"We have to rebuild our military"
Can someone elaborate on this? Isn't the US military the most powerful one around?
>>29280681
He's just saying whatever the fuck he thinks will make people like him. Only thing he actually wants to do is cut taxes for himself.
It's weak
A lot of doctrinal/political decisions have left it fully incapable of a ground war or amphibious invasion.
And theres rampant collusion/money wasting going on with certain defense contractors, need to get that fixed
>>29280726
Nice meme, the US military is the greatest force of destruction ever to grace the face of the earth.
>>29280681
Maintenance is a hell of a thing. The US Army missed out on an entire modernization cycle in the 70's because of funds being diverted from maintenance and procurement into Vietnam during the 60's and most of the 70's that had to be made up after the fact after '75.
>>29280737
the US would lose a land war in china
>>29280751
and China would lose a land war in the US, how is that relevant
>>29280747
So the US forces doesn't have the capacity to even keep its vehicles going over a longer period of time?
Make America Great Again
>>29280681
>Seriously go away Soros.
The US Military is still the biggest kid on the block BUUUUUUUT you dont stay the biggest kid on the block eating white bread and water. Every once in awhile you need a good meal, full of meat and fat and calories to help you stay big and strong.
Trump just wants to make sure we are eating well.
>>29280726
But does those issues make the US military weak?
How many other military powers possess the means for a full on ground and/or amphibious invasion??
>>29280751
>+.05 yuan deposited to your account
>>29280773
Hate Trump, love that gif.
>>29280793
If the military cannot do what the president orders them to do, due to decades of bad procurement & bad doctrinal decisions, then that is weakness.
Recently I watched some mini-docu about US Navy. The captain of battleship was interviewed.
All he was saying was:
- our great diverse crew, wombyns, multicultural and sheeit...
idk how anyone could say our military is already strong when they have a VA that fails them
part of rebuilding our military means rebuilding the VA.
>>29280705
I believe he may be implying the return of a modern Glider program.
>>29280822
What cant the US military do that the president wants them to do as of today?
>>29280768
Only if we put the Chinese Americans in internment camps just to be safe.
>>29280681
weve reduced the amount of money we mindlessly pour into our military but its k bc we still have the mightiest military to ever exist. No other country can even think about threatening us. This comment is just absolutely fucking retarded and helps set back republicans 8 years just like everythingelse trump says. Reminder supporting trump is the truest and most unforgivable degeneracy.
>>29281769
Who are you voting for then, smart guy?
decisions at the Pentagon during the Bush and Obama years has turned the army into a light expeditionary force. removing the heavy mechanized divisions for light units and Strykers.
also until recently. all the training was COIN focused. thankfully someone at the top in the army decided we need to start training to fight other armies.
Army is is still full of broke dicks, fatties, pregnancy malingerers, etc.
>>29280850
>watched documentary on US Navy
>captain of battleship was interviewed
>captain of battleship
>battleship
>>29281794
Probably a Bernie Sanders commie fuck.
>>29281802
>until recently. all the training was COIN focused. thankfully someone at the top in the army decided we need to start training to fight other armies
US forces in Gookland have been back on a real-war footing since at least 2008, FWIW
>>29280917
Wouldn't work.
Our allies are freedom chinks and a host of other asians.
Also most chinese here aren't commies BECAUSE they don't want to get camped like the Japs and also because China can't do shit about them from across the pacific.
If the Chicoms tried anything, we'd just send millions of them back to China to form some really successful Sino-American puppet democracy guarded by American and local troops and watch the chinamen tear themselves apart once they realize how shitty the commie party really is.
>>29282487
Voting Gary Johnson you nigger.
>>29282525
>guy with face tattoo
>looks like a college-aged stoner
>what I assume is his gf has shitty hair in a shitty, messy bun and those godawful pseudo-hipster glasses
>typical trump degenerates
They look more like liberals, if anything. Anyways, the Libertarian party never wins, so it's pointless to vote for them.
>>29282525
>throwing away your vote
i guess i can't talk too much, i voted for gary johnson in 2012 with hopes that every little vote the libertarians got, it might increase their viability and standing
after seeing how much they suck at staying unified as a party and an ideology, perhaps worse than the major parties, i realized it truly was a wasted vote.
trump 2016 mofucker, we'll vote for liberty candidates after we remove the illegals and shrink the ever-expanding democrat vote grab. we don't build that wall, and you might as well say goodbye to ever having a liberty candidate again
>>29282506
US forces in Gookland were gutted and most rebased in the states. They allow dependents now too.
Korea isn't the 1 to 2 years of hard drinking, hard training, like it was before 9/11.
Soldiers these days will never know what is like to be standing in a PT formation on a monday in Korea. Where everyone stinks of the alcohol they are still sweating and breathing out. Company PT motto is "sober by noon!"
