Lets point out the /k/ related inaccuracies within this film, I'll start.
>flamethrowers don't explode in a huge fireball when the canister gets shot
>in real life the landing craft hit the beaches getting hit with harassing fire, not accurate machine gun fire from a bunker 100m in front of you
>tanks do not advance down narrow streets
>German soldiers did not have shaved heads Irl
>rifle bullets do not remain lethal through that much water
>the drivers viewport on a Tiger is armored preventing from firing through it
>>29326162
kill yourself, nigger
>in real life the landing craft hit the beaches getting hit with harassing fire, not accurate machine gun fire from a bunker 100m in front of you
In most sectors yes, but at Dog Green they were literally getting mowed down before they even got off the landing craft.
>Amerifats are too stupid and incompetent to bring tanks with them
>Gets a couple thousand people killed
>Make movies pretending its bravery rather than stupidity
>>29326265
>>Amerifats are too stupid and incompetent to bring tanks with them
uh oh eurocucks are awake
we did bring tanks, too bad they all sat in the water because most of the floats for them had either failed or they had sunk
>>29326162
Judy Hopps wasn't present.
>>29326278
Strange how the brits managed to produce tanks that wouldn't sink
Maybe the dumb shit amerifats should have tested their floatation rigs first or asked to use the brits tanks huh?
But no, better that thousands of people die than ask someone else for help.
Apparently this sort of rampant murderous incompetence was quite common back then.
Responsible for the failure of market garden, among others.
>>29326162
The plastic rifle bags used in the beginning were actually OD, not clear.
>>29326312
Troll harder.
>a bell tower is literally the worst position for a sniper to be in
>combat troops do not move around in enemy territory in tightly packed groups talking loudly to each other
>>29326312
>AMERICANS ALONE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FAILURE OF MARKET GARDEN
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>a maths teacher can join the army during WW2 and make captain in time for D-Day
>>29326351
no
>rampant egotistical murderous incompetence
is responsible for the failure of market garden
>>29326162
Which WW2 movie is that?
Every one I watched was just some dumbass "AR BOYZ GOTTA SAVE DA WORL FRUM DA NAZZIS" propaganda piece selling the "just war" narrative.
>>29326383
it's not a just war, it's just war :O)
>>29326312
>He doesn't realize that the DD Sherman was a British design
It worked fairly well when it wasn't being drowned by the 7 foot waves at Omaha.
>>29326383
/pol/ pls go
The best way to take out an MG nest out in the open is to run straight at it throwing grenades.
>>29326428
It's not the best plan, but it can work.
>>29326312
It must be hard to deal with your entire continent needing to be rescued by the world's greatest military power, but I would deal with it in ways other than trolling
>>29326360
>what is reserves
>what is massive troop numbers mean automatic promotions
>>29326286
>soon...
>>29326312
You are very bad at this and should feel bad. However, if you dirty Europeans would have put up a fight to begin with, we wouldn't have had to bother with bailing your asses out now would we?
>>29326491
The US was the #1 influence working behind the scenes to start the war
>A tank will use it's main gun against a lone sniper at point blank range.
>>29326460
A better plan would be to have one fire team flank it, one fire team supress and the sniper can initiate the contact by picking off one of the enemy.
>>29326526
By being too lenient on Germany and getting its debts forgiven.
>>29326567
smoke grenade works every time.
>>29326567
This would have been a good option. Or going for an even wider flank all together and coming in from behind the emplacement and still initiate with sniper fire. Those three Germans were pretty oblivious in that scene.
>>29326567
Too much time. KAMIKAZE!!!!
>>29326623
To be fair, he had already been shot in the gut. Grenading and Tommygunning three machine gun positions with one hole through you at the start doesn't leave you that much time.
>>29326581
The eternal anglo
cause of all wars & evil
>>29326692
Yes, the evil British declared war on the poor, innocent Germans for repeatedly encroaching on the land of other countries after they were repeatedly told it would lead to war :^)
>>29326711
Poles were promised gains of land, population, and territory if they started a war with Germany, just like happened after WW1.
Thats why poles threatened war over danzig
Thats why they started to mobilize their army
And thats why Germany invaded poland.
Ofc the Eternal Anglo had never had any intention of helping poland, they only wanted their casus belli to start a war against Europe.
Brits only declared war because Roosevelt promised he would get America involved.
>>29326738
thanks for the history lesson Goebbels
>>29326738
oh boy, here we go
>/pol/ pls
>>29326738
Ah yes, a preemptive strike :^)
That's why they tried to fake a Polish invasion, right?
