I've been considering buying an AK for a while, and I don't really know where to start.
>>29369040
What's your budget?
>>29369040
You choose the caliber (7.62, 5.45, 5.56).
Then you state your budget.
Then you purchase the best available AK that fits your earlier choices.
>>29369040
Get a AMD 63 if your budget is super low.
They are $500 at classic
>>29369090
$600 - 675
and pretty much any caliber besides 5.56
>>29369205
Not OP but I just bought one today
>>29369207
DDI will probably be your best bet for the money.
>>29369040
>and I don't really know where to start.
As with all gun purchases, buy once cry once is the best way to go.
If you desire the nice ak-74 features and folder stocks, just save up till you can afford an arsenal. If that's not a big deal, than you can be far less picky and stay within the budget you stated with ease.
>>29369210
How is it?
choose the caliber first.
>no 5.56
which leaves 5.45 and x39 (im excluding 308 and other calibers for the sake of clarity).
they both ahve their pros and cons, look up prices and reviews and see which one you want to shoot. this will narrow your search
>>29369267
I bought it online and it's still shipping. I'll post about it in /akg/. If you're interested just lurk those threads
OP here, I was leaning toward a WASR-10, but I'm open to any other recommendations at this time.
>>29369040
I will say Wasr 10. I have a Wasr gp10 and she hasn't failed me. Though I did pour a lot of work because the guy I got it from it looked like a abortion with tapco and shit.
Will say best way to decide is to have your hands on it and if they let you break it down. Make sure the front isn't canted to much. Bore is nice and not shot , bolt is fine and not to bruised and if you really can put a mag in and look for mag wobble. Other than that it's just caliber , 7.62x39 or 5.45.
>>29369205
How are these? I wish the furniture was a bit easier to swap
>>29370893
Not him, but I once held one at a shop and was surprised to discover that it is the lightest AK I've ever held. Kind of blew my mind, because looking at them, they always looked heavy to me.
>>29369479
Good choice. If you have a few hundred more, I highly recommend Atlantic's kit rifles. Possibly some of the nicest finish I've ever seen on an AK.
>>29369040
WASR
M92PV
M85NP
Draco, not mini or micro
AMD-63
NPAP
NPAP-DF
OPAP
M90NP
Picking up my Arsenal Sam7r tomorrow.
Did I do good? First AK and I heard good things about Arsenal
>>29369207
>>29369040
WASR 10 for a beater rifle. DDI for quality.
>>29369152
Fucking hnnnggghhh
Can someone please post some pics of ak74m's
Get a Arsenal if you got 1k to spend good guns OP
>>29374219
This.
Buy an Arsenal and don't look back.
Personally I have a SLR107
>>29373666
Good choice, I own many aks, yet my sam7's are my favorite. Only issue is the tang screws irritate my hands, but a bit of kydex fixes that
>>29374376
awesome, I'm really excited
Only shitty thing is I live in commiefornia so it has the neutered mag release and I'm stuck with 10 rounders.
Once I make my great escape to Nevada or Arizona I'll have it returned to it's full potential
Could someone point me to a side optic mount, or even a side-mount optic, that is in-line with the receiver? It might seem nitpicky but I honestly don't know how to zero an offset optic.
>>29369205
i got one of those 2 or 3 months ago, still havent shot it yet. fuck i think ive got seven guns now that ive never shot.
>>29374523
It's because you still need to buy a uniform like pic
>>29374482
Rs ak-300 mounts, they center horizontally. Though an offset really isn't a big deal.
Has a lower 1/3 cowitness with an aimpoint t2 on my Sam7
>>29374575
hmm maybe, i have been on a milsurp kick lately
>>29369547
I like that wood. Did you stain it yourself or buy different ones?
>>29374638
Looks like Amber shellac
>>29369040
Not OP here, but I'm seeing 5.56 mentioned a lot. Are there still decent 5.56 AKs being manufactured? I know Arsenal doesn't sell them anymore, and I couldn't turn up anything esle besides a shitty Zastava.
I also have a question:
In my country I can get an Izmash 556 for 700€ and an Arsenal M1 for 900€.
Is Arsenal of higher quality and, if so, worth the additional 200€?
>>29374684
Arsenal is Slightly better, but from a functional standpoint there's no difference
Where are you in the eu where you can buy aks?
>>29374684
Izmash and Arsenal are pretty much equal in terms of quality. Because Arsenal has a bunch of tooling for milled recievers, they tend to make a bunch of milled guns over stamped. The Arsenal M1 being one of them.
You really can't go wrong with any of them.
>>29374722
Germany. I mean semi auto AKs are just normal semi autos. You can buy them in all countries except for a few like Britain.
http://www.waffenschumacher.com/
https://www.arms24.com/Waffen/Buechsen
Just as a few online examples. They usually also export to other EU countries if that was the reason you wanted to know.
>>29374758
I think I will go with the Izhmash then.
