca to the pastebin or nah?
Wolverine planning on selling the last 400 CZ858s coming into the country next weekend. Last chance for a $1000 VZ58 type rifle for a long time.
>>29425971
sure ive been lazy but reworking the dealer list is going to happen sometime.
>>29426726
That sucks. But I'm getting a T97 and Pic related for an optic soon, so I think I made the right choice.
On that note, anyone know where I can read up on these things? How many were even imported, I wonder? And why aren't they still importing them?
>>29427851
Haven't heard much on any of it at all but there is a good article on the original QBZ-95 thats worth reading. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/27/qbz-95-bullpups-action-works/
>>29428026
Appreciate it, Anon. Hey, by the way, is modern .303 British safe to shoot in older guns? Some say yes, some say no.
>>29426726
Not sure if I want an 81, another vz58 or a type 97...
>>29428075
You talking SMLE or martini enfields?
SMLE is fine Martini i would not.
Where is my PAL , RCMP
you said there would be PAL
>>29428097
Mohawk. Based on the SVT, different barrel, cut gas system, etc. I just don't want to restore Grandpa's rifle and then have it asplode when I finally take it out.
>>29428232
I'd say its fine 54r has higher max pressure than .303br. If you see alot of damage to the brass switch to lower pressure loads. Handloads/reloads or lower bullet weight factory loads.
>>29428232
Probably, though you should stick with lighter loads. I'd be concerned about your scope getting smacked around by the brass.
So since only the lower of the AR 15 is restricted does that man I can do cross border shopping for everything but the lower?
>>29428618
Not quite, cross boarder shopping ITAR (The american import/export laws) matter more than our laws.
>>29428640
Found this in a reddit thread CTCS was having:
Grip, all internal lower parts, buffer tube, end plate, castle nut, buffer spring, buffer, charging handle, rails, flash hider, gas block, gas tube - if the order is under $500.
Basically everything except for the lower, upper, bolt/bolt carrier, and barrel.
>>29426726
If a vz. 58 is only $200-300 more than a CZ 858, I think I'd rather get the vz. 58.
>>29425362
Should I get a folding stocked Type 81 or a fixed stock
>>29430261
I personally think the folding stock looks great and would get one if I had the money, but it's what you want that's more important here.
>>29430261
I'm going to get a folding stock if the news from the first batch is positive.
>>29428970
The cz858 is a vz858
what the fuck are you smoking? Meth?
>>29430367
vz58 is not cz858, are you smoking that trudeau legal weed my friend
>>29430367
The CZ858 model is made from mostly surplus parts, including a modified former full auto bolt which can sometimes cause issues. It's generally a little rougher around the edges, compared to the VZ58. They're also made by different companies (CZ arms vs CSA)
>>29430367
Incorrect. Know what you're talking about before accusing people of injecting the same substance your whore mother was on while she conceived you.
>>29430447
>>29430434
I thought CSAs had some problems? I mean everything runs into problems occasionally but my CSA has been pretty great. I thought CZ was supposed to be the premiere brand? or do I have this backwards?
>>29430462
It's a vz58 under CZs brand...
>>29430480
No
>>29430447
Yes
>>29430463
CSA is the premiere brand made from all new parts. They did have some issues with the 5.56 models made from 2012-2014 having oversized gas ports which would result in the bolt cracking over time. The CZs had issues with the bolt sometimes completely disconnecting from the trigger due to the conversion. They were made from surplus parts.
>>29430463
The 5.56 CSA's had some issues. Stick with glorious original 7.62x39 and you're fine
Has anyone ordered from Brownells before? They're literally the only place that has shit I need in-stock, but apparently they won't provide a shipping cost until you complete the order. Really don't feel like getting a potentially massive shipping charge for a $20 item.
>>29430770
Join the club. $50 shipping on a $6 part.
I would just like to say i have given up on trying to buy a fucking airsoft gun in canada. i cant buy a gun that is under the fucking fps. and all the guns i can afford that are legal in canada are trash and the ones that are good are out of my price range. maybe next year...
>>29430839
See, this is exactly what I'm afraid of. Out of curiosity what shipping option did you pick?
>>29430886
>>29430877
Airsoft a shit. I got into real guns and never looked back.
>>29430886
I didn't order from Brownells. I bought a cross pin from Numrich, which is in Texas or something, because apparently there isn't a singe company in this fucking country selling SVT parts. So my wallet pays the price.
This is a dream come true, will be getting my PAL just as Type 81s are entering the country
>>29430936
What's this you've said to me, my good friend? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in conflict resolution, and I've been involved in numerous friendly discussions, and I have over 300 confirmed friends. I am trained in polite discussions and I'm the top mediator in the entire neighborhood. You are worth more to me than just another target. I hope we will come to have a friendship never before seen on this Earth. Don't you think you might be hurting someone's feelings saying that over the internet? Think about it, my friend. As we speak I am contacting my good friends across the USA and your P.O. box is being traced right now so you better prepare for the greeting cards, friend. The greeting cards that help you with your hate. You should look forward to it, friend. I can be anywhere, anytime for you, and I can calm you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my dank maymays. Not only am I extensively trained in conflict resolution, but I have access to the entire group of my friends and I will use them to their full extent to start our new friendship. If only you could have known what kindness and love your little comment was about to bring you, maybe you would have reached out sooner. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now we get to start a new friendship, you unique person. I will give you gifts and you might have a hard time keeping up. You're finally living, friend.
