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How do you prepare for sudden, unexpected assaults by rival astronauts intent on relieving you of your moon dubloons?
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Choose your weapon
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>>29342440
Dunno about the legal situation, but how about a gun?
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>>29342445
Space axe
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Go silent, becuase scrubs always have their sound simulation on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4tpUcpycqY
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>>29342455
Guns don't work in space
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>>29342440

>tfw someone uses your snip
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>>29342461
0/10 fuck off.
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>>29342470
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>>29342470
But they don't? No oxygen to initiate powder combustion? I dun geddit guys did I just get rused
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>>29342440
A stunprod and a circular saw. Or a fireaxe should the saw be unavailable.
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>>29342445
TP-82. Because physics still apply to vacuum.
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>>29342487
you did not. read up on it. astronauts carry firearms still.
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>>29342487

Guns wouldnt work in space generally because they would work as propulsion (shoot the gun and you go flying) you could counteract this with recoilless rifle style weapons or something fancier.
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>>29342487

Propellant is all in the cartridge

How do you think guns fire underwater? Do they have gills?
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>>29342496
>>29342470
>>29342502
oxygen doesn't apply to vacuum, astronauts carry guns to defend themselves after they land
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>>29342445
Hand held light Gas gun loaded with high density micro shot to puncture many holes in space suit
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>>29342503
Or a 23mm auto cannon
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>>29342503

advenced
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>>29342487
Oh fuck it. Guns in space meme counters 101:

Gunpowder contains its own oxidizer, thus guns can fire in space.
Radiative cooling is sufficient to cool down guns.
Cold welding is unlikely to be a serious issue.

>>29342503
Guns are pitiful engines, and recoil is very easily countered by bracing against structures or using manoeuvring thrusters to compensate.
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>>29342513
is this a meme?

>Fires can't burn in the oxygen-free vacuum of space, but guns can shoot. Modern ammunition contains its own oxidizer, a chemical that will trigger the explosion of gunpowder, and thus the firing of a bullet, wherever you are in the universe. No atmospheric oxygen required.
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>>29342503
nice try Aaron Beck, but the human body is alot of mass to move for just a few shots. Full retard maybe...
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>>29342503
Dude stand on a rollerskates and shoot a gun i bet you go flying
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>>29342530
Some people are just retarded anon but we can't be to hard on them for it or they'll feel bad and act more retarded instead of trying to improve themselves
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By making sure my base is well defended. Making sure I have a few of these puppies doesn't hurt either.
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>>29342574
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S P E A R S
Spears. The good old knife on a stick. Why?

>no air resistance, none of that earthbound awkwardness as you move the spear laterally

>Range. Over and above an axe or knife.

>Pointy. Only needs one puncture to fuck up someone's life

>Stabby. No long swinging process like an axe. Stab stab and repeat. Ultra fast because no air resistance
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Charge the lasors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG5v7ng0o4A
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>>29342440
shotgun of course. loaded with 3.00mm shot to shred the suits of who I am shooting.
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No one going to say anything g about the fact the thriving space pirates are black?
> glawk4dinspace.jpg@homie
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>>29342963
I hope you know that a spear does not have a lot of air resistance. one of the perks of being a stick. It has mass though, which slows the spear stabbing. And mass does apply in space. So if your spear ain't shaped like an umbrella, really no advantage.
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>>29342440
contemplating german porn from the 80s

beat them to death with a massive latex dildo
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>>29342513
Actually oxugene is contained in gun powder itself. Guns work in space just fine, like they work under water for example. There are some problems with heat dissipation and lubricant vaporisation, but nothing, engineers can`t handle.
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>>29342963
spears are for pussies

get close and personal. crack them astro-skulls
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>>29342445
k
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>>29343081
>Simple Care and Maintenance!
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Advanced energy guns
Rapid Syringe guns
Chloral Hydrate autoinjector

Bears in the maintenance tunnels
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>>29342490
>>29343113
>not using floor tiles

post ckey
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>>29343101
IIRC you just pulled out the magic part and replaced it with another magic assembly. Wasn't it pretty reliable though?
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>>29342440
>letting the enemy vessel get close to you in the first place.
I think i will take this thing with me senpai. No recoil means that i will not be floating through space like an idiot.
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>>29343139
I actually don't know anything about it except that the Swiss watchmakers who designed it went mad and killed themselves before they explained the process to anyone
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>>29342550
Mass doesn't matter. Have you ever taken a basic physics class you mong?
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>>29343349
Meant to reply to >>29342539
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>>29343287
>implying the m40 was truly recoilless