No one gave a shit if you were drunk or hung over at work. So long as you were not drinking while on duty, and work still got done.
Government defense contractors need to be reigned in. Too many insider deals, ex generals become consultants for 3rd party sub contractors to avoid anti corruption regulations. Rich investors hiring Indians and vets to be the "Owner" of contracting companies to get preferred bidding status.
Bring them back as fed jobs.
>>29282817
Blame Clinton.
Before him all the work was done by federal employees or service members.
Clinton "reformed" things by slashing military federal civilian employees and getting rid of a lot of military positions.
>>29280681
Lol it would take 2 weeks for France to take on the US military
>>29280737
Ill remember that next time my unit spends 6k on a white privilege expert for our next SARC briefing
>>29280681
We have been closing down bases and cutting training programs ever since the 90's
>>29282838
>be elected by college liberals and lower class schlubs
>be hated by the GOP as a godless, communist liberal
>spend almost all of your time in office privatizing government functions and removing regulations
Carter did this too.
>>29280705
> Increasingly nervous George Soros detected
>>29280681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DS2wXSKF5k
>>29282874
It's a waste of time, but does it make you less combat ready than doing banal shit to take up your time/peeling potatoes?
>>29282580
I'm assuming you've never actually been to or seen a trump rally. It's the largest gathering of methheads, degenerates, and weirdos you'll ever see.
https://youtu.be/Mx7mYuZHAjY?t=1m40s
>>29282690
> muh wasted vote
If the republican party wants my vote, they can't be running authoritarian retards.
And I couldn't give a two fuck about illegals or walls. Seriously, if the only job you can do is landscaping or construction just pick up a fucking science book or learn a real trade faggot. I swear Trumptards are just like Hernie niggers thinking the world OWES your talentless-ass a good paying job.
>>29280681
one example : opportunities are so shit in the USAF it currently lacks 200 fighter pilots.
>>29280681
>tfw americans get cucked by their deputies and get kasich instead
>tfw americucks are living in a pseudo democracy and get cucked by the establishment
I had hope with drumpf...
>>29282890
We're not good. Despite everything you may no, we're not good. Irrelevant comparison to China. But don't worry, because if I'm president we're gonna do the thing, and it's gonna be great. Donald Trump 2016.
>>29282888
There is a long standing tradition of fucking over the US military but contractors. I see it everyday as a former contractor gone fed.
>>29280681
Obama installed his faggy new leaders that are making our military weak as fuck.
>>29282903
It does when that 6k could buy us better equipment and that time being spent on how all men are rapists and whites are the devil could be spent on the range or in MOUT village.
>>29282904
rofl, the world doesn't owe the illegals shit either. that's why we're kicking them out, dumbshit.
>hurr everyone can be a scientist
>construction isn't a real trade
>the only downside to illegal immigration is jobs
dumb fucking mexican spotted
>>29280681
Daily reminder that Trump is a Draft Dodger.
>>29280865
>4chan unironically supports Donald Trump
>believes his rhetoric when he tells them what they want to hear
>unsure of what he means so they fill in the blanks on their own
>love Donald Trump even more because they project their desires on his empty speech
Go fuck yourselves. All of you.
>>29283117
Go away bernie cuck.
>>29283117
Psssst. You have to go back.
>>29283127
>implying I like grandpa socialist
>>29283075
Hes also white and makes your wife's son upset.
>>29283129
Have fun handing Hillary a victory. That's exactly what every Trump supporter is doing.
America will never elect Donald Trump.
>>29280705
>not realizing he's putting his brand on the line and already sunk 25+million into campaign
>>29283117
>I get all my opinions from the media
lol
People like you are rapidly becoming obsolete, can't understand why, and are getting pissed.
It's actually really funny.
>>29283146
If you say so.
Btw. I just sent in $200. Match my donation? We can still win this.
>>29283148
>he's putting his brand on the line
Yeah, because caring about his brand ever stopped him from putting his name on all of his failed ventures over the decades...
>>29283075
>draft dodger
>draft number was never called
???
Which media shill did you get that from?
>>29283007
No one said a damn thing about giving illegals anything you fucking retard.
Illegals supply dirt cheap labor, and this is good because unskilled laborers SHOULD be paid dirt cheap wages. Short of removing the minimum wage, it's a good economic decision to use them, and just institute consumption/sales taxes to recoup money for public services they use.
> hurr not everyone can be a scientist
Yes, you can faggot. Just sit down and read a fucking book. It's not difficult at all. Almost everyone I met in engineering is only doing it for the money, no one actually gives a fuck about it.
> hurr construction is a real trade
It isn't. Anyone can dig a ditch or hammer a nail. If an illiterate spic can do your job, it's not a real trade.
> hurr illegals are ruining muh neighborhood
Then move to a better neighborhood.
