Is there any reason I shouldn't make this my everyday carry?
>Beretta
Nyet
>>29277374
If you like it and can shoot it well, why not?
>>29277403
Well it's kind of a >gimmick gun so I wanted to make sure there's no technical issues I don't know about.
>>29277397
y
>>29277374
I had my eye on one of these as well, but like anon, I was deterred because I kept hearing of it being a >gimmick gun. Never fired one, but I haven't a ton of cons about it either.
>>29277507
I can at least say, I've yet to hear anyone online say anything bad about it(aside that the safety sticks out too much), and I put about 50 rounds through one myself with no problems at all
>>29277374
other then it being hideously fucking ugly there's nothing wrong with it whatsoever. If you like it, carry it.
>>29277374
They're extremely thick.
The frame safety especially adds a lot of thickness.
Cuz goils can't shoot it right.
>>29277374
It's fine, same size as a glock, I carry a full size .45 model.
>>29277374
If you like it, go for it.
>>29277397
I like the Makarov but a Beretta beats it any day of the week.
>>29277610
Source?
gimmick gun? It's a polymer frame Beretta, they're good. If it transformed into a fire truck when you used the takedown I'd understand what you're saying.
>>29277374
The slide mounted safety is difficult to operate in a hurry/under duress.
>>29278720
This.
>>29277507
>>29277435
Do you people even know what a fucking gimmick is? Don't ever question Beretta again, faggots.
BIDF out.
>>29277397
D I C K G R I P S
>>29277374
I don't like the trigger.
>>29277374
owned a compact 9
piece of shit gun
>crap trigger
>didnt like to lock back on the last round
>retarded rotating barrel - why beretta? for what reason?
>trigger group, recoil spring, etc cheaply built. felt like a converted airsoft gun
>worse than M&P or Glocks that are the same price or cheaper
If you really want a beretta get a 92
If you want a polymer double stack get a glock or M&P
>>29279314
>Don't ever question beretta again
Kek.
>Trying this hard
>>29279380
>>29279314
>BIDF out
>BIDF
>Beretta Internet Defense Force
He was clearly being facetious, you ignoramus.
>>29279340
I was with you until you said to get a Glock or M&P.
If you want a polymer double stack, buy a USP.
>>29277397
penis
>>29277374
i work at a range n we have one of these
>its heavy
>not super reliable
>shitty trigger
>field strips like an autistic plumbing snake
>rotating barrel
>>29279431
USP doesnt do anything better than a glock or M&P other than be unnecessarily large
It's kinda big
why don't you get the PX4 Beretta is releasing specifically for concealed carry?
>>29279465
>>its not heavy
>>its super reliable
>>okay trigger
>>field strips easily
>>implying rotating barrel is bad
>>29279465
>>29277374
>>29277374
PKEW PKEW! Cool laser gun, /k/!
>>29279340
>>29279340
I have a Compact 9 and the lockback automatically drops and chambers the first round on mag reload making it the first to fire in a tactical situation I dont know how the fuck you are selling this as a bad feature?
>>29279635
i dont know how you gathered that
>doesnt lock back on the last round
is the same as
>hurrdurr i can slam a mag and drop the slide simultaneously
>how is this bad
because thats not supposed to happen, retard
>>29277902
Sun-Ken Rock Chapter 167 according to the google search that just confirmed this
http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=SunkenRock&chapter=167&index=1
its a little bit on in this story
I would go for the subcompact, my philosophy is that smaller is better for EDC. But if you really don't mind the size, sure, the PX4 is a good gun
>>29279710
Is there an animu?
>>29278914
>confirmed for having never owned a slide decocker firearm
quit being a noguns parrot, you faggot
>>29277397
nice airsoft gun
>>29279746
not him but slide mounted safeties are retarded for carry
>>29279731
wikipedia says manga only
>>29279757
They really aren't though.
I carry one just fine. It's not different from carrying a pistol with a frame safety, so long as you don't have manlet hands that are incapable of the short reach to the slide.
>>29279757
here you go being a parrot again, why don't you lurk moar until you know how not to be a faggot when posting
>>29277374
Glock exists
It's like over two inches wide at the safeties, which are slide mounted, which disqualifies a gun from carry in my book.
>>29279771
what do you carry anon? i alternate between these
>>29277374
because polymer. because shit trigger. because shit ergonomics. because shitty non-squared trigger guard. but mostly because not 92/96 fs.
Are you proficient with it ?
Is it comfortable to carry ?
Does it print ?
