Best state to move to?
Factors: Gun laws, land, shooting/hunting, cost of living, quality of towns/cities, etc.
Disqualified states: CA, CT, DC, IA, ND, NJ, NY, OR, or WA.
>>29393769
New York obviously
>>29393769
Arkansas
What's wrong with ND?
Not MD.
>>29393769
>Gun laws, land, shooting/hunting, cost of living
Deep south
>quality of towns/cities
Colorado, Texas, Idaho
Kansas is pretty fly. Don't need a permit to cc. Not sure about of.
Texas.
NORTH Texas though, south is all Mexicans, liberals, and cousin-fuckers.
Lots of land, gun laws can't be beat, temperate weather, and really cheap cost of living. Dallas is particularly great.
>all amenities of large city
>still lots of space in surrounding counties
>decent people
>int'l airport
>not a bunch of hillbillies (pic NOT related)
>lots of good (cheap) ranges
>>29393769
Ohio seems to be pretty close. I'm in the north east, and I'm about a 45 minute drive from Cleveland, but far enough out where I can buy 50 acres of land for pretty cheap no problem. The weather here sucks and you can only use shotguns and straight-walled cartridges (45-70, 30-30 ect.) but other than that its bretty good.
>>29393963
>gun laws can't be beat
>what is Arizona
>>29393904
Sauce?
>>29393769
I'm thinking of moving to OR. why not OR?
>>29394001
filename
>>29394102
short shins
ugly hair
small hands
body is shaped too much like an hourglass
2/10 would not fuck
>>29394027
Disqualified for "you don't need that" type legislation typically firearm related. Forgot to include HI in the list as well.
>>29393769
California isn't that bad of a state if you don't revolve your life around making money and owning guns.
>>29393769
>Oregon
>disqualified
nice bait
>>29394155
Except we don't have any shit legislation coming down the pipe anytime soon. Didn't have any this year either.
>>29394149
pls no bully
Md has the stupidest gun laws.
>>29394166
Yeah, who cares about being free or not being poor.
It's also full of Mexicans, and you get to support their spawn with your tax dollars.
>>29394155
Sure, okay. As an Oregonian who can fact-check what you're saying I agree: No one from out of state should move here.
>>29394200
You are not being unique, posting the same blonde chick is not the same as having a trip.
>>29394155
what don't oregonians need? high-cap clipazines?
>>29394200
advertising and avatarfagging is not allowed, redditfaggot.
why dont you just spampost this shit in /s/ instead of the weapons fucking board?
>>29394149
You are the biggest faggot to ever post on these boards. Don't ever post here again or I'll fuck you up
>>29394166
>if you don't revolve your life around making money
If by this you mean "and therefore are willing to go live in Jefferson State or the Sierra foothills rather than on the coast", sure. If you mean that coastal CA is all right if you don't revolve your life around making money...you pretty much have to in order to afford living there.
here you go op
That's right stay out of iowa. We don't want anymore. Hopefully on Monday our governor signs the suppressor bill that's on his desk and theyll be legal.
>>29393963
Roanoke reporting, representing the 817.
>>29393991
A desert filed with spics, snakes and a fucking canyon?
Seriously though. Now that Texas has open carry, conceal carry at universities and a rock solid castle doctrine, it's on par with all but the constitutional carry states. And only just behind those.
Factor in climate, cost of living and employment opportunities and its gotta be top three.
>>29394200
Spelled NJ wrong
>>29394589
>A desert filed with spics, snakes and a fucking canyon?
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>29393769
Idaho just got constitutional carry, bitches. Like just hours ago.
Oregonian here, we just passed this crap:
http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2015/08/oregon_gun_background_checks_w.html
TL;DR version: Legally, you have to do all transfers via a FFL with a background check. I understand if you don't want to call us Oregun anymore.
>>29394827
my state has had that for a while, didn't realize some didn't
TN here
>>29394589
>Roanoke reporting, representing the 817.
Go to babes for me.
>>29393769
Josephine County, Oregon. I know you said they're disqualified, but they have no police funding and voters refuse to allow them to raise taxes. Sheriff's office can only afford to patrol 8 hours a day 5 days a week and only go out on life threatening calls. OSP is the main law enforcement in the area but their presence is very limited as well. It's essentially anarchy as citizens have taken to the streets in armed and unarmed patrols to respond to non-life threatening calls that the JoCo Sheriff's Office won't take. Just don't speed there as they'll pull you over for anything just to get a little bit of traffic ticket money.
>>29394827
>implying any sheriff's office will enforce it anywhere in the state
Just live South of Eugene and you won't have to care about that. State of Jefferson gun laws rule supreme.
>>29394590
ain't that the truth. at least you're not NYC
>>29393934
texas mentioned
>swell with retards and cults
>Ctrl+f "Utah" no results found.
Utah.
>>29394895
FUARK nice.