Recoilless rifles still kick. Just less than you'd expect because of the way the gas is vented, allowing them to be mounted on tripods or in light vehicles instead of a full gun carriage. But you'd get plenty enough recoil from one to knock yourself tumbling in space
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>>29343139
It was pretty reliable because the clockwork was in a sealed box. The ammo ever only contacted the chamber and the barrel.
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>>29343081
the only correct answer
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>>29343349
>mass and inertia are unrelated
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>>29342461
Guns do work in space phaggot
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>>29343420

you're an idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WI_XNJenQg
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>>29342445
harpoon
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>>29342487
gunpowder is 25% propellant, 75% oxidizer
that's why it makes ass-quality bombs comared to real explosives
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>>29342440
>moon dubloons

You owe me a new pair of sides buddy. Also, Laser Pistol. The Soviets were on point with this stuff.
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>>29342440
chloral autoinjectors and unstable mutagen in a syringe.
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>>29342461
Soviets had a cannon on at least one of their early space stations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almaz#Defense_measures
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Assault nail gun
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>>29342502
>>29342513

Cosmonauts
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>>29342440
Bring a soap bar and slip him when he gets close.
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>>29343081
>Nazi space magic is real
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>>29342985
>N A Z I S P A C E M A G I C
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>>29343113
Cheeky breeky
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>>29344146
But what if he is not a scrub and bought no slips?
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>>29343779
I'd really like to see a video of this thing working. Can't blow a hole in you but punctures spacesuits.
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>>29344296
i think it's only a prototype

Since it's soviet (no copyright) perhaps the specifications for it are freely available somewhere?
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>>29343081
>Simple Care and Maintenance!

How does one maintain Kraut space magic without being a Kraut space wizard themselves?
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>>29342528
>Cold welding is unlikely to be a serious issue.
Why? I would think that cold welding and outgassing from any thermoplastics would be a significant issue.
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>not arming yourself with rule of cool IN SPEEHS
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>>29344120
>implying astronauts don't cc overengineered zero-gravity guns
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>>29344435
Thermoplastics can be replaced with other materials in most cases, so that's not too grave.

Cold welding isn't as much of an issue as some would think because you can keep most tools (including guns) lubricated and/or away from the vacuum until needed. Evidently any sort of sealant on a gun will be shot to hell (sorry) when the gun is fired, but until then it ought to be fine.

So it's not that you're wrong; these problems are just fairly easy to avoid.
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>>29342440
Wait wait wait, I thought the Space suits we have were pretty much bullet proof? Or at least designed to take impact from small objects moving very quickly though space on the off chance a dime sized rock smacks someone while they are onna space walk fixing shit.
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>>29342978
>and mass does apply in space
Depends on where you are. The astral equivalent of BFE? Doesn't have measurable, much less perceptible gravity, ergo mass does not (really) apply. Low earth orbit? Eh. You *might* be able to tell it's there, and it applies at a tiny fraction of standard earth gravity. Planets lacking an atmosphere? Depends on the planet. The moon has roughly 1/10th the gravitational pull of Earth, so using a spear would be 10x easier/less fatiguing. Somewhere else can have lower, higher, or the same gravity to earth.
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>>29343139
The like 7th iteration of it was pretty reliable. Its major issue was the ammo, the propellant liked to be kinda fragile and would chip/chunk out, resulting in inconsistent ballistics and little bits of unburnt propellant all up innit.

Once they figured out how to keep the ammo whole it was pretty good.
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How would we deal with this?
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>>29344721
Steer a bunch of the tens/hundreds of thousands of satellites we have in orbit into it, most likely.
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>>29344721
Nuclear weapons en masse. Going inside is suicidal, best case scenario is insanity/melted brain.
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Commissar Zhang Beihai of the PLA Space Fleet would take them out at ranges exceeding 1000km with nothing but a Type 2010 space-glock and a gyro-stabilized scope.
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This was actually a concern during the Cold War. The defense department wanted astronauts to carry light-based weapons (basically "laser guns") to blind any attackers. Can't see, can't fight.
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>>29344296
>>29344312
Nope, because its as fake as 7 dollar bill.