Oh wait you can't because you probably spend all your savings on trucks and guns.
>>29280681
Well the Navy is trying to go for "optimal manning" which is Pentagon speak for "minimal manning." They want all their ships to be like LCS eventually with its comparatively small crew.
>>29283153
>i get all of my opinions from 4chan
kys
>>29283158
I just donated 200 brother! It was from my student loans, but fuck it, Bernie will cancel my debt anyways.
>>29283158
You sad stupid mother fucker
>>29283158
I can't do $200 but I can throw in $50 for Bernie
>>29283164
Was going to reply seriously until I saw this.
>Yes, you can faggot.
Mexico has an average IQ of like 87.
>>29283187
What's the collective IQ of rural America?
>>29283160
Yeah, all 4 of them out of over 100 ventures. Get out Soros lapdog.
>>29283178
>>29283158
Interesting samefagging
>>29283164
>Then move to a better neighborhood.
What the fuck?
>>29283160
>on all of his failed ventures over the decades...
You mean four of them compared to how many that did amazing?
>>29283170
You can't imagine a reality in which you have to form your own opinions, can you?
I didn't even like trump at first, but the more I looked into him, the better he seemed.
And that was by finding actual facts, btw. Not biased media slurs, which are all you can bother to look at.
>>29283164
> just move faggot! Use your daddy's credit card like I did!
> anyone can be a scientist! Just stack INT like in fallout 4!
Hopefully it includes sending all of our broken ass Humvee and Humvee series vehicles to the fucking mortar range and we spend a few days receiving and dispatching MATVs, JLTVs and new vehicles.
I hope a fucking nuke strikes the Humvee factory. FUCK OFF. STOP MAKING THOSE.
>>29283194
About 100, depending on the concentration of minorities.
>>29283212
I'm not a fan either. But he certainly does seem to be pissing off all the right people -- including the Quisling faggots running the Republican Party. And the alternative has already declared me a terrorist on live TV, and gotten applauded for it. This is not a contest.
>>29283222
Oh god yes! There is a factory a few miles from my base that still makes the unarmored canvas tops.
>>29283222
Humvees are fine for back end use and will continue to be used as such.
The up armored humvee is completely dead, being directly replaced by the JLTV.
This has been Army agenda for a while now and has absolutely nothing to do with Meme Man Donald Trump.
>There won't be a wall
>Mexico will never pay for a wall
>Trump is just more corporate elite
>He doesn't really give a shit about you
>He doesn't really care about anyone but him
>He doesn't care about the economy if it doesn't benefit him
>He's not going to deport anyone
>He's not going to stop ISIS
>He's not going bring manufacturing back
>He's not going to do anything about China's currency manipulation or dumping
>He's not going to make America great again
Enjoy your disappointment on the extremely low chance he beats Hillary.
When Hillary wins, you're all to blame.
>>29280681
Shit wears out when you use it hard.
Replace with new and better.
Ask Joe what he needs, don't force some congressional pork project on them.
Institutional rot takes more effort.
Change the command climate to one which encourages NCOs to take care of business on the lowest level, instead of becoming EO rangers.
Push Green to Gold harder.
Promote officers who can lead, not those with shiny OERs.
Oh, and while we're at it, I want a million dollars in small, unmarked bills, a non-descript, fully fueled getaway moped, and the letter M stricken from the English language.
>>29283235
This.
I didn't even start out liking Trump at all, and I still kind of don't like him.
And I don't agree with Trump on everything, but voting for him seems to be the best strategic move.
>>29283241
Anything humvees are doing for REMFs can be replaced with civilian trucks. Just because some pogs want to play warrior when they are deployed to UAE or Saudi Arabia, doesn't justify keeping a pos with proprietary hardware like the jumper cables, faggot.
>>29283187
They do have a low IQ, but YOU don't.
That's my whole point.
If spics are taking your jobs, you are literally retarded and helpless.
Failing basic reading comprehension isn't helping your case.
>>29283196
Unless you live in public housing you'll hardly ever see any mexicans or blacks. I live in a majority-minority city and I still rarely see them.
>>29283218
Nice try, but my dad died when I was 16 cocksucker, and I didn't get a small 1 million dollar loan either. Engineering jobs don't require any special intelligence, literally anyone can do it.
>>29283258
Thankfully, it's looking more and more like a contested convention, in which case Cruz will easily win because the RNC themselves would overwhelmingly prefer Cruz.
>>29283148
>implying any idea he has ever come up with has made money to begin with
he'll make the 25 mil back in a month on daddys businesses
>>29283259
Fucking this. EO and SHARP bullshit is out of control. It's so insane that I shit you not, SHARP briefings count as continuing education hours for my EMT cert.
>ITT - Germany circa 1932
>>29283286
Cruz is almost worse than Trump
>>29283271
>but voting for him seems to be the best strategic move.
