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AK General /akg/
Milled Edition

Old thread >>29273080
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Milled is life
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>>29297233
where the fuck did u find a sar3?
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>>29298239
Local pawn shop traded me for my PSA freedom AR kit gun
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Today, I will remind them.

I am thinking of switching to one of those mustard colored Soviet Ak slings, my current one sucks.
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>>29298274
are u that finnish /k/ommando
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>>29298289
nope, also not a Valmet or Sako if that's what you're thinking.
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>>29298274
golani?
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what's the best kinda 7.62x39 to feed my fun?
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>>29299055
just do whatever man
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>>29299055
Golden Tiger
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How do you faggots feel about the sam7fs
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>>29299131
Hate that stock so much
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Milled is heavy. Heavy is reliable.
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>>29298415
yes
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>>29299176
Why do you hate the stock?

I haven't held one, but to me it looks more comfortable than most of the metal folders we see on the AK. Is it just that it looks more like a Galil stock, or...?
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>>29299226
b-boris?
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Why is /akg/ so /comfy/? Is it the lack of cancer?
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>>29298196
who are you and what do you do that you get access to all these rare firearms?
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>>29299726
other generals are circlejerks about who can put the most money into their rifles. /akg/ is all about rare stuff and craftsmanship.
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>>29297899
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>>29299055
I like Yugo M67.
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got some "new" bakelite mags today,no sign of wear that i noticed
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>>29300020
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>>29300025
no i have enough mags to do this
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Just got a Saiga in 223, can you guys recommend some magazines?
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I've currently been enjoying my SLR105. While 5.45 is a cool round, the only cost effective option for buying ammo is in bulk online.

If I were to jump ship, would you recommend going to 7.62 or 5.56? 5.56 would be nice as I could consolidate rifle calibers.

I had a WASR before and 7.62 wasn't too shabby itself, I just much prefer the 5.45/5.56 aesthetic
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>>29298160
One of those waffen werks milled ak74's they made before going out of business
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From a dead Russian soldier in Syria.
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>>29299660
It just feels odd for me to use and the stock block/extension thing bugs the crap outta me.

>>29299821
a nobody, idk just like neat things and spend too much time searching the net.

>>29299951
I had no idea that existed

>>29300025
nice stamps

>>29300029
<3 AK


>>29300044
always jelly of the original 74y
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>>29300181
Izhmash keeps you on your toes. Every time you think you've seen it all..
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>>29300216
that guy on instagram has some neat shit
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>>29300236
who is that guy anyway?
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>>29300247
I buy shit from him off the files. Real nice guy.
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>>29300141
There were infantry casualties? Wasn't it just an air bombing campaign?
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>>29300080
Hey check your email bro, I sent you a message last night.
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>>29300385
Russia had troops on the ground
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>>29300141
does anyone else get really angry/sad seeing stuff like this? This picture and the one of the dead guy in Africa with the MP7. Just seems.. morbid and anger inducing that someone died and people strip them of their gear. Additionally, now all that gear and that gun is probably the trophy of some kebab
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>>29301335
I know how you feel
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>>29300236
I'm having heart palpitations checking out this guy's insta right now

No one man should have all those mags
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>>29301335
I feel like if I were in that situation I would take his gear too.
But then again being the sentimental fuck that I am, I'd also give him a proper burial and leave dog tags/personal effects on top of the grave marker.
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>>29299226
I've been considering selling my SAM7 since I bought a SLR.
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>>29300044
>East German sbr
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>>29301414
>I'd also give him a proper burial and leave dog tags/personal effects on top of the grave marker.
Or you could put him in a body bag, makeshift or otherwise, and send his body to his nation's embassy, assuming we're talking about a conventional force. If it were insurgents, I'd just leave them where they fall.
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Balken, gunna build an ak74 next.
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Anyone have any experience with Polish milsurp mags? Good to go or what?
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>>29301522
Poles make good stuff. Bad decisions sometimes, but good stuff.
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>>29301522
G2g not as nice as the new ones in wrappers I bought off the files but functional and aesthetically pleasing.
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>>29301522
Some of the best
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>>29301535
>>29301562
>>29301569

Cool thanks.
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Anybody know were to get decent 74 mags at the moment ?
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>>29301301
my bad. my fiance was getting induced today so I'm up at the hospital currently
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>>29301700
Copes has some Polish polymer and steel for $30 per. That's about as good as you're going to do for now.
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>>29301762
It's all good man.
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>>29298274
Jon is that you
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>>29300385
There was some pretty heavy fighting when Russia went to recover its downed SU-24 pilot. Maybe it's from there.
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>>29301842
Literally who
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>>29302878
Fun fact - This was the first appearance of Kalashnikov rifles in movies
>Maкcим Пepeпeлицa is the film
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>>29302902
Maksim Perepelitsa. I have a song from that movie performed by the red army choir on my phone.