>>29393769
>ND
Cheer Cheer for Old Notre Dame!
>>29393769
move to Ohio
>ccw
>no round limits except when hunting with shotty
>no waiting period
>constitutional carry is currently in committee
>cost of living ok if you work something other than retail
I might be going to college in NM
It's pretty top-notch there, right?
I'll be coming from MA though, so any improvement will be good
>>29393769
What's wrong with Oregon?
>>29393769
Mine, but I'm not telling you where I live because fuck off, we're full.
Quit being a faggot
Move to Alaska
If someone wants to elaborate go ahead, but I've put in my two cents.
>>29394576
WAbro here, that's a nice feel. Rooting for you.
>>29395126
any of the states not listed in the OP
sup fellow masshole
>>29394102
>Claire Gerhardstein
would gerhard her stein if you know what im sayin
>>29395109
Plus, most sheriff's offices refuse to enforce gun laws such as the new OR BGC law within the state of Jefferson.
WYbro, transplant from the coasts. Couldn't be happier.
>Gun Laws
constitutional carry, no state laws, literally everyone you meet has a gun. literally. as in i have not met a person here that does not own a gun.
>land
How much land do you need? We have lots (pun intended).
>shooting/hunting
BLM rifle range like 10 min from my house
>cost of living
depends. lots of areas have limited housing. much of wy is based on resource extraction. right now, the economy is down. if you time it right you could get a good deal. Food is average, gas is average, lowest electricity rates in the nation. and no COMMUNIST state income tax
>quality of towns/cities
I live in what would be considered a small town anywhere else, but it's in the top 10 in WY, and a county seat. I feel i have everything i need here. A steady job, multiple, grocery stores (the luxury!), a movie theater, a post office, several bars, and a subway. Everything else I can get on Amazon.
>>29395125
yeah but you have to live in ohio
Based AZ.
No permit to carry, no registration, not even a "totally not a database" like PA has, private sales with no ffl.
I'm the poorest of poorfags and even I could afford to buy an acre off route 66, I'll be moving as soon as I save a few $k to build on it. Whats your excuse?
>>29394166
Don't come to San Francisco.
It's a cool but expensive place to visit, eat, drink, wine and dine. Some pretty neat places to visit.
But unless you want to live in the seedy places or share rent with 3 other people, you ain't gonna be affording much here.
The city BRAGS about not issuing ccw, the last few years, there were only 1 permit issued, and that was to a lawyer who was close friends with the then-sheriff. Ed Lee won't do shit unless it profits him. Willie Brown is still a major power player here. And let's not forget Leeland Yee, wait, no, EVERYONE forgot the US Senator who got caught agreeing to gun run for money in an FBI sting. So the politics here is pure fucking toxic.
The local politician was patting themselves on the back for closing the last gun store in the city last year, because it is now "safer", even though no guns bought from said store were ever used in a crime. Nevermind it takes only 20 minutes to drive south to the next available gun store in the county next to ours. Nevermind all the recent high profile shootins in the city are at fault of the police or government themselves.
The homeless problem is horrible. All the self fellating progressives in Liberal Central City can't even solve the rampant homeless crisis here. It's too politically incorrect to be stronghanded and it doesn't fucking help when other cities just bus all their mentally unstable people here. Legitimately homeless folks, people who are seriously just down on their luck or outright fucked in life are not the problem.
It's the mentally unstable and drug addled fucks that are the main problem, and mainly the very aggressive ones here. And the cops don't do shit, at most they'll lock em up for a day or two and then let them back on to the streets.
>>29395558
>I'm the poorest of poorfags and even I could afford to buy an acre off route 66
Interested to hear more about what you're doing with this, largely because I want to do exactly the same thing and will probably be able to afford it in the next few years. You have enough room to shoot on the property? What are the utilities like? (A lot of cheap land in Arizona with no water, even some with an unreasonably deep water table.). Distance from neighbors? You have a job there? Are we talking full Ian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUIPfkxZaO8? Etc.
>mfw there's some guy on Youtube named Ian Mccollum whose channel is all EDM concert videos
>>29393769
>or WA.
pls stay out
>>29393877
I like living there.
I'm fixing to move outta commifornia before 2018 and head off to Florida most likely. Can't stand all the fucking retards in this state.
>>29395741
As much as I'd say coastal CA is pretty shit in terms of people. Doesn't Florida slowly turn people insane?
>>29395177
>Move to Alaska
We're full
>>29395105
this desu. Utah is the perfect blend of everything. some of the best gun laws in the country (not quite AZ or VT, but still). and the best skiing in america. (fuck colorado)
>>29395818
Mormons tho
>>29395861
So unlimited buttfucking of hot slutty religious girls?
>>29395800
Nigga you the biggest state with a population less than texas
>>29395818
Good mountain biking and four wheeling too.
>>29395861
>Mormons tho
Overblown problem
>>29395882
Well maybe this will turn them away.
