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What are /k/'s thoughts on UMP?
Meme trash
Dunno. Personally I think the mp5 is prettier
>>29302279
The CZ EVO3A1 is better and probably cheaper. The only thing the UMP has going for it is the option for .45 ACP chambering and that doesn't really matter to anybody outside of the American market. And the American market prefers AR anyway.
I played around with a USC years ago when they were still new. Its light, but to a fault. Its kind of unpleasant to use compared to a Thompson clone Ive fired, because it doesn't have any weight to compensate for the .45 kick. Cant comment on the F/A version though.
>>29302279
Shoots too slowly for my tastes. But basically an updated Thompson.
>>29302408
ah so any blowback .45 is an updated thompson. good to know
Overpowered in MW2.
>>29302408
>updated Thompson
wut
I like it, its got moxy.
>>29302279
>asking /k/
Nobody here has even shot a semiauto clone let alone an actual UMP
>>29302279
Outdated just like every other sub machine gun due to the existence of the SBR.
It's a nice, light, compact SMG.
It may actually be succeeded by the gun that it was built to replace--see HK's MP5 "midlife upgrades".
>>29302598
Dont remind me
as someone who actually owns one. they are pretty cool my favorite gun I own desu. downside is parts and mags cost an arm and a leg. only complaint is the factory sights are super low to the rail so you have to squish your face to see down them. but I have an optic now so who cares.
>>29302358
This.
Can comment on the auto version, I've shot one every I have gone to Vegas.
Yeah it's light and has a slow fire rate. I would prefer an mp5 over this (assuming I had to choose between them)
The one I shot had a two round burst feature, kinda neat but the slow fire rate really makes it pointless.
>>29304146
>airshit
kill yourself
>>29304180
>airshit
ayyyy lmao
>>29302279
I like it. Shot a full auto one on at a range before just to try it. Recoil kept pushing me back so I had to do it in bursts because I dunno how to full retard.
>>29304196
The bullets in the mag looked really fake in your first picture. Like the shitty imitation bullets they put in windowed airsoft mags to make it look like they aren't airshit.
What's the deal with the barrel/suppressor between pictures?
>>29304209
before and after my form 1 got approved it looks retarded with the 16 inch barrel compared to the 8in
>>29302279
Ask a guy who used a UMP in .40 one time anything.
>SPOILER: it was underwhelming. SBR betterer.
>>29304146
a) Did u build or buy or convert
b) How much run now
c) I want one plz give
>>29302279
Very controllable and comfortable
The AR-style bolt release is nice for lefties, but the HK slap is still more fun
>>29303024
Have shot an actual ump45
Very controllable, pleasure to shoot. Sights are nice and recoil is a very balanced rearward motion.
>>29304284
Where did you shoot UMP45? all i have seen or heard is mostly 9 and 40 variants.
It's made by HK.
HK is overpriced. The UMP is overpriced.
I'd rather have an MPX or Scorpion.
>>29302598
From all overpowered shit in MW2
Like the
FAMAS
AK with Surpressor
L86 LSW with thermal and grip
M203 attachment
M203 with Danger Close
M203 with one man army
RPG 7 with danger close
Commando
COOMMMAANNDDOOOOO
Pistol with tactical knife and Commando
G18 Akimbo
M93R on long range
M93R Akimbo
M93R akimbo with final stand
SPAS 12
M1887 Akimbo
and not to forget: the Harrier
, the UMP45 was clearly overpowered and could beat any other weapon at any time at any range
>>29304269
I bought it
it was converted by HDPS
they run around 4k I got mine with a shitload of extras for $5000
sure it's yours
>>29302279
Should've just made a .45 MP5 instead.
>>29305020
Is 10mm good enough?
>>29305702
>immeasurable amounts of want
I've shot one a couple different times, love how it looks hate how it shoots, burst was much better then auto. I'd rather have a mp5, p90, evo any day of the week
>>29302279
I like the UMP because it reminds me of umpires.
When you shoot bad guys with it you can yell "YERRRRRRR OUTTA THERE!"
>>29302279
They come in 10mm.
>>29302279
Over rated german trash.
Only exists because of gamers.
>>29304209
boy you are fucking stupid!