>>29326240
The beach was still ~500 yards wide. You didn't hop off the boat within 100 yards of the cliff.
>>29326488
Get your furry shit out of /k/, furry faggot.
>>29326162
>Autists with the 'tism so fucking bad that they can't even enjoy a move
Hero yourselves.
a captain leading a squad
>captain
>>29326959
>>29326931
but it didn't make a difference...i went there once at low tide, which were identical to the conditions they would have landed in and to be honest it wouldn't have mattered if it was 100 or 500 yards, guys just got mowed down by the dozens.
>>29326162
Things I learned from SPR:
>Driving open-topped Marder tank destroyers through a town with known hostile infantry has obvious tactical benefits.
>German Waffen-SS troops thought that tracer bullets tasted like candy, and lunged into American fire only to realize the shocking deception.
>When your Tiger tank has a disabled track, you unlock the toilet-lid sheet metal hatch and greet your former enemies
>The average age of the American GI invading France was late 30s and early 40s
>American Mustangs can destroy Tiger tanks by flying over them.
>driving opened top Marder III tank hunters down a street
Didn't they learn NOT to do that shit from Ivan?
>>29327029
The average age of a combat soldier in WWII was 26. Given that tons of guys signed up at 17 or 18, it's not entirely unrealistic for there to be a bunch of 30-40 year olds.
>>29327029
didn't they throw a grenade into the hatch then open it up? (they being the american paratroopers, not the tank commander)
also, the average age of GIs in WW2 was 26
the movie makes it look like that they capture omaha too fast
it was only after 12 brutal hours and some brave seamen in destroyers providing coastal bombardment that the americans secured their beachhead
>>29327021
I think the movie actually makes it easier. In real life, the landing took all day. In the movie, they're in the trench line within 10 minutes.
The first wave on Omaha Beach suffered ~90% casualties.
>>29327102
the tanker commander opens it and pokes his head out. The paras then shoot him and prop the hatch open with their guns while they drop grenades in.
>>29326526
We all forget about Britain's fabulous contribution to the war. Neville Chamberlain achieved peace in our time, guys.
>>29326312
>GOODWOOD was a perfectly great operation because no Americans :DDD
>>29327029
>American Mustangs can destroy Tiger tanks by flying over them.
We watched SPR in history in year 11 in high school and one of the girls asked what plane it was and the teacher didn't know. Lad at the back chimed in with "Spitfire! Best planes in the war."
>>29327105
It's clearly getting dark when they're past the beach, especially evident when those two Czech guys are shot, but the editing makes it seem like it took a couple hours at most.
>>29326162
what were the black bags supposed to be?
>>29327172
>In real life,
>In the movie, they're in the trench line within 10 minutes
Would you rather the movie be fourteen hours long? Also, you are aware it's a movie and not a documentary, right?
>>29327239
Black bags when?
>>29327241
They can have cuts.
How does it feel to know that d-day was only a success because the nazis' sustained fire eventually melted their barrels and, in the end, ran out of 8mm and mortar shells? Shit was a fucking meat grinder, allied forces just kept coming and the nazis kept pouring lead into that human wall.
>>29326312
Market Garden only happened because Montgomery was a huge pain in the ass that insisted on pushing that abortion. Eisenhower knew it was a bad plan, but didn't want to fuck up our relationship with the British. So he gave Montgomery his mission so he could fuck it up and finally shut the fuck up.
You know nothing John Snow.
>>29327269
4,400 killed out of 150k. Either you need to get a grip on reality or Nazis needed better aim.
>>29327209
>implying a country that lost a whole generation of men that were to create the men of the 1940s wants to declare war when it's in no way ready
>not understanding how devastating it is in almost every way that war is to most countries
Maybe if you knew anything about WWI you'd understand why they avoided war as long as it seemed reasonable. They also didn't have the ability to have retrospective thinking on WWII like we do.
>>29327269
lel,there was no chance that they would've held out Normandy since Hitler made the brilliant decision to put the Panzer too far out of supporting range
and even if Omaha failed,there was other goddamn beachhead that they could utilize to circumvent that,but you retard ass didn't consider right?
>>29327241
ruh roh here comes the "you realize it's a movie and not a documentary" police!
>>29327029
But anon those were "Panzer" tanks, not Marders!!!!11
>>29327334
>put panzer divisions right next to a beach
>it gets spotted and allies land some place away from them
That's why you don't put it right on a beach.
>>29327339
I only do it because you autists don't understand the fucking difference
>>29327365
Or they get nailed by naval batteries and aircraft.