>>29430839
Order lots of parts to make shipping worth it
>>29430877
Just get one that's 410fps? What is illegal for them on be less than a certain fps? Whatever you do don't support capital airsoft
>>29431042
At least I'm not the only one who hates that cunt Jeff.
>>29430983
Y-you too....
>>29431042
>Whatever you do don't support capital airsoft
I'm actually looking at getting into airsoft myself. Redpill me on the compressed jew
>>29431042
>>29431094
What exactly happened to you guys? I don't ever recall having issues with them when I was living in Edmonton a few years ago.
>>29431248
Don't. If you have your PAL, the money is better spent on real guns and accessories. If you don't, get it instead. Sure, you can run around with your friends and shoot them in the dick, but you can do that with a Wal-mart special. Airsoft is equal to or more expensive than the real thing, it has an incredibly cancerous community, and often the guns get critical design aspects wrong, while often being pricier than the real deal.
>>29431540
Jeff's a cunt known for basically only being in it for profit-he knows he can pretty much act any way he wants-he has the market solidly locked, minus a few places, and as such, his arrogance is Western Gun Parts-tier. He sells broken guns, steals parts from new products and sells them, and surrounds himself with similar egotistical faggot employees. I dislike shifty, arrogant people. Being lied to is a pet peeve of mine, and the odd time I ran into him, he gave me that "Allison Redford" vibe, the "I think I'm better than you", haughty fuckface attitude. I dunno, he's got a bad rep around the airshit community, but he's played his cards well, and pretty much owns Edmonton's community.
But who cares, the real thing is better.
>>29425362
I'm just going to leave this here
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/08/trudeau-admires-chinas-basic-dictatorship
guys how the fuck do i get around the 5 round limit on my sks without getting v&
i know a guy who said his pin fell out and has a wooden block but just because he likes nigger dick and jail doesn't mean i do
the only way i can think of would be an ak pistol mag pinned at 10 however would it be possible to buy an ak mag pinned at 5 and pin it to ten?
Thoughts?
>>29432642
Pistol mags needs to be marked as pistol mags see pic.
As for 10 round AK pistol mags there are none in the country yet. irunguns is looking to bring some in.
Another way for 10 rounds is to get a STANAG mag modification and use XCR 7.62 pistol mags.
Last and easiest way is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1bCy0ouLZI
>>29432707
>>29432707
holding the mag cover seems horribly unsafe though,especially with milsurp in case of hang or slam fires.
also the xcr mag adapters look fuck ugly, i really want that banana mag look
so thats pretty much it then?
>>29432763
Yup seems like the AK pistol mags have been delayed because the RCMP said the CMMG Mutant Pistol is a converted rifle but IRG is looking to bring in another pistol marked AR/AK pistol with legal 10 round AK mags.
All that will probably take a long ass while.
>>29432785
what if someone created an sks obrez pistol with detachable magazines in this country to be sold as a restricted?
could the rcmp still slow down and fuck with it at every step of the way?
>>29432818
It would be the same as the CMMG and vz58 pistol it needs to be built originally as a pistol not converted from a full rifle.
>Only one place to take the pal test in N.S
>61 kilometers away
Absolutely devilish
>>29432830
but could someone feasibly start a company specifically to take advantage of this minor inconvience?
also this single picture made me not sold on the idea
>>29432964
I'm wondering how well it still loads from the top with stripper clips with this installed?
single mag doesn't look hideous but is probably a bitch to detach/reattach
>>29432642
Just unhinge the magazine and hold it with your left hand. Load the magazine with a 10 round clip and let the magazine down as she goes with the full 10 rounds and hold it while you shoot. It works everytim
>>29432763
>holding the mag cover seems horribly unsafe
Safety sally detected, do you wear safety glasses too you big dork? What the fucks gonna happen if you have a hangfire or slamfire when your holding the bottom of the magazine? Is it gonna rip your fingers off? No its not gonna do anything.
>>29433178
all this just to make the rifle work how it was originally designed.....fuck
apparently beowolf mags will chamber up to 14 rounds of 7.62x39 is this plausible? can anyone confirm?
>>29433178
also no but i do wear earpro,something about dropping 762x39 everywhere reminds me too much of spilling my spaghetti
>>29433211
Thats a negative, they hold 12 rounds and feed poorly. Its 14-15 of 5.56. The taper on the 7.62 screws up everything.
>>29430877
Don't bother getting one imported, even if it's over the fps CBSA will still take it
Why do they treat PAL holders like felons?
I remember as soon as 2 cops realized I didn't have a PAL they eased up. They were perfectly fine with knives.
>>29435433
Because that's how it is. You own guns? You're an evil, minority-hating, CIS Scum, Islamaphobic, cop-killer-in-training. The cops and government hate you, the average Joe is at best indifferent, and at worst, hates your guts. Fudds will betray your rights, the threat of mass bannings hangs over your head like the Sword of Damocles, and everything is crazy expensive.