>>29307146
This. I plan on getting the 9mm carbine version when it comes out next year. I'm pretty sure a 10mm version is just a rumor at this point.
>>29304307
honestly most of the starter/early weapons were the best in the game if you werent retarded. man those were tje days, so much anger
Is it even practical any more?
Pdws weigh less
Are smaller
Have more stopping power
>>29303073
This.
Unless you have a micro compact machine pistol that suit and tie bodyguards can conceal with their jackets without printing too much, then SBR's make all piatol calibers sub machine guns absolete.
Or smg's need to use pointed rifle like bullets in svaled down rigle cases instead of round or flat nosed pistol rounds.
So basically the FN-P90
>>29302279
I like it but it seems kind of big for an SMG in a world where an SBR of a similar size will outperform it.
>>29304247
That SMG is fooking huge looking compared to a full sized war shotgun.
>>29302279
Apparently it's shit, dozens of PD's are dropping it.
>>29302279
it looks cool but I hear it's bad because it manages recoil poorly. I'd still buy a civilian variant of it just because it's cool, though. The best gun is just the one you like, it's not like anyone here is some professional warfighter or some shit (and if you are, your boss is gonna issue you a gun anyway)
>>29308531
>Unless you have a micro compact machine pistol that suit and tie bodyguards can conceal with their jackets without printing too much,
Why is this a concern? People guarding stuff are specifically there to provide a deterrent through armed presence. Concealing a weapon just means you're another dude in a suit, and people will be just as free to start shit as if you weren't even there.
This is why lots of military people in Canada don't like the thought of dropping the MP5 in favor of C8 Carbines -- the MP5 makes you look more "special forces" than the M4 knockoff, and makes guarding stuff easier because people don't fuck around with you in the first place. Having your arms concealed entirely just means people are gonna fuck with you or your charges even more.
>>29308531
Why do you think this?
SMGs toss more grains at not that bad of an energy and a much lower pressure. Why would you need an SBR in a situation where you know the engagement distance is low?
>>29302279
>asking people about a gun they have never even fired
>>29303073
>Outdated just like every other sub machine gun due to the existence of the SBR.
So a Ruger 10/22 with a chopped barrel is better than a submachine gun?
Okay.
>>29308568
This is not entirely true, concealment is good simply because you're not a target initially, basically if shit goes down you have the element if surprise.
>>29308568
>makes guarding stuff easier because people don't fuck around with you
You again, not one of your theories has any basis in reality. And you're suggesting an MP5 serves as a deterrent more than a rifle? Idiotic.
>>29308594
5.56mm, even in short barrels will blow through cover that would be stopped by pistol rounds...so you with an uzi thinking you have nice cover behind that crate?
Bang bang bang
I just shot right through the crate and your body juat slumps over.
If I was armed with an Uzi just like you, that crate could have absorbed some of that 9mm.
Also, if your wearing armor, just shooting .223 through a short barrel will go through your plate carrier, where my plate carrier will absorb and stop your 9mm
>>29308645
They are all black scary guns.
Mp5's are not super menacing if anything, thanks to the anti guns, cops guarding a checkpoint with Ar-15's makes most normie no guns sheeple shit themselves.
>>29308792
>cover
>crates
>.223 through plate carrier
Are you literally a 14 year old playing call of duty?
SMGs are for close quarters low recoil oper8ing not videogames.
>>29305702
good enough for Rainbow Six to use in their missions.
>>29308816
I tell you what, you bring your pistol caliber smg and I'll bring my MK-18 and we'll set up accross a warehouse and see who comes out on top?
>>29308816
This is lie the fourth thread tonight where somebody brings up age and videogames instead of having an intelligent counter point. I thought night time /k/ was better...whatever friendo, there is a reason why SMG sales have dramatically dropped since the mid 1990's.
Hell, even the Canadians are starting to drop SMG's as carbine service rifles, are just as compact fir close quarters, can defeat armor and blow through barriers/cover if need be.
>>29308816
Also I missed the call of duty fad during the early 2000's because I was deployed.
>>29308858
>>29308879
>>29308884
Fuck off with your bullshit.
The reason that SMG sales are down is because SMGs have always been extremely niche items, an SBR has more versitility and uses the same ammunition as assault rifles.