Side note, this shit is getting real old
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>>29303054
Why does that keep happening?
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>>29298160

>milled edition

"no"

>>29300045

circle 10's or german weigers if they fit your gun
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>>29303183
that's quite short sling you have
my old sling went up to magwell when policed
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>>29303183
Except "yes", newtrip.
>Protip - All AKs are always welcome, editions are just a suggestion and way to start.
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>>29303382
have some more gore
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hey guys going to an auction tomorrow and they have a WASR. How easy is it for someone who has never field stripped an AK before to field strip an AK having only watched videos? I would hate to get the thing apart and not be able to get it back together.
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>>29303436
Common mistakes people make field stripping an AK for the first time after being shown how but having no first hand experience:
>make sure when putting the top cover back on that the front lip of the top cover is in its little groove in the rear sight base before pushing down
>make sure the bolt is all the forward before putting the BCG back in the receiver
>when you put the BCG back in the receiver, you have to start from the back. There are cutouts in the receiver rails where the bolt carrier and bolt slip in. But it won't just fall in, the hammer pushes it up, so you'll have to push down to get the BCG into the slots, then forward
>when putting the top cover back on, make sure to keep applying forward pressure to keep the front of the top cover in its slot, then push straight down, while continuing to apply forward pressure
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>>29303365

the sling is tightened so it doesnt flop around, note the buckle. its plenty long enough if you loosen it up :^)

>>29303382

>post x edition
>respond with something that isnt what was requested and type "no"

itsamemeyoudip.jpg

>>29303436

if youve taken rifles apart before and watched someone take an AK apart before, you should be fine. When I first bought my AR's and AK I was able to take them apart without having to rewatch anything.
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>>29303382
>>29303393
Nothing some mineral spirits and a little elbow grease can't fix. She'll be back in the hands of a Somali pirate in no time.
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>>29303493
i know, let me rephrase my previous brain fart
"my old sling tightened, had it's buckle at magwell"
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>>29303521
>as if it needs any
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>>29303554

>kak kak kak

Comic book gun sounds are the best.
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>>29303493
Where'd you get that sling? And what is it's country of origin?
I've been on the lookout for a sling with a blacked out metal components.
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I'm probably opening a big fucking can of worms here, but what are the advantages of a milled receiver vs. a stamped receiver?
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>>29303656

It all depends on your POU

for sustained fire to suppress multiple active shooters, as a sheepdog, to allow civillians to escape, a milled would serve you better. But for long neighboorhod patrols or recruiting station guarding duty, the lighter stamped receiver would be better.
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>>29303715

Shut up anon.
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>>29303715
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>>29303546

nice, I wouldn't mind if it were a bit longer tbqh

>>29303608

came with the rifle (arsenal)
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>>29303715
terrorist = milled
counter terrorist = stamped
>we Counter Strike now
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>>29303759
>came with the rifle
Well shit.
I found it though.
Thanks tripfriend.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-340.html
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>>29303785

Wouldn't it be the opposite?
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>>29303608

I believe this is the exact sling I have

https://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-340.html

>>29303546

and I think this is the sling you had, or at least similar length

https://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-340R.html
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>>29303715
Fuck off nutn.
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>>29303842
>https://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-340R.html
yeah but like made in soviet era, it was heavily used
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>>29303715
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>>29303805
"picture of american police having iraq LARP in U.S. suburbs, with quote from obama: weapons of war do not belong in to our streets"
so, i guess they are the alleged good guys patrolling
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>>29303909

they say its unissued tho ¯\(°_o)/¯
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>>29300029
>Those black finn mags
Gib plz
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Anyone ever make a windowed magazine? I want to but I'm not sure of the best way to cut it.
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Silly question: has anyone ever made an AK stock with a German/HK style sling loop in the side?
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>>29303656
>what are the advantages of a milled receiver vs. a stamped receiver?