Such is life as a gun owner in Canada.
Does anyone in Canada sell CZ75 Kadett kits?
If not, is it something I can easily import from Brownells or something?
>>29435623
>retard mall ninja with persecution complex detected
Oh, and by the way, we don't have gun rights.
>>29432642
How about you just shoot five rounds at a time like a normal, less retarded person?
Tax return well(?) spent
>>29432400
The article is several years old, it says nothing about weapons, and it's from a shit rag of a source.
Back to /pol/ my friend.
Where in Southern Ontario do people generally go shooting? I haven't seen too many places around since coming here.
>>29437414
Being from Windsor, the best one for me is Trails End Range in Chatham. Outdoor 25/50/100m range for rifle/pistol up to 50bmg and there's normally NONE ever there.
>>29436338
>I can't detect sarcasm: the post
Come on, now. I tried to be blatant.
>>29436338
You don't get to say what my rights are, faggot
>>29436350
>Implying 5 round mags isn't retarded
>>29432642
Just do what everyone else and depin your mags. The odds of getting caught are negligible.
>>29436499
Very jelly.
>>29439437
RCMP plz
>>29439484
Depin ur mags m8
>>29439484
>>29439500
After a while I would expect almost everyone to own a hand riveter.
>>29438069
You're right: Our society does, and we've overwhelmingly decided that guns aren't a right - they're a privilege.
Every court in the land, from provincial to federal, has agreed.
You don't get to decide that the laws of the nation don't apply to you, faggot.
>>29436499
If I ever get a Rhino, I'm gonna somehow try to find a way to blend the seam in, so that it looks, well, seamless.
>>29440747
Im thinking that too but have no idea how since the jacket is aluminium that causes alot of problems too.
>>29437505
the range that the soucie boys run is nice because of convenience, other than that join a club the spagets of caboto is cool
Will I get any sort of update on my PAL/RPAL after having mailed everything?
Or will I just get a card in the mail eventually
>>29442257
You can actually check your status online.
Provided that your application is filled out correctly and all your other shit is in order (photo, references, etc.), they will eventually mail you your license.
However, it is strongly advised that you call them as soon as your payment clears. This makes a big difference. You can turn a 9-month wait into a 2-month wait.
>>29442257
You'll get the money taken out of whatever account about 2 weeks after they receive it, and the application will show up online. After that just call once a week or so until you get the card.
>>29437505
Anything closer up Barrie way?
Late night bump
>>29444855
no ones here man
Where can I get an AR-15 barrel 18.5" and a full length floated M-LOK handguard?
I have pretty much everything else.
>>29445501
I would recommend asking either NEA or Alberta Tactical if they can fabricate a barrel if you can't find one.
>>29440282
>we
>our
>we
>decided
Nah, fuck you I do what I want and you can't stop me.
>>29440282
Locke's ideals about rights is that they are innate regardless of their recognition. This is the stance taken by most governments and organizations in the modern world and is the basis for modern democracy and equality. In other words, I reserve the right whether you recognize it or not, so eat shit.
>>29446962
Thank you for some sanity based Anon
>>29442879
Sharon gun club but it's pretty hard to get into. There's Silverdale in Niagara Falls as well which is pretty nice.
Anyway anybody here in the CF and can tell me what life is actually like as an Intelligence Operator?
>>29447555
It's pretty much impossible to join in as, so don't even mention in the recruitment process, because they get so many wannabes it's ridiculous.
You have to pick a trade, do some time, and then apply to transfer in. Intel trades aren't a direct entry thing.
Outside of pilot programs it's primally the most competitive trade to get into in the CF
>>29447334
>>29446962
>>29446797
>ITT: Sovereign Citizen goofballs that somehow think they just get to opt out of the laws and societal norms
>Am I being detained?
>I'm John of the family clan Smith, I don't recognize the authority of this court
Good luck with that, hopefully you piss off a cop and end up with a firearms prohibition
>>29447684
Well...
I started my application process like 8 months ago. I was really slack getting the medical stuff in order because I'm trying to delay what I want to do in life and have the army as an option. University is so damn boring so I didn't re-enroll this semester.
Anyway, I was told I scored very high on the CFAT and I applied for Int Ops and Infantry. I asked them outright what the chances are of me being offered a job with Int because the guy straight up told me the hire 10-15 of them A YEAR. He told me I might not get in right away since April is the start of the new fiscal year but there is a good chance I will get in within the year.
So now I'm waiting for the call. I'm guaranteed infantry if they don't want me for Int Ops so I'm debating on joining up right away as infantry and trying to transfer over in 3 years, or biding my time waiting for them to offer me Int Ops. Problem is I could be waiting for a year.
I'm going to go back in on Monday and talk to them to try and figure out what my chances really are. They said they're very competitive but that means fuck all when they hire like 1 person a month out of everyone applying nation wide.
Another question, what's day to day life for infantry like? I had a specific question. Do you live in Gagetown/Petawawa and just apply for courses throughout the year like the paratrooper or recon or arctic stuff? I read that you can sign up for the Rangers course and go to the States to do a bunch of courses as well.
