Why french want to replace their kick ass Famas with that aweful aussie bullpup f90 rifle?
What, exactly, is the problem with the f90?
>>29398137
Have you ever been in the same room as a FAMAS?
>>29398146
It's not french rifle also it seems to be not a big upgrate
>>29398162
>not french
Thales Group
>>29398137
Because Famas is a piece of shit? Also nice memes
Why?
Gas operated not delayed blowback with extraction problems
Not 'bugle' handle
Not 25rd magazine
>>But basically now Thales have ownership of ADI, they can pretend Austrian gewehr is proper French fusil and non-chauchat or lebel themselves a semidecent fusil
>>29398137
is that a famas?
>>29398149
Have you?...
Australian AUGs can't even fire American 5.56mm variants without issue...
>>29398137
France doesn't have a small arms industry no more. They closed the factories in the early 00's, trying to make a 100% French design would cost way too much and wouldn't be any better than current available designs.
The Famas in the French military, already a rather old design with its share of issues, are old. They haven't been constructing any from scratch for a long time, they have to order particular parts from random factories which alse causes issues since they don't have the original tooling.
Anyway I think the French military is already switching to the HK417 and HK416 in small batches to replace both FRF2 and Famas. They've beeng buying FN Mags AND FN Minimis for quite a while to replace the AA-52.
>>29398310
too bad today is the 27, eh?
![DSC_0046[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/moi9Ia0.jpg "DSC_0046[1].jpg")
>>29398321
More recent pic maybe?
>>29398330
neat famas, but what flavor of pringles are those?
![DSC_0045[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MnbborU.jpg "DSC_0045[1].jpg")
>>29398333
the chicken ones
>>29398333
>>29398338
Roast Chicken Pringles taste terrible
The only good Pringles flavours are Original and Sour Cream and Onions
>>29398343
vinegar pringles were the shit
![DSC_0243[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MyeR0wO.jpg "DSC_0243[1].jpg")
>>29398343
ur tastes a shit m8.
>>29398310
is that a FAMAS?
>>29398343
Fuck you buddy, french onion pringles are lightyears better then sour cream and onion
![DSC_0221[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BAKLCty.jpg "DSC_0221[1].jpg")
>>29398370
No it's a tactical baguette launcher with optional white flag attachment
>>29398137
Protip : the F90 didn't even make it in the final phase of the tender. Those did : HK416A5, SCAR L, ARX160A3, some Sig rifle (possibly Sig 556) and the VHS2. The most likely to win is the HK
>>29398310
I don't know for him, but I have.
![DSC_0010_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XguhwCX.jpg "DSC_0010_1[1].jpg")
>>29398399
...Is that the fucking TTA combat vest?
I pity you.
>>29398343
The only good flavour of pringles is texan barbecue
>>29398137
It's unlikely it will be the F90. They will probably pick the scar or the hk416 like the SF did.
>>29398330
>MAC50
BONER
>>29398464
>It's unlikely it will be the F90. They will probably pick the scar or the hk416 like the SF did.
SCAR-L seems rather unlikely due to cost in mass deployment. Maybe a simplified version like the FNAC?
I really hope it won't be the HK416...
>>29398514
I want to believe.
>>29398361
My basketball american, i fucking love salt and vinegar but i have problem with finding them lately. Did they stop making them?
>>29398425
Looks like, the poor soul.
>>29398425
Yeah, those were shitty time, we did a massive command of ciras in January but we received them only in middle of march...
>>29398522
I can only assume they did, I haven't seen them since I was 13 or 14, and that was 10 years ago
The close I've gotten was Lays Salt & Vinegar and they're pretty good if you're looking for a vinegar chip
>>29398514
What's wrong with the HK?
>>29398518
>a polymer Famas
SPACE AGE TECHNOLOGY
>>29398219
It's a subsidiary. No French input into the design, it's like saying the LAV or Piranha 8x8s are American because General Dynamics owns them.
>>29398338
Goddamnit Bibelot-kun, you're not supposed to slack around at the range.
>>29398564
Cost compared to similar platforms.
>>29398878
Said the man who was painting white his Leclerc's interior. (not him btw)
>>29398137
They are completely worn out.
Except those used by the Gendarmerie and the Navy since they're the more recent G2 model (and they aren't used too much).
