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/meg/-Military Enlistment General
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment edition
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.
>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well
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Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga
Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/6764857
Ask questions, get advice from retards on how to lie on the poly, bitch about recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor, just keep it in this general.
Use the IRC pussies
how do we use irc
>>29263825
Yes
>>29263825
download hexchat
connect to freenode irc
connect to #meg
Feel like my swimming is really improving
500m 12:00, not good but my technique is shit and the more videos I watch the quicker I am(shaved off 60 seconds in just one sesh today)
2x25 underwater passed both, within a minute of finished my 500m
Not to mention all the swimming is really helping my out of the water endurance
>>29263764
Telling my Army recruiter I've smoked weed twice is OK, right?
to that aussie fella, if you tell the immigration guys that you're a mechanic they may be able to get you a green card
>>29264242
the military is not for you
>>29264255
I've heard that if you've smoked fewer than 5 times you may as well just tell them, especially if you want to do intel.
>>29264242
Nigga you dumb. If they can't catch it in a piss test, you may as well say you've never touched the stuff.
>>29264242
might be best to give one a call in another area and ask the questions anonymously
>>29264255
>the military is not for you
fuck off faggot
>>29264280
That's a good idea man. I'll do that. I've gotten mixed signals on how smart it is, so I'll try calling before putting my name on anything,
>>29264255
Worth a try, if it fails I'll just do the old fake fag marriage since it's legal and move in that way.
will top secret security clearence look through my 4chan posts?
>>29264303
ill marry you dude, we can even be battle buddies, what MOS do you wanna go?
>>29264312
Just being on 4chan gets your post looked through. Though if it makes you feel better I got a TS/SCI w/Poly and still browse just fine.
>>29264361
Do they know what shitpostin is, or should I just clarify that now?
>>29264361
Wait, what they really look through your posts?
now im not worried about getting a TS im worried about going to fuckin jail
>>29264361
>>29264361
>>29264375
>>29264312
nope, just interrogate your friends about your faggotry....... oh wait you're shitposting nvm
>>29264376
no they won't chill the fuck out
>>29264393
will they see my nudes I've posted on /hm/?
>>29264346
Combat paramedic.
Stopping poor fucks from dying sounds ok
>>29264407
>>29264407
uhhhhh...... no. but MEPS will finger your ass, but that's different
>>29264375
>>29264376
>>29264393
Unless you post stupid ass ignorant shit like attacking a school or burning shit down your fine. And if you seriously don't think they have people watching 4chan (looking at you /b/) after all the shit that has come out of this quarantine zone your lying to yourself. IE, virginia tech, cake + pie threads, DDOS/Hacker shit, that washington murder, that recent /pol/ protest shooting crap, etc etc.
Overall you'll fill out an SF86 that is pretty much "i'm not a terrorist and don't own foreign shit", then what ever agency is available will go to your references and spider web effect out from there to make sure your credible and not a retard and/or drug dealer. Most failures are from un-justifiable debt (student loans/mortgage are fine) or gambling problems.
I'm in DEP until November
AND ON ELECTION DAY
SO I WONT KNOW WHO WON
what the fuck do I do till then
>>29264242
You have never even seen drugs in your life got it?
>>29264514
Fuck man I thought I had it bad waiting till October. I'm hoping my security clearance goes through sooner so they can try to move my date up.
>>29264514
You'll probably still find out. Even in bootcamp people still find out information.
MAGA 2016.
>>29264476
I thought it was funny filling out the SF86 online that if you click yes for "have you ever participated in any terrorist activities?" some more text boxes appear asking you for details about your terrorist activities.
>>29264560
As an aside, what could one expect from President Trump vs. President Hillary as Commander in Chief?
>>29264516
Won't the guys who go check ur shit on an SF86 figure that shit out?
Also, how many references do you need? My brother hates my guts and is kinda stupid I'm worried he'll try to fuck me over
>>29264569
>President Trump
-rebuilds up our military
-spends more money on our military like Reagan did
-doesn't approve useless shit the military doesnt want like the F-35
-only sends us to fight when its justified
Hillary 2016
-Obongo 2.0
-Muh gender politics in the military
-military cuts all over
-sends us to fight with Iran, NK, or any african country
>>29264569
Literally the exact same thing.
>>29264595
Oh shit did you already admit to it on paper? Bad choice but you should probably be fine. Yeah you'll need to fess up if you already admitted it. Also I needed a reference for every job I've had, and three or more personal references, at least one of them has to go back 7 years.
>>29264569
There won't be a difference. Hillary won't touch military.
>>29264652
Hillary=More gun control and also enabling antigunners and SJWs around the US.
With her there's no turning back. Also she said she'd make President Obama chief justice.
>>29264646
I'm not the weed twice guy, I mean I've done my fair share of shit as a kid(more than fair share really) but there's no hard proof of anything, no pictures, no arrests at all, no piss tests, no nothing like that. Just some speeding tickets and possibly some implicating texts
>>29264652
She'll cut military spending like Obongo
My job is going to be Op Intel for Airforce (1N0X1) and I know I'm going to have to make a list of bases I'd like to be stationed at, but I have no clue where they'd realistically send me.
I'd like to go overseas, Europe if it's possible, but I have a feeling it's gonna be somewhere here and somewhere real boring.
Can someone with this job, or anyone really with knowledge of AF bases give me a good list of bases to choose, with priority being ones overseas?