>>29327294
Also the civilian leadership pushed for the wars end by christmas
and in the end it almost worked even with the poor planning,ignoring dutch intelligence and multiple setbacks since the armored division only arrived a hour late to support the coldstream guards and they were only one bridge short of meeting their objective
but alas,it was an all or nothing type of battle
>>29327359
>thinking troops are gonna take the fucking time to say tank destroyer
It may as well have been a tank from an infantryman's perspective
>>29327269
Only Omaha suffered horribly. The other beaches went much more smoothly.
>>29327365
yeah i misworded that,it was too far out to react to any landing invasion and too short inland to properly coordinate an armored push
>>29327426
And 4/5 aint bad
>>29327434
>too short inland to properly coordinate an armored push
And they would have been cut to shreds by allied airpower and partisans even worse than they were while en route. It took Panzer reserves almost two weeks to go the distance that should have taken three days.
>>29327416
If the movie were reality, it probably would have helped to know that it was two tigers and two open air TD's, instead of just four tanks. Also don't act like it was anything but a movie mistake. /k/ related inaccuracy.
>>29327479
>movie mistake.
I'd say more just putting things in terms that the general public would actually understand
I still say they might well have called out four tanks IRL anyway
also i thought that tiger was superbly rare in the western front
so seeing two would probably be very unlikely
>>29327239
its a waterproof ammo bag i'm pretty sure.
that or a waterproof bag to hold some other damn thing that shouldnt get wet
>>29327501
But a Tiger platoon was nominally made up of 2 Tigers and 2 assault guns.
>>29326383
its saving private ryan, on the off chance you're not a troll
>>29327544
Would anybody, let alone the average American soldier, have known the composition of a Panzer platoon?
>>29327562
Yes?
>>29326931
>500m
is not a super long shot for a fixed machine gun firing at vehicle sized target.
>>29327241
>Would you rather the movie be fourteen hours long?
yes
>>29327239
>>29327537
Gas mask bag.
>>29327582
And that's why Band of Brothers exists.
>>29326428
>>29326460
>>29326567
>>29326617
>>29326619
>>29326623
>>29326648
iirc, the point of that scene was to show that Cpt. Miller WASN'T thinking clearly, and made a rash decision that got one of his men killed. If you rewatch the movie, hints get dropped throughout showing Miller was slipping (hand tremors, for example.)
Besides, officers make shit decisions all the time, and Miller's wasn't all too bad really. He was actually pulling a textbook tactic used in the war to assault an MG: three prongs charge the MG, which can only fire on one prong at a time, so two prongs will always be advancing, with the BAR gunner laying suppressing fire on the nest. Once in range, you lob grenades to knock out the nest. Now, IRL, this process could take a couple hours realistically; it's less a made dash and more a very slow advance from cover to cover when openings present themselves (barrel changes, reloading, etc.), but obviously it was abridged for the movie's sake.
>>29327722
>He was actually pulling a textbook tactic used in the war to assault an MG: three prongs charge the MG, which can only fire on one prong at a time, so two prongs will always be advancing, with the BAR gunner laying suppressing fire on the nest. Once in range, you lob grenades to knock out the nest. Now, IRL, this process could take a couple hours realistically; it's less a made dash and more a very slow advance from cover to cover when openings present themselves (barrel changes, reloading, etc.), but obviously it was abridged for the movie's sake.
Always knew that was a legit method. It makes sense.
>>29327803
its pretty much what's done on almost every position in open country when you have numbers, even today
>>29326312
Piss off Monty. We all know you're still ass flustered when Patton took the flank of Sicily then turned around and beat you took your own objective as well.
>>29326544
>Captain. Do you zee dat tower?
>Ja.
>there is a sniper in it.
>wanna blow it up for shits und giggles?
>>29327943
Like what was said in the movie that was completely legit
>multiple men is a juicy opportunity, one mans a waste of ammo
>>29326360
>>29326475
this always confused me. I wonder how Cpt. Miller and Sgt. Horvath got to be where they were. Miller was clearly in his mid 40s, would the rangers really take somebody like him and give him rank?
>OH MY GOD MY LIVER
>>29328049
It's called adhering to stereotypes for a war movie
>grizzled older and experienced sergeant that's seen it all
>educated and feet on the ground, but unenthusiastic old officer
Makes the film easy to understand, especially if you aren't privy to military stuff.
>>29326931
>The beach was still ~500 yards wide. You didn't hop off the boat within 100 yards of the cliff.
Were you expecting them to film the landing scene at the actual fucking beach where it all took place? You know, that little historical landmark?
The beach used in the film was the next best thing.
>>29326544
>A tank will use it's main gun against a lone sniper.