For an end-user? None. I mean, the milled receiver is marginally stronger, but in a way that's not going to matter to 100% of the people in threads like this one. The only thing YOU'RE gonna notice is that it's heavier for no advantage as long as it's well-made.

For a manufacturer? There's a lot more that could go wrong trying to turn sheet metal into a decent AK vs milling out a receiver.

Literally no military force on the planet fucks with milled receivers unless they're irregulars with OG AK-47s. The only reason they're a thing is the USSR couldn't get their shit together enough to manufacture consistent stamped AKs right out of the gate. If your manufacturing infrastructure is shit-tier you're gonna be able to make a milled gun better than a stamped one. It's why the C39v2 is a better gun than the RAS-47 (though they're both still shit-tier) for example.

Back in the day, when you had a 95% chance of your AK being a piece of shit if you lived in the US, the milled guns were a better gamble than the stamped.

And that's how fuddlore is born.
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>>29304206

I have.

>take AK sling swivel off bottom of stock
>drill 2 holes in side of stock
>screw sling swivel into side of stock

It's an AK, you're supposed to do things like this
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Is there a step above Arsenal other than Krebs and RD?
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>>29301425
Pls sell me your sam7 if it is the sf version
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The one thing I always hear about Arsenal is that their finish is shit. Is that true or is it just sour grapes poorfag shitposting?
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>>29304711
It dissolves in room temperature water and you can flake it off with your fingernail.

Or at least that's the impression I had from the internet before I ever owned one. It's a decently good paint-over-park AK finish, which is pretty much what you get with an AK direct from Kazanlak or Izhmash. It's a step above a Wasr where you just have a park job, but two steps below a glock where you can store it in your fishtank and still not worry about rust.
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>>29304711
I own an 09 SGL-31 and an SLR107FR, both of their finishes are pretty trash. I really don't mind because it's an ak, not a safe queen
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pls r8

Fired it with the DTK-2 break for the first time today. Really effective. I had a slant brake before.
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>>29304252
>Literally no military force on the planet fucks with milled receivers
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>>29298160
someone linked me a website that was solely AK's a while ago.
anyone know what im talking about?
it was a beautiful site but i forgot to save it.
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>>29305541

You're still a disgusting Eurocuck.
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>>29305599

Christian Sternsdorf fucked up his opsec.

FB under the same name, IG christiansternsdorf
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Is it effect?
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>>29304252
The fuq?
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>>29305541
Nice SVT, and cute sister.
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>>29304252
>What is Bulgaria
They still make and use milled receivers on most of their military contract rifles. Ever wonder why you occasionally see brand new milled AK's with black polymer furniture in Africa and the middle east? Thank Bulgaria.
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>>29305541
I gave you a follow, brah
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>>29305756
Yeah I'd always assumed it was the same thing as seeing African contractors in Iraq armed with WASRs. Commercially-targeted guns ending up in a military situation due to cost/logistics fuckups.

>>29305687

Can't argue with that, I stand corrected.

Milled receivers are still shit, though. I stand by that.
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>>29305961
I wouldn't say they are shit.

Smoother action, recoil impulse, more rigid, more durable. The milled guns last longer and machine gun rental ranges, however it's the trunnions that go first, typically.

There are downsides of course. Drop down stock, weight (7-8oz), balance.

I have a milled Chinese gun that is an absolute joy to shoot. Feels "correct" in a way that can't easily be described. I had a milled Bulgarian that I sold..
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>>29300141
>dead sodier
that's some SF shit

>>29301335
i don't really feel a thing but a bit of sadness knowing that this guy died to insurgent that will leave his body to rot somewhere
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>>29298160
anyone know of a good suppressor for an AK?
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>>29306157
Huntertown Arms is supposed to be alright. They've got a lifetime warranty and even if you abuse the fuck out of your can, the part that's controlled is next to impossible to destroy, so you just pay to fix your stupidity and you won't have to deal with another $200 stamp.
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>>29301335
I bet it feels shitty to die by the hands of some kebab in the middle of fuck all nowhere miles away from your home

but hey it's war, might be the drunk talking but i think it's just proper that gun still keeps on trucking, even if at the hands of some filthy insurgent
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>>29306245
At least they didn't get taken alive

Rare shit

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=547852224
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>>29306644
Sheepdog
Every
Fucking
Time
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Recently getting into AKs and i've noticed a lot of videos feature ak reload where the support hand goes under the mag and charges the bolt without flipping tilting the rifle over to expose the charging handle and going over the rifle.
Is the overhand reload a bad method or is it purely preference?
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>>29306840
Just some mall ninja shit, I like to use my other mag to kick an old one out and reload
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>>29306734
Ikr

I need to go down and shoot with you sometime
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DDI vs. Definitive Arms vs. Arsenal for a first time AK buyer. I'm looking for an AK of the 7.62 variety, I have read good things about all three brands, but I would like to buy the cheapest of the three that has comparable levels of quality.