Good thing you're not a general, is all I'm saying.
>>29283285
>If spics are taking your jobs, you are literally retarded and helpless.
If spics take the jobs of other Americans, that increases unemployment.
Which also increases the amount of people using government benefits.
Not only due to the increased unemployment, but due to the fact that Mexican immigrants use welfare at far higher rates than natives.
These are just some of the reasons that it is NOT a good economic idea to use them.
>>29283285
> nice try faggot I solely inherited daddies money!
> anyone can become a billionare with 1 million! They just like go buy more money!
>>29283308
Unlike Trump, he's a Harvard Law School graduate with real political experience.
He may have similar policies but he's vastly more competent and much less of a joke.
>>29283286
Nope. GOPe hates Cruz. They will pick Kasich or Romney and throw the election away!
>>29283303
>Le president/presidential candidate is Hitler maymay
You wanna know how I know you're 12? Because that's been the line in every single election for the last 20 years.
Bush was Hitler, Obama was Hitler, Romney was Hitler, McCain was Hitler.
Everyone who has ever run for president is fucking Hitler, and the only reason to fall into that hype is because you're not old enough to remember any other elections that were exactly the same way.
>>29283341
sup r/the_donald
>>29283241
Shut the fuck up right fucking now. Don't you ever speak to me or my wife's son ever again.
>>29283312
Yeah all the good Generals think like you, you narsistsitic faggot.
>>29282487
This guy was right. I do want Bernie Sanders to be president. I realize guns are cool and everyone should own a gun, but I also think the government shouldn't interfere with a woman's right to choice and faggots are entitled to equal treatment. And citizens united should be overturned. And more federal programs targeted at relieving the impoverished would be good. And more progressive taxes are demonstrably better for the economy and saying otherwise is fucking stupid.
>>29283308
>Cruz is worse than Trump
>FIFY
Cruz is a fucking false prophet, man.
Not only is he trying to destroy my country, he is also destroying my religion.
>>29283355
Sup r/politics
>>29283312
>huehuehue ppl that support trump are all idiots!
Protip: if you have to dismiss massive groups of people as idiots in order to avoid giving their opinions any merit, you're probably the idiot.
Take a lot of atheists for example.
They simply look at religious people and go "huehue ur dumb, and that means I'm smart!!", and don't even listen to their point of view.
I am an Atheist.
But I don't go around dismissing religious people as retards.
I've probably listened to more pro-religion rhetoric than anti-religion rhetoric.
And if you can't do the same, then YOU are the retard, not them.
>me trying to give people life lessons on 4chan
Not sure why I bother, you'll probably just reply with another shitpost.
>>29283375
Are you me, comrade?
>>29283294
Oh, SHARP has its uses. Gives the lying cunts career progression maps to weasel their way into a desk job at BN.
Glad you're at least getting something positive from this, though. Done combat lightsaber yet?
>>29283375
Make sure those programs aren't open to whites. Those faggots like to pretend to be poor and without privilege all the time
>>29282580
>They look more like liberals
I suppose you missed the nametag the guy was wearing that says "Clark County Republican Party"?
>>29282690
>we'll vote for liberty candidates after we remove the illegals and shrink the ever-expanding democrat vote grab.
Those who trade freedom for security deserve neither, you statist cuck.
>>29283324
Illegals taking up federal benefits is a problem inherit to the welfare state. If it's not them, it'll just be lazy blacks, or old people, or whatever. Fighting the people taking the benefits instead of the out of control benefits themselves is like trying to push a water up waterfall.
>>29283327
I inherited exactly zero dollars, and in fact ended up having to pay his funeral expenses with student loans.
And, yes, access to large sums of capital makes it ridiculously easy to make money.
Have any of you faggots ever taken an economics class?
>>29283396
>>29283410
Thank you, Stormfront.
>>29283375
THIS
The future of this nation is more important than gun rights.
If I would have to give them up to secure a better future, then I would in a second. If you wouldn't, then you are whats wrong with the nation.
>>29283439
>Illegals taking up federal benefits is a problem inherit to the welfare state. If it's not them, it'll just be lazy blacks, or old people, or whatever. Fighting the people taking the benefits instead of the out of control benefits themselves is like trying to push a water up waterfall.
And how exactly do you think you'll eliminate the welfare state when you do nothing but import millions of people who consistently vote for a bigger and bigger welfare state?
>>29283450
>>29283375
Holy Hell.
Is it true?
Is /k/ secretly leftist?
>>29283471
/k/ - Weapons
>>29282863
Nice b8 m8
>>29283443
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-ghetto_us_56dce712e4b03a405679062b
>>29281794
Libertarian.
>>29283443
> everyone who doesn't think what I want them to think is a KKK nazi
>>29283482
Guns are great.
I love them.
But I love my country more. Greater good, anon.
