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what about the firearms culture slightly annoys you?

for me its "GOOD GUY PAPERS REQUIRED TO BUY IT!! I WILL CHECK!"

just say you need to see a CHP
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These shit threads
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>>28872180
>what about the firearms culture slightly annoys you?
Other gun owners.
Zombies.
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>>28872180
> GOOD GUY PAPERS
Kek, where do you live where people actually say that?
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Fudds who ruin everything for us all
Also they insane guys who always feel the need to make themselves heard and make us all look like retards
The kind of guy who will interject on your attempt at a logical pro-gun argument to yell about
>MUH FEMA DEATH CAMPS
>9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
>MUH CHEMTRAILS
>CUM AND GIT IT I'LL SHOOT ANYBODY WHO WALKS ON MY PROPERTY MOLDY LABIA BROTHER
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Doomsday prepper tier prepers
Fudds who will sell only to chp/ccw holders instead of transfering through an ffl
Tacticooling anything and everything
Zambies
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>>28872722
virginia, i'm starting to think its fudd slang since i mainly see the older gents saying it
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>People who use firearms to satisfy/provide for elaborate power fantasies

Basically the gun version of the to the overly litigious, jumping at the chance to legally use a firearm to exert power over someone. Mostly people who shoot down/swear to shoot down "drones" the second they have an excuse to.

>muh scary word for model helicopter
>muh privacy
>muh property
>what are kids playing with toys

I'm sure they've been abused before, but 9 times out of 10 its like destroying some kids baseball because it lands in hour yard, only its a several hundred dollar baseball.

Drone examples aside (admittedly they would be a lot of fun to plink at), shooting shit that doesn't really need shot to "teach a lesson" is extraordinarily passive aggressive
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>>28872753

These mother fuckers right here.

They are the same people that will walk up to strangers talking about guns with
>yup, i got this 1911 hurr
>you read about that new UN revolution, tryin' to round up all our "small arms"?
>y'know that means they wanna disarm us!
>i tell you what brother, fuggin barack HUSSEIN obama is dickin' us gun owners
>rush limbaugh said..
>you gotta listen to the REAL news, you think those librul websites are gonna tell you the truth?
>lemme tell you about .270 winchester..

Fuck, I don't like Obama either but its gotten as bad as the "Well did you know that BUSH.." was in the late 2000s.
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>>28872180

tacticool tryhards

people who shit on AK's

people who shit on AR's

people who shit on milsurp

people who shit on 9mm

people who think anything in the firearm world is black and white that clearly isnt
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>>28872180
Background check that violates the principle of Innocent until Proven Guilty in order to buy a piece of private property.
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>>28872180
Preppers and wanna be gang members with legal guns they got from a store
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>>28873015
>people who shit on 9mm
>people who think anything in the firearm world is black and white that clearly isnt
but not people who shit on fuddy five
the irony is palpable
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>Manufacturer/brand whores
>.22 fags who think its an all purpose hunting SHTF round because they can put 500 of them in a Gatorade bottle
>general pretentious assholes who feel the need to tell you how much they paid for something the second you display a modicum of interest
>people who have a rabid hate for a certain brand/manufacturer, it's an inanimate object get the fuck over it
>people who think every gun is a nine or fowtay
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>>28873065

sorry for triggering you faggot.

9mm is the superior carry cartridge tho.

>patiently waiting your butthurt response
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>People who think they're bad-asses for having a gun
>People who refer to guns by the caliber they shoot, like calling a Glock a ".40" or a 1911 a ".45"
>Those people who buy a bunch of surplus/MOLE shit and think they're elite operators
>That one faggot constantly bragging about his safe queen Gucci AR that he shoots thrice a year
>Fudds
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>>28872180
Gun owners who think the 2nd Amendment only covers firearms.
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>>28872180
>people who own multiple guns but don't know anything about guns

>when those same people try giving you advice on anything gun-related

>faggots in gun stores displaying that they know nothing of proper etiquette/behavior

>faggots in gun stores that haven't done a shred of research into what they are looking for; hoping that the guy behind the counter is an all-knowing wizard

>the guy behind the counter at about 80% of gun shops having the shittiest opinions and lackluster knowledge of his own place of employment/its inventory.
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>>28872180

The line at every gun+knife show...