>>29395695
I stayed in Oakland once. Heard multiple shots fired. Two if which were about a block away from where I was.
>>29395882
Nah saw a neighbor moved in about 100 miles away. It's getting a little crowded
>>29395925
cali fags cant handle snow
>>29394532
Feels bad man. Family has been here generations and I dont wan't to leave. Might have to eventually.
>>29395925
This guy's wrong, Alaska is the place to be. All the people I know here in MT wish they were there, me included. Definitely go to Alaska, Califags
>>29395777
It might but it's fucking better than this shit hole. After Gavin becomes gov in 2018 I want to be out of this place.
>>29395874
Do those kinds of people really think that they're still "virgins" in the eyes of their demigod if they get fucked in the ass?
>>29395984
My snowboard would like a word with you.
>>29396036
I'm planning on visiting at some point.
Georgia. Chattanooga specifically. Look it up, shit, i mean scarlet johansson is moving here because she likes it so much, so I'm sure as shit you will.
>>29396056
califags are the worst. literally ruining other states
>>29396036
>Definitely go to Alaska, Califags
Don't forget to bring your "bear spray"
>>29396098
They ruined their own state and are now fleeing to where their businesses ran off to. Not realizing that's like a crazy ex girlfriend moving to the same city her boyfriend did just to get away from her.
Based Montana, or Northern Florida. I live in the latter. Gunshine state is great. Things are relatively cheap, land isn't too expensive, neither is liquor or food. Ammo is hit or miss, depending on who you buy from, and west end of the state is filled to the brim with gun stores, and Alabama is right there as well. Also, we're trying to get constitutional carry reinstated.
>>29396132
And your "wolf spray"
>>29396074
Chattanooga is in Tennessee bruh. Ringgold doesn't count.
That being said, Tennessee.
>breddy good gun laws (walk-in handgun purchases)
>no income tax
>great hunting
>lots of cheap land
>>29396138
imo you shouldnt be able to vote for 5 years when you move states. fuck california transplants reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee they are ruining my state
>>29396150
>>29396132
Is Alaska actually a good place to go?
What's great about the place?
Aside from not many people being there, so operating can happen without incident.
>>29396138
>>29396098
Wasn't me doing the ruining, I fucking hate most of the people that live in this state.
>>29396171
there is no room for rampant faggotry found in california
>>29394576
That's finally going through? Fuck, I Hope Branstad signs the damn thing.
>>29394589
>A desert filed with spics, snakes and a fucking canyon?
You can shoot the spics and the snakes.
Also, the Grand Canyon is beautiful, fuck you.
>>29396171
>Is Alaska actually a good place to go?
no
>What's great about the place?
McKinley Mac
>Aside from not many people being there, so operating can happen without incident.
huh?
>>29395701
There's plenty of room to shoot, I could set up my own range if I wanted to but that seems unnecessary what with all the dry river beds around.
I'm doing solar power and water tanks. It's the most economical way, the quote for a well was 10k. The only thing that will probably suck is paying out the ass for 3g or satellite internet.
Maine reporting in.
Gas is kind of expensive but it's still around the same as the national average, and we have state income tax but we also just got constitutional carry. Once you get over the fact pur governor is a fucking idiot it's. Ot too bad up here. Head north and it gets desolate real fast.
>>29396242
Our*
>>29396144
Sup North Florida bro.
850 reporting in
>>29394589
Its not all desert either dumbshit.
>>29396255
Wow I fucking butchered the english language in this post, congrats to anyone who gets through it without having a stroke.
>>29395984
>he thinks California doesn't have coast/desert/snow/forest
The state itself is beautiful, most of the people and government, not so much
>>29395558
No ccw permit required either.
ME, NH, and AK are the best states and if you disagree you're not white
>>29396098
maybe your own state shouldn't bend your asses up in the air for the fewer califags coming over? If you think a few transplants from california will off balance your entire state and culture, you got things to work on.
>>29396321
when they all move to the same city that already controls the state it fucks us even more. kys faggot
>>29396314
add WY and N/SD
>>29396333
>when they all move to the same city that already controls the state it fucks us even more. kys faggot
how big is this city of yours?
If it's in the hundreds of thousands, are you implying there has been hundreds of thousands of california transplants that have moved to that city and toppled your stranglehold? Or are you just pulling shit out of your ass and not realize you got native liberal minded population as well?
>>29396357
millions of people have moved outta california in the past 5-10 years. im not denying the liberal population that has always been here but it has increased at very high rates. dumb califag
>>29396242
I always thought our gas was cheaper because of the Portland terminal, but I guess you're right.
http://www.gasbuddy.com/GasPriceMap?z=5&lng=-86.68192003125&lat=39.774576156751166
I'm not overly bothered by LePage; I'm worried about who our next governor will be. Given what he's done to conservatives' image and what Cutler has done to independents' image in our state, it's essentially guaranteed to be some libtard, potentially far worse than Hassan. Our only hope is that there will be another initiative that draws the hicks out of the woodwork (like the bear referendum in 2014) and swings the vote to the right. If the ranked-choice initiative passes, it'll be a different situation altogether, of course.
