What is an average day in the military for someone that doesn't get deployed. My friend is an aviation mechanic and hes working 12-14 hours a day sometimes. Is this normal?
>>29321058
Yes. That is an average day.
>>29321058
The overtime pay is pretty decent.
>>29321322
>Overtime pay
>In the military
Pick only one.
>>29321363
Time and a half over eight hours. Double time and a half on holidays. I loved my time in the military.
>>29321058
Who's this boner sucker?
>Tfw if I don't get my Sec+ cert ima only be sweeping.
Normally you spend most of your free time traveling to new bases to pick up new missions so you can rank up more quickly.
>>29321058
Depends on MOS and op-tempo. A normal garrison day for most is the following:
0615: Morning formation
0630-0730: PT
0730-0900: Breakfast/shower/get dressed
0900-1130: Work
1130-1300: Lunch
1300- ~1600-1700: Work
Keep in mind that this can be changed arbitrarily or based on needs of the mission.
>>29321387
If only...that would have been some sweet CQ pay.
>>29321470
The Air Force has it pretty easy, apparently.
>>29321481
Hush, I'm a recruiter.
>...my recruiter said to me - be all that you can be...
>>29321508
That's the Army.
>>29321470
>~6h work
>1.5h lunch
Fucking hell
>>29321581
You ought to be embarrassed.
>>29321608
I also did 12/7 shifts while deployed, and many "eat while working, stay till 2000" days, so it balances out.
>>29321629
Fuck you, that's my response. Sometimes we just didn't have shit to do, we more than made up for it.
>>29321629
Why? Outside of field training it's a 9-5 job with the occasional staff duty or CQ thrown in.
I play a fuckton of xbox
>>29321608
Yep. Plenty of time during lunch to get a nap or some gaming in.
>>29321470
Armyfag here, unless we're out training in the field:
>0700-1000 - workout
>1000-1100 - work/lecture
>1100-1145 - lunch
>1100-1600 - work/lecture
>1600-1645 - dinner
>1645-1800 - work/lecture
But usually we're out training combat technique, or at the range, or marching.
I would be eating that booty like groceries.
Unlike the rest of these pogue fucks in the Army, I was Airborne Infantry.
Wake up when it's still dark, PT, shower, eat, hit area J for combat training, MRE for lunch, hot chow for dinner, end the day when it's dark.
Dark to Dark living. 365-30.
>>29321805
Which Army? Because that's not US.
>>29321851
Norwegian, really depends on what battalion and squadron you're in. Everything after 16:00 is basically overtime, but a lot of guys just dismiss it. Most of the money comes from being out in the field for weeks.
>>29321058
Security forcesfag here,
We have "12 hour shifts" which take 14 hours of actual time, because we arm up, wait around for a while, and then have guardmount, then drive out to our various posts or patrols. THEN it is 12 hours, then changeover, then drive back and turn in. It usually adds up to 14+ hours.
When I was doing PRP shit, as SET/CAT, then convoys, 16 hours was the norm, 20+ was not unheard of, as regardless of the rules about crew rest, you were usually there "until the job is done"
>>29321322
no.
>>29321058
Go to ship. Change into coveralls. Eat breakfast. Have quarters at 0800. Sweep a p-way. Finish all work before lunch. Have lunch. Sit around in workshop until maybe 1500. Sweep same p-way from before. Go home.
>>29321875
no wonder Norway doesn't want to fight, their army is hourly.
>>29321508
We do depending on the mission of the base. Currently at pope and have exercises involving airborne all the time. Apparently the army hasn't figured out that airbored is completely useless and nobody drops fucking soldiers in a battlefield anymore unlesss you wanna see over a hundred troops die at once.
>>29321925
Be a flight chief. All I do is fuck around and make troops fill out trackers for my trackers I made last week to keep track of the trackers. 8-10ish hour shifts with lunch if we don't have a mission.
>>29322188
Gee, that's an odd statement since their have been five-six static line combat jumps since the onset of operations. One of them was a mass tac even. However, not everyone is like me. I prefer to know what I'm talking about prior to stating my opinion.
Pic related: I got my shit
>>29322243
>Only SF combat drop into Iraq was onto a secured airfield to get the combat drop on record
>>29322243
>p
He is probably referring to large scale conventional warfare where even if you got the paratroopers planes there unscathed local low level aa and ifvs would tear the fuck out of the poor paratroopers as they tried to land
>>29322243
5-6 static line jump events. Congrats. Because when a real war breaks out im sure the russians, chinese, and mud monkeys will wait for you to hit the ground before they blast you and your buddies out of the sky. #redpilltheshrill
>>29322188
Air Force Airborne qual'd here.
I think I speak for everyone when I say, go fuck yourself you filthy leg.
>>29322293
Well the thing is you don't deploy airborne troops tactically senpai, they're deployed with respect to theatre operations so you don't fucking drop them where the badguys are. You drop them NEAR the badguys.