Meaning if the DDI is as well built as the definitive arms, I would prefer to save the money for mags and ammo.

Any opinions?
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>>29307028

>tfw muzzle brake finally got here

How much of a difference is there between a slant brake and a ak74 style brake on a 7.62x39 wasr?
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>>29307063

Buy a WASR
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>>29307066
Slant brake was designed for full auto fire, countering the rifle's natural up/right rise. Remove it unless going for a retro look.
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>>29307078
Wut.jpg
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>>29307063
Go DDI, can't go wrong with them.
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>>29307112
Do you have any experience with them? And should I go milled or stamped?
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>>29307130

Milled
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>>29307130
I've handled one before, good fit that rivaled my old SAR 1, and awesome finish.
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>>29307137
Sorry for the newfag questions; but is it simply because the milled is slightly more solid, or will it appreciably last longer than a stamped gun?
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>>29307028
It should be the other way around, you would overload the ATF with all the 5320.20's.

Email me at my new address though [email protected] the old one is kill
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>>29307159
>heavier
>not appreciably stronger

Fuck milled receivers
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>>29307608
Yes save all the SA93, polytechs, classics etc for me
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>>29306157
Remember to know your thread size/pitch. It differs from manufacturer to manufacture. Zastavas like mine are a 14-1 Left Hand thread whereas a WASR might have a 14-1 Right Hand.
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Almost mine!
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im an AR guy but im coming around. my heart still yearns for an slr107fr
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>>29299055
Depends. How much money are you willing to spend and what quality do you want?
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>>29307066
I'd say the 74 style is better since it's what the Russians use on the ak103. But I have no first hand experience

>>29307596
Haha, I only have 3 approved NFA items so far. (Am planning on filing at least ten more before July though)
I'll shoot you an email
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>>29306840
preference and what works best for you. I like doing it the way you described because it just feels better to me. Just work with it until you find what feels best.
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>>29301410
Are you talking about who has these mags? As well as the clear and orange tint clear 74 mags?
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>>29306734
Good gun ;^)
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>>29307867
Yes. The skinhead
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>>29307941
European?
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>>29307941
Moar

Any idea if 5.45 will feed from .556 ask mags?
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>>29307867
I have finally been pissed off enough to attempt to make my own fucking special snowflake AK-74 magazines.
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>>29307943
Lol yeah where the fuck does this guy get all his shit from? Half the shit he posts is not documented anywhere, It would be nice if he loaned them out for photos so that it could be documented or something.

>>29307961
Nope American, my FFL (Well not mine) got it as well as an AMD-65 (both post samples) they sold the AMP to someone else I believe and kept the AMD for himself. Really wish I got the chance to shoot the AMP.
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>>29307982
Not sure, never loaded or shot it my self.
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>>29308002
Wouldn't even have thought such a thing existed in the US.

It's kind of bizarre to me that the most comprehensive Russian AK mag collection in the US evidently belongs to a neonazi. All I can say is that he must have made a friend in Russia who works at Izhmash or is a big shot collector in Russia.
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>>29307982
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 5.45x39's overall length longer than a 5.56x45?

Because of the length of the projectile in 5.45, not merely case length.
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>>29308061
It's about the same overall length.
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>>29308061
Nevermind, M193 is a hair longer than 7N6.

But the taper of the magazine will make it fucky.
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>>29308002
Probably friends with some Ukrainians.
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>>29308075
You won't get a full mag without a modded follower. probably mid 20's.
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>>29308001
Do ettt


>>29308002
Not keeping the rarer one. Pretty neat though

>>29308168
Hmm, I wanted to get a couple of the .556 rpk mags


Just bought some shorties and more saiga take-off side rails. Makes me laugh that the only things I've bought from Krebs is original parts
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>>29308212
Well, he planned to shoot the AMD and have it just to shoot and shit, the AMP costed more and he sold it to another dealer.

