What do you prefer and why?
Spyderco for me. Spidy hole along seals the deal. Most favorite way to open besides a flipper. I like that they offer a lot of great well built knives that are cheap too. Little things like the Ladybug or beaters like the Endura 4 can't be beat on value and utility.
Benchmarked makes quality products. But so does Spyder. Both can easily rival each other in that quality.
I vote Spyderco simply because they're slightly cheaper.
>>28900951
>spending that much on a knife
why tho
having never owned either, I can say with absolute certainty that kershaw is better than both.
>>28900989
60 for an endurance 4 I'd a lot? Fucking save up if that's "expensive"
>>28901043
he didn't say it was expensive.
I recently bought the Spyderco Paramilitary.
I have never really purchased an "expensive" knife before because I see them as working tools are often lose them.
So far I have been extremely impressed. The blade is scary sharp.
Benchmade has a cult following. A lot of people buy them based on their industry name, a majority of people probably couldn't tell the difference in blade quality between a Gerber and a Benchmade. Much less telling the difference between Spiderco and Benchmade.
>>28900951
I buy Benchmade because of their customer service and blade sharpening program. I have a 915 that I use daily at work. I beat it to death. My blade had a chip on it and when I last went it in to get sharpened they sent it back with a hand written note saying, "noticed the blade was chipped, it's obvious you use this a ton. Enjoy the new blade."
Yeah. They replaced my fucking blade. Every knife I own is a Benchmade now. You might say, "way to fall for the one free blade". Yeah well fuck it. They took care of me when they didn't have to. Not many companies are doing that anymore.
>>28901089
Emerson is like that too.
I think everyone agrees both are great companies and make great knives. Comes down to personal preferences. Even though I like Spyderco better, I still like Benchmade and a lot of their knives, but only own one. Funny thing is that it's a benchmade with a spidy hole.
I've narrowed my EDC planned purchase to either a Delica 4 or mini griptilian, and am learning towards the Delica.
Is there anything I should know or other great small knives from spyderco or benchmade before I place this order?
>>28901215
My EDC non work knife is an Emisary. It's amazing. Highly recommend it.
>>28900951
Spyderco for me, more functionality. The spidey hole is superior to thumb studs, most spydercos have 4 way pocketclips, the "gimping" (I hate to sound like nutnfancy) is actually usable on Spydercos whereas they are visual, not functional, on most benchmades.
>>28900951
I like a few Benchmade technologies, but when you compare two similar knives from each company, the extra expense of a Benchmade dosnt by you anything.
>>28901215
pic is my edc
i think its a beaut & works well. & idc if it's bitchmade's red line fight me irl
>>28901215
I carry a Spyderco Pacific now since I lost my Delica and I miss my Delica dearly, best knife and steel out there imo
>>28900951
spyderco generally has thinner blades, and thus better blade geometry (it helps that they are typically full flat ground).
BM has a slightly higher "brand tax", though their handles are pretty well designed. They also seem in love with saber grinds, and slightly thicker blades.
Some BMs have holes, most have studs, and the axis lock is very convenient to use.
It really comes down to personal preference. My vote goes to spyderco.
>>28900951
>spydergoy
>bitchmade
>kershit
You lose with all of them
>>28901028
>dat style
>>28901380
let me guess, OP should buy ganzo, because you couldn't afford anything better, and now have to validate yourself by convincing as many people as possible, to follow in your shitty footsteps?
>>28901410
Great design and they are fun knives. But for any kind of hard use they will break and get wobbly. The steel is also very soft and cutting things like zip ties can roll the blade.
>>28901541
>The steel is also very soft and cutting things like zip ties can roll the blade.
they use the same fucking steel as spyderco does on the tenacious.
>>28901556
>they use the same fucking steel as spyderco does on the tenacious
I don't know about that. It certainly isn't heat treated the same. I have both too. The spyderco gets dull fast too, but doesn't roll or chip like my kershaw with hard plastics.