German doctrine literally states you destroy church bell towers and any other high buildings to deny snipers firing locations.
>>29328098
no shit, but realistically would that happen? I mean, I get theyre short handed for the war but id picture somebody of Millers age and type being more of a reserve/logistics/back of the line type of duty
>>29328049
Maybe they fought in the Spanish Civil War with the commies.
>>29326414
>implying he's wrong
name a single western film revolving around the topic of WW2 that goes out of its way to include the other side of the story as anything other than gif related
>>29328091
What is the problem with this scene?
>>29326265
There were tanks fuck knuckle, infantry were landed first then once a foothold was established, bigger landing craft with tanks arrived on the beach.
>>29328153
Maybe that's true, but it's Tom fucking Hanks. He filled the role damn well, and in spite of Tom Sizemore having been a drug addict, he played the role extremely well. It's just Hollywood.
Notice how Band of Brothers was noticeably more realistic in that sense? That's Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks having more control over the series because it was more independent, and so big names didn't mean anything.
>>29327021
Took a trip there last summer, returning this summer. The beach was fucking sobering as hell, couldn't fathom actually being there.
>>29326162
Some of them did get hit by mg fire within 100m of them tho and some tanks did advance in narrow streets...
>>29327601
Is there something similar for other American fought conflicts?
>>29328333
Outside of the Pacific, I dunno. Generation Kill? I haven't seen that though.
>>29328333
The Pacific (Pacific campaign WWII). Generation Kill (Marine invasion of Iraq).
>>29328351
>>29328366
Cool. Loved Band of Brothers.
>>29328351
Generation Kill is rad if you can overlook some technical inaccuracies and the obvious airsoft guns used in some scenes.
That or I wasn't aware Classic Army was awarded a DoD contract in the 90s
>>29328270
fun fact. Spielberg made Sizemore take regular drug tests and if he failed any hed be fired on the spot and a replaced would fill in, no matter how far into shooting they were
>>29326162
The Atlantic wall consisting of autistic tier bunkers with fuck huge view ports
>>29328333
Tangentially related, watch "Unsere Mutter, unsere Vater" if you haven't already.
>>29328333
I also recommend >>29328829
It'll be called Generation War, on Netflix.
My favorite war movie, and favorite movie in general.
>>29326162
>point out the /k/ related inaccuracies in film
Why even bother?
They didn't get leave halfway through to go and run a train on the op's mom
>>29328858
>>29328829
Generation War is okay if you watch it simply as an extended length movie. It's been compared to Band of Brothers but it's nowhere near it in terms of it in acting, plot, or historical accuracy. Production values are reasonably high.
The confluence of plot factors that repeatedly bring the cast together are are just hilariously contrived. And less importantly it gets a lot of flak for not painting Nazis rank and file as comically evil villains (despite the presence of true believer SS/Gestapo officers and penal battalions who give no fucks) but rather people in love with the lie which ironically is probably closer to the fact. It does however minimize most of the examples of atrocities it does choose to show. IIRC it was originally major network programming so that's not shocking.
It's worth a watch but it's not great or anything. Stalingrad (1993) was much better in the same vein despite the infallible lieutenant.
>>29327209
You realize that Munich is considered a major success by actual historians, right?
Hitler considered Munich one of his greatest defeats, and the Italians soon themselves out in North Africa.
>>29326993
to be honest, it wasn't that good a movie. spielberg laid it on with a fucking spoon. it was shit. fags just get caught up in the opening scene and the blatant muh muh muh feels shit that spielberg always pulls.
>>29328947
>comically evil villains
nah, they were just banally evil villains.
>>29326312
Because the Brits totally did that whole Dieppe raid so well right? Lol.
Or how Sword Beach was such a heavily defended obstacle right?
Go to bed yuropoors.
>>29327583
This.
>>29329062
Both the Gestapo officer who moves to postwar bureaucracy (banal as you can get) and the SS major were certainly banal as opposed to being cackling maniacs, which I think was a large part of the criticism, like I said. The penal battalion commandant was certainly much more stereotypically Hollywood evil. For the most part, the rest of the cast other than the main protagonist(s) were useful idiots or cannon fodder. What felt like the main protagonist however was so angsty you cannot like him even if he is frequently the most reasonable, alternating with his brother who gets butthurt angsty in the end. Their juxtaposition was probably the most interesting thing in the miniseries and even that felt contrived. The treatment of the Jew by the partisans was mildly interesting and hints to the uninformed just how many forces were at work there in world war II. It's okay if heavy handed.
>>29329131
Dieppe raid was mostly Canadians.