>>29396314
>and AK
Leave us out of this.
>>29393769
don't fucking come to oregon faggots
http://www.unitedvanlines.com/about-united/news/movers-study-2015
>>29396458
worst of pnw, why would anyone want to? lmao
>>29396333
WY and MT are in. VT is out because of Bernie
Know nothing about the Dakotas and their bitter intradakatan war desu
>>29396429
AK is the best state everyone move there
>>29396414
taxes m8
>>29396529
>taxes m8
And if LePage hadn't acted like such a fucking child, he could have actually taken a successful stab at that.
>>29396499
nice b8
>>29396571
ID>WA>>>OR
>>29396580
Idaho is a shit state nigger
>>29396587
"no" ya hipster trash
>>29396602
washington is ever worse with Hipster trash, ever been to Vancouver or Seattle?
>>29396618
im from wa :^). seattle is a shithole
>>29396628
When I was in Seattle to visit a friend I went to a highschool football game his sister was playing in. I saw a sign that prohibited guns and knives and I started loudly talking about how bullshit gun free zones are. Shortly thereafter I heard someone else in the crowd talking to their buddy about how bullshit gun free zones are.
I hope I started a trend. Hoping it spreads like wildfire.
>>29396673
was it at a school? there will be no gun signs at schools m8. p sure those signs have no legal bearing other than schools/federal buildings
>>29396547
He got us constitutional carry so I give him a pass for life but yeah fucking taxes
>>29393769
WA is the best.
/360/ reporting in.
>>29396725
425 here senpai. next week is supposed to get close to 80*, im hype
>>29396742
We're looking to be in the 60s here, perfect hiking weather. Gonna hit up Storm King on Wednesday and maybe another this week if weather permits.
Love living on the edge of the ONP.
>>29396208
Hes actually come out saying he's looking forward to signing it because it'll increase jobs here.
>>29396760
nice im gonna do some shooting and hopefully get a hike in
>>29396725
206
>>29396809
Port Angeles, I know 360 is like half the state
https://youtu.be/_kH_EZF0XqM
Definitely GA, open carry/concealed carry including anyweapon like ballistic knives, awesome place for pewpewlife
>>29396785
I'm going to try to get some shooting in for sure. Wife just got her gun so we need to break it in,
>>29396816
This nigger shops at swain's....guaranteed
have regular /k meets and even the cops like CCW
>>29396846
Swains is expensive mang, their ammo is spendy. Good selection of /out/ gear though.
But they have everything, amirite?
>>29396396
you're saying all those millions of people came to your state in particular?
All the people whining about califag migration need to understand that if all it takes is a fraction of your state's population to eternally cuck the rest of you, you got problems bigger than just transplants coming in.
You got your own shifting values and culture to worry about. If all it took for some outsiders to come in and begin assfucking your entire fucking state.
And what are you going to do about it? Whine some more? That won't stop all the califags from swarming into your buttholes.
>>29396881
They do have a wide selection. I really like lake crescent
>>29396688
I don't even know. It was some field like a block from the Space Needle. Just looked it up. It was Memorial Stadium.
>>29393865
We do have it bretty gud here
Kansas or Missouri.
KC side not STL or Wichita
>>29396843
nice sounds fun
>>29393769
Arizona!!!!
>>29395861
So? They're by default overly friendly and outdoorsy types that'll gladly leave you alone if you simply ask.
>>29395126
where in nm, las cruces here
>>29396769
That's fantastic. I hope we can own SBR in the near future too.
>>29397127
Yo! I live in El Paso and have insane NM envy
>>29394176
Maybe he just hates the pacific NW, I know I do.
>>29397230
why
>>29397225
LC is ok, a few good gun stores. I've been meaning to go into EP for awhile, moved to LC last October, any good gun stores in EP?
>>29397262
Not really. I was pretty disappointed as far as /k/ shit goes. There's a rod and gun club by my apartment that's pretty decent but, for whatever reason, the FFLs around here hate transfers and there's only, like, 2 that even offer their service.
I tried to go to Sparks Firearms in LC today but they were closed. So. Pretty disappointing. Any place you'd recommend by you?
>>29397252
My main problem was the people (I live in west WA kill me) and the weather just makes me mad.
If it helps I was raised and lived in North TX most of my life.
>>29397300
i live in west wa too. do you live in seattle? outside of king county the people are fine. i live north of seattle but spend most of my time in small towns though so its probably different for me.
i get the weather especially if you grew up somewhere else, i enjoy the rain desu. 30-40* with a slight overcast is goat weather imo
>>29393769
wisconsin. if it is not farm land, it is cheap. only problem is you cant get tazers shipped.