>>28900951
Benchmade. Simply because I'm an anti-semite and I also prefer Benchmade's opening pillar.
whats a good entry level spyderco flip knife
>>28901576
>Simply because I'm an anti-semite
Develop your answer
I don't like many of Spyderco's models but they are generally quality if you don't mind the aesthetics. Got a friend a Ambitious and that thing is built like a tank. Great value.
Benchmade has the axis lock and more normal blade shapes. I'd choose my 943 over any Spyderco model personally.
>>28901410
Kershaw has some nice models but the older ones like the Leek and the Skyline are almost unusable because of the funky pocket clips. Good thing they aftermarket ones I guess.
How does my cheap Buck 284 or285 compare to something like a spyderco? Worth upgrading?
>>28901043
spyderco maybe $60 but benchmade sure as hell arent. at least in terms of pocket knives, they're too small and thus have a tendency to get lost and get damaged to not just carry a $20-40 knife
>>28900975
This this this. Only reason why I stay away from BM is simply because they charge too much for shit Spydie does as well.
>>28901577
Tenacious or Ambitious
>>28901577
Ladybug.
VG-10 steel, and it's the best keychain knife, which everyone should have. If you like it you'll like the bigger more expensive ones. You can get it for $30.
>>28901577
tenacious.
>>28901573
>>28901631
Not him, but I prefer Spyderco's heat treat. It's definitely better on the same steel
>>28901631
>>28901573
>>28901556
neither company uses the same steel for every knife. fuck. kershaw has s30v, china steel that spyderco uses on the tenacious, some other random china steels, etc etc.
>>28901648
it's 58-59 hardness on both knives. kershaw just also makes really low end shit with weaker steel.
>>28900951
I own both. I love the 940-1, more so than the southard. The stop pin started to rattle on my 940. it makes me sad. I've never had anything happen like that with my spydercos.
Winner: Sebenza.
Happy with mine. Use the shit out of it daily. And I like BM free sharpening program.
>>28901714
People who can't sharpen their own knives are literally cucks.
KEKS
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>>28901729
>literally
>>28901596
If you break your knife, get an upgrade as you see fit.
I love my Endura 4.
I don't own a Benchmade though so I cant compare.
Do you prefer gimping or choils?
>>28900951
benchmade
>yes, a bit pricier
>lifetime warranty
>can sharpen your knife for free in their factory
>can send you free pocket clips (deep carry or standard, painted or parkerized)
>always better steel with comparison with spyderco
>stronger blades (thumb holes weakens the blade) i won't pry with it,but just in case
>more classic designs in comparison with spyderco's 70% retarded designed knives
>>28902124
forgot this
>>28901729
Don't think you know what word means. Ask your dad, kid. He for sure would know.
>>28902144
forgot this too
>generally stronger locking mechanism
>most of spydercos are 2/3 handle and only 1/3 sharp blade
>PM2 the most memed and hyped 2-handed/7 finger handle (with a little blade attached to it)
>>28901590
what's there to develop? Spyderco is owned by a jew. Benchamde is not. Sypderco also outsources a ton of their production to China and Taiwan while Benchmade doesn't.
>>28902124
>yes, a bit pricier
Not only pricier, but artificially pricier.
>lifetime warranty
Spyderco has it too, most good knife companies do too.
>always better steel with comparison with spyderco
Flat out wrong.
>stronger blades (thumb holes weakens the blade)
The thumb holes don't weaken the blade enough for it to even be a significant factor.
>>28902263
>generally stronger locking mechanism
Benchmade only has one decent lock in the axis, whereas Spyderco has multiple strong locks.
>most of spydercos are 2/3 handle and only 1/3 sharp blade
True (though exaggerated), but more handle is better if you're not a manlet and gives you more gripping options
>>28902302
>Sypderco also outsources a ton of their production to China and Taiwan while Benchmade doesn't.
Benchmade has multiple lines all outsourced to China and Taiwan.