Also have those ripped 5.45/5.56 mags ever been made in 30 rounders? Ive scene them in 45rds and 10rds but never 30rd mags I think a 30rd ribbed would look neat.
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>>29308384
You're right I've never seen them in 30s either, guess they have enough 30rd mags from Izh and Tula
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>>29308212
>>29308058
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256976
Should i buy this 109 handguard? Has the 3 slots you guys sperg about.
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>>29308530
These are cheaper if you don't care about the heatshield

http://www.theakforum.net/forums/35-want-sell-ak-parts-accessories/188538-wts-izhmash-ak-9-handguards.html

But yes you should get one
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>>29308567
Damn, not a member on akfourm, guess Ill have to sign up.
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I find myself in need of one
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And a Tantal

Need to talk my SOT into getting one >dat burst fire ak
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And wanna build an AK9 clone in 300blackout or something
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Zastava M91 never
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Could grab one of the repo handguards from RoyalTiger and repo east German combo gas block from jmac tAda stg clone and much better then the io thing
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Guess I'm the only ak guy awake
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"Tonight on AKG"

Zastava M21
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>>29308940
>>29308949
>>29308957
Interesting the pistol grips are similar
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Always wanted a Saiga 12 just like this with the silly sight
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>>29308940
Ive had the exact same idea, only problem is im not sure if the retainer IO sells will work with the jmac GB, also need a saiga or some other gastube to fit under the handguards, also the IO handguards have no heatshield which would be nice, also would need to be sure if the akbuilder 556 barrels will work correctly and all. I was just going to use a bulgy 74 kit for the build.
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>>29305475
>dat wood

Hot. 9/10. Optic needs more wood.
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>>29305475
that brake is horrendous. bet it works well but jesus
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>>29308970
>tfw no RPK-74M
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>>29308949
No bb I'm here for you
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>>29305475
>that much HDR
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>>29307159
Some commercial shooting range owner from Las Vegas noted that milled receivers last longer than stamped. But they do also break in the end. You can find the article online somewhere.

Milled guns are heavier. Spontaneously, I'd say they weight about the same as Chinese stamped AK's who use thicker steel.
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>>29309019
I'm working on getting into building guns (built 2 ARs, next is an FAL, then hopefully AKs). I've seen RPK-74 barrel assembly's online before, for like $500... could get a VEPR 5.45 and swap the barrel.

The RPK-74 is one of the sexiest guns ever made
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>>29308949
Of coursh.
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As a faggot that has never owned or handled/fired a real-life AK before, I find myself wondering...
Are they really as inaccurate, yet reliable as everyone makes it out to be?
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>>29309064
No and no. Just like ARs aren't jamomatic tack drivers. ARs from what I understand have more inherent accuracy due to the design but the difference is minimal. IMO, the biggest difference comes in the precision of the sights themselves; the leaf sight on an AK kinda sucks a lot while the aperture sight on an M16 is pretty great
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>>29309076
I have seen pictures of the iron sights, as well as used them in vidya games, and I will admit that the M16's is superior by far. I knew already that the M4/AR was more accurate by design, but I see a lot of people, and media, bashing the AK for just being inaccurate in general. At the same time, I see it being represented as the workhorse of all workhorses, being dragged through mud and still firing/cycling, even through a fucking twinkie and a ham sandwich.
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>>29308984
I just looked at how they mount and bet it would work with a little fitting at most, you could make a heatshield. Do it so I don't start another project haha


>>29309019
Right!

>>29309030
Yay I'm not alone


Early vityaz
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Mid vityaz
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>>29307106

It's by century this guy tells everyone to buy one though they are not bad rifles
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>>29309121
>>29309134
Would you care to enlighten me what the actual fuck that is supposed to be?
Looks like the AK-74 raped the MP5 and that was the result.
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Latest with full top rail
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>>29309151
It's a vityaz sn little 9mm AK they look pretty sex
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>>29307596
Where's your rear sight?
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>>29309166
So basically a lower mag cap, weirder looking Bizon?
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>>29306157
do some research on baffle strikes with AK's.

Make sure your threads are concentric.
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>>29309182
Haha, yes or more normal looking.