>>29398330
>MAC 50
Wow. Talk about extended service life :/
For the french-speaking /k/ommados, here is a survey of french ammo production and use, published in january. Interesting read if you're into that kind of thing. And you have a couple pages about the FAMAS ammo problems.
http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/pdf/rap-info/i3361.pdf
>>29398137
>Famas
>Kick ass
You and I must have held different rifles, anon. Creaky as fuck, 25 round mags, no UGL...
>>29398318
The AA52 is pretty much long gone, now. It's embarrassing, even the UK has more of a surviving gun industry than we do now. Fuck this government for letting it die.
>>29398162
>upgrate
>grate
>Cheese
Nice meme
>>29399078
>no UGL
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>29399032
That's fucked up...
>France shut down its Famas factories in 1999
>GIAT stops manufacturing F1 5.56 the same year because not commercially viable
>France starts buying modern 5.56 from IMI in 2k6
>turns out those rounds don't stabilize with a 1/12 twist rate, so are pretty much useless past 50 meters
>they wait a whole year and buy ammo from the UAE which are to F1 specs except copper case instead of steel
>starts having accidents, they wait almost two years and forty accidents because of exploding cases before they ban the ammo
>still using Famas F1 to this day in Afghanistan and Africa...
The shit French soldiers have to put with. Unbelievable...
>>29398564
>What's wrong with the HK?
Every HK MR223 and MR308 I've seen at the range has broken down. Every last one of them.
I know it doesn't necessarily reflect on the military HK416, but it doesn't inspire confidence. I also don't like the fact they charge an arm & a leg for what's essentially an old & simple design.
(I'm a euroPEON, so MR223/MR308 instead of your MR556/MR762)
>>29399113
Those things are the coolest
>>29399301
>Those things are the coolest
But they were made irrelevant due to dedicated grenadiers in their squads. 40mm HE.
>>29399231
French economy and political sphere is always full of disastrous short-term savings. The army is not exception to the rule.
Nowadays they want to get more civilians to do cleck jobs in the army because it's supposedly cheaper. I can't wait for the frictions this will cause.
We had civilians keeping the bases too, before the terrorist attacks made them realise that mall security was maybe not the best solution to repel an attack.
And for some reason 4chan doesn't want me to upload my famas-related pdfs. Have some manuals while I try to figure this out.
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/manuals/FAMAS%20F1%20manual%20English.pdf
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/manuals/FAMAS%20F1%20manual%20French.pdf
>>29399324
I wouldn't say irrelevant, an APAV 40 have a lot more power than an 40mm HE.
>>29399324
You mean the LGI ? It's 51mm IIRC, and far from stellar.
(cue long rant about the current lack of 60mm mortars and the role of the 81 LLR since the turf wars with the artillery)
>>29399498
No, I mean underbarrel launchers. And not specifically for the french.
Just observing that rifle grenades went entirely out of style once the 40mm HE came into vogue.
>>29398343
>ignoring pizza
>ignoring honey mustard
Get the fuck off my board, shitlord.
>>29399508
If I remember correctly, rifle grenades are heavier, don't need a tube strapped to the gun, go further, generate more shrapnels, can be of various shapes, are less precise, can fuck up your barrel and have a bigger recoil.
It's all a matter of choices.
>>29399545
Whereas UGLs are vastly lighter to carry compared to numerous heavy grenades, can be fired effectively instantly instead of setup time, are much more accurate and can have digital laser aiming, have a greater rate of fire, can carry more ammunition on individual soldiers and don't prevent use of the main weapon or foul it up over time. The "bigger boom" is only marginal, and the extra range is false, the M320 and AG36 can propel to 400m. The French rifle grenades only really have sights out to 320m.
They're a massive improvement, thats why basically everyone has swapped over to them. The only reason the French army doesn't use them is lack of money to adapt the Famas properly.
French army has been getting shafted in the budget for years now. Lots of stuff it needs not being given.
I'll derail this thread, and post pic.
Here's a little souvenir from my training in CENZUB
>>29399646
Here are some pics of the town.
>>29399590
Don't they use grenades with bullet traps so setup time is irrelevant? And can they shoot shaped charges?
>>29399657
Fun thing, the guys you can see on this pics were all Field Officers, from France/England/New Zealand/United Kingdom/Portugal/Spain attending the école de guerre to become General, we train for few days to do a presentation to them so they could see how it's to fight in town, then they took had to take our place...
We had Many laugh that day.
>>29399663
There's a big difference between fishing a clunky grenade out of your kit, unhooking it, taking the correct stance for the huge recoil, strapping it to the end of the rifle, aiming and firing...as opposed to just aiming and firing.