>>29397328
Not Seattle, bit more south.
>>29397338
i try to avoid people for the most part. WA has some great innawoods though, why did ya move from TX?
>>29397287
Miller G&A on Telshor, Stryker's on Valley. I like the guys at Miller more Brian is the best there, Stryker's has better prices on magazines, Joe is the best there (talks pretty fast but knows his stuff).
Recently got my Mark 23 and G19 Semper Fi at Miller, put money down on a G43 today at Stryker's. Also put some TFX sights on the 19 today at Miller. You buy the sights from their store and they'll install them for free
DAM ammo can be a little fudd but they're pretty good folks and who you go to for reloading, they're currently moving their store. Gonna open in beginning of April in a building in front of where the old waterpark (Kahuna's) used to be
>>29397350
Education mostly, I also thought I would like the weather, won't lie though I really like the woods around here.
>>29397371
this week is supposed to be nice weather at least
Australian here.
Is there anywhere that's on the coast and actually nice?
I live next to the beach and I don't think I could do without the ocean. It's just too nice.
Is the bit of Texas that's on the Gulf totally aids? It looks aids. Corpus Christi (sp) and that.
Other states on my shortlist are north Texas, Wyoming, and maybe Nevada.
Thoughts?
I'm a skiier so being close to ski places is nice too. Close is less than 12 hours drive
>>29397457
id look into central fla then. good scuba diving there too
>>29397468
Isn't Florida also aids full of old people? That doesn't sound fun.
Also tornadoes, aren't they a thing too?
>>29397354
You're the man, thanks.
>this entire thread
No mention of glorious /k/entuc/k/y?
>muh bourbon
>muh everybody owns guns
>muh southern hospitality
>muh basketball (fuck this season though jesus christ both our teams lost )
>muh appalatcheeuh
>muh mountain dew in baby bottles
>>29396036
Another Alaskan here, with oil being so cheap the economy might not be to great in the coming years. And it's hard to say if we'll be keeping the PFD since the state is in debt. I really liked getting my free $1.5k each year for just living here.
>>29397492
Check out Austin and the Dallas suburbs. Austin has a huge skiing scene and Dallas has some good places, also the climate is roo friendly. Don't worry, we took care of the emu problem ;).
CALIFORNIANS NEED NOT APPLY
TEXAS IS FULL
Commie here Been looking to fuck off to Arizona for freedom and hopefully to join in on the 2 action challenges that Ian and Karl are running cause they look like tons of fun might try to do what >>29395558 >>29396241 is doing but that's going to be a while in the future
Anywhere but the major population centers of California are nice lot of neo nazis in the mountains strangely (seriously it's like the Fuckin Nuremberg rallies it's wierd) from middle California myself so I was actually suprised how pro gun middle cali folks are but the state like to stick it in our puckering butt holes too much I need to git outta here I hope no one in Arizona will bully me for my NCR flag
>>29397788
I was thinking DFW area. Austin sounds nice, but isn't it a bit liberal?
Climate I don't mind. I love the sun, but winter is an excuse to light a fire and drink whiskey
I live in Indiana which is o.k. for guns but I've pondered someday moving to Nevada, seems too based to not at least check out.
>>29397726
>implying Kentucky is part of the south
Fuck off you Union bastard
>>29398189
Dfw is great because you have varieties. One of my range buddies is from suburban Dallas and he seems to find good ranges for shooting his NFA items, I am a fudd but I love driving to Dallas to shoot giggleswitch and subsonic
.308 with a can. If you're big on skiing and wake boarding Austin is the place to be because Lake Austin literally exists for retards to ski and wakeboard. Once you're towards the lake you have two choices, go north towards the Leander/Cedar Park types or go south then follow onion creek for Lake Travis/onion creek and realize it's a share water space.
>>29398263
Oh no, I meant skiing as in snowsports.
>>29396208
>>29396769
Fellow iowans? From what township do you call home good sirs?
>>29395861
Friendly, prosocial, good-looking, like guns and prepping, scare the liberals out...not seeing the problem here pham
>>29396035
It's tough, no two ways about it. But see what happens when this tech bubble pops.
>>29396241
Tight, thanks.
>>29396707
I'm not from Maine, but he seems pretty based.
>literally homeless and spoke no English as a kid
>work his ass off and get into college
>troll the shit out of liberals
>>29397457
Do you need sunny beaches or are dank temperate rainforest beaches OK?
>>29398077
Yep.
>>29397726
Kentucky poverty is pretty rough. If the Democlaps in DC manage to strangle the coal industry you'll see like 50% unemployment.
>>29395478
fuck off wyoming is full
>>29396242
>mfw in college learning new media/animation
>gonna have to leave my glorious home state to get a job
I don't wanna leave.