I know I have a lot of questions but I'm trying to figure everything out before I make a life changing decision.
>>29446797
>Why do cops hate gun owners?
>I do not recognize the laws of Canada
>I do what I want
>>29447734
Fellow int op signup here, you been to army.ca? It really does have some good stuff to check out regarding int, but for the other stuff I'd say check with your local RC. RC New West has been nothing but helpful with me since I put myself up for application, and it's been speeding along ever since.
My recruiter put it well when I was talking about my chances in int: "If you're not happy with infantry, why are you signed up for infantry?"
>>29447837
Hey that's hilarious. The guy at the RC here in Toronto said something almost identical. "If you don't want infantry, don't put it on your application".
I had to reassure him I did want infantry if Int Ops wasn't going to be a realistic option for me.
How do you think you scored? Apparently even being allowed to apply for Int Ops is an achievement on its own. The lady processing my application kept raving about my score and the guy I talked to my second time back said my score was very competitive so I'm hoping they're not just bullshitting me and I have a real chance here.
What can you tell me about your talks with them? Did they let on you have a good shot at Int Ops?
>>29447695
Who said that? I'm just pointing out that legality=/=morality and that these are unjust laws which infringe on the natural rights of the citizens.
>>29447555
I've got a couple buddies who CT'd from Infantry to IntOp. Basically, their job is working on maps and helping with briefings. You don't do any secret squirrel shit, you don't do anything cool. You pretty much sit at a desk or talk in front of a bunch of people who may or may not be paying attention.
my PAL expires in 8 months when should I submit the form to renew it?
>>29448186
at least before 6 months.
>>29447734
>what's day to day life for infantry like?
Once you get to battalion, PT in the morning, then whatever random GDs they have for you to do. Some days you'll be done by 13:00, other days not til 16:00. You'll do FTXs every once in a while, sometimes just a week long EX in Wainwright (if you're not a frenchie or a Chicken Fucker), sometimes a week or two in the north (Arctic Ram), or in the States (3 VP just had some guys get back from 29 Palms training with the USMC), then the big EXs like Maple Resolve every spring.
Courses depend on what your battalion and your company need. Some of my buddies got to battalion and within a week were off on their Jump course (were posted to B Coy, 3VP) or their LAV Drivers course if they were in a Mech Battalion.
>>29448146
Natural rights don't exist. That's a Freeman-on-the-land construct.
>>29448300
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/locke-political/
It's literally the basis of modern democracy. The entire USA was founded on them.
>>29432982
Stripper clips work fine in mine.
>>29448177
Who does the secret squirrel shit? CSIS? It says on the website you can get into specialization such as counterterrorism or HUMINT etc...
>>29448223
Sounds pretty interesting desu. What are the random GD's? Can you give a couple examples?
So was I correct in that you can basically apply for any courses you're interested in and they will send you to do them if they feel there is time or need more people capable of doing those things?
>>29448331
Don't know who does the secret squirrel shit, beyond the pointy end of it (CSOR, JTF, CJIRU etc.) I imagine the specializations are being trained in focusing on a certain topic for your intelligence briefs.
As for Infantry day to day, GDs can be working in the CQ, cleaning your shacks if you still live in shacks, inspections, parades... basically anything that nobody else wants to do. As a no-hook new guy at battalion, you get the shit end of the stick a lot.
As for applying for courses, that doesn't really happen til you have a few years in. Sometimes they'll ask your platoon or company who wants to go on a course that has some open slots, other times you'll get told you're going on a course whether you want it or not. Once you've been in for a few years and have gotten some rank, your file manager will actually know who you are, and can start helping you point your career in the direction you want to go.
Has anyone tried those cheap single barrel shotguns from Cornwin-arms before? Apparently they're Turkroach made but they are around $200 so it's pretty tempting if they'll actually work.
>>29448317
That doesn't mean >>29448300 is wrong. Sure western democracy was founded on the concept of "natural rights" but that doesn't mean it makes and logical sense.
>>29449626
The point of natural rights is that they exist and belong to everyone, regardless of whether or not the government recognizes it. It doesn't mean I will ignore laws, it means I disagree with the laws and general stance of the government and I'll fight to repeal said laws.
Anyone know of a site that sells double break action shotguns? They don't seem to be as common as I thought.
>>29449649
I understand that is the point of them, but there is no objective evidence to suggest that rights magically exist for everyone. Rights are an abstract social construct.
>>29449653
Expect either low quality ones or super expensive ones. There is no middle ground on them, when they can be found. I know there are a few Norinco and Turkish models but nothing else until you get up to a few thousand.
>>29449664
>Objective evidence
>Of a political philosphy
>>29449672
>Expect either low quality ones or super expensive ones.
Not much of a concern, I just haven't been able to find either online. Do you know of a site that has a decent collection of either price range?
>>29449702
Try going through the various websites in the /k/anada general pastebin. Canadaammo.com might have some Norinco ones as well.
>>29449713
Cheers.
>>29449583
I have 2. Theyre freaking awesome.
Throw 3inch slugs through it and they kick like a horse. Turns everyone's head at the range.