Thanks to both of you.
>>29374676
>Are there still decent 5.56 AKs being manufactured?
Apparently definitive arms makes pretty good shit, I don't know if they still make them or not. There's some other smaller +$1,000 ak companies I forgot the names of that may have what you're looking for.
If anything, just try to find an slr106 off the EE on arfcom if you really want a 5.56 ak.
>>29374871
I was thinking of buying an SLR106-62 off of K-var since apparently they have it in stock. Was hoping cheaper, non shit options existed. Oh well, such is the way of the special snowflake.
>>29374919
>SLR106-62
Not that well versed in 5.56x45 ak's but I'm pretty sure this the CR. To my knowledge, the 106CR's specifically have reliability issues and other issues with them. Anectdotal evidence but Chimps our resident autist here said his 106CR was his most hated ak and was glad when he finally got rid of it.
Don't take my word for it and do some research on your part. If you want, there's a bunch of norinco 84s's floating around gunbroker but they're pretty spendy.
>>29369040
get SKS for the aesthetic
>>29374948
It's a CR with a version of the regular carbine AK muzzle break that's about 4 inches long.
>>29374638
Did it myself , type G stock from apex with hand guard and I soaked it in acetone , sand , bleach , then stain with minwax cherry stain that was mixed with red ritdye and half a small bottle of iodine. Finished with tung oil which took a week to cure.
Pain in the ass but I love it and it held up to hot summers and snowy winters.older pic.
>>29369040
Thoughts on 5.56 AKs?
>>29374523
Are you me?
>>29373666
I just sold my SAM7..
>>29375445
Outa curiosity, why? They're one of the finest ak variants. Only real criticism is they're a tad heavy, and expensive.
>>29374403
Buy a Saiga if you can find one. Best quality, made by Izhmash and doesn't require a bullet button (for now). And when you move buy a $130 conversion kit and you have a non neutered Russian AK of the highest quality you will find. Not to mention they are banned from importation now so it will only raise in value. Make Mikhail proud /k/omrade.
Avoid the RAS 47,
It's clean, it's tight, and it's accurate, and it's super affordable.
Unfortunately it doesn't seem very uncommon for the internals to have basically no quality control with the heat treating, and will basically fall apart after a few thousand rounds.
I am fortunate in that I own one that doesn't seem to have any of these problems (1600 or so rounds, minimal wear) but I see enough people with problems that I suggest avoiding it.
I'd buy another one probably because of how accurate and nice mine has been, but hey, do as I say, not as I do.
>>29376227
"It's clean, it's tight, and it's accurate, and it's super affordable."
I should have put in to context that I describe it like this to explain why it would seem so appealing in a shop, cosmetically, and even functionally (for a while) it'll be brilliant.
Then it turns in to a box of chalk run over but a tank roughly
>>29375401
If your someone who has no range buddys and doesnt want to go to the range alone then yes i could be you.
>>29375151
Thanks. My only problem with the wasr is the pale fucking wood.
Bloody communists.
Save the extra and get an Arsenal
>>29369040
if you can find one, get an M70 0-pap
much better build over the wasr i think. But O paps are getting hard to find.
>>29377109
Shit.
Worth buying a barreled receiver and building off a parts kit from there?
>>29369040
Chrome lined?
How important is it?
>>29381634
>usp compact
my nigger
>2016
>buying inherently faulty rifles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synlZgnTnXg
>>29374171
>WASR 10 for a beater rifle. DDI for quality.
I'm a WASR owner and I second this. I babied mine too much last year. Want to get it down in the dirt this year.
Bought this bitch to work, not sit around.
>>29383425
AK needs to be chrome lined. An AK without chrome lining is literally trash.
>>29383455
>>29383475
You should dislike the AK, I agree.
>>29383485
>You should dislike the AK
I don't even actually dislike AR's. I just find AR's to be BORING AS FUCK.
>>29383519
But I don't like AR's either. I just want the AK reliability meme to die.
>>29383528
>I just want the AK reliability meme to die.
It won't. There are shitbags in the middle east with rifles that attest to that and we know it. Old as fuck, used and abused, and still going.
>>29369040
>buying trash
why?
>>29383519
ARs are better
>>29383602
>ARs are better
>>29383519
>BORING AS FUCK.
If it's not a larger caliber, I don't give a fuck. 5.56 is snore-worthy.
>>29383569
>>29383569
We don't know whether those AKs were used in 100 battles or simply tucked away in a cache for 30 years or not.
>>29383677
Wear marks bro
>>29383677
>The finish is worn off
>THEY COULD JUST HAVE BEEN STASHED SOMEWHERE BRAW
>>29383660
>Trying to blame rifle for obvious ammunition failure
Do you blame McD's for making you fat?
>>29383677
>>29383700
Never knew they stored AKs in a fucking washing machine if your mentality serves right.
Anyone have any experience with th c39?
>>29383716
>Do you blame McD's for making you fat?