>>29399033
>lepage
I got to hear him speak at my uni, he's ok gets a lot of shit for nothing though.
>>29394545
> Pennsylvania
> "okay"
>>29397457
Come to South Carolina cunt.
WI
>>29393963
>Lots of land
You have little to no public land. I'm not even from Arizona, but they kick your ass in terms of being a gun-loving state six ways to Sunday. Hell, a lot of states do.
Texas is only mediocre when it comes to gun laws and culture. Better than some, but far from the best.
>all amenities of large city
You can find that in most places as long as you're willing to live near a population center.
>still lots of space in surrounding counties
Privately owned land that you can't legally shoot on or be on without the owner's permission.
>decent people
Texans are some of the most insufferable people on the planet. If you weren't born there, then you're a yank and not a real Texan so you'll never be able to understand their deep and intricate culture.
>int'l airport
What state doesn't have an International airport?
>not a bunch of hillbillies
You guys have some, but that's far from your biggest problem. Besides, I'd take a hillbilly over a latte-sipping faggot any day of the week.
>lots of good (cheap) ranges
I sure hope so considering you guys don't have any public land to shoot on.
>>29395105
Have fun not being able to buy booze.
>>29401492
>What state doesn't have an International airport?
Delaware
>>29394545
This is the most accurate version of this map that I've ever seen. Only thing I'd change is Utah from Great to Good. You need to have constitutional carry to be considered great, in my opinion.
Good job.
>>29401246
No private sales of handguns. You're a baby step above Washington, and that's only because the private sale of long guns aren't restricted.
>>29397457
Nevada reporting in. Our gun laws are pretty baller and we have loads of ok LGSs and shooting ranges, and literally endless public land to use (just be courteous and haul your shit out). If you want to ski theres basically nowhere you can live in nevada thats 12 hours from good skiing. Vegas has many spots within 6 hours. Reno has closer stuff because of its location.
Id recomend vegas but im partial to the 24 hr lifestyle. I like being able to go out to the desert to shoot and camp then get back at 10pm and still have options to eat out.
Also, we are a very low tax state, and low cost of living despite higher than normal fuel prices.
Also feel free to ask any questions about this GOAT state. Can always use more Aussies than want to escape.
>>29397300
>lived in North TX
There's your problem. North TX is straight shit. You're just overwhelmed by awesomeness when you left. Y'know, actually having woods, mountains, water an' stuff. Not just long, flat, dirt. Wew lad tons o fun to be had in North fucking Texas! Fucking kill me.
>>29394166
If you don't care about making money or having the benefits of such, the side of any highway will make a good home. throw being disarmed to that and we see why you don't live independantly
>>29393769
if you have enough money (like any at all), you can do whatever you want in oklahoma, cops are cheap in the small towns
>>29395478
Where in wyo? Sheridan here
>>29401506
Updated
>>29402718
a state cannot be great if i cant shoot on public land, i also think the ability to shoot on public land+the amount of public land should weigh in the rankings
>>29402747
well you have to tell me which state you're talking about before i can look into changing anything
>>29395478
britfag here, Wyoming is my dream state to move to in life. pls post pics of mountains or firearms so I can add it to the Wyoming folder.
>>29402718
> Kentucky
> not blue
Yeah, naw, fuck that chart
>>29402846
>no constitutional carry
and that's why it's not blue
>>29402718
Let me guess. You added your stitty state. Nothing is funnier when someone claims their state has the great gun laws except "we only have to wait 5 years for a CC permit?
>>29402747
then Nevada is one if the greatest states
updated
>>29402888
> It is the policy of the Bureau of Land Management to allow the safe use of firearms on public lands as long as such activity is permitted by federal, state, and local laws. On public lands in Arizona there are no designated target shooting sites managed by the BLM. Shooting is strictly prohibited in some areas due to high public use and resource concerns. Prohibited areas include all developed recreation sites and other areas where posted. Specific areas are listed below. You are generally allowed to target shoot on all other BLM managed public lands, as long as you clean up your targets, shell casings, and trash.
> http://www.blm.gov/az/st/en/prog/recreation/shoot.html
>>29402891
I'm from Maine, motherfucker
>>29402942
what >>29402891 said
>>29402933
i agree.
>>29402870
It's already passed the state Senate, it's coming soon
>>29402955
what you dont account for is the areas they can shoot are incredibly small
>>29402955
i dont think we have great gun laws but we do have goat innawoods and public land
>>29402955
>I'm from Maine, motherfucker
And Maine came in fucking 29th in the guns and ammo article. Fucking 29th!! Your state is "okay" tier and I'm being nice.
http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/culture-politics-network/best-states-for-gun-owners-2015/
>>29402970
Well then i'll update it "soon"
>>29403007
There's literally nothing wrong with Maine. Name one legitimate complaint against it.