Would
You
Trust
Your
Life
To
It
?
>>29279771
i see no point of having a safety on a carry gun
>>29279777
except i own a 92
>lurk moar
>moar
kys
>>29279758
Thank you simplified Google <3
Without you I'd actually have to. Read shit i dont care about for 2 minutes just to find a sentence of potential interest.
>>29279777
But slide mounted safeties are the fucking worst.
>>29279803
good choice anon, sorry i called you a faggot, i have the 96A1 and love it, i thought intentional misspellings was a part of all board culture, sorry again for being wrong
>>29279807
a bloo bloo bloo
you must be some kind of slack-jawed faggot, are you dr8c0?
>>29279792
I bet you put your fucking finger on the front of the trigger guard when you shoot you faggot.
>>29279790
This little guy, or my Makarov in the summer if clothes call for it. I'm pretty envious of your stuff, though.
>>29279803
Okay. There are people who carry safety off.
>>29279807
Nah.
>>29279832
>some carry with safety off
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so why even bother getting a gun with a safety
>>29279807
having carried a 96fs for two years now, i can tell you that they are literally the best. i could draw my gun and take the safety off at the same time well before i could ever close my finger around the trigger. it's probably the only kind of safety i would want on a carry gun. either slide mounted or none. also, decocker is nice.
>>29278914
In my experiences, you're more likely to disengage it accidently on the draw rather than failing to disengage it when intended.
Of course I own and shoot guns unlike /k/ so that criticism never gets parroted.
>>29279843
I dunno. I'm just saying it's an option.
I like Berettas and I don't mind a manual safety. Ergo, I carry the Beretta.
>>29279850
this is why i like my beretta over my kimber,
>>29279829
you bet correctly. i bet you shoot with your other hand on the magazine well, you fucking faggot.
>>29279340
It does lock back on last round.every time. Unless you're a retard and hold your thumb on the slide catch while you shoot.
>>29279867
yours does, mine didnt. my thumb wasnt on the catch. keep defending your shitty gun tho
>>29279843
I only use mine for transport or when I'm at the range.
I don't carry my 92 or PX4, though. The safeties are just holdovers from being designed for duty use.
>>29279878
Not even him, but
>one lemon = shitty gun overall
Nope.
>>29279882
>plenty of people shitting on the px4 in this thread, on other websites
>i-its just one gun guise
px4 a shit
>>29279867
I don't have mine anymore. But keep pretending you know my arsenal.
>>29277374
becuase theyre built flimsy and overly complicated for no reason
>>29279901
>>>29279867 (You)
>I don't have mine anymore. But keep pretending you know my arsenal.
Meant for>>29279878
>>29279901
>>29279913
>cant reply or green text properly
>likes the px4
>>29279894
I can find people shitting on every gun, anon. If internet wisdom were all true, no one would use the AR for being jam-tastic, but in real life it doesn't hold up.
I fired a Sig that couldn't manage to extract properly, never made it through a mag without a stoppage. Are all Sigs bad? No, that was one lemon of a gun.
The PX4s I've fired have all been extremely reliable. I shot through 800 rounds of the dirtiest shit I could find (Tulammo) without failure. It has it's ups and downs as a pistol, but it's definitely not worse than it's peers.
>>29279894
>plenty of people shitting on the px4 in this thread
literal memers
>other websites
I can make stuff up, too
>i-its just one gun guise
>guise
There are multiple lemons out there somewhere. There is for every gun. You're just buttmad because one was yours.
I get the impression people shit on the Px4 without ever touching one just because of what they heard on the internet and repeat it.
>>29279934
>its not worse than its peers
but it is
>terrible trigger
>retarded rotating barrel
>flimsy parts
>garbage aftermarket support compared to its competitors
>>29277374
>slide mounted safety
You had one job beretta, ONE fucking job.
>>29279952
>what is a duty gun
Why do you retards insist on shitting up these threads. If you're going to complain, at least have some legitimate points prepared.
>>29279951
>retarded rotating barrel
why would the rotating barrel be a negative?
>flimsy parts
same polymer as other guns
Trigger could use improvement imo, and the aftermarket is Walther-tier.
>>29279957
>muh duty gun
plenty of duty guns dont have safeties
They use it as a negative because they are Fudds and how dare Beretta make something that isn't main stream!
>>29279966
Yes, but many departments and, you guessed it, the military often have manual safeties as a requirement.
