What's your opinion of the German Sd.Kfz 250/251 halftracks of WW2?
>>29307082
probably the best troop transport of the war because of its off road abilities and its small arms resistance which allowed troops to fight while mounted
>>29307082
wheels and tracks is kinda dumb
>>29307666
why satan trips
>>29307082
I think I could build 20 jeeps with the same resources.
>>29307723
From what I've read on them today, they really seemed to have a lot of trouble building enough of them for their original intended purpose (transporting panzergrenadiers). I'm trying to find a comparison of how much more expensive they were compared to an Opel Blitz right now.
>>29307082
the czechs kept building them after ww2 so they can't have been so bad
>>29307654
>probably the best troop transport of the war because of its off road abilities
Except U.S. halftracks had more powerful and reliable engines, simpler and more reliable suspension, a powered front axel and they didn't shed their tracks (and a PTO winch on some models).
>>29307666
In an all track vehicle, a significant amount of weight and interior volume is taken up by the transmission, since you need to be able to supply different amounts of power to the tracks across a whole range of speeds forwards and backwards in order to steer the thing.
In a half track, you can get the same low ground pressure of a track for going innamud, while greatly simplifying construction by just using wheels to steer.
Should honestly make a comeback imotbhfam (in my opinion to be honest family).
you will never drive a tracked model-t roadster. why even live?
>>29308157
One day!
>>29307082
Looks bigger on the outside...inside is crampt as hell, then again most APC's have tiny interiors and are clown cars.
>>29307082
pretty much the nazi technical
>>29308157
wow, im in love.
>>29308952
look up what that words means, retard
Drove one for a couple of years in bf42. Shit compared to the jeep desu
>>29307666
fuck off Lucifer
>>29307082
They were so good that they never managed to produce enough of them for their intended purpose.
>>29307082
>Swedes try to copy it.
>Ditched the tracks.
Look at this thing.
>>29309170
it looks depressed
>>29307872
m2m3: less speed, less range, the powered front axel just made it less maneuverable. as far as shedding tacks, neither did the 250/251.
>>29309333
oh and the 250/251 could actually stand up to a burst of machinegun fire at 100m. while the m2/m3 would just breakdown.
>>29309222
>im never going to war
although...
>>29309406
Belgian Mercenaries in the Congo bought a few tho.
>>29308106
If the stryker were half tracked they would actually be good vehicles desu
>>29307082
they look awesome
they are very versatile
>>29309474
Swedish UN troops used them effectivly in the congo
not half track but boy its a qt
rhe russians had a go at it as well
>>29309170
>>29310484
>how do you want your rover's center of gravity?
>just roll my shit over senpai
>>29307082
Grossly overcomplex.
You had steering brakes for the tracks, service brakes for the vehicle, and the front "steering" wheels were all but ineffective in soft conditions (explaining the separate track steering brakes).
The interleaved roadwheels makes maintenance or repair on all but the outermost wheels a chore, it uses a close pitch track that is heavy and maintenance intensive, and the thing has a preselective transmission.
Lastly, from first-hand experience-
The driver's position was designed by a masochist, who likely moonlighted as a chiropractor.
For an example of a mechanically sound half-track, you need to look at the U.S examples. Much simpler, powered front axle, rubber-band track.
The sole redeeming feature of the '250 was the armor geometry, and that made the thing slow to manufacture.
>>29310663
>The driver's position was designed by a masochist, who likely moonlighted as a chiropractor.
hehe
>>29310663
M8, you're critiquing the 250/251 from a perspective of a drunk truck driver who carries large loads of fresh dildos from a factory. I think OP meant the best halftrack in terms of tactics? any battle applications? Shit, I don't know.
>>29307082
>its off road abilities
US halftracks had better off road mobility, as the front wheels on German halftracks were not powered and US haltracks were. The german had better armor sloping though.
>>29309333
>>29309358
Ahh, I wasn't aware that you didn't know jack shit.
Carry on, then.
>>29309568
>if the stryker were half tracked
>>29310484
>>29307723
It is true, but protecting and transporting panzergrenadiers was the whole point. Jeeps have no protection.
>>29310622
Tbh the body of Land rovers was all Aluminium, 2 people can physically drag the chassis sideways so with all that un-sprung weight it might be stable
God bless the tea sipping crazies behind this monstrosity
>>29313494
Long live the Queen
>>29307654
What is the Kangaroo?
>>29313408
>panzergrenadiers
Just say infantry, wehraboo faggot.
>>29314340
>Just say infantry, wehraboo faggot.
don't tell me what to do.
>>29314340
There was a difference though, right? At least on the organisational level.
>>29313369
The things that coulda been
>>29307666
>not require the complex steering mechanisms of fully tracked vehicles, relying instead on their front wheels to direct the vehicle, augmented in some cases by track braking controlled by the steering wheel.
>>29314425
Panzergrenadier division was mechanized infantry.
>>29314613
What's the advantage of having a bunch of big tires rather than tracks?
>>29310480
comfy
>>29316833
People that are used to 40+ year old track designs compare them to modern wheeled designs.
Then they decide that wheels are "superior", when all they've been doing is driving along roads dodging IED's for a decade.