Laser weapons are constrained by laws of physics, which means - in this case lens.

This is how a laser target marker lens look. Any weaponised laser will need something similar.

To get 3mm point hole in target, lets say, 50 meters away you would need aperture (that is, lens) of about 30-40mm. So there you go. And 3mm hole in a suit will nt kill shit - while decompression process will stilll be too slow to kill our unfortunate spaceman before he patches himself up.

If you want to kill spacemen, get a short barreled shotgun with manual action. It will be cheaper, more powerful, more accurate, and more effective in every possible way.
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>>29344675
you are talking about weight. Mass is something constant, no matter where you are (unless we are talking about relativistic velocities, but thats whole another story).

So if your spear weights, say 10 pounds, holding it stationary in your hand will be less fatiguing in 0g or moon gravity. but swinging it or using it in any other way will require pretty much the same amount of energy.

Or, to put it simply - imagine that you ere in orbit, and you are punching a 10-tonne steel block with your fist. It wont move in any measurable way - instead you will hurt your hand, in the same way you would damge it by striking 10 tonne iron block in earth gravity.
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>>29345240

>shooting a shotgun in space
>immediately fly away in the opposite direction

Yeah, no.
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>>29342445
>black space camouflage

Would it work? Are we gonna have space ninjas hiding in space bushes, creeping up on space stations?
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>>29342440
Gyrojet pistols and improvised spears. Yes spears. Those suits don't have a lot of dexterity and poke a hole in one and they go flying.

>>29342461
Actually, they do. Mostly. Like most explosives, Gunpowder carries it's own oxidizer and the entire mix is kept in an air tight package.

That being said, all the lube is going to evaporate, freeze, freeze then sublimate, or dry out in a hurry and if you don't shoot the gun for a while the springs will supercool and get brittle. Cooling is also an issue as there's no air for air cooling. A barrel will get hot and then stay hot for hours.
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>>29342503
That just means they'd be crappy not that they'd be useless. If you're not braced onto something you'd go tumbling but you'd still get a shot off.
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>>29342440
Mosin nagant on a chain.

Work the bolt, run out of ammo, and throw it at someone and pull it back

The Russians thought of this in advance. What do you think the hole in the back of the stock is for?
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>>29342513
Fucking retard.
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>>29342528
>Gunpowder contains its own oxidizer, thus guns can fire in space.
Yes

>Radiative cooling is sufficient to cool down guns.
As long as it's a fairly short term engagement you wouldn't build up enough heat for cooling to be necessary but if you're blasting away like a machine gun that barrel is going it get hot and stay hot.

>Cold welding is unlikely to be a serious issue.
Yes, as long as you've coated the parts properly. If it's bare steel on steel it might be a problem but even a paint job would be enough.
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>>29342971
...you're horrifying.
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So thats what the axe is for
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>>29345439
Hiding vodka?
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>>29345339
Physics and space gunfighting 101:

You use the RCS / AMU backpack to get the movement under control.
If you are in untethered in frees pace , you are going to need it anyway to move at all.

And anyway, you wont fly much faster than you would slide if using shotgun while standing on rollerskates. .

Let me quote projectrho :

>.45 automatic will give 0.12 m/s of deltaV to a 50 kg person.

Thats pretty much nothing. And spacesuited space soldier dude strapped to maneouvering backpack weights about 5-8 times that .

And, of course, if you can brace against any part of your multi-tonne spaceship, then recoil is eve less of a problem.\to the point of being completely neglible.
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>>29342445
Gun. Always gun.
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>>29345497
Yes aliens love moon dabloons
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>>29345512
Nyet.

It's for the sling. You're only supposed to hook it to the back one, and use the other collar around it to attach to your wrist.
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>>29342445
Air rifle or slingshot for range, shark stick or spear for melee.
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>>29343101
Simple for ex-nazi astronauts.