>Unbathed, smelly middle-aged dudes
>Giant pit stains
>Missing teeth
>Snap-back caps with unkempt hair sticking out from under
>Unwashed Flannel
>Overalls
>Chew'n tabba'cer
>Curled upper lip
>Drove there in a rusted 70s/80s pickup
>Loves country music
>Strong southern redneck accent
>Probably born from incest

Why do I hate these fuckers so much? They gawk at everything and walk as poorly as they drive. And they fucking stink.
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>>28873212
this
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>>28873081
Don't be a fag. The superior cartridge is whichever you shoot better with.
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>>28873212

If I have a chronic intestinal/digestive problem, am I technically a bad-ass?

(I ask because I have the angriest case of IBS in human history... Sitting here trying not to shit myself)

:(
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>>28873374
How much do you weigh?
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>>28873342

or in other words 9mm.
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>>28872180
TFW Texan 18 year old and people won't sell handguns to me because I don't have a chl.

Fuck you Klebold.
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>>28873520

Use texasguntrader

I bought my first handgun off there when I was 19.
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>>28873468
Or whatever you shoot better with. The 9mm vs .45 debate is old shit.
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>>28873322

Ha

What the fuck is it about gun shows that bring these people out?
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>>28873453

6'1, 185lbs, Ottermode
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The bullshit macho bravado surrounding so much of it, like the idea that owning guns suddenly makes you manlier. If you're a massive puss, guns aren't going to help. Also, the cringy shit like all the punisher skulls, sheepdog shit and III%er crap
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>>28873794

I swear they have some inaudible mating call.

Then I realize that mating call is just mouthbreathing and yokel haws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7qhVJIPfck
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>>28873322
>he doesn't love country music
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>>28872180
>they need papers to buy a gun

time to prep the bull and get back to your cuck shed lol
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>>28873950
Country music is the shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4u8CwDAfKQ
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>>28874056
I was thinking more along the lines of
https://youtu.be/LWx6csgGkg4
But okay
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>>28874076
New country burns my eyes, ears, and mouth; older stuff, however, tends to be pretty good actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi94mMed6EQ
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>>28873623
That's what I've been using. Keeping a lookout for a mak and others but every handgun seller I have encountered thus far has denied me
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>>28874104
Cowboy music is the only good country music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=999RqGZatPs
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>>28874104
Sturgill sounds like old country to me though. He's not a Nashville faggot like Luke Bryan or Florida Georgia Line.
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>I won't ever own X because it can't withstand (near impossible scenario)
>what gun should I get for "SHTF"
>/pol/fags that think they're welcome here
>retards that give into instant gratification and buy cheap shitty guns then later force others to make the same decisions as they did
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>>28874138
My nigga. This is my favorite album.
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>>28874104
Sturgill's got the Waylon sound though
https://youtu.be/tNV16tz1NK0
http://youtu.be/b9yKaFft1RA
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>"Trigger discipline"
Not the act of doing it, because that's cool and safe and all, but the recognition of it.
Keeping your booger hook off the bang lever isn't a noteworthy event, yet people still cream their pants and jump up and down in excitement every time they see someone practice it. Maybe this is just autism, but anytime someone does it I get secondhand embarrassment worse than anything else.
>Bonus round
When people call out movie screenshots
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Range douches.
>similar to tacticool and tactitryhard
>Shows up to the range to look cool
>shoots 1inshot group from 20 feet
>With an AR or AK
>With a 4x or higer scope
>Shoots 10 rounds and leaves
>If you talk to him he pretends to be an expert in all things miitary
>Works in accounting
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>>28873950

Nope. It is worse than rap in my opinion, and I hold rap at the same level as bloody oversized shits that tear open your ass as they come out.
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>>28874267
>he doesn't like rap either
Wow, what kind of deep, thoughtful music do you listen to?
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>>28874138
God damn it, I was about to post some cowboy music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AORVdW_6Gpo

So I'll add some Hank Williams to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXYjm74WFI

This is some real country music. I really do hate what country music has become (effectively pop music).
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People who badmouth other men's firearms. It's like saying rude things about his wife.
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http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB8D6053BDD04FD1B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ntJzX6Zcg&list=PL89XK8DU19C0tdQlATWIx3qc6SlLh_VOb
https://youtu.be/3hrfjSaW8TQ
https://youtu.be/9beutmfcs8Q
https://youtu.be/OhEHB0a7Uyg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIO4dbq5Iyg&list=PLBdTXIUzFAdEzhhOsOvdtGt_jMluytM95
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>>28874267
>doesn't like rap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY

I'll admit, rap was taken over as party music almost entirely about sluts and drugs, but there's an entire swathe of great rap out there, much like country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyDjRd0Tjss
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https://youtu.be/CwYrLaDw6Tw
https://youtu.be/8UJXACKRMlw
https://youtu.be/jdQYzEc6wYw
https://youtu.be/wsDHOMmXjFY
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>>28874428
>but there's an entire swathe of great rap out there
This applies to most genres, really
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>>28873342
Why not just advocate for .22lr handguns then? Shootability isn't the only factor.
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>>28874428
>"rap"

I take it that you also enjoy guitar music right too?
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>>28873001
>barack HUSSEIN obama

fucking this. If my middle name was Minh I'd never hear the end of Vietnam fucking shits jokes
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>>28873065
.45 ACP is fine, but 9mm is objectively better.
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>>28874611
At this point, I just assume they mean hip hop with lyrics because everyone just calls it rap, sadly.
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>>28874611
>>28874629
The line between older hip hop and rap is really blurry, especially in the late 70's and early 80's. If you look at Grandmaster Flash, the techniques he invented and popularized, such as quick mixing, punching (and we know that nigger rap these days thrives off punching), and scratching (though he didn't invent it, just perfected it), made rap in the later 80's and 90's what it was. Also, lots of the original music Flash created ended up being sampled by tons of rap artists later on.

I admit the Mr Wendall was a long shot for rap, though. Its firmly in the hip-hop realm.
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>Mossy Oak
>Real Tree
>Hunting camo on fucking everything including phone cases and ladies underwear
>Apparently having "enough ammo for a small army" when you have a stockpile of more than 2000 rounds
>Zombie apocalypse memes
>Having to frequently encounter fudds (far more prevalent a specimen here in Canada where gun culture is mostly fudd hunters)
>My buddy who's a cop/soldier/faggot says this so you're wrong
>Any product that advertises making an operator out of you
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Uh oh, looks like I got some country-loving inbreds and rap-loving dindus upset.

Oh no.
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>>28874899
I was both
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>>28874833
I don't mind most fudds, except for the:
>no one needs a semi auto, a real man only needs one shot to drop a deer

I hope they get drunk and ND into their foot
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>>28872180
"Good guy with a gun" dipshits.

Owning a gun does not magically make you superman. It takes training, situational awareness, and hours of practice and mastery of your firearm to do anything other then make you a target. In an active shooter situation, an untrained defender is merely the first one dead.

Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7_b6DsZe2Y

Now, if you want to arm yourself, fine, but don't be a douche and think that having a Glock makes you a superhero now. Get the training, put in the work, and learn to handle combat stress, otherwise your just as likely to panic shoot at random bystanders as any criminals.
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>>28874313
Man, that version of Riders in the Sky gives even Johnny's version a run for its money
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>>28873070
500 rounds of a cartridge that has put uncountable amounts of humans in the grave sitting in a gatorade bottle

I get what you're saying but you have to admit thats efficient.
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>>28875528
I have around 200 rounds in a resealable Hillshire Farms ham container.
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>>28875528
>>28875554
I don't see why .22 wouldn't be a great SHTF round. Small, generally quiet (especially so if you get a suppressor and are firing subsonic), good for hunting small game (potentially larger game if you don't mind blasting a dozen into a deer), and for killing people (somewhat similar situation as the deer).
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>>28873830
i'm semi bear mode from birth and has tried to get into ottermode for 9 years, now I just looked big as fuck but still have flabby semi abs, just fuck my life up
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>>28874203
>keeping your booger hook off the bang lever

this is exactly what I hate about the gun culture, that fucking vernacular is purely concentrated, highly refined cringe, you're not a drill instructor from 1953 you dont need to say stuff like that friendarino.
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>>28872180
>Pretentious assholes who make it their sole duty to shit on others because of their taste in firearms/the price of firearms they own
>Le AR is unreliable
>Le 5.56 was designed to wound
>Birdshot is good for home defense
>Tryhard tactifags
>Tryhard RIFLE IS FINE memers
>Zombie bullshit
>Fudds
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>>28874226
my favorite people in the gun range are the weekend warrior guys in suits who plink their .22 and then an hour in pull out their NFA full auto AR and start tearing shit up while talking about some cunt from work.
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>>28875554
post that ham
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>>28875414
I prefer the Roy Rogers version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuAxm_02fw0
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>>28873896
III%er crap? It's better than fuckin moldy labia.
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>>28873715

>its old so its irrelevant

stay mad 45 fag
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>>28872722
>>28872899
Virginia also, have seen this several times. Annoys the shit out of me.
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Guns shows man

