Do you agree with the US Army's chief of staff that the MHS program should be dropped and Glock 19s bought as already used by special forces?
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/03/21/army-chief-eyeing-glock-pistol-as-services-next-sidearm.html
Which companies were contesting anyway?
>>29342383
Are glocks susceptible to dirt/dust/sand impeding function?
>>29342430
Yes. They severally impede the fragmentation of the glawk
What pistols have US special forces used in the last two decades?
>>29342430
Every firearm is. It's a mechanical device, if you clog it up it might not work properly.
>>29342621
Desert Eagle .50 AE
Tec-9
CZ-75 Full Auto
>>29342383
I thought the MHS competition was more or less tailored to try to get the sig p320?
The military will never implement an internal striker pistol
>>29342621
M9 and variants
P226
1911
P228/9
Glock 17/19
Mk23
HK 45
P11
Contenders so far
Glock: 17 or 22
SIG-Sauer: P320
Walther: PPQ M2
FN: Five-Seven Mk 2
S&W: M&P
STI-Detonics: STX
Beretta: APX
HK: Unknown
>>29342799
So after googling a bit.
Between every group M9 and 1911s in the early days. Then the Mk 23s for everyone but it's fuck huge, so SIGs for seals which they supplemented with HK45s whilst the marines kept going with 1911 models and then everyone jumped on the Glock wagon.
What did green berets and delta use between the M9 and Glocks?
>>29342383
Absolutely.
The Glock 19 has shown itself to be a very reliable and good pistol to use. Anyone who says otherwise is denying facts.
I think Glock pistols should be standard issue across all branches, but that's just me.
https://youtu.be/moJSGg_3B44
Could be cool.
>>29342658
P2000 bro.
>2016
>putting a weapon without a mechanical safety into the hands of a soldier
>I seriously hope you guys don't do this
Wasn't this thing being considered, at some point?
The problem with the US military adopting the Glock to replace the M9 is that you would have to issue a pistol without a true safety to subhumans who would shoot themselves and the soldiers around them at the drop of a hat without the 13 measures in place to stop them.
>>29343459
>Issuing pistols as general issue to soldiers
>>29342809
M&P, please for the love of god.
t. M240L gunner wishing he had a better sidearm
>>29342866
>What did green berets and delta use between the M9 and Glocks?
Pointing with their fingers and yelling bang.
>>29343482
Don't worry, they'll just add a slide mounted safety. This time they'll put it on the right side of the slide, where it belongs.
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>>29342383
Yeah, pretty much. Anyone who has ever been in the infantry and many who haven't know that pistols damn near don't mean shit in modern warfare. The Glock is simple, tooling and manufacture is already in the US, it is an established and reliable pistol, and it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to adopt.
The Army seems pretty fixated on having features for their new pistol, most of which aren't really necessary for real world applications. The Glock already has a smaller grip than the M9 and has adjustable backstraps for different shooters. Order them coated in a neutral color from the factory and you've got a service pistol.
>>29342430
Not overly so.
>>29342383
Would need a manual saftey.
I mean 100%, this is unquestioned.
However, glocks have been made with them, so who knows.
![special-forces-glock-19-hr[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ANjXnHp.jpg "special-forces-glock-19-hr[1].jpg")
>>29343791
>Would need a manual saftey.
No, no it would not.
>>29342383
good idea, having the same pistols and granades will ease up logistics
>>29343831
>The almost entirely European-descendant male special forces can handle the necessary discipline, so can the braindead fifth column chimps and hysterical menstrating females who joined for the gibs!
>>29343831
>special forces = the hundreds of thousands of soilders, sailors, and airmen who will operate these weapons.
>One week after issuing Glocks
>>29342430
Nope.
>>29342383
Yup.
>>29343851
>European-descendant male special forces
Nope, no fucking way am I wasting my time with one of you faggots.
Isn't there somewhere you should be?
>>>/pol/
>>29343851
this
gee if those guys that have spent more time training than the average solider speeds in the military can use it why can't private fuckwad use it?
>>29343831
If they don't put a safety on it they will give it a Jew York trigger
>>29342383
thisi s hte biggest freakin waste of time I ever saw wait out the patent on 5.7 (it works NATO trials almost saw adoption) then tell smith wesson and the rest to make a handgun for it. Or better yet go with smith wesson M&P series does what glock does but with somewhat better ergos. Hell put M&P and the glock head ot head see who wins thier is your next handgun.
![456x330[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NeMgFVu.jpg "456x330[1].jpg")
>>29343882
>>29343870
>>29343856
>>29343851
I sometimes wish HK didn't exist and the Five Seven became NATO's official sidearm a long time ago.
They should still hold the trials, the scientific method is important. Last time the army ignored it, we got UCP camo. There might be a weapon that performs better than the Glock, as improbable as that may seem.
>>29343886
Fuck dude that was hard to read
>>29343899
>Springfield XD
>>29343868
I'm sure you'll be fast at work on your tumblr blog defending the new wave of muslim Weewuzes who have banged their new glawk fawwwty gats muffuggah against the wall long enough to chamber a round and go on a Fort Hood.
>>29343892
Shut up about 22 mag, or you'll summon that one shitty trip.
>>29343890
wonder what his side-pork hanging over the holster will affect his response time :p
>>29343482
This.
Remember that privates touch these things, with retard junior ncos reinforcing misinformation
>>29343482
Isn't the glock already used by police departments all over America? I think if overweight donut-chasers can do it, the military can probably handle it as well.
Granted some of them /do/ end up glocklegging themselves, but it's not super common and where else would we get such quality youtube entertainment if not for "safety demonstrators" shooting their feet off?
How can it take years to decide on a new service pistol. Fucking hell.
>>29344498
Bureaucracy.
>>29342383
They are already issued grenades tho
>>29342383
>Do you agree with the US Army's chief of staff that the MHS program should be dropped and Glock 19s bought as already used by special forces?
Don't care, it's not like anyone that isn't a 1SG/SGM, 03 and up, an MP, or *maybe* a gunner (outside of SF/SOF) is going to even use a sidearm for in their career.
>>29342809
>Walther: PPQ M2
Why the M2 and not the superior 1st Gen PPQ?
Fuggin ambidextrous controls.
>>29343482
Don't worry, anyone who is issued a firearm will only be given a single magazine with 1-3 rounds.
>>29342658
>CT
>Tec-9
Dualies or die