I'd rather Bernie and no more outrageous student debt than have guns in a Somali-like shithole.
>>29283450
Go to Europe if you want to live there so bad, cuck. Enjoy being raped by a dirty arab during his next sexual emergency.
>>29283482
No, it liberals from reddit butthurt that bernie lost every state last night.
>>29283498
So... He was quoting some BLM chick?
Rather inoffensive.
>>29283517
>no more outrageous student debt
And just where do you think that debt will go? You'll still be paying for it in taxes.
>>29283517
> Guns are great.
I love them.
But I love my country more. Greater good, anon.
I'd rather Bernie and no more outrageous student debt than have guns in a Somali-like shithole.
Okay, when will you buy your one way ticket to the EU?
>>29283516
>Let me just make a strawman argument and post an image macro, thatll teach him
>>29283536
>Go to Europe if you want to live there so bad
I want to live in America, but I want it to be a fair America.
If you wouldn't give up your guns along with me, you are part of the problem.
>>29283471
> illegals are rigging the elections
kek
even if this were true, you just start enforcing voter id laws.
the supreme court upheld that this is fine and dandy.
>>29283542
Uhh... no.
>>29283516
On 4chan? Yes actually. This whole place is a cesspit afterall.
>>29283553
Don't like guns? Leave, cuck. Willing to trade guns for a free arts degree? Then get out or eat a bullet.
>>29283498
>all of these sanders cunts
Holy shit, I'm glad I haven't been on this board for a while. This whole place has gone even further into shit. I didn't realize I was on Tumblr or Reddit
>>29283563
>most illegals voting the same way on an issue = rigging the elections
Can you please make a single post without making such obvious and childish falsehoods?
>just do voter ID laws!
That only stops generation 1 from voting.
And often times not even generation 1.
>>29283516
He was referring to Stormfront's infiltration of /pol/, you autist.
>>29283548
>EU?
I don't love the EU. I love the US.
>>29283546
Everyone will pay a fair amount of it. It will be spread to all citizens. Again. Greater good.
>>29283584
I said I love guns, but if you wouldn't be willing to give them up for a better world, then you are living in the past.
>>29280751
One of the classic blunders.
>>29283616
>Everyone will pay a fair amount of it. It will be spread to all citizens. Again. Greater good.
I don't want to pay for your ceramics degree you piece of shit.
>>29283553
Bernie shill please. Next time tell bernie to attack Hillary on her criminal record and not spend his donation money on finding illegals to plea for voter rights on CNN and attacking Trump as if he had a chance face him in the general election.
>>29283599
Total lie you just posted there, friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IlGoeDIUQ
>>29283553
No you see, when you come to OUR house you play by OUR rules.
We don't come to your country and bitch about how we wish your laws weren't so oppressive. We just don't live there because of it.
Let's say you came here, and we did get rid of guns, yay now you have the America you love but with no scary guns.
One problem, in a few decades of using the same logic that got guns banned, America will be indistinguishable from your home country and you moving over here will have been pointless.
>>29283605
le nugget le epic communism maymay did this
>>29283633
You already pay for all kinds of things for the greater good.
This will help keep the US education level competitive with the rest of the world. Don't you see how that helps us all?
>>29283633
You already pay for black people's food stamps, dude.
>>29283513
You're gonna get President Clinton, and you'll deserve it.
>>29283643
Im an american born and raised.
I just want a fair america. Why is that bad?
>>29283616
I'm not from /k/ and am a shill: the post.
Realty check. You hate America. You want to destroy it and replace it with a neo socialist fantasy so you can evade paying for a degree. If I could legally I would shoot you myself, traitor.
>>29283516
Acting like the US didn't sponsor terrorism...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism#The_Contras
>>29283168
And this is bad how exactly?
>>29283605
>If you dislike Trump you're from Tumblr or Reddit
Wanna know how I know what your home board is
>>29280681
Idk maybe he means kicking out the gays and women
It's politics man its all bullshit and lies
>>29283517
This, man. Plus, Bernie won't even touch our guns. He certainly hasn't here in VT.
He is the most based candidate we have had for president in a long, long time.
>>29283681
No Im from /k/. I'm hasguns and all.
I just am willing to look at the bigger picture.
>>29283697
Yeah because a federal senator has power over a state. You're the typical uninformed voter. Please, kill yourself. He's not a state senator. You don't know shit and that's exactly what's wrong with this country.
>>29283665
How do liberal arts and shitty social science degrees that aren't law or economics degrees helping our education be competitive?
The problem with education in our country isn't college. It starts all the way back in kindergarten. You're just an entitled prick who wants to justify your desire for something you percieve as free by claiming it's for the greater good.
How the fuck is your art history, ceramics degree, women's studies, or philosophy degree contributing to the greater good in a way that's worth paying your $50,000 tuition? Fuck off.
