I'm thinking about getting a 1911 for my first non-22 firearm. Should I go with a .45 or a 9mm?
Any 1911's that are nice? looking for something simple and reliable, that's all, none of the fancy shit.
Pic related.
.45 you dumb nigger. Everything else is cuck tier. Especially muh Connan .357 hurr
>>29352120
springfield arms Mil-spec
>>29352195
>curved mainspring
>>29352120
Honestly? Cheap RIAs.
They're just absolutely great for what you pay. I feel like they're the only company that holds true to what the original 1911 meant.
>>29352120
You should really learn a lot more about the 1911 platform other than chambering. Without saying, .45mm, because that is what is was designed for. Most modern manufacturers do not give an utter fuck about mil spec or using antiquated things such as calipers, so don't expect much for under $1,200, unless you believe in break-in period. This firearm was designed in a time of manufacturing where there were actual machinists, and hand-fitting was expected instead of a "luxury."
So yes, it's antiquated. If you want to depend your life on it, you should learn more about it. Otherwise, get a modern one that doesn't have these obstacles.
>>29352321
>.45mm
>>29352321
The weapon wasn't designed with handfitting at all.
It was designed for loose fits so any part could fit.
Also
>.45 mm
>>29352339
>>29352351
yeah, yeah. I wish it was an actual handcannon, but that was a typo.
It was designed thinking down the manufacturing line, handfitting was a part of the process. This was the early 1900s, filing was not a far out concept.
>>29352376
>.45mm
>handcannon
pick one
>>29352376
not sure if trolling or retarded
>>29352120
RIA 1911 is good. no frills, reliable 1911.
and I'd go 45.
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>>29352402
Yes, I made a stupid typo, which was honestly a pretty big error. 45 acp is .05 under half an inch, standard US military round from WW1 through Korea. 45mm was my poke at bofors territory.
Still doesn't address my point about 1911s being a century old design that needs more attention compared to modern manufacturing processes.
>>29352466
>.45 mm
>bofors
bruh, .45mm is fucking pencil lead
>confirmed retard
>>29352296
>mil spec
You know what that means fuck tard?
>>29352504
Reread the post you're quoting, realizing you're wrong. Understand the word typo. Understand a post, then address the overall point instead of latching onto insignificant details.
Maybe then, we can have a discussion instead of being an acme of board decline.
>>29352579
you referred to .45mm as a cannon, twice, and then later tried to play it off like you meant 45mm
fuck off nogunz
>>29352579
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/typo
>typo
> a mistake (such as a misspelled word) in typed or printed text
adding mm to .45 isnt a typo, its being retarded
>>29352606
First off, there was never a 45 caliber bofors gun made (to my knowledge, the standard was 37 and 40). Second, despite your lack of reading comprehension, you haven't addressed the main point in 3 posts, because pettiness seems more important than substance.
I guess I'm a crew-served noguns because of my peroid key.
Springfield milspec or loaded model for a good starter 1911. Forged frame and slide, world class customer service and custom shop, and very competitively priced. You can send the custom shop a plain Jane mil spec and they can build it up to a TRP, minus all the TRP logos.
A lot of people suggest the RIA, but they're cutting quality somewhere to get those prices. Cast frames is one of those cost cutting strategies.
>>29352120
S&W Performance Series. 9mm if you want, either way beautiful gun with excellent trigger.
>>29352120
>M1911
>9mm
That's not a 1911.
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>>29352376
>>29352402
>>29352466
>>29352504
>>29352579
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>>29352647
Jesus Christ, all of you just shut the fuck up!
>>29352120
Ria makes a simple GI model with no frills or for about $100 more you can get a citadel(same company diff importer) with RIA's Novak style sights(possibly night sights) elongated ambi safety, speed hammer and adjustable trigger and have a functional, above baseline 1911. Just make sure to get kimber or Wilson combat mags and enjoy the 200-500rd break in period.
Pic related, citadel 1911 I used to have. Swapped out the crappy factory grips for kimber black and silver. It is now in the hands of a Marine, so I know it is getting loved
OP look at the springfield range officer. It around $750. The features it has is a great target gun right out the box. Match barrel, match adjustable sights, and a match bushing.
Not op but does this seem solid? I figured building it myself could be better than buying one for the same price like they do with an ar15.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/heavy-armor-division-1991-gov-base-kit-ss
How are the Auto-Ordnance 1911's?
>>29352943
>.45mm
>>29354302
Aren't they literally the only good thing from auto ordinance?
>>29352120
Obviously .45
Also, our Lord and Savior John Moses Browning already designed a 9mm handgun, it's called the hi power. The hi power is also classy as hell
>>29352466
>.45 ACP
>standard US military round from WW1 through Korea
You do know the M1911 wasn't replaced by the M9 until 1985, right? We did use it for a few more engagements after Korea...
>>29352120
.45 ACP all the way, as far as one that's just simple? Just about any GI replica. As for reliable? Ruger and SA for probably what you're looking to spend.
Springfield Armory makes a Mil-Spec you can find for $600. If you want some frills you can spend a little more and get the Ruger SR1911. A little more than that and you can get the SA Range Officer. For about the same price you can get the Ruger Talo Rail if you want a railed 1911 at a cheap price.
Beyond those models the field starts to open up to other manufacturers in the $800 to $1600 price range.
>Everyone saying RIA
They're really not that great. Not considering you can get the SA Mil-Spec for ever so slightly more. RIA 1911s are mostly okay, but don't be surprised if you end up with a lemon. The SA is worth the difference (GB has ones to buy for $600) and will be much more reliable and accurate to boot.
>>29354393
Know anything else about them? Would they be worth getting? There not that expensive and never heard any shit about them unlike other 1911's in that price point(Remington, Rock island and the list goes on)
>>29355191
Supposedly they're good 1911s for the price and 100% American made. Never fired one, but if I was in the market for a cheap, plane-Jane GI 1911 I'd grab one.
I really don't see the appeal of 1911's to be honest. They're big, they only hold 7 rounds, they shoot expensive bullets, and they themselves are expensive. Aesthetics must be a big part of it, but you're getting the functionality of a $400 gun for $1000.
>>29355735
The downsides are obvious, indeed:
>Heavy compared to polymer
>Not unreliable, but not as reliable as modern pistols
>Single stack
.45 ACP vs 9x19 Luger is another discussion entirely. But in large part the differences are insignificant when considering JHP. FMJ is a different story. Same goes for hammer vs striker.
That said, there are the advantages:
>The worst 1911 has a better trigger than most semi-autos
>Ergonomic to most people
>Aesthetics
>History
>Highly customizable
>Design inherently lends itself to accuracy
If you don't like them, that's fine, don't let the cult of 1911 followers bother you though, because we will be here for a long time, even when kinetic weapons are a thing of past warfare.
Bump
>>29352120
Colt 80/91/70 series, or Springfield Mil Spec. Pick one in your price range amd you wont be disappointed
>>29355735
It's aesthetics.