That's their intended market for this gun, you know.
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can't believe Moonraker laser hasn't been mentioned yet. Sawed off Browning 2000 from Outland is a good space gun too.
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>>29343081
Fuck, if they didn't decide to make a retardedly fast three-round burst, we might have actually seen the G11 go into production.
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>>29342445
Ban scary black assault space suit now.
Think of the children!
Only military should have such a device!
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>>29344296
>>29343779
It wasn't a literal laser pistol like you would see in Star Wars, it was designed to fuck with enemy satellites and optics
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>>29343420
I have to post these webms with way too much regularity for my taste. Would you please quit being so ignorant?
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>>29345417
>That being said,
We already talked about this a long time ago. You store your guns where you keep troop quarters, if that is impossible then you just easily keep them stored on the suit in a similar containment that maintains the astronaut.

Now THAT being said, the lack of a conductive medium for conduction or convection to anything (except the space marine's gloved hands) means that heat is only going to be appreciably loss by radiation. Very slow heat loss. This means that overheating might be the real concern, so expect heavy barrel space gats?
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>>29345663
I remember seeing a Lego space ad a long time ago where a blacktron guy was hitting an mtron guy with a wrench on a landing pad.
FUCK DA SPACE PO-LICE, BLACKTRON DINDU NUFFIN
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>>29345727
Nuffin.
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Get bayonet and stab the enemy.
Vacuum means they bleed faster.
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>>29345694
Adding to this, the amount of time it takes to get too cold to fire safely will probably be so long that you'd only need a temperature controlled "scabbard" for your rifle if you were out for a Very long time indeed. Longer than I see being needed at the moment, but I also bet that combat in space will go through many birthing pains before it settles into something "standard."

I'm so fucking high.
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>>29344770
>mfw crashing orbital objects will actually be a thing
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>>29342458
man this game is so underrated
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>>29342969
fuck i want to see this in a new jaes bond movie l
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>>29345883
It was better before they added more weapons.
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>>29342458
>No sound in space
>Turns off suit systems
>sound disappears

BRILLIANT
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>>29345694
Water cooled barrels?
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>>29345586
>Air rifle

How many times do you have to pump that? In space.
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>>29346410
Might be better to just have a quick change barrel system be mandatory, practice only having two barrels.

One barrel could be removed and rapidly cooled through conduction if an (insulated from the rest of the suit) area on the back of the suit was brought along. This area would just be a heat sink box that is store OUTSIDE of troop quarters. So it will just be kit you strap to your ass as you leave to fight. It will be VERY cold already since it is stored without protection from the chill of space. It will take a long time to heat up if made correctly.

Or even more simply, just carry more barrels. And any barrel in mention will be somewhat sturdier (and likely more massive) than a typical earthborne equivalent.

You don't have gravity to pull you down and wear you out, just the inertia and mass to fight, which will only matter while moving and stopping. Anyone used to earth gravity should be able to easily compensate for this and benefit from heavier barrels.
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>>29346503
If it uses an air tank, that wouldn't be a bad idea. You might actually be able to push air rifles to their maximum effectiveness.

What were you thinking?
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>>29345866

it already is a thing
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>>29346503

Run it off your suit air or secondary air supply. It just needs to hurl flechettes hard enough to shred OP's suit. Most high power air rifles have a pressure cylinder capable of multiple shots.
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>>29342503
>shoot the gun and you go flying
I remember that drawing about a car with a GAU-18 or something attached to the roof to act as some kind of force-thruster to propel the car, And now im just Picturing some Mad Astronaut with a GAU rigged to his back, zipping around in space going faster and faster by the second...
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>>29342648
That looks baller as fuck.
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>>29342574
>You will never remove commie scum in a hover tank covered in tiger nose art with a portrait of Ike sitting by your radar display while gliding off of Olympus Mons killing ejected cosmonauts.
Battlezone 3 never.
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Ants.
Now obviously ants wot survive in space but bear with me

We take weaponized ants and load them into some sort of ant-dispenser. Maybe a tube, a hollow spear to load them into an enemy's suit, or projectile based pods filled with the ants. They will release into the suit and fuck them up
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>>29346901
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>>29346410
I've actually considered that.

The first problem is that without gravity the water doesn't want to stick to the barrel and the second is that because everything needs to be air tight the entire thing becomes a bomb.

>>29346511
Consider using compressed gas to cool the barrels. As a side benefit, this also helps clear the crap out.
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>>29345240 Fucking Hi-Point.