To be fair however, we did manage to capture the 2nd most defended beach, and get furthest inland of all the landing parties.
Feels good to be Canadian (for once).
>>29330183
Canadians were the shock troops of the empire for a reason. You might be a hat, but it's a well respected hat.
>>29327029
>when your tank is disabled you stay in it
You must be an expert then right?
>>29330183
I'd take any syruplander in war before a brit. You should all read about the trench raiding they did in WWI
I couldn't stand all the bullshit in the movie
>Anti tank mines being used to blow trenches in beaches
>Sniper praying while shooting instead of holding his breath
>Pointless Vin Diesel death scene
>Tom Hanks killing a Tiger with a .45ACP
>Americucks using semi-automatic rifles way back in WWII
>Paratroopers being useful for anything other than wriggling clay pigeons for German soldiers
Shit movie.
>>29330653
>>americucks using semi-automatic rifles way back in WWII
and that one scene where fucking 6-7 GIs get mowed down by a german 20 mil.
WTF
that pissed me the fuck off, why the fuck does it take so many fucksticks to throw a grenade in a disabled tank.
fucking no more than two should have been sent while the others provided covering fire.
jesus christ no fucking order there, i almost dont feel bad
>>29330582
Not that anon but if there is enemy infantry around your vehicle why would you open up LOCKED hatches and just invite them to "fuck my shit up f@m"
>>29330653
>Americucks using semi-automatic rifles way back in WWII
Uwot?
>>29330653
The tiger is bombed by the P51 that flies overhead, shit-for-brains. The characters fucking explain it to you.
>what is the M1 Garand
>>29328878
bauhaus, in the middle of our beach
>>29330653
>Americucks using semi-automatic rifles way back in WWII
You didn't know that the US military used the M1 Garand in WW2?
>>29330653
I remember them using bangalores to blow a hole in the concertina wire, they used AT mines too?
>>29329292
i was referring to the phrase the banality of evil.
I haven't seen the movie and i don't fucking care.
>>29330653
>>29330736
Forgot some
>what is the M1 carbine
>what is the Thompson
>what is the M3 Grease gun
>>29330526
>Canadians were the shock troops of the empire for a reason
The British were running low on men?
>>29330742
He's demonstrably retarded, they were bangalores.
>>29330752
>what is the Thompson
>what is the M3 Grease gun
SEMI-auto
>>29330752
BAR could semi auto too, a few Johnson rifles were in fact issued, the Reising, and the M42. Don't forget the little oddballs.
>>29330760
They're self loading, which is more similar to semi than bolt action.
>>29330653
You literally don't know anything about WW2, do you?
>>29328858
>>29327601
>>29328366
Are there any series like this from the Russian perspective?
I'm turning into a bit of a Slavaboo
>>29328006
You spelled schitzengiggles wrong anon
>>29328878
Those are observation towers, not defensive bunkers.
>>29330653
>guaranteed replies
I think the chief of staff of the army had better things to do during operation overlord.
>>29330714
So you could leg it away from your immobile (and thus very killable tank). The only stupidity was opening the hatches and NOT legging it under covering fire.
First thing people complained about was that the Tiger's tower was too far forward.
>>29328158
Enemy at the gates kind of. Seems like they tried to humanize ed harris' character
>>29326312
dude the brits pretty much just fucked around in north africa until d-day
>>29328158
Flame and citron. Important nazi officials put in high places regardless of the fact they don't believe in the regime.
>>29330653
>Tom Hanks killing a Tiger with a .45ACP
>Americucks using semi-automatic rifles way back in WWII
even though I know you're trolling this post still fucking annoyed me
>>29326360
maybe he had a degree and got to go in as 2nd lieutenant
>>29330891
Everyone knows that those goddamn ruskies are the scum of earth and every single one of them deserved death
>>29326278
Well your tanks (and Willy jeeps) prolonged and eventually won the African theater and as a result both the Western and Eastern front.
>>29326463
>Phrases it like Germany isn't/wasn't part of Europe.
You guys needed help from the entire rest of the world just to take down one of our countries and even then almost managed to fail.
>>29331325
But this is Germany you're talking about. No other country in Europe could have done that, because nobody else was so autistically industrious.
>>29330737
bauhaus it has a kraut
>>29330627
>I'd take any syruplander in war before a brit. You should all read about the trench raiding they did in WWI
I did a big ol NATO joint training ex with the Canadians and the Brits a while back. The Scott's Guard were on their shit. All of them extremely experienced with like 4 deployments each under their belt.