>>29447792
They hate gun owners because they value independence and freedom? Yeah, we already figured that out, thanks for the reiteration.
>>29450254
So this one is worth the price?
http://www.corwin-arms.com/product/sinsinati-single-shot-26-inch-barrel-shotgun-screw-chokes-and-ejectors-black
>>29450309
For sure worth the price, if you like the longer barrel that is
I bought the 14" ones for about 20 bucks less
http://www.corwin-arms.com/product/sinsinati-single-shot-14-inch-barrel-shotgun-screw-chokes-and-ejectors-black
They eject spent shells pretty damn far too so watch your face
>>29449653
>>29449702
For new- Reliablegun, Bullseyelondon, Frontier Firearms, Prophet River, Cabelas, Wholesale Sports, Westrifle
For used and new- TradeEx.
There's a balance of different types and prices from all those dealers.
Should I buy a Glock 34 or an SP-01 Tactical for 3 gun?
>>29450361
Yeah I'd be doing both skeet and maybe some hunting with it. Good to know about the ejection though. I'd get the 14" one if I wanted something I could use for HD, but I blew all my money on a VZ58 a while ago that I'd rather use.
>>29450410
Gotcha. They all come with chokes as well.
Pretty killer for the price
>>29450449
Yeah, that's why I'm asking on here. It almost seems like a scam, or shitty product. I've bought from CW before so I know it's not a scam, so I wanted reviews.
>>29430992
don't go over $100 though then you get the DOJ or some shit paperwork email informing you of the need for said paperwork and a $200 US processing fee.
I ordered a firing pin and ejector for my marlin and things were fine fast forward a year and this happened when i tried to buy $100 of 45-70 brass
guys I need help with my 11" vz58.
fails to feed at least once every 10 shots. I took some pics of the jam last time so I could show you guys, the round doesn't make it into the chamber it gets jammed exactly as pictured
>>29450825
Magazine problem maybe?
>>29450825
Does this happen with other mags as well?
>>29450857
happens with all my mags but it's on my list of possibilities already that I will attempt. I'm just thinking in the mean time someone might have some insight. this is a picture from the bottom.
bolt is post vz gremlin manufactured and fixed
>>29450899
forgot pic
>>29450861
yes, all 5 that I own at least
>>29450825
Hate to say it, but the vz is a poor design. Get a good rifle and have a better time not replacing broken parts and trying to fix issues that shouldn't be there.
>>29451074
>Bullshit the post
>>29450938
This might be a stupid question but is your bolt seating properly? And what about your dustcover and recoil springs, are those set properly? I had a funny malfunction that came about from the dustcover not being attached properly so it wasn't getting the proper oomph from the springs.
>>29451074
it's a good rifle, a tried design and folds to half the size of my AR. get off the haterade man
>>29451140
yah it seats properly there are no hangups and the most I can say for my dust cover is that it's seated in the rails properly. I will check all the springs and channels in the carrier thanks
>>29451074
Based on what? Mine, and almost every else's works perfectly fine.
>>29451189
Yeah, I would think maybe the bolt return spring? Could also be an issue with the feed lips.
>>29448186
Don't hold me to this, but apparently there's a 6-month grace period after expiry, as of Bill C-42 being passed.
But I would still renew it ASAP anyways just as a "fuck you" to the whole system.
I still have 4 years left on my PAL, but I'm planning on renewing when there's at least 2 years left. Nothing says that I can't do this.
>>29428936
Problem is, the USA still wants an export permit, even under the $500 Canada exception. My opinion is just walk out with it since our border guards won't care, but if they find out you could be banned from the USA.
>>29451223
>can't let chocolate-covered toys in
>can't let gun parts out
YOO ESS AYYY
>>29450825
>11" vz
Is it worth having to keep it registered?
I see the <18.5" versions of guns and wonder why anyone would bother.
>>29451208
Yeah 6 month period where you can't buy anything, but you want to start the process before it expires anyways.
>>29451251
>memes
Pretty sure they're legal for a long time now dog
>>29451265
Because SBRs are fun anon. Not everyone shoots innawoods either
>>29437505
Sup fellow Windsor-fag. Any ranges in Essex county or is trail's end the closest? I'm applying for my PAL tomorrow.
>>29451265
the shorter and lighter a gun is the easier it is to carry around and aim all day. everyone pretends to preach that Chris Costa operator 0 super hyper extended support arm shit but the truth is it tires your arm out really quick. try holding your rifle aimed like that for 5 min straight, then do it all day every day, it's the same idea as a wall squat. the shorter rifle brings your support hand closer to your body while still getting your hand as far forward of its center of gravity as possible for leverage against recoil.
(that was worth the restricted class for me yes) I have enough NR shit
>>29451376
I'm aware of all that shit, just doesn't seem worth it to me.
>only allowed to shoot at ranges (so no innawoods ever)
>faggot retard transport/storage laws
>government can literally prohibit it any time
>seized because muh registry
>an extra few inches could have prevented this
different strokes I guess is all I'm
saying
>>29451298
thank you that to anon, this vz is obnoxious as fuck with a brake and it gives you a good dose of the concussion, the 74u flashhider just sends everything down range so I keep it on
>>29451440
so do you not bother with handguns then?