They can shoot shaped charges, but they're rather outdated. If you're wasting weight carrying them, but still needing to carry a Gustav or AT4 because the shaped charge grenade is shit and can't handle heavier vehicles, then what's the point anyway?
Not to mention, I don't like the idea of having to get within 100-200m of a fucking hostile vehicle one bit. Give me a Gustav, or better yet an NLAW.
>>29399721
Your opinion which I respect. I prefer to have a bunch of guy all able to shoot grenades with a twelve meter kill radius at shorter range than one able to shoot more grenades with a 6 meter kill radius at a longer range. You know what would be even better? Being able to do both on one rifle.
>>29399663
the fuck is this grenade?
>>29399752
>>29399769
American made door breaching grenade, shit is as long as a famas.
>>29399747
Funnily enough, the only rifle which I know has that going for it is the L85, although their rifle grenades don't really get issued any more since the swap to UGL. Probably sitting around in storage somewhere for if SHTF.
It's not one guy, generally sections have between 2-4 UGLs in them, depending on who you're rolling with. Given the much hgiher rate of fire and easier aiming, the output downrange tends to be a lot higher.
>>29399803
The VHS2 can too.
>>29399814
Sweet. Good for it.
VHS2 as Famas replacement when then? Would ease the transition very nicely.
W-what's wrong with the f90?
>>29398316
Citation needed.
>>29399838
Here's a light street that try to stop an amx30-B2.
>>29399747
> Being able to do both on one rifle.
>strap on UGL
>get special barrel so oyu can still use rifle greandes
>load UGL grenade AND rifle grenade
>pomf
>POOMF
double the team, double the fun as they said
>>29399752
is sector with red cross/crescent supposed be non-hostile area?
>>29399890
its there to give the Israelis something to target ;)
>>29399590
Had the chance to visit the commandos recently, they still used FAMAS instead of HKs with UGS because it was lighter.
They are transitioning to independant grenade launchers, though.
Seriously, apples and oranges. French infantry doctrine revolves around the use of grenades a lot, so the FAMAS is designed with that in mind. You can't equip everyone with UGLs.
And it allows you to do some damage to an armored target or a reinforced building without having to carry an AT-4.
>>29399769
Simon, Israel-made door breacher.
>>29399854
and here's a smoke grenade in the street.
>>29398343
>no cheddar
Fuck you too, guy.
>>29399890
those are international logo which you aren't supposed to shot at if you reste internation laws.
There is the red cross which are mostly christian country, the red croissant for muslim country, and the red crystal, which isn't related to religion.
Also, I hate to run in those smoke, we had to throw 3 of them in a street so we could cross it, we almost puke our lung because of them, but hey, better than taking bullet.
>>29399828
The VHS2 looks pretty good on paper, it can do everything the FAMAS can while being NATO friendly and allowing for more options. the only unknown is the reliability of the action and the internals.
>>29399778
>American made
SIMON/GREM is Israeli m8
>>29400342
>Isn't it the same?
I thought it was american, thanks for correcting me.
>>29400269
A friend which was trying to sleep.
>>29398146
Its australian. And this is an australian that used the f88 for a decade talking.
We like to aifuck things. Take some that works perfectly well and mldify it and build it on australia.
The f90 has the same messed up trigger mech that the f88 had and that was the part we Ausfucked the most.
>>29398316
Yeah how about no.
I can cite my experiences to the contrary but i'd like to here your reasoning.
>>29400411
A lot of fun after shooting for multiples days.
>>29400435
Wait, France was trying the fucky AU version and not the Steyr original? Why the hell would they do that? Especially considering that both rifles have had enough time as a platform to see what works (AUG) and what doesn't (F88).
>>29400491
Thats my understanding. Its all owned by Thales though. Which is french. Because australai is a bitch country that sold oir major defence contractor to the french.
http://www.lithgowarms.com/portfolio-item/f90/
>>29400491
Because the AU version would have do some job in France, since it belong to a French company
>>29398544
I live in Oregon and they're everywhere. Though desu I prefer alt and vinegar almonds (seriously try them)
Will there be Milsurp famas now?
>>29401965
>Milsurp famas
Meh, I don't think so, The famas will still be use by French army, we'll use them till they die...
>>29399982
>without having to carry an AT-4.
The idea of not carrying any sort of launcher is a frankly terrifying one. Need to engage over 320m with something explosive? Quite fucked. There's a reason that everyone else has moved on from an outdated weapon.
>French infantry doctrine revolves around the use of grenades a lot, so the FAMAS is designed with that in mind.