The canadians on the other hand were retarded and just kind of bumbled through everything. Were very unprofessional. Drunkenly pissed in our water buffalo. Tried to steal shit start fights and had a general air of arrogance to them. I saw the fattest infantryman I've ever seen. The porker sat at like 3 hundo. Granted they were french canadians. I give them a 4/10. Not as bad as ANA tho.
The tankers from Alberta were really nice and polite though. Walking stereotypes.
>>29331444
Dude, we hate the Vandoos as much as anybody. Shit, one of my master jacks flat out claims they're treasonous. Don't let the Vandoos be your example of us.
>>29330627
>You should all read about the trench raiding they did in WWI
literally everyone did trench raiding
>>29326240
>>29326931
>>29327021
>>29327172
How accurate is SLA Marshall's account?
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1960/11/first-wave-at-omaha-beach/303365/
the other day i was wondering if you can scale the size of a bow and retain effectiveness when i was thinking about the giant in game of thrones. i know there's ballistas and siege bows but are they fundamentally different from normal bows?
>>29326491
>Euros didn't put up a fight
K
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Moscow
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad
>>29328158
Letters from Iwo Jima, Shindler's List, Valkerie and The Pacific. Also Germany is part of the West so technically Downfall, Stalingrad, and Das Boot would also the count. There's also one called Europa Europa about a Jewish guy who lies about being Aryan, gets sent to the front, and becomes a Nazi war hero. Kind of a black comedy.
>>29331903
>First wave ineffective. We do not hold the beach
Understatement of the year
>>29327317
They might have had more men if they had any grasp of modernized tactics in WW1.
Brits really didn't care to solve population pressure issues in humane ways.
>>29326162
dont shit on that movie, it shows the only real battle in ww2 on the western front
>>29332010
Why bother when you can just dump in millions of colonials and then take all the credit?
>>29326351
I know as a Brit I'm meant to revere this man above all others.
But he was an egotistical idiot who had one genuine success using outdated tactics and paid too much attention to his own hype.
It was the competent corps/divisional commanders below him who saved his reputation on many occasions. Horrocks being a prime example.
>>29331444
French Canadians are legitimately subhuman
>>29328333
The next hbo miniseries, following band of brothers and the pacific, is being made.
Focusing on the eighth airforce and based on 'masters of the air'. Scripts finished in december so probably 2017 release.
>>29330974
You're more killable outside of your tank than inside it.
Even if it can't move, you still have the turret, machineguns, etc.
At the very least, a bunch of boots aren't going to be able to get in.
>>29331903
I never knew it was that bad
>>29332140
It's really situational, being inside is better than getting shot by small arms outside, being shot by small arms outside is better than a bazooka shot into your side armor and being cooked inside the tank.
It comes down to judgement, and this TC made a bad call.
>landing boats either had ramps that opened forward, so people could shoot right into them or had no ramps so they had to jump out of them and risk being shot that way
why weren't there any boats with side opening doors they could use as cover or rear opening doors what the fuck
>>29330891
There is a series called Strafbat iirc. It's about punal batalion. But its pretty boring, main hero looks like a gopnik and the rest of characters look like hobos and die after 2 episodes so you are constantly confused who is who
>>29326162
>this work of fiction wasnt realistic
i bet you get mad at call of duty and battlefield for being unrealistic
>>29326162
>saving private ryan was a WWII documentary
>>29326162
An officer being in front lolol
>>29326312
Lol like the rampant murderous incompetence at Verdun? Good troll 8/10
>>29326360
>Fighting since Kasserine Pass
>>29327562
Jesus Christ. This is not some super secret squirrel unit. They'd encountered these things before. Rangers and Paratroopers would definitely know the composition of a Panzer platoon.
>>29331929
>talks about Euros fighting well
>only posts battles in Russia
Anon...
>>29326312
Eroucucks kniw jack shit about he we liberated thier worthless asses
>>29327537
>I'm pretty sure it's X but there's an equal chance that it's something completely different because I actually am not pretty sure
>>29332365
There were amtracks, but those were used mostly by the marines, none were used during operation overlord
>>29327239
Those are pfds
>Every fucking thread about WW2 on /k/
>Some buttblasted Brit has to obsessively hate on Americans
>>29330891
In poland, "Four tankmen and a dog".
It's the shit there.
>>29326907
Don't forget that the USSR invaded Poland at the same time as Germany and took more land than Germany yet Britain and France didn't declare war on them.
>>29327029
>GIs invading France
Liberating, anon, liberating.
>>29330755
The Brits have always been short on men
>>29333459
Its generally an American pretending to be a Brit.