>>29279962
>rotating barrel not a negative
reinventing the wheel for no reason is "good"
doesnt even reduce recoil like they say, its just snakeoil
>flimsy parts
frame is thin, so is the guide rod
>>29279982
Well I've actually shot guns unlike you and yes, it does reduce recoil.
>>29279978
and many dont require it
the UK is using glocks as sidearms now, and some US SF allegedly. its only a matter of time until the US mil gets over its retarded safety fetish
>>29279992
>dont know how to counter this so ill just say you have nogunz lol xd
>it does reduce recoil
"no"
>needing recoil mitigation in a 4" barreled 9mm anyways
sorry about your delicate feminine limbs
>>29279982
>doesnt even reduce recoil like they say
Someone didn't take physics.
>>29279982
>reinventing the wheel for no reason is "good"
rotating barrels have been around since his greatness John Moses Browning patented them in 1897, and the Steyr 1907 was made with one.
I think it does reduce recoil- not that there's much to begin with in a large 9mm- and have noticed it's damn accurate. I can outshoot my 92, Glock and Walther with it., even if that's not a scientific test.
Nothing on my gun has broken, and I haven't treated it gently. Currently sitting at ~5000 rounds down the pipe.
>>29280008
that must be why theyre so popular
>>29280001
Literally Google "does px4 rotating barrel reduce recoil" then go look at all the countless videos of everyone saying yes it does.
>hurr durr nuh uh my opinion the only one that matters
Nice soccer mom logic anon, go take a physics class.
>also implying reducing recoil is a bad thing because "lel you have baby hands"
>implying if a hand gun came out in 9mm, .40, or .45 that had zero recoil whatsoever you wouldn't cream in your boyfriends asshole.
>>29280034
>i read it on the internet so its true
>>29280041
You're an insufferable retard. Go get shot down in the street like the degenerate you are.
>>29280024
I try not to make decisions based on what's popular, because the average consumer is retarded.
If we're going by what's popular the best handgun must be a Hi-point, because they sell tons of them.
>>29280045
>getting assblasted about your shitty gun on an outdated korean finger painting forum
top kek
>>29280058
My gun? I don't even have this gun anymore. Lmfao
>>29280065
>assblasted about a gun you dont even own
>being a cuck shill for beretta
>>29277397
benis :-DDDD
>>29279843
some guns can be carried in two ways, like the CZ 75.
>hammer cocked, safety on
>hammer down, safety off (double action pull)
>>29280079
>don't have that gun anymore
>anymore
>any
>more
>implying once you trade or sell a gun you can't make opinions about said gun anymore. You have to be literally holding it otherwise your opinions hold no weight. Bit whatever, must suck being a noguns eurocuck. Enjoy being raped and stabbed by Jamal in London.
I know words are hard anon but you have to try.
Are there legitimately people in this thread defending slide-mounted safeties?
>>29279982
They hardly reinvented the wheel. And your argument against it seems largely to be "it's different and that makes it bad".
>>29277374
If you like it, and have spent some time shooting one, there is absolutely NO reason why not.
I carry a full-size PX4 in .40 cal. Shoots great, never have any issues. Backstraps can be changed out improve fit, nice build quality, and it has a nice balanced feel.
>>29280101
>it's such a good gun that I sold it
>I'm starting to sperg out so I'm just gonna call you an yurop
>>29280418
>It's different so it's bad
No, it's overly complicated for no reason
I mean they aren't terrible options, but it's pretty big for a CC gun - and the bigger the gun the less likely you are to carry it everyday. Some people will effectively carry a big gun all the time but you have to be able to conceal it if your state doesn't allow open carry, and you have to be comfortable with carrying that much bulkiness with you, or you're more than likely to leave it home.
I'd highly reccomend a thinner and shorter handgun, but if you can get away with it, go for it. I haven't heard of any major problems with it.
>>29279843
No reason to intentionally seek it, but why be mad about a feature you can literally just refuse to use? I don't know why people are so damn obsessive about this.
>>29277374
It looks pretty and you might scratch it.
Safety lever is on the slide and has to be pointed up while the slide recoils and slams backwards mechanically that looks kind of weak if you don't maintenance it regularly and forever and try to fix it as soon as you start to see a problem with it.
>>29280473
It's literally no more complicated than the more common browning tilt barrel system. If anything, it's less complex because it has fewer moving parts in total.
>>29279746
Well their not necessarily hatlrder to disengage, but its more awkward than a flip down like on the 1911 and USP.
It's a bad design. Walther can get away with it with the P38, but companies should just stop doing it.