The Famas was designed long before UGLs were such a common thing, so that definitely isn't in its "design". And if it focuses on grenades so much, then why doesn't it want the one that puts out more grenades per minute for the team, with faster reaction, at longer ranges, more accurately and with greater munitions to do it more often on a patrol.
The ONLY reason is budget, because the Armee de Terre has been getting buttfucked to fund the Navy every year for the past decade.
>>29402196
>then why doesn't it want the one that puts out more grenades per minute for the team, with faster reaction, at longer ranges, more accurately and with greater munitions to do it more often on a patrol.
Wellp, I see multiples reasons:
1) You don't need to use grenades in every fight, and it help to control the stock of ammunition.
You're not supposed to shot an apav 40 on your initiative, when shoot goes around, guys tend to shoot a lot, with everything they have and may not think more than that at what they are doing.
With a 40mm grenade, you just need to put the trigger, and put in a new grenades, for a rifle grenade, it need more time, which can help you to correct ( with a kick ) the shitty idea a solider may do.
2) More explosives and Fragmentation, an APAV have 2.5 more explosives than a 40mm grenades ( 80g for the APAV against 32.5g for the 40mm )
So yeah, you can shoot more 40mm grenades, but an APAV got a lot more punch and fragmentation than them.
>>29401965
No.
Because the french army is terrible at preserving history or making good deals. Recent example :
>We got a huge pile of pristine M1 bayonets and other ww2 stuff and collectors are salivating at the thought of putting their hands on one of those... Hey, let's put them to the torch.
And that's for a cat.D weapon. I let you imagine what they do with acually restricted items.
They're stupid enough to restrict uniform sales to soldiers, even if you pay. What's the fucking point.
>>29398137
Unlike the SCAR, the F90 has never been the overwhelming favourite.
>>29403423
>>They're stupid enough to restrict uniform sales to soldiers, even if you pay. What's the fucking point.
Uuuh... Preserve the money of the defense minister? I don't really see the point to buy your uniform...
Each time I goes in OPEX, I have 2 complete uniform, shoes, and everything...
I don't even know what to do with the points they give every year, since they already throw stuff at our head.
>>29398338
>Pain Harris et Pringles
T'aimes plus les RCIR?
>>29402196
What about that 2km laser-guided, rocket-boosted 40mm round under development?
>>29403758
Après ne manger que ça plus d'une semaine, je crois que plus personne ne les aiment plus lol
>>29403802
Les menus sont assez variés pour que ce soit tolérable. Et les pates de fruits sont bonnes.
>>29398137
Where did you hear that? F90 is not even in the tender afaik.
List includes the ARX-160, SCAR, HK416, SIG 556 (yes, really), and the VHS-2 which is the single bullpup design of the tender since i'm quite certain the MSBS Radon is not considered.
Bonsoir les baguettes, je songe à m'engager, quelques conseils ?
>>29403802
Franchement elles sont en amélioration constante. Le risotto par exemple, c'est un petit bonheur qui compense largement l'existence du boeuf en salade.
>>29403785
Are you talking about the 40mm CTA gun ? It's well on its way, it is to equip the 10RC and Sagaie replacement, the Jaguar. There's a version of the VBCI with it too but afaik it's for show for the moment.
>>29402196
Come on now, we've been getting new toys at a great pace for the past 8 years. Of course, you can always with for more and faster, but we're far from being assblasted, there.
>>29403851
>Les menus sont assez variés pour que ce soit tolérable.
De la variété, il y en a si ton SOA réussit à avoir plusieurs caisses différentes, et même dans ce cas là, ça reste de la conserve, au bout d'un moment, ça saoule, après, c'est sur que c'est mieux que le liophilisé.
Et le reste est identique biscuit de campagnes, Rillettes de thon,sardines, cerf si t'as du bol.
>Et les pates de fruits sont bonnes.
Il y'en a pas dans toutes les rations ^^'
>>29403880
Dis-nous en plus, ton parcours, tes motivations, ce qui te botte, ton niveau scolaire etc.
>>29403880
Ca dépend, tu veux aller dans quoi? Tu sais comment ça se passe les tests au CSO?
>>29403887
He speaks about the Pike 40mm laser guided rocket I think, meant to be launched from any long enough 40mm grenade launcher. I hope there is a Milkor MGL-140 variant somewhere with a chamber long enough to accomodate six of them. Fuck the weigh, i want my laser-guided-multiple-mini-rocket-launcher. Because reasons.