You want to go to school, you pay for it. Dude I'm working full time and going to school because I want to be there. I'm making sacrifices now and working my ass off for it to pay off in the long run. I'm not asking other people to do it for me.
>>29283370
>complains about someone else being narcissistic
>while saying he wants to vote for someone who's narcissistic
>>29283714
this fucking straw man
>>29283679
Where are your guns? Mr I'm from /k/ and not raiding.
>>29283697
>He is the most based candidate we have had for president in a long, long time.
kys
>>29283706
sure bernie cuck.
> fuck my rights just give me some free shit guys!
Scum
>>29283410
Post the same meme but of Jewish people in German Ghettoes in WW2.
>>29283722
bernie cuck, pls
>>29283715
>implying all politicians aren't narcissistic
>but muh free college
>>29283450
>>29283714
>I'm making sacrifices now
The fact that you are ok with this is the problem.
You shouldnt have to do that.
There are enough overly rich people in the US that you shouldnt have to.
>>29283610
> That only stops generation 1 from voting.
What makes you think they'll stay and breed without a welfare state to leech off of? That's literally the only reason they come here and not the other richer Latin American countries.
> And often times not even generation 1.
Because voter id laws were seen as iffy, but now the Supreme Court upheld it.
>>29280681
MAGA
A
G
A
Also I think it would be nice if we had our pride rebuilt. Its fucking disgraceful when every title with the word man is being taken out.
>>29283730
If I take pics, I want you to tell me how much you love bernie sanders.
>>29283750
The fact that you don't believe you should have to make sacrifices in life sure is telling...
>>29283616
>but if you wouldn't be willing to give them up for a better world, then you are living in the past.
>wanting me to give up my god given right to bear arms for a country that won't even recognize my god given right to own guns
You're fucking kidding me dude, also if you expect people in this country to be okay with paying higher taxes for anything you'll be in for a surprise, this country fucking HATES taxes
The only way the healthcare and high education systems will get fixed in this country is with government regulation making sure these institutions aren't gouging the customers, but I don't see that happening either because fuck big government
I also don't see giving up guns for the greater good, this country was founded on freedom, losing freedom isn't great or good
>>29283697
He wants to ban assault rifles ya dunce
>>29283747
It is a complete strawman and calling me a cuck does not change that
>>29283750
>There are enough overly rich people in the US that you shouldnt have to.
They aren't responsible for taking care of you you piece of shit.
>>29283776
They should be shared sacrifices.
Everyone should pay a fair share for the advancement of the nation.
>>29283779
You lose the freedom to own guns but you gain in freedom to not be burdened in this oppressive cycle of student debt.
>>29283750
Millenial scum pls go
>>29283790
They owe society. They wouldnt be rich if it werent for the workers in this system. They owe them.
>>29283792
Why are you even on /k/?
>>>/lgbt/
>>29283792
College is a choice you idiot. There are plenty of good jobs that don't require a degree. It shouldn't be everyone else's problem you fell into your guidance counselor's spiel about college.
>>29283814
What an argument
>>29283805
Why don't you go join the military if you want free college?
>>29283750
> you're such an asshole for making me want to pay my student loans! I don't even like even!
>>29283773
> so despite for a Bernie vote, willing to buy a rifle at the LGS and post it here
Whats the matter? To many "fuck you" replies at the phone bank? Post your airshit or daddy's rifles, boy. Bernie can't even beat Hillary, You think he had a chance against Trump?
>>29283713
>>29283779
As a Vermonter, I think you seriously underestimate the power Bernie has here. Literally everyone in the state legislature is a Sanderite. What he wants, he gets.
>>29283790
>They aren't responsible for taking care of you you piece of shit.
But we are responsible for paying for their tax breaks?
Why is welfare for the rich good, but welfare for the poor evil?
>>29283825
Why bother arguing with someone who comes to a weapons board preaching about how we should give up our guns for a socialist president so you can have "free" shit?
>>29283843
>you
when did I say that
Hey, why don't liberals understand that you don't have to live in the US if you want free shit? Go to Germany or some other Muslim filled Hellhole and get all your free shit there. Leave us in peace. We don't want your commie bullshit.
>>29282367
You... You do realize that battleships do have a skipper, right?
>>29283835
>so despite for a Bernie vote, willing to buy a rifle at the LGS and post it here
Its "Desperate", and I have more than one firearm.
>>29280681
guy i met who is in the army said that he hasn't trained with live rounds since 2009, he said all the 'training' you do is how to respect peoples gender and sexual identity and how to respect women
Please guys, give up the guns and they promise to give us free college and shower us with as many Muslim immigrants we could ever need! Think of all the interesting food they can sell out of carts if you just let go of the second amendment!
>>29283792
>but you gain in freedom to not be burdened in this oppressive cycle of student debt.