>>29394166
Don't event go to Cali if you like guns and want to CC. Some weak wrist faggot will call the cops on you for being intimidating and result in your death because the cops over there are corrupt fuck faces that kill without need.
>>29403007
>WA-40
>OR-28
no
>>29403046
>Name one legitimate complaint against it.
I've got three:
1. You have to drive down to NH to buy fireworks.
2. The Internet barely exists more than ten miles inland.
3. Biting bugs in the summers.
>>29403046
>There's literally nothing wrong with Maine. Name one legitimate complaint against it.
Except it came in 29th
>>29403046
>hunting mag limits
>>29403089
> someone assigned an arbitrary number and all i can do it parrot it
>>29403097
when will that ever be an actual problem?
>>29403046
>Name one legitimate complaint against it.
"Maine has a “shall issue” CCW permit system"
Unless you have Constitutional Carry GTFO
>>29403135
>when will that ever be an actual problem?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! This is what we mean by you idiots thinking your states are "great" tier.
>>29403135
>when will that ever be an actual problem?
This reminds me of Arizona and they can't bring guns onto indian land "well we just don't go there"
>>29403081
>1. You have to drive down to NH to buy fireworks.
wrong
>2. The Internet barely exists more than ten miles inland.
also wrong, the township i live in doesn't even have a name and my internet is fine
>3. Biting bugs in the summers.
man up, that's pretty much any rural area in the summer
>>29403089
proves nothing
>>29403097
yes this is a gay law, you're the only anon to find an actual flaw in our state's gun laws, but still we got
>constitutional carry
>shall-issue permit
>nfa friendly
>hunting w/ suppressors
>no waiting period for purchase
>no registry
>private sale allowed
i think we are doing better than most
>>29403182
this is why az cannot be great. AK is goat btw
>>29403143
we do have constitutional carry tho
>>29403184
forgot to mention
>castle doctrine
>>29403143
Hugh wot-meight
http://freebeacon.com/issues/maine-becomes-sixth-constitutional-carry-state/
>>29394220
WAfag here take us off the list too, no one should move here ever.
>>29403201
Do you have a law stating that if the Feds try to enact laws removing your rights they will be ignored and if they try to enforce them they will be arrested? Do you have a law stating that if it's made in your state and stays there they feds can go fuck themselves example: full auto guns? Are you allowed to have auto knives and OTF's?
>>29403268
ayyy 425 here
>>29403275
>Do you have a law stating that if the Feds try to enact laws removing your rights they will be ignored and if they try to enforce them they will be arrested? Do you have a law stating that if it's made in your state and stays there they feds can go fuck themselves example: full auto guns?
Has anyone actually tested this? Until such time, I cant' really take it very seriously.
>>29403305
>I cant'
Nobody cares what you think. It's the law in some places.
>>29403326
Symbolic. It symbolizes good things, but it's still purely symbolic and cannot be relied upon to keep you out of Federal Pound Me In The Ass Prison if you build a machine gun in Montana without the ATF's approval.
>>29397457
Ohio
>>29403353
Who's gonna arrest them? The local government is forbidden from helping them by law and THEY will get arrested if they try to arrest us. They will sit in our jails.
>>29403459
That sounds like something that will happen exactly once before becoming a major precedent setting SCOTUS case.
>>29397457
The Carolinas, Florida, or California.
Obviously CA has shitty gun laws--then again, compared to Australia it's still paradise--but you have the Pacific Ocean on one side and the Sierra Nevada on the other, so there's your beaches and skiing.
>>29395882
actually, ther population is smaller than Rhode Island. Hell, more people squeeze into the Indy 500 than live in all of Alaska.
>>29403459
Let me know when state police arrest federal agents anywhere in the United States, for any reason.
>>29395517
What's wrong with Ohio? It's a nice quiet state. Just avoid the nigger infested cities like Akron and Cleveland and you'll be fine.
>t. An Ohiofag who goes all over Ohio
>>29403590
Several states already have laws on the book or legislation. One state, can't remember which but some anon showed it, said that if the Feds try and arrest someone without first contacting the local sherif they (the Feds) would be arrested and charged with kidnapping.
>>29403606
Not that anon, but Ohio is universally acknowledged as being a shitty place to live, even though there's nothing wrong with it. It's a joke of sorts.
>>29403661
I realize there are such laws on the books, but I'm saying that I don't believe they're enforceable.
>>29403689
But they are there and nobody's done anything. Part of the guns and ammo article is "gun culture". What bigger fuck you to the Feds is there than making a law stating they will be arrested?
>>29403606
Illinoisfag here. I got an up close and personal tour of your state by taking US-30 and US-36 to Columbus last month.
It was fucking awful.
Sure I bet it's great if you're an industrial scale farmer, but if you're not, Ohio is basically purgatory. So are Iowa, Indiana, and Illinois (except for Chicago), for much the same reasons.