>>28900951
I like the axis lock of Benchmade.
That's all I know.
>>28902335
>spyderco
>warranty
pick one
>The thumb holes don't weaken the blade
yes it does, a lot
https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=61987
>decent lock in the axis
none of the spyderco locks can beat the axis in versatility and strength
also if i'm buying a knife,i'll buy it for the blade mostly,than for the handle,and if you want a good grip,get a kiridashi,90%handle 10% blade
also i respect all of the spyderco's FFGs, i hate all hollow grinds in general
>>28901685
>unironically owning a karambit
![nokia2501[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xGZ8sUX.jpg "nokia2501[1].jpg")
>>28902512
you can break anything if you're a big enough retard.
>>28901729
Except some steels are too hard to sharpen by hand effectively
>>28902614
can you name a single example?
>>28902632
People complain about sv30
>>28902581
It's not though. It's a CRKT ringer 2.
>>28902632
I was actually going to say this
>>28902652 exactly.
>>28902652
you can hand sharpen sv30.
stones are a lot harder than steel is.
>>28900989
if you got the cash, why not?
>>28901840
Why not both
>>28902675
O, sorry for confusing your ridiculous and worthless meme "knife" for a different brand of ridiculous and worthless meme "knife"
>>28902652
>>28902691
I've got a Gerber Freeman in S30V. You can hand-sharpen it, it just takes longer compared to say, 420C or AUS8. Holds a very good edge, too.
>>28902512
>spyderco
>warranty
>pick one
I pick 2. Sal's given so many free replacement knives even to people who were dicks, that I wonder where this no warranty meme even came from.
>yes it does, a lot
>you in charge of reading comprehension
I never said it didn't weaken the blade. I said it didn't weaken the blade significantly. It's not more likely to break along the hole than it is any other part of the blade.
>none of the spyderco locks can beat the axis in versatility and strength
Watch the Cold Steel lock videos. Spyderco locks do better than the Axis.
>>28902710
Missed a few hugs I take it.
>>28902715
I've avoided sv30 but read quite a bit about it.
The consensus is that it holds a "good" edge for a long time but does not really take a "great" edge. Maybe that's a worthwhile trade off.
I like cm154 so what do I know about it anyway.
>>28901631
>Tenacious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dfBH3cW7k&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0EIAjQ61Y
>>28903828
the question was
>whats a good entry level spyderco flip knife
>>28902335
and the Taiwan plant is widely considered to be spyderco's best one in terms of quality - better than the one in Golden.
>>28903828
also holy fuck, I was just skipping around the video. this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen, and is even more idiotic than nutnfancy beating his knives on rocks.
The best pocket knife I've ever had quality of steel-wise was a Stihl knife that came with a chainsaw I bought
Damn that was some good shit
>>28903917
Good arguments you got there champ.
>>28903982
hammering your knife into the side of a 2x4 than using it as a prybar then having it break shows absolutely nothing.
that test is as meaningful as someone shoving dogshit into a gun barrel and firing it then being amazed that a barrel obstruction fucked it up.
Just got my Yoji 2 in the mail today.
Spyderco is the better company, Benchmade is overpriced.
>>28904000
>shows absolutely nothing
Shows that the blade on the Ganzo is stronger than the one in RAT1 and Tenacious.
I'm not going to argue that opening a tin can, cutting aluminium or stabbing stainless steel with a folding knife is stupid.
>>28904022
hammering rocks with the back of a knife also shows blade strength. but it's still a fucking stupid test that doesn't really demonstrate anything other than misusing a tool might break it.
>>28904041
I think we share the same opinion, shows blade strengh but in a meaningless way because it isn't something you are actually going to do with your knife.
Same as labeling a knife as bad because you can't cut diamonds with it.
Any of you have experience with this model?
I don't like benchmade prices or their handle designs. Spyderco is more modern and extravagant IMO, they make blades with character.