Gyrojet of course.
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>>29342445
Spear or something similar. I want as much range as possible and powder won't ignite in a vacuum.
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>>29350767
Yes it will, Gunpowder has oxidizer
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>>29350808
still spear, no limit on ammo or trying to reload in a space suit.
>tie spear to ten foot tether
>perfect non-arcing javelin stab
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bump for more space combat
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Anybody ever see Planetes? I really liked how they handled EVA combat in that.
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Space Axe
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M4
>tfw this was pretty much the highlight of the game
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>>29346938
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>>29345866
God damn it Tomino
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>>29346557
>Mad Astronaut with a GAU rigged to his back

No, Anon. You don't rig a GAU to an Astronaut.

You rig an Astronaut to a GAU.
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Pewpew.
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>>29345417
>>29350738
These niggers get it! In zero-grav, the recoil of a gun will effect you far greater than here on earth. Gyrojet projectiles are low recoil and accelerate AFTER leaving the weapon. It's the ideal space weapon.
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>>29345516
>>.45 automatic will give 0.12 m/s of deltaV to a 50 kg person.
if you're firing along a line through center of mass. Otherwise, you're going to start spinning from the applied torque. This will be like muzzle flip for your whole body.
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>>29342445
>warhammer 30k
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Spear gun or bow would be my choice. Imagine being able to shoot a bow and have it to straight forever
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>>29342513
How do guns shoot underwater?
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>>29351846
At short range the rocket doesn't have time to accelerate so stopping power suffers. At longer ranges the acceleration complicates shot leads.

Sure, it's pretty good as far as recoil goes but I bet we can do better.

Recoiless rifles, maybe?
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>>29345883
game is awesome, for sure. i still fire it up every now and then to play against bots.
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I'm surprised no one mentioned a revolver. Since the action is purely mechanical there's less to go wrong and say it was polymer or titanium framed one, better suited for the temperature changes. And loaded with something like saboted tungsten darts to go through suits or tungsten shot like that revolver in Vietnam.
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>>29342440
I would arm myself with a large caliber, relatively low velocity pneumatic rifle firing radio-frequency proximity fused high explosive shells.

fuck the geneva convention, im in space
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>>29343081
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>>29355623
gundam: reconguista in g?

pretty great anime desu. we'll see if it can dethrone 8th MS team.
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>>29344675
Good goy this guy may indeed be serious.
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>>29342990
>Implying you could use this without any footing
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>>29346608

Why must you hurt me so, Anon?
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>>29355668
Evangelion you dumbass.
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>>29342574
Mah nygguh
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>>29342440

By using my slingshot.
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>>29355827
Barbed hollow arrows. Space sucks out their guts like bubble tea.
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>>29344095
WINNER!
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>>29351676
>TFW you will never hike on Mars with a CAR-15.
Feels bad, man. Like, really bad.
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I BELIEVE THAT NOW IS THE TIME FOR MY ARMY OF SPACE MOTHS TO TAKE FLIGHT. FLY MY PRETTIES, EAT AWAY AT HIS SPACE SUIT, BRING ME HIS SKULL. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force
Guns would actually work better in space than they would in any atmosphere, a fucking .380 out of a 2" barrel could have an effective range of 10,000 meters, hell, it would have an infinite effective range until it hit something.
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>>29358403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M
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>>29358443
meh, I bet 10 bucks I can eyeball it
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>>29345240
the space pirates arrive at the ship ready to plunder, no sign of the crew outside they think its easy pickings an abandoned ship most likely.
As they gather at the hatch a shadow falls across them, they turn and see a lone figure floating in the front of the sun.
Squinting as the helmets of their space suits adjust to the brightness they just make out what appears to be a 20th century weapon pointed at them.
A scream other the radio makes them turn and look to their crew mate as his space suit is torn to shreds
they snap back and the strange figure is hurtling towards the sun.
to this day the first mate swears he saw the crazed astronaut giving them the finger as he floated to his death
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>>29344095
Unfortunately nail guns use blank cartridges, which means that you still are back to "Why not just use a gun?"
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Any objections?
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>>29361475
Although we spent most of this thread arguing about guns in space, I think nukes in space is a whole different can of worms.
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>>29342440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxTEVf9-4K4
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>>29342440
>>29342445
>None of them have their sun visors down

All of them would go blind, >>29342440 white guy especially
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>>29342445
BUT A NAIL GUN WOULD
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>>29344721
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>>29361808
Nail guns use blanks.
0/10 try again next time
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>>29344343
It's actually really simple to operate.