>>29451471
I've got a Tok and a Girsan 9mm, would branch out more but the high prices and restrictions turn me off of it. Might just get a Norc P226 clone next
>>29451494
Those Sig clones in 7.62tok seem pretty cool.
>>29451441
Does that style of brake actually do anything, or is just to focus the concussion downrange?
>>29452819
Most linear brakes like the 74u flash hiders don't do much for recoil.
So basically a flash suppressor plus they cut down on noise near to the shooter. (Not to be confused with a suppressor they don't actually make the gun more quite.)
On a side note in the case of original 74u's they are used as a booster to help cycle the action.
Does anyone recognize this funky foregrip attachment? Would mind one for my T97.
>>29453334
It has the quad-rail that some company brought in, I don't think they have any more.
The VG looks like some Tapco or some shit.
>>29453334
Chinese military quad rail i've seen only one in country. Some guy was selling a rifle with one on CGN for a stupid premium.
>>29453450
Defender RIS is what he called it still has the ad up.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1300381-Rare-T97-with-Defender-RIS-system?highlight=t97
>>29451441
Get a snake hound machine loudener, Im permanently banned from Phoenix indoor range for having that on an sks and an svt with baffles milled out.
>>29453533
I may have to get one of these for a The Patriot build. XD
>>29425362
anyone know where I can get an M305 in BC?
I haven't been able to find one for a decent price for a while.
Also; is it a decent choice for my first raifu? I wanna do some marksman shooting eventually and love the 7.62 NATO round
>>29453587
They are insanely loud, I was considering putting in on an m44 but never got around to it. You can concuss people up to 8ft on either side of you hense why I'm banned from Phoenix
>>29453533
Troll calibre: .50 BMG
>>29453655
It makes 223 sound like 50bmg
>>29453626
Bit heavy on the recoil, but if that's what you want. The most common recommendation for a start would be a .22 which I honestly think is a waste of time and money. An SKS would probably be better to give you an idea of what shooting is like and let you practice, plus you could get one and a crate of ammo for cheaper than an M305
>>29453719
>>29453626
If I started guns again I would buy a good quality .22lr first before the SKS. You can learn trigger control and marksmanship fundamentals much easier, especially since you can control the ammunition quality.
Anybody here build their own AR-15? If so, where did you shop for the different parts?
>>29454203
I haven't built, but these guys offer a lot of parts for building.
https://ctcsupplies.ca/
http://www.saskatoongunworks.com/
Good luck finding 20" barrels or A2 stocks in this country though.
>>29453825
When you're starting off it's just as important, if not more, to get down stance and get used to pulling the trigger compared to becoming an expert. And no, ammunition quality won't matter that much when you're starting out.
>>29454541
You can't do the first two with a .22lr?
>>29454648
Let's admit that .22 isn't quite the same as a centerfire calibre, especially one like .308 that the person who started this conversation wants to use. I started on x39 just fine, and most people these days start on that or .223. They were literally designed to be far easier to start on and learn, among other goals, by reducing recoil and cost.
>Plus .22 doesn't have all that much recoil or noise like centerfire ammo does, the experience isn't the same and may not be as enjoyable to start off on.
dont die on me!
Goddamn I hate this layout, I can't wait for today to be over.
>>29453500
>>29453450
>>29453426
So should I do something like pic related, just put some rails on myself? I like the minimalistic look, and after shooting a few different Type 97s, I just feel it pretty much needs a VFG.
Is it possible to buy a non-restricted Swiss Arms Classic Green in this country anymore? My understanding of the situation is that they were switched back to NR last year, but the only models I can find anywhere are the 16" barrel restricted versions. I thought they were popular rifles, why wouldn't anyone have any? Are they worried now that Trudeau is in power he's going to have them re-prohibited?
>>29458858
You'd have to get one second hand. They aren't really importing them anymore because the dealers are so nervous.
>>29457980
I have an angled foregrip on mine and it's pretty comfy. But I did get the new lower handguard because the factory T97's feels flimsy.
>>29459481
I dislike AFGs. They feel funny to my hand, and I'll probably keep her stock, since I'll be using pic related for that authentic look.
>>29454691
I've shot pellet guns that felt more "real" than my .22, I agree that intermediate cartridges are the best starting point for an adult novice shooter who wants to get into proper marksmanship.
>>29458858
They weren't that popular, they're expensive as fuck.
>>29458858
Keep an eye out some dealers are starting to bring in more NR models but they seem to mostly be the railed top models.
>>29459873
I don't really get the sudden obsession people have with top rails. Yeah you get to choose your own sights, but usually you can do it anyways, and there are options to mount scopes regardless, but you lose out on the native sights which are usually, though not always, calibrated out of the box.
>>29459939
Old school claw style scope mounts suck massive dick is why.
>>29459991
That's true. Doesn't mean sightless top rails are the way to go.
>>29460000
Nice Quads
But I'd always rather have a top rail 10/10 times over iron sights
Especially on an AR or anything with a tall from post.