I have a couple pictures Of the beginning of the vityaz, when it was still a bizon with a mag adaptor
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>>29309210
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How are the bulgy circle 10s?
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>>29309216
Good
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Bizons had very little parts interchangeably with a standard Ak by the end, only the FCG components, pistol grip, grip reinforcement plate, rear trunnion. Everything else was bizon specific or slightly modded ak100 parts.

Here you can see the different trigger guard that's flaired to ease mag changes


>I should really write an article about bizon parts evolution
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>>29309210
gibe da picshurs b0ss
>>29309239
I'd read the fuck outta that. Also write one on AK's in general, I need to feed my brain more useless gun facts so I don't seem like a total newb on these threads.
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What do you guys think of the SLR-106cr? I want a 5.56 AK for ammo compatibility but I also don't want just a regular FSB/gas block set up since I have an SLR-104fr and would rather they look completely distinct no matter the furniture I have on them.
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>>29309211
>>29309251

On my computer at home.

I only know about a few specific ak subjects, mostly Zastava stuff, bizon, vityaz and learning ak100
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>>29309239
almost tempted to buy a deactivated one

to bad it cost so much
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>>29309298
Where do you live?
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I'd much rather have an AKG than an EKG.
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>>29309335
stfu
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this thing
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at some point they played around using aks74u parts and a full length receiver
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>>29309335
This shit right here is why we need Trump to build a wall. To keep the puns out.
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>>29299055
As long as you clean your weapon well afterwards, you have nothing to worry about.

Personally, I should cheap surplus ammo. I clean and oil my barrel and all the dynamic parts thoroughly after shooting. I even oil the outside to prevent rust.
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>>29298160
>5.56
I'm thinking of getting an AK in 5.56 for a HD rifle since I'm afraid of my 7.62 underfolder over penetrating. I just have a few questions I think akg can help me with. Can a 5.56 AK fire .223 like a milspec AR can? What country of origin or manufacturers should I avoid or really try to find? Hope everyone's having a good weekend
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>>29310164
I am wondering how reliable 5.56mm AKs are with different types of ammunition.

I've seen, for example, some impressive-looking tests of 5.56mm ammo with the new 62gr Nosler bonded-jacket, flat-nose softpoint. It's got an awful lot of exposed lead up front and a very wide, flat point. In a modern AR we've got the extended "M4 feed ramps" to help out with ammo like this. Do AKs in 5.56mm tolerate this kind of thing or are they strictly for hardball and maybe match-type hollowpoint bullets that have no exposed lead?
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>>29303554
anyone know where this is from?
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>>29308874
I never knew how much I needed this before now. Maybe even in something like .50 AE so the ballistics would be comparable. Finding a barrel would be impossible, and the amount of dosh spent to make all of the unicorn components needed... fuck it would be expensive but holy hell that would be a cool gun.
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Where can I get a black or plum poly fixed set? Internationally shipped, that is....
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I found this in my email, it's time to study
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Good morning /k/.
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>>29309044
Range in question was running semi-auto rifles converted to full-auto, mag dumping all day erry day until the guns broke.

Not at all reflective of real-world usage.
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>>29309064
>>29309113

Few things going on with this fuddlore:

Original M16s in Vietnam were issued with out-of-spec ammo and no cleaning kits, and soldiers were told "lol don't worry about it." It's never been able to shake this rep

AKs will tend to be very reliable simply because of the long-stroke piston design. There's a LOT of weight coming backwards with each cycle and it allows the gun to overcome a lot of shit that would shut down other guns.

HOWEVER having that much weight moving back and forth with each shot also means recoil is heavier than it probably needs to be and the gun is flexing a lot, inherently reducing accuracy.

This isn't helped by the fact that the AK has a reputation for being inaccurate. If you're shooting one and it's not grouping tight, you're more likely to simply assume it's supposed to be that way because "lol AKs are inaccurate" rather than actually sight the gun in properly and get it where it could be.

Also ARs are a more sealed system than AKs are, which makes them technically more reliable in certain conditions (the mudtest every ARfag likes to cite, for instance), but it's pretty rare that those conditions are reflective of real-world conditions, and additionally ARs tend to be harder to get back on track than an AK will be once you're dealing with failures.

Also the perceived gap in accuracy has a lot to do with ballistics. A 5.45x39 AK is going to look a lot more similar than a 7.62x39 AK when compared to a 5.56x45 AR.