I mean, other than the clockwork mechanism.

But that part is actually reliable enough that it doesn't need to be field serviceable.
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>>29362129
>>doesn't know about pneumatic nailguns
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>>29342551
holy shit a real human being on 4chan
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>>29342963
>spear hits something hard

>you and enemy just move away from each other
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>>29342528
>Radiative cooling is sufficient to cool down guns.
I actually doubt this. Radiative cooling is the least efficient method of heat transfer. Air cooled weapons made for atmospheric operation would probably overheat quickly, but this could probably be remedied by making them with an active cooling system.
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>>29344675
>so using a spear would be 10x easier/less fatiguing.

except you have to fight the material that comprises the massive fucking spacesuit you're wearing that protect you from nothingness.

its like trying to sword fight someone while wearing a pressurized EOD bombsuit.

a firearm is a better solution
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>>29344675
Nigger mass is intrinsic to matter and does not change no matter how much gravitational force the matter experiences. Mass doesn't change, and inertia doesn't change.

You're not going to be lifting two tons with your pinky just because it's in space.
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>>29345631
That wasn't the only thing. Reunification with East Germany forced Germany to divert its resources to unfucking the communist mess. The G11 went to the chopping block because of it.
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>>29346511
>It will be VERY cold already since it is stored without protection from the chill of space. It will take a long time to heat up if made correctly.
Not necessarily. You would have to shield it from sunlight, otherwise it would heat up from that alone and lose its effectiveness.
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>>29353156
The MMU, which I might add was a design from the 1980s, provided 25 m/s of dV. More than enough to counteract recoil.
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>>29346503
I laughed so hard I had a coughing fit
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>>29355050
I fire it up in the vain hope there will be a populated server. Every now and then I'll idle on one for a few hours in the hope someone shows up while I'm doing something else.
>soul crushed
>uninstall yet again
Simple but really cool game, not enough achievements to keep the children interested though. On a brighter note, there's a new Descent out or coming out.
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>>29342440
This is my space gun of choice.
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>>29363236
>You're not going to be lifting two tons with your pinky just because it's in space.

You will. It will just take you a shitload of time to give it any velocity at all.
How the fuck do you think ion thrusters work? They apply about as much force as a sheet of paper does on earth.
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Best spess gun.
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>>29364198
>Equal and opposite reaction
Good luck finding your way back when you end up flying backwards towards the emptiness of space.
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>>29364420
>recoilless rifle
I'll be fine, good luck finding cover.
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>>29351833
WHAT ANIME
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A 10/22
>minimal recoil
>enough to peirce suits
>little heat
>can carry a bunch of ammo
>no air means supper increased effective range
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>>29364754
>no way to lubricate in space
>essentially deactivated gun after a few shots
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>>29342440
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I heard in space a fleck of paint can hit like a bullet

So I'll take a paint can, I'll throw paint at everyone to kill them
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>>29342440
I remember reading about Soviet experiments to try and create a laser pistol to "pop" enemy space suits if ever such an event happened. I don't think it really went anywhere, and was probably some kind of PR peace, but it brings up an interesting idea. You don't really need a bullet to kill an astronaut. If you can put a hole in his suit he'll be depressurized and die.

