What do you think of Brno's new pistol and proprietary cartridge?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_DLohiGl0Y
http://www.brno-defence.com/en/7-5-fk-field-pistol
>>29264382
that actually looks quite sexy, i would stick my dick in it. as for the cartridge i might or might not read enough to care
So its basically a more powerful Five-Seven?
>>29264382
Aside from that safety looking kind of small, it looks pretty cool. I'd love to see more tests regarding the cartridge though.
>>29264427
>>29264440
From the video says, power of a .44 magnum, recoil of a .40 and accurate out to 100-150 metres.
>>29264440
Tokarev 2: The Revengening
>>29264382
Looks sexy as fuck.
I want one.
But Ausfag so ammo will be a total cunt.
Would be awesome though. I would use it in Met Sil. Not legal for IPSC sadly due to the bore diameter being too low.
>>29264382
trump is already making anime real
High velocity pistol cartridges are pretty anime
>>29264382
looks like something a tiny-dicked teenager of italian descent who likes anime might purchase.
Looks like 7.62x25 Tok
>>29264559
the real 5.45x18mm is a weak soviet cartridge.
unlike in GitS. Where it is a AP anti cybrog/android/robot round.
>>29264382
Lack of trigger discipline during field events kills the video IMO
Looks cool
Now put it in a pistol carbine!
>>29264591
If only it was cheaper to stick tungsten in more bullets.
>>29264382
I so dearly want this to be successful
in a just world, this would be the next US military service pistol.
leading to the pistol and ammo being cheap and readily available in a decade or two.
This is the pistol I want since I got my Tokarev and CZ52.
If it is never going to be in the US then I really don't care.
>>29264382
Looks and apparently shoots smexy.
I want it.
>>29264502
>100 grain bullet
>power of a .44 magnum
yeah no
>>29264686
1800 fps muzzle velocity
>>29264712
>literally 7.62 tok ballistics.
i'm super impressed.
>>29264503
That post is so metalocalypse... amazelingtons... revengencers...
>>29264382
Slick looking hunting pistol, or wilderness defensive pistol. Does the bullet have the velocity and sectional density to stop bear or moose?
>>29264712
if yo actually take half a second to compare ballistics of both, they're not even sort of similar.
>>29264730
bullet is 12 grains heavier than a tok.
If they want to sell this pistol. They should make a tokarev barrel for it too. So there is more ammo available.
Surprise surprise its a cz clone frame fookin yay. I get the if it aint broke thinking right but come the fuck on.
>>29264778
CZ75 frame has really great ergos and low bore axis.
I welcome these retro-modern look pistols.
>>29264740
No, it's a deer pistol apparently. Watch the end of the video, they manage to wound one with it on the first shot.
>>29264382
>14+1
>46oz
That's terrible.
>>29264382
Would be really cool in a carbine
I think the video's overstating the ballistics but it still looks good anyway.
>>29264382
1200 Joules of muzzle energy ain't shit. That's more powerful than the highest ends of .357 or 10mm, and at least an into the low ends of .44
That's definitely the most power out of any 14+1 handgun I am familiar with.
>>29264382
Someone tell me where and when I can buy this.
So... Why not make this a 10mm?
>>29265127
.460 Rowland through a modified G21 is 15+1, significantly lighter, and more muzzle energy too.
>>29264382
My first thought was "thats going to be fucking LOUD"
>>29264382
>overpowered CZ-75 clone
but i already own one of those.
>>29264631
Yes but I'd like one of the pistols too.
An M1 carbine style rifle in this would be sick.
>>29264382
>It's like a futuristic 1911 shooting a crazy awesome cartridge
I just popped a boner holy shit
>>29264382
nice looking gun, but the question is will their cartridge become the next .40S&W
>>29265272
Because this beats the shit out of 10mm to be quite honest family.
>>29264922
Indeed.
>>29264382
>proprietary cartridge
No, just no.
>>29265566
what gun
>>29264382
>one shot stationary drop on fucking elk
I'll take 6
>>29265711
oh hello there boner
soooo what's the cost?
>>29264382
>CZ-75 clone
How original
>>29264382
Dropping that Elk was pretty fucking impressive; but a proprietary cartridge is never a good thing since unless it catches on you're going to be routinely screwed every time you buy ammunition.
>>29264440
closer to a 9x25 dillon really, which can send larger 95gr bullets to 2000fps for 115s to 1800. Unless they have some specific reasons for going 7.5 idk why they bothered. AP shenanigans may or perhaps its got a magic pressure curve. Gun kinda looks like ass but whatever, the variety wont kill anyone. Gun rags will be all over its dick /k/ will love and despise it, life will continue as usual
>>29265882
Couldn't find that anywhere. They keep calling it a 'race gun' so I bet it's thousands. Also the ammo would be expensive as fuck, too, I wager.
>>29264730
try 85/1500-1600 for the tok. still dont give a shit though
>>29264382
Looks like a modified CZ.
>>29264382
Since when did amerifats started to use metric?
>>29264382
>unregistered video
Reported for advertising.
>>29264382
God I fucking hate this meme of:
>really light projectile
>absurdly fast
>muh energy
This is basically a slightly faster M1 Carbine out of a 6" barrel.
>what is over penetration
As others have said, it's basically an even faster, slightly heavier 7.62mm Tokarev.
The design is slightly innovative and barely interesting. But the cartridge is less impressive than .357 SIG.