Yes, and I should be able to sue gun and ammunition companies for Sandy Hook.
>>29383569
Those aren't the AKs you would want to use. Contractors in the mid-east prefer to be issued AR-15s because not every AK sold is in proper working condition.
>>29384414
>Contractors in the mid-east prefer to be issued AR-15s
Because 5.56 and STANAGs are found errywhere, I'm sure.
>>29369040
I'm in a market for a 74.
I'm assuming I should avoid CAI? I've seen videos of them exploding and LOTS of complains of keyholing.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/ak74-rifle-bulgarian-by-cai-ri2148x
Was thinking about getting a DDI, but I'm a college poorfag and it's really stretching my budget.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/ddi-ak-74-stamped-fixed-stock-premium-grade-phoenix-houge
Any other decent and cheap 74 makers?
>>29383700
>>29383716
>>29384128
>wear
>implying sand in the wind didn't wear away that turban-tier finish
>implying it was used in any conflict
>>29371401
except for the furniture. sand that shitty lacquer off and lay down some boiled linseed oil.
>>29383462
oh man.....operator! guys! guys! we have a down and dirty operator here! james yeager, is that you?
>>29385311
Fucking why? It looks fine.
>>29385365
No. I am saying I didn't do as much with it as I wanted to.
>operator!
Of pic related.
>>29374984
I imagine the muzzle break isn't pinned?
>>29369040
a shitty USA ak made
>>29383462
not OP but god I want exactly that rifle
M70 O-Pap, get an N-Pap if you can't find one.
>>29386674
What's the allure of an N-Pap? from what I saw they're harder to find parts for as they aren't the same as traditional AK parts.
>>29385124
The DDI ak74's are the absolute lowest you should go.
Do not settle for budget ak74's. You can't get away with cheaping out as you can with aks chambered in 7.62x39.
>>29389369
>What's the allure of an N-Pap?
>non chrome lined barrel
>gives you cheek slap if you shoulder it wrong
>some of them have poorly heat treated recievers
>speshul snowflake furniture for no benefit
>end up having to get pap friendly furniture and aftermarket like a faggot
I like just about every ak but yugo aks are hot trash.
>muh grenade sights
>muh muh remov keberb xD
>>29376227
Let me back you up, anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oUwE7eL-2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIyZx7oYXRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PpSluO4-A
>>29389483
>not having a varied collection
>>29389994
wow how cheap can you get on a damn ak.
>>29390052
>varied collection
>consists mostly on cheap romies and yugos
>not any chinese aks in sight
>>29369547
>>29383462
This is now a dirty WASR whore thread
>>29383569
>That chest rig with flower
want
This thread still goings strong? Just started calling every store in town; lotta Century Arms AK's for about 640$, a Saiga for 670$ and an Arsenal Arms for 900$.
not sure what to think desu
>>29392036
Oder online
>>29392036
>Arsenal Arms for 900$.
If it's an slr107fr or 104, instacop.
I'm betting it's something unwanted like a 106cr.
Is a WASR-10 + a nice set of wood furniture a good idea or is the quality of an Arsenal really that mindblowingly better? I don't care for polymer that much and I don't need folding stock.
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/ak47-stock-set-classic-russian-red-detail.html?Itemid=0
Furniture I had in mind.
OP here
Very surprised this thread is still going,
>>29392298
Good idea with the furniture, but would it be possible to stain the wood for a different look?
>>29392220
I'm probably going to end up doing that mainly due to the fact that the lgs only stock the RAS-47.
Which leads me to the next question where are some good online stores, or is Atlantic or JGsales the best bet?
>>29392298
>$200 for shit wood furniture with $30 worth of work
>not even russian wood
do it
>>29392509
hook a nigger up with a good set of wood then
Where to buy WASR-10 online?
Can anyone give me information on how to go about purchasing an AK in the wonderful state of Maryland? I've been doing some research and haven't been able to come up with anything concrete. I plan on checking out an MD gun show since the gun stores I've checked out have all said its banned.
>>29369040
I'm considering not going back to college so I can work full time longer and buy a sweet ass AK or AR.
Is this a bad thought to be having?
>>29395094
If you've got good work no. Chances are unless you're pursuing an engineering degree college won't get you a job anyway.
>>29395094
No
>>29395135
I'm going to be a teacher.
And yes, I know that teachers don't make a lot
>>29395094
depends on how much you're paying for college and what field you study
You can make more with a college degree but it's not always worth it.
Also, you can't put a price on being ready for the inevitable breakdown of society as we know it
>>29395256
As in the post above, I'm going for being a teacher.
I have a collection, but it's all WWI/WWII era bolt actions, and I wanna get something totally different and modern.
I'm set on either getting an AK and tricking it out (not mall ninja style), or a basic as fuck A2 style AR.
>>29395256
>>29395402
AKs like this get me rock hard
>inb4 muh fagpul