>>29396866
>finger in the trigger guard
>not pointed downrange
>>29403718
It's a lot of comfy, I'll give you that.
>>29403737
The only part of Indiana I've seen is Gary.
>>29403769
Gary is the worst part of Indiana. Most of the rest of the state is an extension of the boring parts of western Ohio with fewer Kasich voters.
The funniest thing about Indiana is that the wind blows away at least 80% of all snow accumulations, so despite bordering Lake Michigan the locals are completely incompetent at snow driving when it does accumulate. I saw a dozen spinouts in the ditches on one night on one highway with less than an inch on the ground.
>>29403737
> except for Chicago
Kill yourself.
>>29403816
kek, well that's good information to have. I suspected I wasn't missing much.
I was only even in Gary because my aunt and uncle have a summer house near the dunes.
>>29393769
Definitely not MN
>>29403816
I moved to Indiana from North Dakota.
Can confirm most people here don't know how to deal with cold/snow/wind.
Also everyone outside of Gary talks about the place like it's fucking Mordor.
>>29403737
>Illinois (except for Chicago)
Chicago a shit, except maybe for food.
>tfw i live here
>>29403911
Gary is Flint/Detroit tier
>>29403869
Chicago is an amazing city as a tourist, or if you're a rich fuck that lives in a high rise. It's pretty much crap for people who have to live and work in the neighborhoods, which is why the middle class has been bleeding out to the suburbs since the 60s. The one thing it's NOT is boring Midwestern purgatory like the rest of Illinois.
>>29396673
I saw a chick open carrying a deagle in pikes place market once
>>29403951
>Chicago a shit, except maybe for food.
>mfw I want to go back to The Fish Keg near Rogers Park
>>29393963
>Dallas is particularly great
Eh, it's fairly liberal but not gun grabbing so far
>>29404053
Sounds qt.
Honestly I like to see grills specifically OCing.
New Hampshire
>One of the whitest states, 95% white, few blacks, not a mexican to be seen.
>Open carry, full auto, suppressors.
>Mostly private land, so no BLM to deal with, plenty of well water just a few feet under the surface.
>State is 85% forest, the rest is water.
>Right to Revolution is in the State Constitution.
>No income or sales taxes.
>>29399033
Sunny with nice water. I need to be able to swim in comfort
>>29401529
12 hour drives don't bother me, remember that for me it's 12 hours to get out of state
>>29403560
What are the Carolinas like in terms of laws? Relaxed?
Unfortunately Cali is actually the best match for me. They're no ARs and no CCW, right? Or some shit like that?
>>29405094
>>One of the whitest states, 95% white, few blacks, not a mexican to be seen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire#Race_and_ancestry
There are almost twice as many hispanics than there are blacks in NH...
>>29405898
Nevada bro here. Mission beach, San Diego is only about 5 hours from Vegas. Plus we have Lake mead. Reno has Lake Tahoe and is also 4-5 hours from san fransisco. Its not ideal but there's also a lot of other outdoors stuff around vegas in addition to shooting. A lot of good hiking and some of the best national parks (zion, death valley, Grand Canyon, redrock).
>>29396275
This too.
>>29405898
CC is basically impossible in most of California's metro areas, correct. See >>29401633. And there's basically a statewide AWB, correct.
NC and SC are both good, but I'm not sure on details. No permit system in either, I think, and no AWB. Skiing in the Appalachians. Also, much cheaper to live in than CA.
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>>29406941
However CA has many jobs, which does appeal to me.
Fucks sake why is it so hard.
>Australia is perfect aside from leftists and no gunz
>CA is Australia v2 with more leftists and slight more guns
>Texas is good except for no beaches
>same with Nevada, Arizona
>Wyoming is mint except for jobs
>nowhere else in the world is acceptable
End my suffering
>>29407495
I don't see how you could ever consider WY, NV, or AZ. I assume you want to be near beaches because you love to surf, which would be impossible in any of those. And I don't think the Gulf Coast gets good waves either.
But if you're in tech, Charlotte, NC is a growth city for that industry these days. And over there you get the Atlantic and Appalachian skiing, albeit neither is as good as their western counterparts.
Anyway, I understand your Californian feel. Except that I was born and raised on Nogunz Island, and spent years in Melbourne besides, so I can be happy in CA.
With all that said, if aren't concerned with surfing, why wouldn't you just try Washington? That fulfills all your other criteria.
>>29408122
WY appeals because I like snow. I'm sort of thinking that nothing will directly compare to where I am now (Sydney) so if I go something totally different it might be alright.
NV and AZ appeal because there's so much freedom. I'm also big into cars and they've got cheers laws for that too
They also just appeal to me more. Can't describe why.
>>29408891
Ah, fair enough in that case.
>>29395695
San Francisco has a serious problem with old people. I was visiting this weekend and everywhere except around golden gate park had copious amounts of geezers walking around. Give it 20 years and you will all be living in race war now