>>29264611
This is a bullshit post, and you should feel bad for using shitty 4chan political ideology to try to influence the thoughts of the people here
If you respond with any low brow "librul/Commie Sanders" rhetoric that is commonly seen here you will have proven my point and also lowered yourself to an even shittier standard than you were held to before.
Try to think more deeply on our worlds issues please.
>>29264713
thanks for not even trying to prove me wrong
Makes my work so much easier.
MAGA BROS
>>29263764
What is IRC server info
>>29264733
MAGA
>>29264767
is that a border for ants?
>>29264674
If there's no proof, then you've never touched drugs. Just stay clean for the time leading up to meps and you will have no problem.
Do relationships work going into the military
I've got a girlfriend and she knew I was enlisting right from the start and she has always been confident in our relationship and being able to handle herself well.
>>29265753
she's going to have needs. needs she won't be able to fulfill with you since you won't be there. she might wander elsewhere for those needs.
there's many a story of a wrecked relationship because one got deployed or was otherwise far far away
>>29265765
I told her this and she just says something like "Oh well, nothing I can do about this. I'll just have to deal with it". I admire her confidence in it but I don't think she understands the seriousness of it.
>>29265781
when's the last time you were far away for a long period of time? how long was it? there's also the matter that she doesn't know when you're coming back.
>>29265753
>Do relationships work going into the military
no
>>29265797
Never. We've never been more than a week apart at the most.
I'm not coming back and she knows this. Instead she wants to sacrifice her entire family and friends and move all the way to San Diego to be with me. I told her I'd have to hit e4 first and that's around 20 months away.
>>29264438
I was told they just LOOK. Did the recruiter lie to me? I don't want my precious anal virginity to be taken by some bored old man who won't even remember my face.
Which branch/MOS will have the best balance of fun and experience?
>>29265892
11b or 03xx during war time
>>29265839
Best thing to do pal is to move on. Tell her to take care of yourself and don't fuck her future up.
So I went from E1 to E4 in 10 months and finished Basic Leadership Course with about 17 months TIS (According to the CSM at the post I graduated at I was the lowest TIS graduate in its history) and apparently this is a huge deal. Does this shit benefit me at all?
I'm not even high speed. I just haven't fucked up yet
>>29263764
completely fuckin new guy here with a couple questions, but first: I want to enlist, I just dont know where yet. I was thinking marines but as I am trying to figure it out more ( and lurking moar on /k/) I'm leaning towards the Army because of the possibility of going ranger or SF, and because of a couple of vietnam vets on both sides of my family. But alas I am still a faggot virgin neet on a taiwanese wildlife porn research and fetishes forum. So I come to the experts with these questions:
1. How does one decide where to enlist?
2. Is the transition from civilian to military hard or overwhelming?
3. What can I bring with me (if anything) if I do enlist.
4. Can I bring my tacticool shit like knives and gloves and hats and gear shit?
5. What's some advice you can give to a FNG when looking back in hindsight on your experiences. (maybe going to a recruiting station or any other first time things.)
5. How do you get govt. issued gear and do you get to keep it and take all of it home? (gear, knives, guns, other clothes)
thank you for your time and your service !!!!!
>>29265969
BLC that early isn't a big deal. They used to send PFCs to WLC fairly often.
Dunno how you made E4 in 10 months when the minimum TIS for a promotion waiver is 18 months though.
>>29266296
Army E8 (MSG) here
>1. How does one decide where to enlist?
The Army hands out promotions like candy. I can't speak on the other branches but you have to talk to each one and see what they have for you. Make sure you come here and tell us what each recruiter told you so we can pick it apart and call them out on their bullshit, because they can and will lie to you.
>2. Is the transition from civilian to military hard or overwhelming?
Not really. Basic training is nothing like what active duty or reserves do. You'll spend most of your time cleaning or doing preventative maintenance or watching power point presentations.
>3. What can I bring with me (if anything) if I do enlist.
To basic? You'll get a packing list and you'll get to buy some things at reception. My advice, buy cough drops if they let you have them because that's the closest thing you'll get to candy there.
To your duty station? Bring whatever you think you'll need or want to have.
>4. Can I bring my tacticool shit like knives and gloves and hats and gear shit?
Sure, but you won't even be using most of that shit a lot of the times. Don't fall for the romanticized image of the armed forces. 90% of the time you're just there not really doing shit.
>5. What's some advice you can give to a FNG when looking back in hindsight on your experiences. (maybe going to a recruiting station or any other first time things.)
Volunteer for everything in basic training. Being a grey man works, but if you use basic training to overcome your fears rather than hide behind them, you'll be much better off.
>5. How do you get govt. issued gear and do you get to keep it and take all of it home? (gear, knives, guns, other clothes)
The general rule is anything that touches your skin, you get to keep. So uniforms, PCs, hats, gloves, .etc. You'll figure out what you'll get to keep and what you won't get to keep long before your first duty station.
>>29266296
1. Usually the recruiter nearest to you. This isn't rocket science.
2. "The transition" is pretty much BCT. It will suck, but it isn't really hard.
3. Your recruiter will give you a packing list for training. It's basically the clothes on your back and some hygiene supplies.
4. No. Not to your initial training.
5. Don't just go with the flow at the recruiter. Ask questions, get the job you want. It's your career, and you get a few major chances to control it.
5-2. You usually don't get to keep shit nowadays. During the wars? It happened more often.
>>29266319
>Dunno how you made E4 in 10 months when the minimum TIS for a promotion waiver is 18 months though.