I already have that freedom because I chose not to go to college, you dumb commie, I tried not to resort to name calling but you're too fucking dense to realize giving up a RIGHT that EVERY citizen gets for SOME people to go to college for free
College is an investment, you chose to take those student loans to get a higher education, its just most people ending up getting a degree that doesn't return the amount of money you put it and cry that they have student loans they cant pay because instead of getting a good degree and gaining job experience by doing internships, they chose to pursue art and smoke dicks all day
>>29283835
Let's see your guns now ;^)
>>29283848
I'm just trying to realize the American Promise.
You can go to Russia or China with your fascist shit.
>>29283873
>>29283904
Oh fuck its a jihadist. Reported. Get fucked Allah faggot.
>>29283912
Russia and China have "free" college and coercive policies just like your Jewish Messiah
>>29283395
>>29283450
What the actual fuck. The only other two liberal on /k/ showed the fuck up. This is fucking cool.
>>29283410
You right nigga, that was probably the most stupid thing he's said in 40 years and it was mainly because he wanted the blacks in the south to switch allegiance. He said something without really thinking imo. And also his problem isn't with blacks its with the entire south being fucking retarded. And I'm not like a new england fuckboi saying this shit I've lived in SC for 15 years and its just undeniable that most of us are fucking stupid. Like really fucking dumb.
>>29283443
Stop mindlessly defending Bernie. He said some stupid shit and its better to just own it. Also no one with a brain gives a fuck about reddit or /pol/
>>29283792
>Everyone should pay a fair share for the advancement of the nation.
>communist faghole Bernie Shitberg
>advancement
Pick fucking one. Advance us faster to third world status I guess. Can we raise the voting age to 30 to stop these retarded college fucks from voting like jackasses every four years?
>>29283892
And you give people the FREEDOM to choose to go to college even if they cant afford it.
This makes the US a better place for all. I would give up my guns for that. and you should too.
>>29283944
Higher education is dragging the nation down? Thats a new one.
>>29283341
>implying someone sane and moderate like Kasich wouldn't be the best choice to beat Shillary or Bernie
Why people think that the key to a GOP victory requires someone bat shit insane and "eXtreme!", I'll never understand.
>>29280681
this guy is just riding on the US image
im fucken bats
>>29283553
Or we could have both cause they arent mutually exclusive issues.
>>29283950
>Higher education is dragging the nation down?
Free higher education actually does. It becomes the equivalent of high school as it's no longer the cream of the crop, it's just the same old crop, with the dumbfucks dragging everyone down to their level.
>>29283963
No, but with the candidates we have now it is.
Bernie would make the nation a lot better and a lot more fair.
But he would probably pass gun control legislations.
>>29283972
/k/ thinks college grads are morons.
>>29283951
Kasish can't even beat Trump, but I'm sure he can beat Hillary while getting his anus prolapsed during the general debates.
>>29283981
No I'm sure a liberal arts degree enhances your brain power.
>>29280681
he is a liberal
get out of here /pol/
>>29283697
VT here.
I'm guessing that you're from Burlington or Brattleboro or some other similarly NY infested shithole. You do realize that he doesn't create state laws, right? That's the job of the state government.
If you're old enough to vote, please educate yourself on the American system of government before voting.
>>29283984
You think diploma mills churn out geniuses
>>29283992
It doesnt have to be a liberal arts degree. It can be anything
>>29283992
Forgot those are the only degrees you could get
>that feeling of depression when your "peers" the dude weed lmao XD have the same voting power as you
>>29280681
He's right
We need to dramatically increase the size and strength of our navy to deal with the chinks
NATO needs to be stepped up to let the russians know we mean business
fags and women need to be purged
>>29283450
>The future of this nation is more important than gun rights.
If you abrogate the 2nd Amendment, the Bill of Rights ceases to be. Which unmakes the country at its source. Which is the idea, you fucking child.
>>29283950
Fuck it dude, there's no reasoning with you, Bernie isn't going to be in the primary anyway, and even if he did good luck getting your free college pass congress
In fact, good luck any candidate getting anything through congress these 4 years
>>29284009
How about you can't get a free bullshit like Womens history or African heritage? Or you can get a free degree with military service? Sound fair?
>>29283950
>I would give up my guns for that. and you should too.
Fuck off
>>29284018
He doesn't seem to understand and keeps spouting
>muh greater good
like he's batman or some shit
>>29284018
Is that what happened in your home state of Cali, Phil?
Why do you willingly submit to having your rights violated while proclaiming that others should never submit to having their rights violated?
>>29283842
Then why didn't we get an AWB?
You are old enough to remember three years back, when he went fucknuts in the senate in support of it, then when shumlin said that we didn't need gun control here, despite apparently obeying sander's every word, right?