>>29326265
do you not understand how battles work. you dont just roll up there in tanks and hope that they dont have a line of raketenwerfers or something. you send men in first to assess the situation. at least sending soldiers in first you dont lose the soldiers AND millions of dollars in equipment.
>>29326312
We should have let uncle adi
bomb you fog breathing tea suckers into the fucking dirt. You maintained your sovereignty because of american blood and steel. After we beat your bitch assds twice.
Gretest empire my ass, Britain a shit
>>29332081
>I'm supposed to revere him
Why? I'm British and I don't. Don't think I've read a British history book that mentions him that doesn't mention his many flaws.
Of course he was whitewashed at the time, it was a war, like McArthur didn't get shit at the time.
>>29328829
The girl in this is cute
>>29328118
But the distance they had to push up the beach was kinda an important aspect of the battle. They could have just used film trickery to make it look further or find a beach that was more accurate
>>29333588
>McArthur
>>29333650
I personally found it pretty amusing that the one person they have to showcase the ideal german is also the only jewish actor.
>>29333476
>"Four tankmen and a dog"
kek
>>29333921
It looks exactly how I imagined it would.
>>29327317
>implying Germany didn't have the same problem
>implying Germany have a lot more to do to catch up, considering the ass blasting she took during and after WWI
>all these implications
Face it, Britain dun goofed during the pre-war period.
>>29326265
if youre living in europe man then you should respect them too. America in no way defeated the nazis single handedly. However witout the participation of every allied country the war would have been lost. You should just respect all of the allied soldiers bro
>>29326874
kek
>>29328201
>MOMA MOMA MOMA MOMA
>>29328158
alright where is that scene from?
>>29333481
not only did they not invade at the same time
but the treaties specified german aggression
>>29326312
>rampant murderous incompentence
Thats cool and all, but google cannon fodder you retarded soon-to-be sand nigger.
>>29333799
Schneider?
>>29333993
maybe we should have let the brit cucks get nazified, then join with the USSR to take over the world
>>29333459
This looks as if the design was meant to be more cool looking than practical.
>>29328158
What movie is this?
>>29330183
Canadians are, quite surprisingly, very competent when it comes to war.
oh look another thread where the americans beat their own meat on how they won the war single handed.
>>29330755
You fought with more tenacity and fury than any other soldiers on the western front during WW1. You were the single most feared/respected troops by the Germans.
>>29326360
>Be John Miller
>Have college degree (from being teacher)
>1941
>USA goes to war
>Join up, automatic 2nd Lt. rank because of degree
>All Lts. are guaranteed to reach rank of Cpt. within 4 years AT MOST
>Get promoted early due to massive increase in troop numbers needing more high ranking officers and competency in combat (Miller's past competency is imply many times in the film.)
This isn't inaccurate at all. IRL, Dick Winters went from the rank of Lt. to Major in 2 years.
>>29332365
The Higgins boat, the landing craft used in the film, was used for several reasons. First, it's forward opening door was necessary for beaches that didn't have gradually sloping beaches. Normandy beaches had very steep drop offs, so putting your ramp in the rear or side could mean you were exiting into water several feet deeper than that at the front. Secondly, marines had amphibious landing craft with rear-facing doors, but the could carry only a fraction the amount of troops a Higgins boat could. Also, the boats used in the movie were not the ones the rangers really used on D-Day; they used the British up-armored version with its own MG and partial head cover. But the studio couldn't get any of these boast for filming, so they were forced to use regular Higgins boats.
Pic is of real craft used by the rangers on D-Day.
>>29326265
bad b8 real people arnt this stupid
>>29326162
It's the film equivalent of Call Of Duty, you shouldn't even be watching it if you are older than fifteen or so.
Pic tangentially related: according to Hollywood a sub-machine gun will punch right through.
![rdlol[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/vM3YACC.gif "rdlol[1].gif")
>>29335221
>me being 14
>seeing that in the theater back in '98
>knowing that the tiger has like 3 inches of panzerglass
>knowing that the .45's would not penetrate
>read what I just wrote and then think of .45 Fuddlore and muh stopping powah
>thinking that some fudds saw this and actually think that it will work
MFW
>>29335481
>implying everybody, including people that don't know anything about tanks, will know about panzerglass
>not noticing there was no glass in the viewing slit on the "Tiger"
>not knowing the "Tiger" was a T-34 that was mocked up
>thinking people will notice or give a shit even if they do
Have a hot pocket, autist, you're not you when you're hungry.
>>29326162
>/K/ is even more autistic and faggy than I ever imagined, despite coming here sporadically for two years
>can't even enjoy a movie
>think other people, let alone historically inept normies, will notice or care
I was wrong to ever expect anything less
>>29334248
>implying a rainy socialist island could of defated nazi Germany
>>29336008
Britain didn't go full welfare nanny state until after WWII. Britain of WWII was not the faggy Britain of today.