If he's in the Reserves, all his commander has to do is sign off on his 4187 and he's whatever they want him to be below E5.
>>29266324
awesome, I really appreciate the responses.
I should have said I want to join the infantry if that matters when talking about daily duties etc. Also, in basic training you have the option to 'volunteer' for stuff? I thought everything in training was mandatory? Can you explain 'being a grey man'? I basically want to bring my favorite hat, my paramilitary 2, and gloves. Do you have to wear issued stuff 24/7 or can you wear your own shit sometimes? if not I won't bring it.
>>29266332
Okay, what I meant to say is how does one come to the conclusion on what branch to devote your American life to and be apart of for eternity on Earth? After initial training what do you do or where do you go? I haven't seen any recruiters at all yet, and I'm a bit nervous and don't wanna get cucked. It's like negotiating your price and rates buying a car off the lot, and I've never done that either, just research. So when I'm done with my service the most I get to go home with is my name patches?
>>29266324
>>29266332
Also, seeing as both of you have or are serving, can you speak to how hard it actually is to join Special Forces or the Rangers? Requirements you know of or a mind-state one needs to have or be in?
>>29266324
>buy cough drops if they let you have them because that's the closest thing you'll get to candy there.
For some people like me, cough drops were more like currency. Some people would cover a firewatch shift for like 10 of them.
>>29265753
They can be, its pretty common for them not to work though. My relationship with my girlfriend who is now my fiance is very good. Although a lot of my friends relationships have failed.
>>29266483
Not in bootcamp but yeah when you're not working you can wear whatever you please.
![41VHIKne4iL._UL1500_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LmlVMGb.jpg "41VHIKne4iL._UL1500_[1].jpg")
how does wearing glasses work in the Army? I have a pretty conservative pair now, and I figure I'll be wearing BCG's during Basic, but after that what kind of glasses will I be able to get away with?
>>29266817
Navy fag here so not sure if the regulation is the same but I'm fairly certain its just anything that doesn't distract from uniform, so you should be good with those.
>>29266626
>Only 10
They better have been honey lemon
>Gold bullion = Honey Lemon
>Silver pieces = Cherry
>Bronze scraps = any mint flavor
>>29266832
thanks shipm80
>>29265839
Its impossible to say whether or not you could make it work.
Some people can maintain relationships despite long periods of separation without any problems and some people require constant attention otherwise they bang the milkman.
If you're both young just break it off, tye classic recipe for disaster is someone enlisting when they're 18 and leaving their highschool girlfriend back at home.
There's various ways that goes to shit but it more or less always ends up wits her banging another dude or 7.
FELLOW VETERANS
does any of you guys feel lost after getting out? I got out of Active Duty 2.5 years ago, and I just feel so confused and hopeless. I don't know what to do, or what's the point of even going on. I do armed security work and make pretty decent money. But I don't enjoy it, I don't know what I want. I feel like a waste of space
>>29267176
Do something outside of work that you enjoy.
If your working hours don't facilitate that, quit and get a different job doing something more interesting. Alternatively go to school.
Or you can just be said and eventually blow your brains out.
I was leaning Air Force yesterday, but someone made a great argument for Army.
I have some additional questions to completely sway me, however.
1. Is retraining possible in the Army? Is there a rank cap to retraining like in the AF?
2. Will Rangers be an option for me down the road if I'm interested in that later in my career?
3. What are some good MOSs in the Army for making dough in civilian life?
>>29267448
Oh and
4. Can I do a lot of shooting in a non-infantry MOS?
>>29266817
BCGs don't exist anymore. The issue glasses are not bad.
You will be forced to wear issue glasses in basic regardless of what you bring. After that, it's whatever.
>>29267448
>2. Will Rangers be an option for me down the road if I'm interested in that later in my career?
Here's a list of the MOS's that you can apply to rangers from and other requirements
http://www.goarmy.com/ranger/joining-the-rangers.html
>>29267515
>human Intel collector
Ok I found the MOS I want
>>29267437
I just don't know what else I could do. I tried college but I was miserable there and dropped out
Guess what mother fuckers I'm graduating AIT Thursday. Going back home hoaah
Please help me out /k/
First time on this board, so I apologize for my lack of knowledge.
I'm an army reservist in california. I'm a high school senior and I leave for basic in august. I'm a 25B, IT. My unit deployed I believe last in 2008 in Iraqi Freedom. What's the likely hood we will deploy before October 2021? Looking for opinions.
In addition, it's all coming down on me at once, and I'm scared of basic and I'm scared or being deployed, mostly because I'll be away from my girlfriend. I don't know how to deal with this.
>>29267673
What are your freedoms like in Ait?
>>29267713
Depends on where your at and how your platoon sergeant runs things. Like for example we can't go off post at fort Sill but practically everywhere else they can. And because we used are phones so much this cycle our Platoom Sergeants going to take the next classes phones immediately and they will have to earn them back.
>>29267691
Here we go, son... sit down, listen up..
Basic... it sucks, you get yelled at a lot, you're wrong, even when you're right, you hardly sleep, and the kill hats will single handedly have it out for every single one of you....
But it's okay, you'll survive that.
Your chances of getting deployed are pretty low, so don't worry about that..
If you do get deployed, your girlfriend will likely cheat on you, likely with your best friend, accept this as life, and worry about yourself, because in the end, pussy from all over the world is pretty much the same, it's not worth worrying about.
Focus on yourself, and what you're doing, and how to do it, rather than your high school fuck buddy, and you'll do just fine.