>>28901685
That desert dagger. My nigga
>>28902144
Personally I don't see this as a problem. I like a much larger handle if it means that I can get superior purchase on my blade and have absolute control over it.
I have always personally found benchmade axis locks to be a waste of time, they don't function with any sort of debris in them at all, while a spyderhole or a compression lock with last longer before you have to clean it.
>>28904303
The Ambitious is a very good knife. Outstanding quality, especially for the price point.
>>28904342
I'm considering it as an EDC, something with that size won't be as treating to other people.
The problem is I live in EU, so it would cost me around 36€, still worth it at that price?
Benchmade!
Because I have a deep emotional attachment to my edc. I buy with my heart. I love the fucker liner lock and all.
>>28900951
I like some of Benchmade's designs, but I think their quality control and value are shit. For the most part, they charge ridiculous prices for the materials and quality control they offer.
Spyderco, on the other hand, offers a fantastic value on a number of products, great QC, the Spyderhole, highly inventive and user friendly designs, grinds made for maximum cutting efficiency and superior ergonomics, and they also experiment with super high end boutique steels...while offering them at reasonable prices! It's no contest if you ask me.
>>28905111
I'm probably going to order a Ganzo clone to see how I feel about the spyderhole, then move onto the real thing if I find it comfortable because I never tried them.
>>28905140
I would recommend a Byrd instead. Functionally, the comet shaped hole will be exactly the same as the round hole. The quality will be better and you won't be using a dirty clone.
>>28902302
Afaik Spyderco doesn't make a single knife, they're all outsourced, doesn't make them bad knives, their US/Japan/Italy made knives are great.
>>28905270
not true, they have 5 or 6 knives made by them in golden colorado still. though they do depend on japan and italy for their high volume quality knives
>>28905280
Heh, you learn something every day, I figured the Colorado made knives were also outsourced to a local company.
ITT: Knife Autism
Both brands will suit you well
Fuck even basic beater knives work for 99% of the population that would need knives.
>>28905286
afaik, taichung is the best, and gets their high end models, then golden, and seki. china does the low end stuff, and they have some made in other places (i think lionsteel handles the italian ones, not sure who makes the britbong slipjoint, might be them as well).
>>28902703
what is ammo/guns
>>28900951
I feel you can get better steel for a better price with spyderco.
>>28902632
Hitachi blue #2
>>28905853
>pull-through sharpener
>>28905918
>pull-through sharpener
the horror...
the horror...
>>28905853
As a free hand sharpener....
These things are not quite as bad as people make out.
>>28905286
Paramilitary 2 and military are made in their Colorado factory some of the best they offer
>>28904392
I'd say so.
>>28904013
>hollow grind
https://youtu.be/IlS7LlTBDro?t=1125
>spyder hole
https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?t=61987
>>28905111
What dimension do you live in that benchmade has worse quality control than spyderco?
>>28901410
got a Cryo recently, fuckin great little knife.
>>28906284
Well yeah, you can use them from time to time if need be, but doing that shit too much leaves you without a blade, more of a toothpick.
>>28900975
Pretty much this
Especially since BM started enforcing their minimum prices
Before a few websites wouldn't advertise the BM prices because BM has minimum prices
So you would put in your email and thy would send you an email with the price which was about 15% lower than the normal (not msrp) price
Like griptillians were about 85-90 and from gpknives they were 70-75 which was nice
Now if retailers do that Benchmade won't supply them with knives
>>28901215
If you haven't already the answer is it depends
The spyderco is thinner and lighter with a great steel
The Benchmade is thicker and fill your hand more comfortably with great steel
If you are using it for mostly simple tasks the spyderco will be great
If you might hard use it more Benchmade will probably serve you better
Both are great knives I own both a little bonus point is the spyderco sharpens easier and will take a scary edge
The Benchmade will hold an edge longer is slightly harder to sharpen and won't take quite the same edge as a spyderco (it will still shave)
>>28905496
This. Their Taiwan plant is the best, followed by Colorado and Japan.