>>29322268
>>29322293
>>29322325
These people seem to disagree... so not speaking for everyone?
>>29322223
I was a flight chief until they moved me to S4
I would rather be on flight than back office ;-;
i was mids, and mids was great ;-;
>>29322188
>>29322243
>>29322223
A little redundant dont you think?
>>29322401
Lol, I can only imagine how a hundred years from now when everyone is fighting with heat seaking laser guns with a range of the atmosphere the army will still drop troops cuz muhheritage
>>29322450
Rapid insertion is fucking stupid, amirite?
>>29322475
Im not saying its completely useless but at this day and age to put our assets out there like that is kind of silly considering whats at risk. (Aircraft, troops) bad intel of the surrounding dropzone will literally get everyone killed.
>>29322450
>He hasn't read Starship Troopers
laughingrangers.jpg
>>29322498
You're going to transport helos halfway around the world then spend the time to unload, equip, arm and fuel them then coordinate airlifts of eight troopers at a time?
That's your answer? How about thousands of troopers with boots on the ground anywhere in the world in 18 hours?
>>29322540
>Airborne deployments against any force with IADS
>>29321058
Retired Coastie here. Underway was 16 hour workdays- 4 hours of watchstanding, 8 hour workday, another 4 hour watch. Sunday was no work, just watchstanding. If we were short on qualified watchstanders, it went to 6 on 6 off. Every 12 days we'd pull into Kodiak or Adak for 36 hours to refuel/resupply. Everybody usually managed to get 12 hours of sleep then.
Inport routine was regular workday- on at 8 AM, off at 430 PM. We stood 1 in 4 duty, every 4 days you'd stand 2 inport watches in addition to the regular workday stuff.
When I was at shore units, I stood EOW or barracks MAA, depending on which unit I was at.
My last unit was the most grueling- regular workday, then every 12 days I stood movie watch. I had to run the on-base movie theater. I seen some footage, man.
>>29322540
Boots on the ground with no supply lines or reinforcements. Great idea.
I've heard AF JTACs are like some kind of blue-green abomination. That sounds kind of neat to me.
>>29322540
>How about thousands of troopers with boots on the ground anywhere in the world in 18 hours?
How does one design a logistic system to feed, and equip thousands of troopers in 18 hours? Do the troopers have combined arms support? How does the armor get there? Where is its fuel coming from? If they don't have combined arms support, what's the point of sending thousands of men to die halfway across the world?
>>29322574
We carried everything with us for a 72 hour fight. By that time you pogue fucks would be showing up to support us.
Are you people seriously this fucking stupid?
11b
>combat deployment 10 weeks away
>unit spent 8 months preparing
>leave trts in 5 week
>do pt 0600-0730
>eat breakfast shower
>sit around or do little cleaning or layouts from 0900-11:30
>eat and chill
>sit around from 1300-till released
>get released anywhere from 1330-1600
>go home change play Xbox run errands
>if Friday go shooting, spend weekend kayaking, hang with squad bros
>do laundry, clean car, clean house, clean gear if needed
>go to USO
>pt Monday 0600
>>29322595
Not to mention that the only force the US has capable of such rapid deployment are USMC MEUs, Airborne deployment is traditionally part of Army/Air Force major campaigns that have weeks or months of build-up.
>>29322616
Rangers are supposed to be able to be anywhere in the world in 18 hours
>>29322595
We have readiness levels. If you are on defensive readiness force one (DRF1) then you bet your ass you are ready to go at the drop of a hat. If you are on DRF5, you're taking it easy. DRF9 pushes out DRF1. DRF2 is standing by.
>>29322625
Same with the 82nd Airborne.
>>29322625
Rangers are one small part of the Army under USASOC, not big army Airborne. And 90% of their job is seizing and guarding facilities for black side SOF to operate out of.
>>29322582
CCT, TACP, SOWT, SERE work a lot with other branches and end up being a abomination to the big blue air force.
>>29321058
Yep. Former aviation electronics tech in the Marines, 12-18 hour days happen on the reg, especially with commands that have alot of aircraft or training pilots.
>>29322662
What is the general opinion of Battlefield Airmen in the Air Force?
>>29321322
There isn't overtime pay in the military autismo.
>>29322673
I have so little contact with big blue air force. But when I do they tell me they think of us as long haired, barbecuing jocks who workout a lot.
Basically not Air Force is how they think of us.
>>29322687
What are you? I'm trying to get into shape and go TACP
>>29322704
I'm a SERE Specialist. Good times man - just got back from a huge training shindig with TACP bros. Good guys. We wrecked some shit.
>>29321470
What the fuck kiddie camp daycare bullshit is that?
>>29322673
I had a coworker who did combat control in Iraq. His girlfriend left him because of his night terrors. He died drinking alone in his apartment one night.
>>29322650
The 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment of the 82nd Airborne Division conducted a combat jump into Afghanistan to secure the area where Ranger from the 75th would later drop I an execute.