>>29267691
>What's the likely hood we will deploy before October 2021?
Very likely, but don't be afraid of that or basic training.
If you're over the age of 21, I don't care if you're in the worst shape of your life, basic training is easy as fuck, it's tailored to teenagers who are just getting out of high school.
You have to do what's right for you and not what makes your girlfriend comfortable. If she's "the one" she'll understand your decision and she'll still be there when you come back.
>>29267744
>Your chances of getting deployed are pretty low, so don't worry about that..
Dunno senpai, reserve units generally deploy in cycles. There's a very good chance his unit's time in that cycle will come up in 2021. Actually I'd be shocked if that unit doesn't deploy SOMEWHERE in the next 5 years
>>29267691
You'll get through it. Worrying about things just wears you down and does nothing to help the situation. Try faking confidence, sometimes that does the trick.
Basic is something you have to just be in the moment for. It's something you have to do, and you'll come out the other side. How unfun it is depends on how fast you get with the program. Start building yourself up now.
As for when you're likely to deploy, ask people in your chain of command for a guess. And understand that the military doesn't make firm plans.
And as for being away from your girlfriend, she'll either cheat on you or she won't. Better to find that out sooner than later.
>I don't know how to deal with this.
You keep putting one foot in front of the other. You concentrate on that and everything else will sort itself out.
>>29266483
You can google the requirements for Rangers or SF, mostly you need to be a top 1% athlete and then manage to not get injured in training, give up from sleep deprivation, be the strongest person around mentally, and get really lucky.
>>29267919
>top 1% athlete
Could anyone actually in SOF comment on this?
>>29267673
Oh shit. How have you been nigger?
I remember talking to you the week before you shipped out. Explaining to you what your MOS actually does. Are you glad you chose what you did?
>>29267972
Quick google search made 13F seem like the Army's JTAC? If so that's pretty neat
>>29267995
in a matter of speaking, yes
Do you Army boys know of any MOS that I could go where it would be okay to be non deplorable for a couple years?
>>29268042
Deployable*
Do the Orchard Towers Four floors still exist?
i've been out for a while now, but i wonder if that shithole still exists.
>>29267972
He actually got really depressed from doing PT in the cold and tried to get chaptered out.
>>29268042
Why would you want to do that
>>29268123
Did he really? Or did you make it up? I haven't been on /k/ in a few months
>>29268141
It would be for a dental reason
>>29268141
not even joking.
they were holding his chaptering till nearing graduation and it looks like he pulled his finger out of his ass.
Navydepper got bumped back from Navy basic too
>>29264426
you know that Combat Paramedic is a graduate course? meaning you have to actually be a qualified Paramedic to join as one?
Not saying you Dont already know that, but just in case you haven't been in touch with a recruiter about this stuff specifically.
I called them and put medical technician, which is a General Entry position as my first job preference with the ADF last week so ill probably have my assessment day within the next 3 months.
>>29268191
>ADF assessment day
psyche eval woman is a cold bitch.
what DFR center is your assessment day at, boy?
>>29268156
what kind of dental reason?
Because they won't let you deploy unless your dental is good anyways. The military makes you see a dentist every year. And if your dental health isn't good, they won't let you deploy
>>29268179
daaaamnn
>>29267956
Not SOF but it's not really true
>>29268416
As for the OP's qualifications in that post, he was an 18F in the 10th SFG.
If you know much about lifting/running/swimming you'll realize those numbers certainly aren't top 1% athletes
Can I get in with hearing loss? One ear has about 60% of normal hearing. its enough to affect normal conversations with people.
I figure if i tell them theyll say no, but will they test my hearing?
I have some water in my knee and my doctor is wanting to give me a steroid shot.
Anyone know whether this would be a disqualification? I have already had my meps physical. I'm going to talk to my recruiter about it later today but she is a flake and has been wrong about many things so far in the process.
>>29268485
they test your hearing at meps, I'd mention it to a recruiter and see what he says.
>>29263764
is the airforce for people who aren't faggot retards with a death wish?
>>29268744
hes going to say it DQs me
>I'll never be able to join the military
There is no worse pain.
>>29269145
>just asthmatic enough to be DQ'd as well
I know your pain, bro
>>29268416
>>29268454
Amazing, do you have any more pics like this?
>>29268975
The air force is pretty good, it's definitely a better branch to join. This is of course an opinion based on anecdotes from my friends in the other branches. But I'd say the air force is more tolerable than the other branches depending on your AFSC.
>>29269172
I'd recommend heading over to the website yourself, not trying to be a dick but it's got seriously good information for all of your 18x/SF questions.
Honestly asking anyone about 18x on 4chan isn't going to give you the same kind of consistent and verified answers as Professional Soldiers will, as the people answering the questions there are actually Green Berets.
Also not the guy you're replying to
>>29269145
>will never be in the military again
There is no worse pain than a reservists pain.
>>29269196
Sounds good man
>>29269209
I am the guy you're responding to. Just read and follow the rules when you hop over there.
I've been a member for 6 months and haven't posted a single thing.
>>29269166
my issue is eyesight
which means I can't even be a cop
or firefighter
fug ;_;
>>29269199
I don't really know how it works so I'll ask:
Do you have any say on whether you stay in the Military or in the Reserve?
>>29269474
>my issue is eyesight
How bad? You got some weird shit like astigmatism?
>>29269029
What?
>>29268975
Imo the air force by far has the best professional training.
The most obvious example I can think of is how the 17d school follows comptia curriculum while the marine corps 0651 school is its own random bullshit that doesn't allow you to sit for any international certs.