>>29335868
>implying everybody, including people that don't know anything about tanks
Most people don't know a lot of things, that doesn't make the film any less goofy.
>not knowing the "Tiger" was a T-34 that was mocked up
Autist detected.
If you can't understand that you can have a realistic (or at least non-retarded) portrayal without using actual hardware, your minder needs to supervise your internet use more stringently.
>thinking people will notice or give a shit even if they do
I said the opposite of that: that the target audience, through being children and idiots, is exactly the sort that wouldn't give a shit.
>>29336190
I only know that about the Tiger being a T-34 because of /k/ and later looking it up did prove it.
I still think you're looking way too deeply into a movie.
>>29328158
Tora Tora Tora, kind of. It was a joint US/Japanese film.
>>29328049
>would the rangers really take somebody like him and give him rank?
Rangers of WWII =/= Tacticool Rangers of 'Nam and Today
>>29326312
At least cutlery isn't illegal in our country nigger.
>>29326265
The only thing that was stupidity and promoted as bravery was the entire landing operation.
'Hmm, I know! Let's have thousands of our troops die doing a cool beach assault and we'll make GREAT propaganda out of it. I'll also get a great promotion and be hailed as a hero for slaughtering my men.
>>29326414
fuck off faggot, he can say the truth you fucking bootlicker.
>>29328158
glad someone can see clearly
>>29332086
I agree
>>29336722
Yeah the Normandy landings were totally just for propaganda, they totally could have just driven there without crossing any body of water.
>>29330960
This scene was based on the real life example of the Sullivan brothers, all five of which were killed on the same ship earlier in the War. The Chief of Staff wrote a personal letter to the mother of the Sullivans, and due to that event the Military initiated a rule that the sole surviving heir of a family was exempt from the draft or service, hence why they were fetching out Ryan.
>all these people bitching over muh contributions
I'm an American and desu I'm more interested in Vietnam
>uncoventional, gruesome war.
>fought guerillas that were actually competent and technologically just slightly less advanced than the us thanks to soviet assistance
>50,000 dead in 5 years as opposed to 1000 dead in 9 (enduring freedom Afghanistan)
>mysterious, almost alien jungle setting
It's certainly no russia in ww2 or france in ww1 but honestly this was the last real war we fought in. Where as afghanistan and Iraq are more akin to beating a crippled retard with a baseball bat
>>29334111
Riot gear. It's just supposed to be impact protective/resistant.
>>29336776
Why didnt they push up from Italy? Or attack with Russia?
>>29337015
>>29336776
Why a head on attack at a already well-known and fortified position?
>>29336814
>Sullivan brothers
I wonder what caused that to surface. It could have easily been forgotten.
>>29328270
Band of Brothers is ridiculously good and generally my answer for a favourite WW2 movie, even if it isn't a movie.
>>29337015
>Why didn't they just freeze themselves to death in the alps?
>Why didn't they go a long, vulnerable route that could get their shit fucked up by submarines so that the Germans could face them all on a single front where their supply lines would be total shit?
>Why wouldn't they open a long, stupid-ass supply line up into fucking Leningrad?
>Why did they land somewhere that was close to Paris so that they could quickly liberate one of Germany's most important holdings?
>>29337015
>Russia
farther distance to cover,also the ruskies are already doing a good job there
>Italy
Because you have to pass the Alps to get to Germany,Italy tried that during WW1 and was stuck in a stalemate for 3 years
>>29337114
I just don't like how sanitized it is.
I mean only one of the guys is supposed to be a quaker.
>>29334190
>>29334074
Season 2 Episode 11 of The Strain
>>>29336190
>I only know that about the Tiger being a T-34 because of /k/ and later looking it up did prove it.
Are you fuckibg kidding that's common knowledge.
>>29334557
>could carry only a fraction the amount
I'd just like to point out that any number is a fraction. If a boat could carry 20 guys, and another boat could carry 19, that's a fraction. Same goes for 20, and 21.
>>29336008
>could of
Dumbass
>>29336646
but... but... rangers lead the way!
>>29336843
>beating a crippled retard with a baseball bat
While walking through a minefield. IEDs were the most common cause of casualties, so actual combat posed little risk, but you could die at any time by merely driving down the street.
>>29334248
fuck that is an old pic
>>29337200
When someone says "fraction of the amount", it's always implied that it's a small fraction. The whole point of idioms is that they carry meaning beyond the literal, quit being autistic.