>>28909891
yeah, some people have trouble disassociating China and Taiwan.
Long story short:
Taiwan is where all the money from China went after the commie revolution (all the buisnessmen with all the know-how just packed up and left for Taiwan).
There are some decent makers in PRC (real steel knives, despite the shitty brand name, are making a good effort), but Taiwan is a different place.
And it all comes down to the craftsmen anyway - like the best kukris come from Nepal, which is like the 3rd poorest country in the world or something like that.
>>28901556
Yes but KAI does the cheapest, shittiest heat treats and doesn't give a fuck about QC
>>28902614
No they aren't.
You just need better sharpening skills and equipment.
Pic related on ZDP-189 at ~64 HRC. Yes I even thinned out the primary grind by hand.
>>28905853
Enjoy your toothpick with a ragged, floppy burr that collapses immediately in use :^)
>>28901840
I prefer jimping on my choils
>>28902175
Listen kid, I'm partially weapons trained. Don't EVER respond to me again.
>>28902652
>have sv30 super steel
>"it's too hard for muh jap stones!"
Go out and find a piece of granite river rock
>>28904303
Cute! CUTE!
>>28912380
Japanese waterstones cut steel faster than any other type of stone though...
I have multiple Sypderco, multiple Benchmade and a few other select brands...love them all.
Some of my favourites are the Paramilitary 2, serrated Police, the Matriarch with Emerson feature. For hard use, daily carry the Kershaw/Emerson collaborations aren't bad, though the 8CR13MoV isn't in the same category as some nicer steels. The Japanese Aus8A on a few of my older Cold Steel knives takes a razor-like edge, but just doesn't hold it as well as most of my Spydies and Benchmades do. I am anxious to try the Carpenter CTS XXP that is popping up in some of the old favourite Cold Steel models.
>>28912704
Make that Carpenter CTS XHP :o
>>28912380
jap stones work well for sv30. the only stones that don't work well are arkansas oil stones.
>>28900951
>>28913745
>full serrations
Pic related is my EDC/field work knife and it's by far one of the best non-fixed blades I've ever owned. Made of the S30V a few other anons have mentioned and can confirm it is excellent at holding an edge.
I also have a few other Benchmade autos that I occasionally carry (HK Entourage is my go to) and I've never had any complaints about them either.
I wouldn't say I'm loyal to the brand, but it's worth mentioning that, in my experience, Benchmade products have never let me down.
>>28914007
>he unironically fell for the bitchmade meme
>>28914042
Spydershill pls go
This would have been a debate until recently.
Now that Spyderco makes a titanium framelock IKBS flipper with a 3+" cutting edge in a Delica sized hande out of CPM-M4, there is no debate.
Spyderco Mantra GOAT
>>28900951
Enlan
i want the tenacious but i can't afford it
>>28914518
>>28914518
Save up $5 a week for 7 weeks and you can buy it
>>28914536
a dudes gotta eat
>>28912327
watching anime doesn't count as weapons training.
>>28901300
Seconded for an Emissary.
>>28900951
Different tools for different fools.
Both are great.
Benchmade being knives engineered to showcase the many possible features of the modern folding knife, a high quality steel, an ultra-modern proprietary locking mechanism, with a remarkable aesthetic touch to all their designs.
Spyderco being arguably more basic knives made to be as functional as possible, the Spyderco signature looks being the big thumb hole and the thumb ramp it sits in, and lightweight handle scales, giving them great ergonomics and a ridiculously light weight to most of their designs, with a simple yet rigid lock design and high quality steel.
The assorted knives made by both companies are generally accepted as all being great designs for their similarly assorted purposes.
Just make sure you buy a knife made for what you want to use it for, and you'll find that whichever companies design you get will be perfect.
I have a delica 4 ffg for lightweight use and a griptilian for heavier use, and you just can't go wrong.