TL;DR it's all fuddlore, a gun's reputation is a self-fulfilling prophecy. ARs are more reliable and AKs are more accurate than they're made out to be
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>>29309149

>It's by century

Century doesn't make WASRs. They import them and modify them to accept double-stack magazines.
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>>29311106
Don't forget that AKs tend to be found in the hands of militia or untrained conscripts more than actual soldiers. I'd probably be wildely inaccurate too if I had zero formal training.
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I have some rusty old 223 galil magazines. With a bit of filing, I managed to fit them in my saiga 223 perfectLy. looking for new magaxine springs, will AR15 springs fit? How about ak 74 springs? Best and cheapest?
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>>29307694
>WASR might have 14-1 rh

My old-style one has 14-1 Left-hand, otherwise this brake wouldn't be installed on it.
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>>29309030

>No marks
>No dimples
>shiny BCG
>No threads or brake

What am I looking at
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>>29311213

>Don't forget that AKs tend to be found in the hands of militia or untrained conscripts more than actual soldiers.

lolno

TONS of militaries issue AK-variant weapons bro.

From there the older surplus filters down to lower-tier allies, militias etc.

Like how you'll see soldiers in Central American countries with M16s that look like they went through 20 years of service in the States before filtering down to where they are now.
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Added a 74 brake, does /k/ like?

Pls respond
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Is pic related accurate?
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>>29311771

>Angled stoke
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>>29299821
>Who is Zasta
Our resident Ork. Still wanting to do an MG53 build once I get a welder and tools to do so because of that fucker.
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>>29311771
>all those typos and poorly drawn circles
was this made by some drunken slav in ms paint?
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>>29311771
For the most part, there are countries that produce newer milled ak's with those "Angled Stokes" but otherwise are the same as AKM's in most ways. It's also fairly un-wise to identify an AK by it's furniture if it's not an under-folder. The best way is either the Muzzle Break or The magazine.
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>>29311738
Let me rephrase, American soldiers were more likely to encounter the AK in the hands of militia and conscripts than an organized, well trained military.
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>>29311761
not a legit zigzag/10
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>>29311761
>Pls respond
>>29312044
>not a legit zigzag/10

Your brake a shit. Get a legit 74 style, or some other type that actually works. I can recommend the Fighter Brake. >>29311319
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>>29311346
A wasr 10.
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>>29312044
>>29312055
Bruh, I live in europe, you think this shit is easy to get here ?
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>>29311346
>>No marks
>>No dimples
>>shiny BCG
>>No threads or brake
>>29312152
>A wasr 10.

I don't think so, breh.
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>>29312180
I would hope so it's fucking made there.
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>>29312220
Then what is it? because a early WASR is the only thing it think sort of matches.
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>>29312229
Well t fucking ain't
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>>29312296
>Then what is it?

I'm asking, not telling.
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>>29312368
http://russtock.com/product?id=91
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>>29312430
If you have to maintain that its not a wasr that some one has changed the bolt out and refinished it than I'm saying its home made. Because wasr's are the only thing I know of with no dimples and some came with no threads.
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>>29312464
>http://russtock.com/product?id=91
Imports law are such that I need a permit to get this into my country .

But thanks for the link
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>>29309121
Ill try doing it later this year if I have the money, working on building my krink at the moment.

>>29309154
Is there no mag release?
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Will 74 furniture fit AKM ?
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>>29312621
Normally.
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>>29312621

It should. I bought my buddy some Bulgy AK74 furniture for christmas and it fit his WASR with no changes needed.
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Is there any significance to the length of the rail section on the side of AK-9 hand guards?
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>>29312918
Not really.. The three slot vs two slot thing was just me fucking with 922r anon
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>>29312987

I've read that some were made for shotguns and others for regular AK's. I have no idea what event you are referring to.
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>>29313004
That has nothing to do with the length of the rail sections. Some are hollowed out a little more on the insides to fit over the shotgun Saiga barrels.
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My slings from Russia came in today.
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>>29307867
holy shit my dick where can i find these
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Finally got my first AK, cant wait to shoot it.

It was used and came with a bunch of accessories that I dont want. Do you think it would be easier to sell them on armslist or ebay? Rails/grips/etc
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>>29313311
Russia
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>>29308530
>>29308586

They are $10 cheaper in his akfiles ad

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251388
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>>29313318
Pics pls
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>>29311346
>>29312220
>>29312296
>>29312430
>>29312543

Older Saigas didn't have dimples or muzzle threads.
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