Alright guys the plan is to join the army and go 35 series. Most likely 35F. But I hope to only do 3 years active. Will I be able to do that with the 35 series? If not are there any good alternatives?
>>29265969
There's no way you went from E-1 to E-4 in 10 months.
There's something you're not telling us here.
Also BLC is only worthwhile if you're distinguished honor grad, otherwise it's just a step to promotion and it doesn't really matter when you go. Like another anon pointed out, there used to be PFC's going to PLDC/WLC
Do you have a college degree?
>>29269482
>How bad?
pretty bad
20/100
>You got some weird shit like astigmatism?
Astigmatism
Ocular Albinism
Nystagmus
Strabismus
There's one more I can't remember.
>>29269592
Wow that sucks, I'm 20/200 in both eyes but luckily have none of the other issues. Just my myopia
GL man
Going to go meet the recruiter. He said he'd take a look and see what he could do for an RE-3E. Wish me luck, /meg/.
How can I find out if MEPS has any previous records on me? I made an abortive attempt to enlist 3 or 4 years ago and I may have let slip some disqualifying medical information.
>>29269609
>I may have let slip some disqualifying medical information.
How bad are you talking here?
>>29269636
A few allergies with the medical documents to prove it, the recruiter said I'd have to get it waivered. I ended up just going to college.
>>29269645
Be specific.
Med and food allergies are never a problem. The only thing that requires a waiver is if you mention the magic word "anaphylaxis," and even then the waiver usually only takes a couple weeks to process.
>>29269722
It's peanut allergies, which my doctor said could potentially be life-threatening. If I do try to reenlist I just want to know ahead of time if MEPS already has anything on me.
>>29269790
If you're asking whether there is still a file on you, yes, there is. As I said before, whether you can get in all depends on what you told the medical history doctor at meps. If you don't remember then I can't help you.
Regardless, I say go for it and see what happens. If you can't get in then you can't get in, oh well; you'll never know what it is like to have someone your age yelling in your face because he has some cloth "arrows" on his arm. At least you'll know for sure rather than if you were you sit around wondering.
Air Force security forces a mistake if my Mage scores are over 90? I want to be a tacp/jtac/cct but I'm not strong enough. I don't want to waste anymore time out of the service. I just want to stop bad guys.
>>29269891
go be a marine/army 11b if you want to stop baddies
>>29269891
Just to clarify, I'm 19, and I'm pting trying to get ready. Cct physical is crazy hard though.
>>29269909
>Marine/army
>not Coast Guard
>>29269891
You'll just be pulling over guys who are drunk driving and occasionally stopping someone who is beating the shit out of their wife.
>>29269929
>stopping cubans instead of mexicans
wew
Degree jockey here, been in talks with a recruiter to go OTS for Chair Force. Took a practice test at the local station the other day and got a projected 85 or whatever; keep studying at the rate I've been for AFOQT or hit the books harder?
>>29269891
Air Force Security is basically like Army MP, you're gonna be stuck in the base checking ID's and spending long hours sitting/standing in the same place staring out a window. So don't expect to get to stop any bad guys other than some drunk idiot making a fool of himself.
>>29269929
Why is his gun red?
>>29269955
check my dub dubs faggots
>>29269958
An 85 on which component? Did they have you take the asvab instead of a practice afoqt for some reason?
One of the biggest pieces of advice I can give is to make sure your study materials are up to date. For example the hidden figures section is no longer on the afoqt, it would suck to waste time devising strategies for it.
>tfw going to navy boot camp right now
>can't swim at all and literally autistic
At least shitposting on 4chan solidified military time for me.
Im scared as fuck but im kind of happy.
>>29270003
It's literally just being able to swim across a pool, they don't time you
Just keep paddlin'
Do whatever they tell u
Be loud and c onfident when you're aksed something
>>29270002
The recruiter at the station called it a EST practice test so I'd assume it was one for the ASVAB that they just use for some reason. I guess it could be similar albeit without having the aviation modules on it. As for the 85, I think it was for the composite score? There were 60s for other scores but the recruiter at the station didn't explain them, just said he'd forward the scores to my recruiter up in Patrick.
And yeah, I noticed that when looking between two guides I bought for cheap. Been trying to memorize and recognize all the aviation jargon as everything else I can more or less perform well on.
>>29270036
Aye aye captain!
I already know im going to get yelled at heavily because im legit autistic but it's an adventure.
Ive never been swimming in the deep end but I believe I can hide my phobia and di it!
Were all going to make it!
Hopefully I make it. I hope there's dumber but doubt it.
>>29270100
whats your rate?
also r u a qt?
>>29269952
I want to be a pupper handler tho
>>29270100
Oh god, anon. I hope you do make it. Don't let the yelling get you down!
>>29270120
E1
I was one credit off from e2
Yeoman
But unless you like hairy muscular men with below average penis than no. I just like talking like an anime character on 4chan.
>>29270056
Yeah, that was probably an asvab test. Don't fall for the old trick of them stating that since there are no officer slots available you enlisting will put you in a good position to be an officer later; they may be trying to set you up for that.
I'm prior enlisted and I'm going through the process of getting commissioned in the Air Force currently. The asvab is a complete joke, but the afoqt is like high school algebra 1 and 2 level math - college algebra if you don't remember high school. Take your studying for it seriously; yes, the material is basic but you are strictly timed. You need to be completing a word problem every 70 seconds in order to finish the math sections so you'll want to review all sorts of odd math stuff that you may have forgotten over the years.
