So I ended up working security at a party in a sketchy neighborhood and there was a shootout from a fight that started inside and my bersa .380 ended up jamming on me(it's been doing this a bit at the range as well) but luckily the other guard had a glock 19 on him. It was cleaned not too long before that night too so it wasn't cause it needed cleaning. My question is: what gun should I replace it with that is concealed carry?
>>29401853
A. Fucking. REVOLVER.
>>29401853
If you like glocks, a glock 43 will do just fine if you want a small frame. You can also conceal a glock 19 if your build suits it.
Alright I'm not normally like this but your CC piece should be 100% reliable no questions asked. A cz, glock, or sig are all great choices. For your situation I'd go with a cz p-07, they're easy to conceal, shoot great, not pricy and 100% reliable. If you have a gun that messes up 10% at the range, don't carry it, don't bargain your life on that 90%
>>29401853
>So I ended up working security at a party in a sketchy neighborhood
How about stop fucking doing this before you get killed?
>>29401906
And the CZ shill finds his prey
>>29401853
You got in a shootout and survived even though your gun jammed? Green text that shit familia.
>>29401919
>be me
>hired as security for a warehouse party
>sketchy ass spic neighborhood
>party goes on ok up till around 2 am
>hear gunshot from the inside
>everyone running out and trying my best to control the situation
>firefight starts on the outside
>all the party goers are all trapped outside now because of the hail of bullets
>bullets start coming my way so I grab bersa and try firing
>jammed
>ohshit.jpg
>try clearing it but other guard just tells me to bring everyone outside in while he gives cover
>cops show up and start firing themselves
>by the end of it cops, firefighters, and paramedics arrive.
So any other recommendations?
>>29401918
He mentions other guns besides a cz and yet hes a shill.
>>29402126
Do you prefer OC or CC
>>29401853
Makarov, man. It's even got more oomph than a .380.
>>29402043
I've never had a gun jam in an emergency, but I have terrible dreams about it. What did it feel like?
>>29402043
Either you are a complete dumbass, or that's a load of shit.
>>29401853
I do keep hearing of Bersas not comparing to Maks (which they are seen as an alternative to) in reliability.
>>29402144
CC
>>29402162
Like you just made the worst mistake in your life
>>29402043
Not even Gecko45 tier......
If its a bad area I'd be carrying a full-size gun OWB and a spare mag. Maybe even an extendo. G17, M9, or an M&P works. If you want to conceal carry an M&P shield or G43 works well. But you'll sacrifice capacity. If you work for a firm get an idea of the guns the other guys carry so you'll be able to share mags.
>>29402169
Put my vote for "load of shit." "Armed security" and carrying a Bersa? No, son, if you were "armed security," your company wouldn't let you carry something like that.
>>29402176
Is your budget below or above $500?
>>29402233
>>29402169
informal employment
I say carry two, one for how you normally carry(IWB,OWB,Shoulder holster? Maybe three for SH, a full size at that) and other for ankle carry, say a small .380 or snub nose revolver( S&W snubnose, model 36,38,49, snub model 10, snub 19/66, snub 686) or a Ruger SP 101 in 2.5 or 3 inch, they also make a 3 inch GP 100, or a LCR, but it's polymer and harder too shoot I heard. Or heard good enough things about Charter arms, make snubby .38's and a 3 inch .44 special.
After that go with a Glock(don't own one but seems pretty practical for the job) or the CZ compact, CZ sp, CZ p-07 or a beretta, maybe a bit smaller one in .380, you can get a sexy as hell 70s for around 300-400 off gunbroker. Maybe one of those old S&W automatics like a 569 or something. Or since you had a shitty bersa try a real PPKs or a Astra constable. Or you can go full operator and get either a Sig or HK.
>TLDR compact or normal pistol for how you carry now or switch carry style. Ankle revolver. I would say get a snubby SP 101 or 686 or 19/66(66 is stainless) all those are .357 and can easily use .38 hollow points +P.
>>29402252
I'm willing to go above
>>29402265
So, no security license, acting as security, and shooting in and among cops? Even bigger bullshit.
>>29402272
Honestly OP you won't go wrong with any popular polymer frame. But I would go with a g26 or 19 so you and your buddy can exchange mags on the fly.
But if you don't, Sig P320's may be more reliable
than Glocks for the same price and have a bigger flushed magazine capacity, and they're completely modular with each other models
>see pic related
>subcompact frame with a full size slide
>>29402293
believe me or not. If you couldn't tell from how I started this thread I wasn't here to tell stories. It seems I really only started getting tips when I actually told the story though so at least that's something.
>>29402336
whoops that's a p250.