With modern laser pointers being strong enough to start fires, I don't think it would be that much harder to develop a strong enough laser to put into a pistol form. Just study modern high-powered lasers and crank that up to 11.
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>>29364788
From the thumbnail I thought that was a tiny gun in a condom
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>>29364266
The problem is you'll push yourself off of that two ton mass before you start moving it appreciably. I'm talking about manhandling things, not using constant thrust.
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>>29364862
Apparently they put enough work into the concept to have a number of prototypes made, but I have never seen concrete evidence that these things actually worked.
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Anyone have that pasta with astronaut skin walker?
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>>29347980
Ain't space really fucking cold? Why would you need to cool the weapon?
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>>29365007
I doubt it would work. If it did then it fired a needle like bullet from that weird cartridge in the magazine. If it was a proper laser it would need batteries. A battery that small back then couldnt have even tried to have powered it. Also why is it in a magazine? And why do we only ever see one bullet?
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>>29363147
>Radiative cooling is the least efficient method of heat transfer.
This is only true at low temperatures or in highly-convective mediums. Radiative heat transfer can be extremely effective at elevated temperatures, since it is proportional to the FOURTH power of temperature.
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>>29342440
An AR chambered in .17 Fireball, my logic being that the high velocity cartridge would minimize the projectiles travel time to the target. The casing would act as a heat sink, allowing a few shots more than caseless platforms before the gun overheats. Or a laser pistol.
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>>29365322
>.17 Fireball.
Meant .17 Remington.
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>>29365091
Space is cold in that there's no insulation, nothing to reflect the heat you radiate away back at you, and, when you're not in the sun, no external heat sources.
However, there is also no convective heat transfer, which is a large factor in cooling things on earth.
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>>29343317
Sauce?
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>>29364862
How "powerful" must a laser be to create a plasma channel here on Earth? Roughly is fine.
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>>29365958
>between 10^8 and 10^9 volts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolaser
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>>29365976
I'm a layman, can you give me a reference for how much that is, or how much space a battery big enough to give a useful amount of that juice would have to be?
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>>29365976
>between 10^8 and 10^9 volts
Hey, that's just the juice they send down the plasma channel once it is created, not how much juice is needed to make a plasma channel in the first place.
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>>29343287
>CLIP
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>>29343726
>>29345672
>>29345685
Oh, look, weapons that aren't the M40

Oh, look, an M40
https://youtu.be/aZAHJm0W8UQ?t=38s
Wow, that platform sure is shaking from the complete lack of recoil!
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>>29365991
That's a voltage potential on a similar level with lightning.
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>>29354763
Because water is one third oxygen you fucking moron
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>>29364266
If you've got a few hours to burn, sure.
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>>29364567
I'm going to say Gunbuster
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>>29365991
If you're aiming for 10^9V and use normal 1.5V batteries wired in series, you'll need 666 666 667 batteries. Of course, all the connections and whatnot will result in a LOT of losses, especially since we're probably going to want to get a lot of amperes out of this, so we can probably just round it off to a billion.

That'll be about 10 000 metric tons of batteries. Optimally stacked they'll take up almost 3900 cubic metres.

For comparison, here's a ship that can load about that much.
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>>29366070
Mind you, 106mm is an anti-tank round. If it wasn't recoilless it would have knocked the vehicle over.

In space combat you could get away with 20mm recoiless rounds and the recoil would be so low that you'd hardly notice.
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>>29366357
no. Just...no

Bullet cartridges are air tight containers and the powder has it's own air.

By your logic water would not put out fire.
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>>29344675
>The moon has roughly 1/10th the gravitational pull of Earth, so using a spear would be 10x easier/less fatiguing

What you gain from not having to worry about the spear's weight will in no way compensate for having to fight in a fucking spacesuit. You might notice how boxers and wrestlers get a bit sweaty even without any weapon whatsoever to lug around, because fighting in itself is hard, fatiguing work, and the spear will retain its inertia regardless of gravity.
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>>29344675
Gravity isn't the issue here. The issue is that you need to accelerate and decelerate the spear. The spear has the same inertia it has on Earth so the only real gain is that you can hold a stance easier.

On the other hand, you're footing isn't as stable so maneuvering is tricky. Because of the length of the spear, spinning it will spin you.
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>>29366477
The next gen spacesuits nasa is working on is basically skintight
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>>29366516
Ok, so it might end up merely being like going for a workout in a full neoprene drysuit, instead of a neoprene drysuit wrapped up in a small car. If/when they get it done.

Gravity's still the minor evil.
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>>29364567
>not recognizing gunbuster
How millenial are you Jesus christ
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>>29358403
It begins with an R and rhymes with de-oil
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>>29345339
>not holding the shotgun to one side
>not using the centrifugal force to blender any potental threat
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>>29356107
Underrated
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>>29366646
Sperg less maybe?

I mean shit, I'm over 30 and never seen it before.
>guess that's what happens when your rural midwestern town didn't even get dial-up til 1999
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The gun would push you back like a rocket engine
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>>29367882
0/10 fuck off.
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