>>29283981
what I actually said was two things. 1.) college students vote like fucking retards, because they're naive tools and none of them actually have a job or pay taxes. And 2.) free college for everyone actually DOES devalue it. Remember when a high school education was the equivalent of a college education today? Then they gave everyone 'free high school!' and a high school education is now basically about as good as a primary school education used to be.
Why are liberal turds incapable of learning from history?
>>29280900
a ground war or an amphibious invasion
>>29284063
This is a new world.
European nations seem to be doing fine with their higher education system.
>>29284070
no they're not you dumbass, that's why they come here for college if they can. Their 'free college' is shitty.
>>29284070
This nigger here doesn't know whats happening in Europe
>>29282922
>That blatant Clinton/Trump mancrush
You just know they've spitroasted some hot 20 something while Hillary was doing less important things.
>>29284070
>European nations seem to be doing fine
jej
How old are you?
>>29283117
The butthurt when he said he supported H1B visas was amazing.
Apparently, many a /pol/tard thought that Trump saying 'make america great again' was meaning 'make America white again' when he has was saying from the beginning that he supported legal immigration.
>>29280705
>Sanders got hammered.
>Bernie cuck comes to a pro-gun board and can't understand why he doesn't get any support when he tells other people that he'd give up his right to own guns for free shit and that they should too
>>29284139
What did his post have to do with sanders
>>29283117
Who cares. He pisses off the liberal shitbags, and they're my enemy. I don't give a fuck if he ruins the country as long as they're unhappy.
Just to show Im hasgunz.
Fuck off. Id give them all up to free this nation from the Republicans and their fascist policies.
>>29284192
He's not going to win.
>>29284196
Why do you expect a board of pro-gun people to agree with you and then get pissy when they don't? Go fist your asshole, douche bag.
>>29284196
Don't let daddy catch you with his guns, bro.
> I want to give up my rights for gibsmedats and you should too!
Dude like find out where your dad keeps his ammo and kill yourself.
i'm still waiting for that bill to ccw on base dammit
>>29284196
Get used to disappointment.
>>29284196
No one's stopping you from selling your guns to help pay for you college. Or do you really not want to do it on your own, do you really want the government to force it upon you? That sounds more like a submission fetish.
>>29284196
I'd give up all my guns for a time machine so I can go back in time to when you were a child and force feed you bleach
>>29284238
>Don't let daddy catch you with his guns, bro.
Yeah, I'd run like a bitch too if I got proven wrong.
>>29284240
I would ask to see yours, but you gave them all up to the California State Government, right Phil?
>>29283869
There aren't any battleships left in service, anon.
>>29283517
>>29283546
>>29283553
>>29284196
Red Blooded American here born and raised. Dont let these trolls get to you /k/omrade. I am a gun owner and I would gladly give it up to have my student debt forgiven and to see others get free college. We have to build a nation. Without free education equal rights, equal pay, economic freedom, and just basically making sure everyone gets a slice, WE HAVE NOTHING.
>>29284133
It's like most people don't listen to him when he's not shouting angrily.
If they did they'd find he's far more reasonable and moderate than he sounds when he's yelling.
>>29284196
>Id give them all up
Then do it now you faggot
>>29284269
Not unless I have to.
>>29284063
>giving everyone free highschool devalued highschool
kek
>>29284196
> Bernie
> Attacks Trump daily
> too much of a pussy to ever ever criticize Hillary during the debates or release attack ads
> Bernie shills wonder why he loses in the primaries
Pawn your guns and donate the money to Bernie. Don't forget to post it to r/sandersforpresident.
>>29284265
No one is stopping you from giving up your guns now.
>>29284265
Thanks man. Glad there are some level headed people here who see the big picture.
Single issue voters are the worst.
>>29284273
But it's for the greater good of society that you don't own guns.
Cars kill way more people than guns do. think about it. car crashes, carbon monoxide poisoning. i and the carbon foot print on our virgin planet. i think we should give up our cars because CARS KILL PEOPLE
>>29284284
I have given money already.
You guys act like I don't love guns. I do. But there is more to life than that, and if it takes voting for someone who will correct centuries of injustice but take my guns, he can have them.
>>29284288
I doubt most of these so called "trump supporting Gun owners" are even old enough to vote, much less own firearms. They will become wise with age hopefully
>>29284265
why not both? why do we have to lose guns to gain college? the problem with the system is that college simply costs too damn much.
>>29284265
> rusted hooker gun
Might as well give up that piece of shit. No wonder you want the tax payers to give you free shit, poorfag. Get a real job, faggot.
>>29284295
Why? I don't do anything wrong with them. Im responsible.
>>29284302
Hahahahahahahaha you think Bernie is actually going to beat Hillary.
>>29284302
Okay, look... are you a faggot or a nigger or both? Pardon my being so blunt, but *somebody* has to ask.
>>29284287
yes there is