People who aren't going for a pilot slot just ignore the aircraft information section as your pilot and nav scores are thrown out for line officers.
Rotated blocks is gone as well. Those sections were swapped for reading comprehension, situation awareness and a personality assessment - if a guide you're looking at has those three sections in it then it is up to date.
>>29270147
you are not trappy. why are you posting trappy
>>29270216
Oh, thank fuck. Yeah, some of the algebra I never learned (thanks to a Haitian teacher with a thick accent) popped up in the more recent study guides I have. I'll just study the core modules, then. Maybe some plane jargon as well. Thanks for the information!
>>29270147
I like bears too anon... I'm a twinky manlet going into navy.. maybe we can meet up after you finish basic?
>>29270253
No problem. A dude I tested with who was trying to be a pilot told me he read the entire FAA handbook in preparation...
I unironically recommend going to the Air Force reddit if you want in depth info on jobs and OTS. There are very few people on 4chan who go Air Force and even less who are getting commissioned so you're unlikely to get any useful information here.
Since you have internet access after training hours in OTS there are a few people there right now who post on reddit. One of them who graduated last month made a very detailed blog on every week of training; it is kind of pretentious because he isn't prior service and he tends to whine a little about the training at times, but it is still a good read.
>>29270147
>>29270284
>tfw thought navy being gay was a meme
>>29270354
I'll check it out. I hope the asshole syndrome is more born than learned; I had a freshman roommate in college going through AFROTC always acting like hot shit when talking about his PT. His family gave us free food, though. Pity them.
>>29270427
I guess when you're around a bunch of college aged kids who sit in the dorms stuff their faces withfast food you probably do feel like a stud by running a few miles every week.
I was and enlisted Marine and the PT they do in ots sounds like a joke. On the cardio days they run like two miles and do calisthenics, on the strength days they just do body weight exercises. The candidates have access to the base gym, I'm assuming because they know the PT isn't nearly enough if someone is hoping to max out their pft score.
>>29270531
Fair enough. And holy shit, really? That's nothing. I'd be in the gym pretty often, then.
>>29269482
wait, you can get DQ'd for astigmatism? am i fucked?
>>29270569
After reading the blog and talking to some officers I have come to the conclusion that ots is purposely run lile more of a professional development course than a military indoc one, the last stat I checked was that 40% of people who go are prior enlisted.
They don't baby the officer trainees like in enlisted basic or OCS for other branches. It is more like they give you a basic structure and it is up to you and your flight to figure out how to meet the standards, or else you fail out. I am excited to go, it seems to me like this system probably takes in highly motivated people and produces superior officers.
Im in DEP until November what do
>>29270735
Jack off and play video games until then.
I hurt my knee from a combination of squatting and then running in the same day 15 or 16 days ago, and I leave for AF basic in 2 weeks but it still hasn't healed all the way, and I'm worried it might not by the time I leave for basic.
It isn't constant pain at all, in fact it never really hurts unless I walk around for a fair bit (~10 mins.)
My question is, do I tell my recruiter since I'm about to leave? Should I just wait 2 weeks and hope it's better?
My contract requires TS clearance so I'm afraid if I see a doctor they will see and it might DQ me.
I seriously don't know what to do. I need advice. Anyone experience anything like this? I feel like the universe is against me right now, I was set and physically prepared for this, and suddenly I might be fucked right when I was so close.
What happens if I show up to basic and few days later I can't PT because of pain? Will I get sent home?
>>29267448
>>29267457
Could I get someone to answer 1,3, and 4, please?
>>29270829
No you'll get sent to med hold where you will be trapped in a small barrack with people who want to commit suicide. And you'll be there un till you heal. By the end of it you'll want to commit suicide too. and they'll keep you there un till you don't want to commit suicide anymore.
Your 8 week experience could turn into a 6month one. so you go, Because you can't get out now, and you scurve and only do as much as is healthy because you don't get points for being the best at the special Olympics.
My post format is shit because I'm on a phone
>>29266817
How does that work in the Ranger Regiment?
Are you required to get PRK done as a batt infantryman if you wear glasses?
>>29271046
so just don't say shit and go there and get put on literal suicide watch?
I want off this ride
>>29271063
Yep, any SOF will require uncorrected eyesight.
>>29270829
try this out
>>29271076
can you get an op 40 with uncorrected vision? or must it be corrected to get that in your contract?
>>29270673
>tfw get to look forward to kill hats screaming at me in Navy OCS constantly while this anon gets to use his phone after the end of the day
thats if i even get pro rec'd
>>29271122
Not just cell phones, you get hard wired internet access as well. You just have to bring your own laptop...lol. Fuck the Dept of the Navy, I'll never go back.
Oh and if the ots anon is still here: wrong answers on the afoqt don't count against you. If you run out of time try to fill in guesses when the proctor isn't looking so you can get a chance at a slightly higher score.
>>29271076
Alright. Do you get it in your contract that it'll be done sometimes between basic and selection? I want mother army to pay for it.
Does anyone know anything about CBRN? My recruiter said it looked like something I would be interested in. How hard would it be to swing a post abroad with that MOS?
>>29268237
It would be for jaw surgery and braces, I'm assuming they'll see how fucked up my mouth is. Doesn't cause me any issues yet, but I don't know how much longer that will last
>>29271167
i was looking at OTS but fuck seemed difficult to get in and the recruiter was flaky. especially since most are priors. i think ocs gets internet too eventually after a month. i heard its locked down though like in china
the navy guys seemed so friendly
>>29271167
I'm back, just went to the local church for voting in the primaries.