>>29399545
It's the accuracy that's the big thing. If you could make accurate rifle grenades they'd be a lot more popular.
>>29403936
You don't even need to have a long barrel.
>>29399545
Just... Look at his smile, isn't enough to love grenade rifle?
>>29403936
Oh all right, thank you, didn't know about that one.
Maybe it is more easier to drop when you surrender
>>29403914
>>29403917
Je ne sais pas trop ce qui me botte en particulier, disons qu'a peu près tout m'intéresse.
J'ai une License en sciences sociales mais je ne cherche plus à poursuivre plus loin. Je chercher à me rendre plus utile et l'armée est quelque chose qui m'attire depuis un long moment.
Aucune idée de comment ça se passe.
>>29404134
Déjà, j'ai envie de dire, vu ton niveau, tente officier.
grosso modo, quand tu veux rentrer à l'armée, tu passes par un Centre de Selection et d'Orientation ( CSO ).
De là, ils évaluent:
* ta forme physique:
- un test appelé Luc Léger ( 12 palier de 1 minutes, la vitesse augmentant à chaque palier, normalement, tout le monde le fait au collège il me semble ).
- un mini parcours tout simple ( sauter 2 mètres, passer par dessus un obstacle, faire 30 abdos, passer une poutre, sauter sur des cerceaux, jeter 3 balles à 10 mètres sur une cible de 1 mètres )
- Test traction, en faire le maximum
* les tests psychotechniques => Math, Anglais, Français, test spatial ( cubes qui se retournent, ce genre de trucs ).
* Test de personnalité.
De là, ils te donnent tes résultats, et selon ce que tu as obtenu, te disent ce que tu peux faire ou pas.
Du reste, ben... C'est à toi de voir ce que tu veux faire, check le site de recrutement de l'armée, il y a beaucoup, BEAUCOUP, de métier différents, et intéressants.
Et ce, dans les trois armées.
>>29404321
Ah, j'oubliais, tu passes aussi par une visite médicale qui dure long putain de temps, et là, il y en a déjà pas mal qui ne sont pas gardés.
>>29404134
>did you try the customs and gendarmerie entrance exams
>LICENCE: OFFICIER SOUS CONTRAT
Do it!
>>29404337
>>29404321
Je vois je vais tej un oeil alors, merci pour les explications !
Y'en a tant que ça qui se font rejeter après la visite médicale ?
>>29404597
>Y'en a tant que ça qui se font rejeter après la visite médicale ?
Ben, ca va vite, des dents pourris, une scoliose dont les gens ne soupçonnaient même pas l'existence, un souffle cardiaque a examiner...
Beaucoup de trucs temporaires en fait, le temps qu'ils vérifient, pareil, ne parle même pas d'allergie ou quoi ou qu'est-ce, ils vont te faire patienter 2 mois pour aller dans un hopital faire des tests...
>>29404637
>des dents pourries
Heureusement qu'ils te font obtenir un certif chez un dentiste d'abord.
>>29404665
Ce qui n'empêche pas les soucis, lors de la visite médicale de ma section d'intégration au régiment sur 43, nous n'étions que 5 à n'avoir aucun soucis, et pourtant, tout ce beau monde avais eut son papier.
>the baguetting
Let's post French shit instead.
>>29398149
Yeah, I've been in front of the military police in Paris with them back in early 2015. They're pretty intimidating.
>>29399248
You're lying or those guns weren't taken care of. Both 556/223 and 762/308 lines were made with input from SOF, so they're already better then mil counterparts but they don't have a giggle switch.
Stop posting.
>>29404637
D'après ce que j'ai vu, la cause principale de rejet à la visite médicale c'est une mauvaise vue. Tu passe devant l'ophtalmo, tu te chopes un Y4 et le gars regarde ton dossier et dit "ah désolé, mais Mohammed a un Y1 alors il fera mieux l'affaire". Le même Momo qui a donné comme motivation à l'entretien "je cherche la sécurité de l'emploi".
Le progrès et la tolérance, les valeurs de la gauche, mais pas pour tout le monde.
>>29404847
You mean the Gendarmerie?
>>29398254
>delayed blowback
I will never understand why anyone makes rifle-caliber weapons without a locking action.
InB4 some moron confuses the G3 action with the MG42/3 action.
>>29404911
>Le progrès et la tolérance, les valeurs de la gauche, mais pas pour tout le monde.