I always prefer an optic with back up folding sights
>>29460034
Yeah, and most of time I'd eventually get a sight or scope for what I'm shooting eventually, it shouldn't be a requirement to use it however.
does anybody in this country have an SP-01 tactical in stock?
Besides the PTRS/PTRD, Lynx, etc, what are some other (and cheaper) options for a fun large-calibre weapon in Canada? I'd love a PTRS, but could never afford one.
>>29460326
there was a 1500$ .50 BMG AR upper on Canada ammo
>>29460326
You could build a mortar
>>29460326
DA50 cal
>>29460326
you could buy a black powder cannon
>>29460326
You could get an antique musket starting around 5-600. If you get one inspected you should be able to shoot black powder.
>>29460326
Not a ton in the country in the .50+ range that will be cheaper than a few thousand. Only thing I can come up with off the top of my head is the Dominion Arms/Norinco AR15 upper that is a single shot .50 which runs about $1700.
https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/da50-50-bmg-36-upper-receiver/
>If money is a concern you don't really want to go into these calibres anyways.
>>29460326
im sorry do you have the hookup for a fucking ptrs? if so link pls..
is there a retailer in Canada that sells headspace gauges?
>Brownells and Midway are going me weird errors when I try to buy there, maybe because of some US export bullshit, and can't seem to find anyone selling them in country
>>29461006
Marstar has lots of prtds and ptrss in Canada, just get your import permit and controlled goods license so they can sell them to you cause that's the only way to get them in Canada.
>>29461115
You don't need either. Marstar just fucked up once and doesn't want to admit this.
>>29461202
John says that to anyone. They're excuse is they're only selling them to a few individuals. When he said he's got a few crates of each, like he literally expects me to believe he's keeping crate of anti tank rifles for only a couple individuals? Maybe so, if that's the case then don't give me prices on them and then tell me I need multiple licenses after I have the payment lined up.
>>29461245
is that what happened? thats some serious faggot shit
>>29461202
>>29461245
I even had a gun store owner inquire for me and he said don't bother, marstar hardly deals with prohibited license holder's in Canada, he said John outright ignored his request to buy a full auto when he had permits to transfer it and shit
>>29461245
>>29461258
They accidentally put a public webpage on their website that they had imported a few and had them for sale, I assume for friends, and when people tried to order them he cancelled the orders on them and told them to fuck off then lied about requiring certain permits. To be clear, there is absolutely no restriction on the PTRS or PTRD rifle beyond any other non restricted firearm in the country. Explosive ammo is prohibited, but you can still produce and use FMJ and ball ammo without any issues for them.
>>29461285
This isn't what happened though you faggot, I emailed him with no prior knowledge of them even having them, and he said yes he has a few crates of each in Canada for 2500 per rifle, even gave me a shipping estimate, when I asked howhat I could pay though he said he cant sell them unless I have a controlled goods license. When I sent him and email from the cfo saying not only are the non restricted they're exempt from import restrictions because they're pre 1945 and he just got all pissed and said well you obviously know more then me. Then went on to ignore me.
>>29461312
That event actually happened. There isn't any need for a controlled goods license at all. No requirement anywhere. He just says that because he's a sack of shit and doesn't want to own up to his own idiocy.
>>29461285
>>29461312
the fuck is the difference? yeah ptrs and ptrd are NR and soneone could probably get them from slavland or have them already -- what does it matter if there is no ammo for those things to be had???
>>29461365
Because people can still make their own ammo for it.
>>29461386
meh, I guess some people are into that, but investing into custom reloading equipment, making your own ball ammo and waiting for months so you can get lucky ans pay through the nose to get a dozen rusted steel shells, all just seems way too much when you are dealing with surplus slavshit
>>29461447
You can make your own casings as well, and if somebody wants to then it's up to them. John from Marstar shouldn't be lying to people about what it takes to buy them.
>>29461447
not him but ptrs is one of my wishlist guns because of the guards rifleman squads in coh2. I would be willing to shell out 2500 for it and i think you could get custom brass from stateside. theres companies dedicated to just that
>>29461464
yeah, I know, just seems way too much time and money to me, but people can do what makes them happy
gah, that guy is sketchy, there are plenty of stories floating around CGN about him making shit up, sending people wrong shit and claming that's what they ordered and so on.
people keep excusing his assholy behavior by that one raid marstar had on them, but that's bullshit, not like it gave him ptsd lol. besides, he was probably doing some grey area shit for the cops to go knocking down his door
>>29461509
>not like it gave him ptsd
It did, and now he won't sell it to anyone unless they have a controlled goods license.
>>29461509
it didn't give him ptsd he was a faggot prior now hes a bigger faggot since getting his door kicked in. blame the rcmp
>>29461509
the story
http://www.brucemontague.ca/html/0428.html
>>29462240
Funny how people take things differently.
Silvercore (big-name firearms training school in BC) once had their shit pushed in by the RCMP. They didn't get salty over it. Many students who trained with them often do so as a requisite of joining the RCMP, and they were always supportive of their students.
The biggest thing to happen between Silvercore and the RCMP is that the RCMP recently apologized to them for the ruckus they caused. The RCMP actually making an official apology is something very rare and impressive.