Doesn't change the fact that pistol rounds are lethal at close range and that SMGs operate at a lower pressure and burn all their powder.
Also I wasn't just insinulating your age you tard, I was calling out the idea that you think a .223 will penetrate a plate carrier holy fuck.
J/k 0/10 not falling for your 3x samefagging troll posts.
>>29308879
>>29308816
Really, west europeans and british police forces are the only ones who keep it up with SMG's to a large degree.
Once again most large and advanced militaries from the rank and file to special forces and American swat police forces have dropped SMG's for serious use except for maybe sub compact PDW's and even those are kind of rare and mainly in the hands of vip security and special snowflake agents in the field.
>>29308917
Look it up. On you tube. Or better yet, just buy some plates and find out yourself.
>>29308917
Well, somebody is "mad"...I may dare say "triggered"
You must be a no guns, new fag or under 18 because just last year they tried to ban green tip ammo claiming it was armor piercing, but multiple youtube gun channels femonstrated that even hunting .223 remington could go through armor.
Thus exposing the ban of greentip having no grounds to stand on as rifle bullets will defeat armor regardless.
>>29308978
0/10
Certain types of ammo can penetrate steel plates, not ceramic ones.
>>29308540
>full sized war shotgun
Are you fucking twelve?
>>29308568
Fuck off and shut up and die.
A guns a gun, no one is going to think 'maybe I should fuck with this guy, it is only a C8, thank God he hasn't got a scary C8'.
>>29308816
There's a reason they don't issue SMG's in component militaries anymore. Even vehicle crews get carbines.
meh.
>>29309045
>plate carriers are always ceramic
>I think SMG's are superior in ANY situation compared to an SBR
>>29308540
>full sized war shotgun
What kind of /tg/ shit are you up talking about?
>>29309401
...dude?
>>29309401
...what's your damage?
>>29309407
weed...
>>29309414
Hey, are you oookaaay?
...you look pretty low, pretty handsome awkward
>>29309412
2d8
>>29302333
>poorfags
>>29302279
its the modern Thompson,
It fills a role that it's ideal for depending on the shooter's preference.
The premium .45 smg offering.
>>29309551
I thought that was the Vector?
>>29305702
Looks great
>>29309551
it would be a modern thompson if anything considering the thompson was huge, heavy, high rof and expensive, which the M3 and UMP were designed not to be
We MK18 thread nao?
>>29308266
>Have more stopping power
False.
Read some reports on what happened when SWAT teams brought PDWs into their arsenal. Short Version: They went straight back to pistol-caliber SMGs because against unarmored targets at close range they work better.
>>29308540
War shotgun?
Fuck off.
@ the engineering department:
>Well, the MP5 is cumbersome and expensive to make. Stampings and welding? Who even does that anymore? Let's design something more practical to sell.
@ the marketing department:
>Alright! Good idea. We'll say it's space age & modern. The next evolution.
@ the sales department:
>Although the gun costs 50% of the MP5 to actually manufacture, we'll just put the price point 10% below the MP5. Muh margin.
And that is the story of the UMP. The overpriced SMG nobody wanted or cared about.
>>29302279
modern day thompson.
too bad they are expensive as fuck
>>29304301
Gun store that did class three rentals
>>29304307
>>29303717
>G18 akimbo
>SPAS 12 with grip
>1887 akimbo
>ACR
>UMP with suppressor
I used to use all of these... was I a fagoot?
>>29311186
Pistol caliber performing better than Rifle caliber.
>What is the Mk262.
>>29302358
I liked it.
A rental USC was the first gun I ever shot.
It didn't kick as much as I thought but I was shooting slow.>>29302408
>>29302279
Shot one in select fire, can't remember if it was 45 or 9mm; super fun. I enjoyed it.
>>29302279
>why does it use .45 APC?
Because it needs more UMPf
>>29311327
>mp5
>expensive to make
lol
it's stamped steel its not very advanced
>>29311531
so did everyone else. Had more fun with base runs and supressed pistols than anything though. Another combo would be the M200 and PP. After MW2 i like maybe 3 guns in black ops then the supposed improved balance just made everything bland, much like everything else about the games