Ouais... Ben t'as mal vu alors... Faut pas tomber dans les excès non plus, des gens à la vue pourrie, il y en a partout, Y4, tu peux faire tous les taff, sauf ce qui implique des optiques.
Dans ma section, on en a 3/4, ça les empêche pas de faire sauter des pains d'explosifs.
>>29404922
Maybe, but they sure as hell weren't wearing that.
Their "camo" was ugly forest colors, pic related.
>>29405060
Then it was Vigipirate, which is basically a bunch of guys walking around in every single French city with a Famas, a few mags and a lot of time to kill.
>>29405113
It's the Armée de Terre doing the job of the Police, they could just send a few cops patrolling with MP5s and it would be the same.
>>29405113
Thanks for teaching me about the Europoor Counterterrorism senpai.
>>29405149
Oh and it seems that the G36 is going to be the one replacing or helping to fill the lack of SBRs in the police/gendarmerie. The MP5s and M12s would still be used but some lucky guys would have brand new G36 with an 8inch barrel for their patrols and crises.
>>29405139
It wouldn't, as last november proved.
Who first applied tourniquets or makeshift tourniquets in the bars ? Who kept their cool where completely overwhelmed police officers asked them to shoot anyone on sight trying to pass checkpoints ? I could go on. I'm not laying the blame on the cops : they just aren't prepared for crisis such as this.
Vigipirate and Sentinelle are dull, tedious missions that any security guard could pull off, but for that one time when shit hits the fan, your run of the mill local cop will not cut it.
>>29405060
Those are belgian soldier, not french.
>>29405511
Calm your 2d anime tiddies I'm just giving an image showing something similar to what I saw.
>>29405388
We have 3 infantrymen in front of the local synagogue, every single day of the week. I don't know when they have jewish prayers but it could be soldiers for the days of prayers and just basic cop patrols the rest of the time, haven't seen anyone patrolling around the city centre, commercial areas, trainstation or the fuckhuge museum of modern arts, you know places where you actually have people every day and not just when there is a religious event.
I don't know how they pick the places to keep in check "en province" but it seems like Vigipirate is a joke job the police could do while at least in Paris they have patrols sprinkled everywhere.
>>29405589
>Their "camo" was ugly forest colors, pic related.
Then choose your words wisely, because "Pic related" wellp... mean pic related.
>>29405388
Are you implying that your average soldier is better trained than the average cop? Because it's basically the same shit. A cop shoots 50 rounds a year with his handgun, a soldier shoots 200 rounds a year with his FAMAS. Both are completely unprepared for the war going on.
>>29405784
Since when does the number of bullet you fire imply that you are prepared or not to do a war?
>>29405642
>en province
this is where the terrorist should it, there's litteraly 0 defense here, ZERO
and on top of that there's still that fucking semi auto ban for EU
>>29405784
>ignoring the fact that I saw cops carrying shiny fucking revolvers in Strasbourg a few months back
I don't even want to image how they actually equipped the poor "policiers municipaux" in most of the French cities, I think they have MR73s in Béziers and SP2022 when they are in one of the few cities where they decided to share the arsenals.
>>29399716
>We had Many laugh that day.
hon hon hon, vive la guerre
>>29405869
I live in a small town with only 110k inhabitants but there is around a thousand people around the trainstation, central plaza and cathedral each, during daytime, any attack would be a slaughter without anyone able to retaliate. Fuck it just give us CCWs permit if you don't even care about protecting us.
>>29405879
Many "municipaux" are still equipped with Unique .32 acp pistols. It's basically a French made Ruby pistol from WW1. Most of them don't work, because the magazines are totally worn out, won't feed cartridges anymore and of course they are no new magazines being made since decades. Same for the spare parts they would need, if they can even manage to find .32 acp cartridges...
But the best is when they are not armed at all, in leftist cities where they mayor is like "hurr guns are evil". Gotta love having a blue uniform with "police" written on it, but not being able to defend yourseld.
If the French ever manage to restart their small arms industry some day, the factories should manufacture mass quantities of the MAS 49/56 as well as plenty of ammo for it, so it can be easily distributed for civilians when the great Baguetting comes.
>>29405944
I'm in a leftist city and they have 2022s, they are lucky but they do not seem to carry any spare mag though. I don't get why they don't grab the old MAS49/56s, MAT49s and MAC50s rusting in warehouses and give them to the "municipaux".
>>29405944
Tu blagues? C'est trop honteux...
>>29405944
>>29406174
Plus qu'une question idéologique, je pense que c'est vraiment une histoire de fric