And shit, really? I thought it was better to leave it blank; I'll take that into account. My only real issue for the test will be some math and science. Maybe some of the subjective as fuck situational judgment questions.
>>29271303
oh fuck i forgot to vote
oh well
>>29271340
NIGGA YOU STILL GOT TIME GET TO IT
>>29271340
dude, MAGA
>>29271096
Thanks. Trying this. How long/often do you think I should do this?
>>29271350
>>29271358
eh i guess i could go
who should i vote for?
>>29271367
>>29271363
At least two minutes, preferably more. Google voodoo flossing as well, I've done it to great effect on my ankles
>>29271076
>>29271105
I have a relative who didn't get PRK until after he finished HALO school and got assigned to a team, he's an 18c. I don't think it was mandatory but I might be wrong on that one.
>>29271386
>>29271393
alright guess trump is getting one free vote in florida
>>29271454
Fellow Floridabro! 561 here.
>>29271267
I know the program is difficult to get into. They are currently only accepting applicants with stem degrees and for civilians you have to have at least a 3.5 gpa, which is pretty crazy considering the national average for computer science is 2.8. Makes you wonder; why would someone who was exceptional in school want to be an Air Force network ops officer and do retard work for a living?
OTS guys apparently get phone and internet access on the first day after 1800. At this point in my life if I were to go to Marine or Navy OCS my biggest problem would probably be trying to not laugh in the face of a staff sergeant who is younger than me, yelling at me, who probably has no combat action ribbon yet a couple campaign medals.
>>29271303
Yeah.. the general science and aircraft information sections are the only ones I know that I didn't do well on.
One of my general science questions was "Which celestial body is referred to as 'The Morning Star'?" - what the fuck?
>>29271475
i had a 3.5 gpa in biochem
didnt know whether or not it was very competitive so i checked the navy dudes out for info and they seemed so cool and friendly so i just went with them
>>29271461
305 here son
>>29271475
Oh, wow. I took astronomy in high school and I still don't know the answer to that. "Well-rounded purview of knowledge" my ass. So the algebra 2 questions, the general science, and some of the situational judgments will be what get me for core modules. I'm not even going to pretend that I'd know the answers to some of the airport runway questions for aviation.
>>29271475
i think its venus iirc
i feel like that should be a navy thing more than an AF question
How to be airforce pupper man.
>>29264710
Pull up the AFSC on about.com, for a lot of jobs they will post bases where the job exists. I hear Germany, other than that no idea.
>>29271621
Type in 'Air Force K-9 unit' or 'Air Force K-9 security' on Google.
>>29271533
Cool. I'm not trying to talk shit about your life choice. I actually think it is a good idea for someone with no prior service to go through an actual indoctrination, it is always fun and makes for good memories. I'll always advocate for anything but the Marine Corps.
>>29271596
The situation awareness section will probably trip up anyone who isn't prior service. Try to remember that the answers which involve jumping or otherwise undermining the chain of command in a non-combat situation are usually the worst choice and acting as a mediator are the best.
>>29271618
Yeah, it is Venus. I had no idea what that was, it sounded like some kind of folklore biblical shit. I was upset that it was my first question and it definitely set the tone for the entire section, it was full of weird abstract crap that a 3rd grade science teacher may just mention in passing to their class.
Worst of all, at seven minutes it is the shortest section of the afoqt. They apparently expect applicants to actually know all this shit and just breeze through it, kind of like aircraft information. I guess they want you to be studying thousands of random "scientific facts" to prep for it.
>>29271775
I saw that as the trend for the situational awareness questions, yeah. Some of the practice questions in one of my booklets I got wrong cuz I figured doing nothing would be worse than doing something dumb. And hoo boy, if that's going to be the tone of the science section then I may as well look through some SAT/ACT practice books.
Are there any legitimate reasons to join the Marine Corps over any of the other branches?
>>29272041
No.
The only reason to go Marine Corps is to wear the uniform and call yourself a Marine.
>>29272041
Join the marines if you want to be able to tell other people that you're a marine. That's the only reason really.
>>29272041
Technically you get to fight the bad guys more. But lol peacetime military.
>>29263764
How competitive is Navy helo aviation?
Never-gonna-happen-tier like fighter pilots? or doable with a degree from a state school and a boner for helicopters?
>>29272199
I'm not 100 percent sure, my uncle is a helicopter pilot in the navy, just getting out. He said its still pretty competitive and he's a naval academy graduate.
I'm also a corpsman if you have other questions. Honestly though in the military its pretty fair as long as you're motivated for your goal and not a fuck up you can realistically get anywhere.
I still feel kind of bad for my uncle because airliners aren't really looking at him for hire since his hours aren't enough and rotary wing isn't good enough it seems.
>>29272253
You're a corpsman? Did you enlist recently?
How often to corpsman contracts come up?
I am joining after college since Ive got super mediocre grades, but I still want to stay in the medical field so I've still got a chance at med school down the road.
Are their more elite units that corpsmen can get into that arent quite special forces, but still better than marine rifle platoons? Stuff kinda like SARCs, but a different type of job.
>>29269984
because he's ya mum
>>29272199
How hard is it to get into Navy aviation? I was planning on applying. I did good on the astb btw.
>>29272387
whatd you get? its worth a shot if you have a decent gpa (3.5) less so if your degree is stem
check the airwarriors link
>>29272308
I've been in for about a year.