Let's not get narrow minded or brain washed about airborne forces.
>>29322712
>specialist
In other words, you clean and refill dirty water and get coffee. Either that or you're just a fuck head liar.
>>29322758
hahaha
You clearly don't know what a SERE Specialist is in the USAF.
>>29322724
>night terrors
What a fucking pussy
>>29321508
<be air force
<be maintainer
<weeks and weeks of 12-14 hr shifts
<actual work
<can't wait to deploy or kill myself
<only have to work 12s in the sandbox
hey nonner, you should blow a shotgun
>>29322771
2edgy4me
>>29322774
What's with this nonner thing? Is it similar to the "grunts and POGs" bants?
>>29322758
I think you're confusing Army rank with a AFSC in the USAF.
>>29322763
If it's air force then it's pogue remf shit - as always.
>>29322771
>What a fucking pussy
>>29322781
>I called for fire
>now I'm calling for mommy
Yeah - a fucking pussy.
>>29322792
Hey man - lots of posters flooding in. I'm the SERE guy who originally posted.
We work a lot with Army and the Marine corps. SERE guys can be rear echelon guys or up front and doing shit guys. Just depends on what you go for. It's a odd career field in the USAF and very much unlike SERE instructors in the Navy and Army.
>>29321058
Hospital corpsman here, work 12 hour shifts. Don't PT. I'm basically a civilian here.
>>29322791
Roger. I'm mistaken. Excuse me.
>>29322815
Roger that. Thanks for clearing it up. (no sarcasm)
>>29321058
>12-14 hours a day
sheeeeeeit
>go Army
>go band
>get station of choice, pick a TRADOC post
>work 6 hours a day
>sham so hard all the SPCs in other MOS' don't even know how
>>29321840
thats pretty standard once you're salaried in the civilian world fyi
>>29322845
No problem brother, we go to Army jump as well early in our careers and then freefall later on. Currently waiting on a freefall slot.
You AD? Or did you get out?
>>29322877
Do AF Spec Ops guys use SCARs?
>>29322877
I'd buy a beer for anyone who went through the 507th. I am a veteran, not currently serving.
>>29322800
You probably don't remember 9/11 or the incredible wave of bravery and patriotism people had back then (because you're underage). He joined because he thought that was the right thing to do, and he suffered for it because he was a really caring and sensitive guy, and he felt remorse for the people who ended up dying because of his actions. He went way beyond his limitations in service of his country. That's a hero in my opinion.
0645 - morning formation
0715 - fodwalk
0730 - 1100 work
1100 - 1200 pt
1200 - 1300 chow
1300 - ~1600 work
>>29322919
I served eight years prior to 9/11 then joined back up after 9/11. I doubt you have similar fortitude.
>>29322919
Toxo or gunshot? If you don't mind me asking, that is
>>29321426
What? Really? That sounds kinda cool actually.
>>29322877
Do SERE/CCT/TACP/SOWT guys station at AF bases or Army bases?
>>29322901
CCT yes, TACP whatever the Army unit is using
PJ, mostly M4 variants
SERE, whatever the unit we're attached to is using.
>>29322916
Hell yeah brother
>>29322981
Both. Right now I'm at a AF base but it depends on what you're specifically doing.
>>29322981
Since the air force is an off-shoot of the army, they are typically abutted to each other. Bragg wouldn't be very effective if Pope wasn't there.
>>29323000
That's pretty neat. Ever get stationed in Europa?
Also, is moving between AF SOF possible? Could a TACP guy go to CCT?
>>29322959
It wasn't something that his family wanted others to know.
>>29323012
Not in Europe no.
And yes, I know several guys who have gone from TACP to CCT, or SERE to CCT, or from CCT to PJ. Etc etc.
>>29321322
>tfw I'm about to go to work on a Sunday
>mfw I read this
Haha
>>29323015
k my apologies
>>29323032
That's too bad, I've heard Europe is where it's at.
Good food, beer, and puss
>>29323015
His brain was damaged prior to his military service. If it wasn't that then some other catalyst would have caused his self infliction.
I called him a pussy because I've endured ten times whatever he did and I'm mentally straight as an arrow. It was a passing comment. We're on 4chan so don't take it too hard.
>>29323032
Thanks for answering my questions m9, I'm very motivated to go through with this now
>>29323149
What other services fail to tell you, the army will outright state - if you want promotions, join the largest service in America. It will take you about three years to reach the same level some air force, marine and navy men have during retirement.
>>29323246
I don't intend to stay AF forever. I'll either dip out and stick to civilian life, or commission into Army
>>29322722
The "normal" schedule of the Army, which I literally state in that post can be arbitrarily or by necessity altered, calm your tits, fuckboi.
>>29323800
You ought to preempt that with pogue fuck MOSes.
>>29323835
>Army and Marines both average at least 3:1 of Support to Combat arms