But the P320 is an updated and improved version of the p250
>>29402336
it looks like glock might be the most likely turn for me
>>29402349
A news article would add substantial credibility.
>>29401878
Fucking kek
You're right though
>>29401878
Nigga a revolver is only good for selfdefence and a back up not a fire fight
>>29402394
Not OP, but it seems like this might have actually happened in Texas
>>29401853
>luckily the other guard had a glock 19 on him
I think you answered your own question already Anon.
>>29402394
I'm actually trying to find one
>>29402436
Yeah I'm actually from Houston
>>29402233
Wrong. I've seen guards with FMK's and skyye whatever the fucks
>>29402043
News article or stop posting
>>29402043
bersa thunder is a blowback action (fixed barrel, only slide moves).
As such, if you limp wrist it, it wont cycle properly.
Stop being a pussy and hold your gun firmly.
Everytime my wife used to use it, it would jam. Until I showed her how to properly hold it while firing.
>>29402394
I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We “RTFers”, by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We’re cops, we just don’t get the glory. [Somehow, I imagine the real police wouldn’t agree”]I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the “Deadly Duo” of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.
>>29403960
Thank you, Mall Ninja!
>>29403984
If you want to laugh at somebody, try laughing at the sheep out there who go to the mall unarmed trusting in me to stand guiard over their lives like a God.
>>29403485
How do you limp wrist while shooting for your life?
My targets show signs of a death grip, when I double as fast as I can.
Also, I put 3000 rounds through a bersa.
Not one problem ever.
Unless you count riding the slide stop, or forgetting to take off the safety.
I'm calling bullshit on my bersa jammed.
PF-9 has been proven to be effective in "sketchy" neighborhoods
>>29404469
Still doesn't make up for the fact that Kel Tec is a garbage company
>>29401853
>other guard had a glock 19 on him
Gee, why not get a Glock 19?
>>29404469
Pic related
>>29401853
>shit that happened
>shit that never happened
Hmmm....
>>29401853
M & P Shield and don't cheap out on the ammo.
What did you have loaded in the bersa? They're supposedly pretty damn good.
>>29404578
>bersa
>good
anon pls
>>29404589
Hold it right, and break it in.
>>29404589
i'm having a way more fun time shooting my bersa than I ever did with my sig p938 or glock 26. I guess some people get cuckolded models but mine is reliable as fug and actually fun to shoot
>>29403960
I call bull shit...
>>29404589
what's wrong with bersas? I'm thinking about getting one
>>29403960
Gecko45.
I missed you.
I love my Bersa.
>>29404589
You spouting bullshit or do you have actual experience with Bersas?
>>29406646
Nothing. Bersas are solid handguns. It seems like some people on /k/ think it's a shit-tier manufacturer cause of some lemon batches. Other people on /k/ swear by them as being reliable shooters.
I will admit I did have a lemon Bersa Thunder 9 Pro the guide rod and spring broke after 400 rounds of WWB 115gr during a range trip and I could not for the life of me get the slide open. I called Bersas customer service told them about what had happened to my pistol and they paid for the shipping to one of their repair centers. They replaced the whole slide assembly, I do not know how they managed to separate the slide from the frame without destroying the frame cause that thing was fucked must have used Voodoo Brazilian witchcraft. Since then it's had about 1.5k-ish rounds through it without any failures that wasn't due to shitty ammo (Brown Bear).
I now own a Thunder 40 Pro, Thunder .45 UC Pro, and Thunder .380 which have all worked flawlessly with over 1k rounds through each of them.
Inb4 Bersa shill or poorfag.
>>29404044
Never change /k/.
>>29401853
I used to carry a Bersa as a pizza guy, and thank God I never needed it, it was pretty jam-tastic.
>>29407565
thanks for the Input
>>29401915
This right here.
If it's in a shitty neighborhood, shitty people will come. Shitty people tend to hate badges, and will definitely not respect/listen to you. You're more likely to get shot for trying to throw somebody out, or for finding something when you search them on the way in. (You did at least search them right?)
>>29401915
No shit.
I used to be a bouncer and I quit after eventually realizing how insane it was to take on that kind of liability. Forget getting killed, try on a few personal injury lawsuits.
They would have to pay me a real fucking fortune to deal with that shit.
>>29402424
Motherfucker had a Bersa Thunder. What did you think IT was for?
>>29403960
That is some fucking nostalgia right there.
>>29401853
Just get a g26 and shut the fuck up please.
My Bersa 40 mini is alright, except:
>cracked frame
>won't cycle steel cased
>kicks like a mule
It looks cool, takes down easy and is completely ambidextrous, though.