Despite us being super overmanned billets still come up very frequently evidently.
As far as elite units go but not SF, Recon is the best bet, a great place to be for advancement too, I haven't met a recon corpsman who didn't make chief in under 12 years.
As far as an HM from A school and field med training you could hope to go to a marine LAR battalion, thats what I hope to get soon. LAR is light amphibious reconnaissance. Get to roll around and dismount in LAVs and do missions with recon.
>>29272401
I got 9/7/8
>>29272446
the big number?
>>29272473
then dont worry youre a shoo in im sure you have a good gpa/degree as well
try to get everything done by april-ish for the next board iirc
they need aviators
>>29272498
My vision isn't good enough but I'm planning on getting surgery. I'll have to wait for a later board I guess. Those earlier posts got me worried that jets and helos are hard to get into. I just don't want C-130s or anything big.
Whats a cool airforce job? I cant into SOF because I dont wana, but I like out door stuff, computers, radios sound fun, and guns. I scored super well on the asvab and I am swearing in on Thursday. I can use some help filling out my job list.
>>29272562
navy doesnt fly that shit
they fly the jets
the sub hunters
the prowler and the hawkeye
thank you red storm rising
Was disqualified from the army. Any paramilitary group or something similar I could join?
>>29272600
French foreign legion
Why were you disqualified?
>>29272600
Does any Armyfag have the recruiting message that lists MOS options open to prior service enlisted?
I'm trying to reenlist with 5 years prior service in the Marine Corps and I don't want to waste the recruiters time by going in and having them dig for info for me when I won't signing, I just want to know my options before I choose between reenlistment and LE work
>>29272612
mental illness
>>29272637
It changes, but it's almost always 18X + 35P. Don't count on anything else being on there.
>>29265841
They dont. They make you spread 'em. Just dont fart.
>>29272791
they have to shove in a finger to see if youre healthy
thats how my physical went
kind of like penis inspection with my gym teacher back in gradeschool
will i get dq'ed if i have an ingrown hair zit near my dick?
>>29272671
dont tell the FFL about that and youre in
>>29272671
You moron you could have just not told the Army and avoided any mos that made you get top secret clearance.
>>29272911
hurrr
>>29272811
Nigga they did not have to do that. At all. Sorry... but you got ass fucked.
so my recruiter said that TS guys couldn't access medical records, is this true?
>>29272933
>didn't catch the penis inspection day meme
>>29272941
You're recruiter is a lying piece of shit.
You give them the right to dig through your records.
If it's secret clearance and you don't give them your insurance info or any records from hospitals you've visited and you give them no reason to look through them, you're home free.
But if they're going through your shit for top secret, then they will find it and you're fucked.
Tl;dr: They can access it.
>>29272973
Your recruiter*
>>29272973
okay, i'll just shoot for something that's not intel then lol
>>29272973
you think i could reclass after i've been in a bit and be good? (went to a rehab thing because my mom is a tard and overrreacted when i was younger)
>>29273032
You'd still have to get clearance and waive the right to keep your medical records private.
>>29273075
well yeah but would i be okay disclosing then or should i just forget about ever getting a TS?
>>29273095
If you have to lie to enlist getting TS is a bad idea.
Or you could wait patiently for a major war to kick up, enlist then and get your medical shit waived easily, and have 0 problems getting TS and going on with your Intel career.
>>29273130
fuck me i'll just be a cav scout or a medic then, i was wanting to be a 35 mike anyways
>>29270982
>>29267448
>>29267457
Don't know if you're still here....
1) Yes, it is possible to retrain. Though your options dwindle the higher you get and the longer you've been in. SSG (E-6) is normally the limit on being able to retrain. Of course there are exceptions.
2) Rangers are always an option if you meet the basic qualifications.
3) More than I care to list. Many MOS's translate directly into the civilian sector. This would be something to discus with your recruiter.
4) Yes and no. This is unit dependent.
What level of clearance would a sub nuke need to get? Not worried, just curious.
>>29273130
Silly question. I'm kind of in the same boat, with the added bonus that the bill is on my credit history (I was homeless at the time). Should I worry if I'm not going for TS?
>>29273367
Top secret
but why be a Nuke
>>29272637
What was your rank and long have you've been out?
>>29271211
Don't.
Just... don't.
>>29273390
I thought they only needed top secret for subs that are doing special ops, otherwise just secret.
>>29273569
Can you expand on that? Hazardous cleanup is kind of something that I thought would be cool. And I figured there'd be a little security, and that I could at the very least have a long career.
Now here's the part where you laugh. Lay some knowledge on me.
>>29273653
you will never do your job
>>29273653
>Hazardous cleanup is kind of something that I thought would be cool.
Might be, if you actually did it. The US military hasn't actually conducted large scale CBRN operations in decades.
how stupid am i for wanting to go cav scout
>>29273715
>>29273709
Wait, what the fuck would I be doing then?
What's the best enlisted gig in the Army? Out of all the MOSs
>>29273739
If you're lucky you'll wind up in one of a few chemical units and at the very least get to train on your job. Most likely in charge of the unit's CBRN equipment as a second job while working operations.
>>29273751
92G
>>29272041
To be able to call yourself a Marine
>>29273788
>92G
you know, i sometimes wonder if there aren't jobs that just sound terrible but are actually really cushy/easy
>>29273378
Anyone?
hey look at that trump won florida my vote made a difference
wait he lost in miami dade
but still