>>29462292
RCMP plz go, nobody likes you
what's a good place to buy a folding stock for the VZ?
>the standard one is cheap, don't think there are other inexpensive solid options
new-old-stock would be best, thanks for any tips guys
>>29462432
not in stock but send them an email and see if they can help
http://www.zahal.org/products/sa-vz-58-metal-folding-stock?path_parent=219005
>>29462432
Ebay my man
>>29462810
First check to see that it's not ITAR-regulated.
Question for you Canadians:
When choosing a Restricted firearm to purchase, how (un)important is practicality to you?
Do you pick your Restricteds after putting a lot of rational thought into it, or do you go wild with your purchases since they are nothing but range toys in the eyes of the law?
>>29463193
Bit of both, though it's largely just what I think I'll enjoy since I don't expect to be using any restricted gun to any real extent outside a range.
>>29463193
my glock and AR i bought with the intention of competition, which probably won't happen in the near future.
my P38 was a steal of deal, my GSG 1911 for a cheap plinker, and my 629 and beretta cause i wanted them.
For anyone who's used ctcsupplies before, what do they mean by custom orders? Like, do I order something, they go and get it, then I buy it from them?
Have this. What do?
>>29464108
What the fuck is this?
>>29464108
upload it
>>29464108
Burn a copy and mail it to me. Or post it up.
>>29464108
tell where you got it. They try to keep this shit hush
>>29464128
what determines a firearm's classification in canada (based on the rcmp labs input) its good knowledge because they try to monopolize on knowing what is legal because they are faggots and wish you couldn't own funs
>>29464153
Licensing Agreement
The Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police maintains sole ownership of the software package known as the Firearms Reference Table.
>tldr pls leak this
The Commissioner's representative maintains, solely, the right to distribute the data and the associated images of this automated application, as well as all inclusive materials, in the format in which it is presented. You are expressly prohibited from copying, duplicating, reproducing, or otherwise transferring the software and materials for any purpose whatsoever.
This software and the materials contained within may not be modified, networked, loaned, sold or distributed in total or in part, nor may any derivative works be prepared based upon them. You may not electronically copy or transfer the Software or the materials from one computer to another, over a network or otherwise.
>>29464108
dubs confirms you should upload somewhere for all your cdn /k/ommrades
>>29464408
wrong post i meant these dubs
>>29464645
It's perfectly ethical if the point is to keep you from having any kind of gun by making the laws arbitrary and nearly impossible to keep up with.
>>29462432
Corwin has some. Getting expensive though.
>>29464108
Upload for the glory of Satan.
>>29463950
Custom orders usually means they import stuff they regularly don't stock. Email them for more info as it can easily take 6+ weeks for things to be imported.
>>29463193
75% range toy
25% Just incase
Anybody here in the army? Thinking of going in active force as an infantry soldier. Is it worth it?
>>29432925
m8 if u live in nb i'm about to be avin a giggle at u
>>29439500
naw im good
>>29442879
just find a gravel pit like every other rural ontarian ever
i shoot trap in gravel pits all dey nigga. shit's tight, nobody to fuck with, free to use, etc.
>>29465219
You know of any gravel pits in southeast Ontario?
>>29464108
shieeettt
>>29432925
Dude theres atleast 5 places if you don't live on one of the far ends of the provinces
>>29432925
You don't have to stay in your province to do the CFSC, if it's closer to hope a provincial border then do it.
>friend texts me and says RCMP called him for interview
>check website
>"your license has been issued"
didnt know they worked on saturdays
>>29467361
Congrats anon
Waiting for mine to arrive after it was issued was the longest week or so of my life
>Checking mail every day after I finished work
>One day it's suddenly there
>Didn't even finish going home to change or anything, just turned around and went and bought an 870
>>29467361
Well they mail out everything the Friday after it's issued, so you might be in for a wait.
does anyone here go to the range at shooters choice in waterloo? I'm a member at Bridgeport rod and gun and I fucking hate the people that go there. 300% fudds. I'm just wondering if its any better at colby
>>29465186
reg force infantry is shit. join the air force and get transferrable skills. also you won't break your body that way. I spent 3 years in 1 RCR and hated it. switched to reserve and it's better. more like a hobby now
>>29467944
Now I'm imagining a guy in a suit going through his mail, freaking out over his newly issued PAL, and getting the fuck back in his car to drive to the nearest gun store.
>be gun store owner
>see sweaty, disheveled guy in a wrinkled suit barge in
>"GET ME A GUN"
>w-what for, sir?
>"I'MMA HAVE ME SUM FUN"
>o-okay, please don't hurt me
>this guy is clearly nuts, I should ask for his PAL and maybe that'll get him to back off
>he shows me his PAL
>it's still stuck to the letter from the RCMP
>ah, I see
>he walks out of the store cackling, while holding his new Remington 870
>>29468794
Sorta close to be honest
They even noticed that my PAL was clearly brand new. I actually had to run to the bank to get my debit limit temporarily increased because it was 1.4K (870P with Scattergun Tech ghost ring and Surefire foreend)
No regrets
>>29468794
Mine was pretty close. I nearly blew their door off its hinges to go buy an M305 when I got my PAL.