Why are you trying to hit targets at 100 yards with a pistol? This isn't the 1870s. This only leads to hyper-over-penetration from a handgun.
If it were something like a 250grn projectile doing 900-1000fps, that'd be badass because it'd be INSANELY effective at realistic combat ranges.
However, you're just basically re-introducing the RIP G2 round from a proprietary cartridge.
-1000000/10.
>>29265894
only things it has in common with a CZ is the inverted rails, grip angly, and safety
hell, the grip angle isn't even the same
And if the trigger is anything to go off of, it looks SA
>>29266000
>Brno
>American
>>29266094
>Why are you trying to hit targets at 100 yards with a pistol?
>why do you NEED an AR-15 to hunt deer
Seriously fuck off
>>29264382
Fuck your snowflake gun and ammo.
>Tiny high velocity bullet is useless at point blank range where pistols are usually used
>by high velocity, it means for a handgun, not really high velocity as far as guns go
>Calls defeating soft armor at 100m "lethal" makes no mention of cavitation.
>Holds 14 rounds, one less than an M9
>Holds 14 rounds that are 1/2 the size of a .45
>Fills a gap that doesnt exist. I use a carbine or rifle for distance, and a large caliber pistol for close.
This is dumb and wont go anywhere
>>29266212
>half the size of a .45.
Poor math notwithstanding (7.5mm×2=15mm, .45 watchemathingies = 11.5mm) it holds double the rounds of a .45, that are also much more powerful.1/2mv2, remember?
1/2mv2 < 1/4m(2v)2
>>29264382
5:11 the deer is not behind trees 5:17 the deer is behind trees, yeah it wasn't a one shot incapacitation the deer got up and ran for a while which is why they cut out of at 5:16. Its armor piercing characteristics and high energy are the most interesting element of this cartridge but for unarmored targets it has excessive penetration on the ballistic gel
>>29264712
But it hardly has the same mass, which is why it's disingenuous to say it has the same power
>>29266000
>CZ is American
Of course it's the most butthurt Europoor looking for any reason to shit on the Amerikanski that will make a statement like that. Why don't you crawl back under /int/ where you belong?
>>29266124
>>why do you NEED an AR-15 to hunt deer
That isn't what he said, you fucking sperg, his questiom is "When the fuck would you ever use a handgun at 100yds when a rifle would do it much better?"
And that's a point I agree with.
>>29265711
Source
>>29266497
>1/2mv2 < 1/4m(2v)2
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Chink confirmed.
I wanted a handgun with near rifle ballistics. So I got a Glock 40. 1800fps with light ammo is a thing. Its pretty nice.
>>29265711
isnt that the qt powerlifter girl?
>>29265894
>Sphinx 3000 in 10mm exists
>He still hates CZ clones
get the fuck out of /k/ you nogunzknowledge
>>29265846
10mm eaa witness I'm guessing
>proprietary cartridge
I think they're worth buying to collect, because nobody will be shooting or making them in a little while
>>29266497
Faster moving =/= more powerful when it comes to soft tissue. The velocity of the smaller round isnt enough to cause the cavitation needed for lethality. In a pistol you need rounds that make bigger holes such as with a larger round or with a hollow point.
>>29264382
It needs imported but probably won't.
But that won't stop me from wanting one badly.
>>29265523
But this doesn't need a compensator, ports, or extra weight on the slide.
>>29265928
Yeah, they should have chambered it in 7.62 Tok and overbuilt it, so it can use crazyhot +P+ proprietary loads AND cheap surplus ammo too.
>>29265709
by "beats" do you mean its severly limited and highly specialized at this point in time, being matched by 9x25 without the variety of projectiles and literally being based on the 10mm mag case. Its accuracy and maybe a fancy gas setup
>>29267760
based on an available case though.
>>29268738
Neither does the DE, which also mandates a tumor under the barrel. im sure they learned a lesson or two from .224 boz killing guns
>>29264503
Tokarev 2: the chromey boogaloo
>>29266696
literally whenever you need to handgun hunt, faggot
some places only allow that and it's WAY more comfortable to hunt with a handgun on long hike hunting trips
And the question of why you should be able to hit targets at 100m is fucking commie bullshit
I'll shoot at whatever distance I damn well please, asshole
>>29266959
Filename motherfucker.
Assuming these ever come stateside at a reasonable price, would you buy one?
>>29272621
as long as the ammunition is sub $1 a round and that includes hollow points, yes
![Bren-Ten-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UAnHlhE.jpg "Bren-Ten-1[1].jpg")
>>29267125
CZ clones in more powerful rounds have been pretty sexy
What other weapons has this company made?
>>29272621
why would i?
http://www.doubletapammo.net
/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=71
115gr 10mm, hot .357 sig, 9x23, hot .38 super, .40super, and 9x25 all are all in the same ballpark for bullet weight with the option of going up to 180-220gr without buying a whole new gun
Which aesthetics do you prefer.
The Brno or Beretta?
>>29276385
Beretta
>>29276385
Beretta
>>29266094
What happens when a 7.62x25 ol tok in hollow point flavor hits a fleshy target? I would like to see how hollowpoints deform at that speed in a small projectile.
>>29277659
fragment
>>29276385
Beretta.
GODDAMNIT BERETTA
Give me the fucking APX already.
>>29264559
Anime is pretty stupid tho
>>29265955
>literally all competition disciplines have a minimum caliber of 9x19 parabellum/minimum bore diameter of .355"
>race gun
"no"