My friend thought he was joking but I said "No... you don't know these kind of people the way I do..."
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>>28876048
This too lol
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>>28875920
3 percenters and moldy labia folks are both retarded. The time for revolution came long ago, but the people who wave the gadsden flag and put bumper stickers on their shit are never going to revolt, because their answer will forever be "it's not bad enough yet".
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>>28872721
>>28872899

If I ever move to virginia and see this shit I swear I will bring my DD-214 to the sale and act surprised when they won't take my "good guy papers".
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>>28876451
They want good guy papers, not welfare queen papers.
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>>28876451
yea I met a "make up model" at a bar here in richmond and she bought me like 6 shots of tequila and then took me to her ratty car, she proceeded to curb her car and bust a tire and then pass out completely so I had to call 911 and had to deal with va's finest thinking it was a failed roofie attempt, once they found out I just got out of the corps of mariners they started bro'ing with me, I know its welfare queenish but i'll take 4 years of gayness in order to be buddy buddy with the people who can throw beat me and jail me legally.
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fudds and casuals
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>>28872998
Drones are annoying as fuck.
I can honestly see why.
However the FEMA death camp guys are idiots.
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>>28876401
Who put you in charge of the criteria and time table of anything? Fuck off faggot.
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>>28875595
>potentially larger game if you don't mind blasting a dozen into a deer

FYI for the uninitiated, the Deer will be bleeding and halfway into the next county by the time you get the third round off from your 10/22.

Pic related is the proper and humane way to dispatch a Deer using an appropriate cartridge, the humble and venerable .308
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>>28877440
You're a boiling frog, m8. If you don't understand why there should already have been a revolution, you will never revolt.

Protip: tyranny will never again look like jackboots marching down the street. Governments learned their lesson in the former half of the 20th century. The new age of tyranny is far more subtle, far more gradual; Huxley's tyranny is far more effective than Orwell's. Those who bluster about muh moldy labia have nothing to fear; there won't be a mass confiscation. Just a thousand little "common-sense" laws eroding gun rights, the same as has happened with all other rights.

You really think the founding vision of the federal government was the bloated monstrosity that it is today? That agency after agency was intended to spring into existence, all on the trillions of the taxpayer's (or more commonly, borrowed) dime? That people's money be reduced to worthless paper, and their wealth continually devalued at the whim of any bureaucrat in Washington?

Face it, you're never going to revolt because no matter what, you'll convince yourself that things are "good enough". The criteria you have will never be met, because the government is not that stupid.
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>>28872180
>what about the firearms culture slightly annoys you?

1. Other people at the range. Best case scenario, they're taking forever on their rounds and no one can go cold because they're fucking still shooting. Worst case scenario, Jimmy 13 year old is muzzle sweeping the entire firing line with daddy's .30-06 because Mr. Jimmy can't teach his son the most basic of fucking safety principles.

2. Buying a gun. I could fucking write an essay on the pawn shops I've been in and the shit I've seen. Dudes sitting on mountains of gear and product marked up to the fucking sky, all so they can give you $50 off on a gun they marked up $300 so some dumbchit noguns feels like they're getting a deal. Dudes trying to incite panic buying. Dudes pushing some POS on someone because it's in stock and they don't want to order the gun the customer wants. Fucking so much more...

3. Gun "owners." Here's a protip: Your fucking amazing WHATEVER YOU BOUGHT isn't doing shit all good sitting unloaded in the closet. For fuck's sake.

4. Long distance shooters for more reasons to list than I have characters left in this post. I'll give one: The stupid fucking notion that people can hit a fucking milk jug or somesuch shit at 1000 yards (or even 500 yards) with any kind of remote reliability or accuracy without putting themselves in the optimal condition, scope dope, off a bench, in a vise, with their special lucky charm spinning 3 degrees to the left when they pull the trigger - fucking whatever - and moreover the notion that such a thing makes them in any remote way, a "Sniper."
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>>28877575
22 is fine, as long as it's the right 22
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>>28872180
>CHP
california highway patrol?
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>>28872180
>what about the firearms culture slightly annoys you?

Anything and everything zombie-related. It was OK until suddenly it touched all the things.
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>>28874146
>>retards that give into instant gratification and buy cheap shitty guns then later force others to make the same decisions as they did

Fucking this, although it's slightly personal for me.

>Friend is constantly buying his shit on impulse and then recommending it to others.
>He's like a Mormon on a constant mission to have others repeat his shit mistakes.
>Current arsenal
>Hi point in 9mm
>Star Model Super B
>Wasr
>Npap
>DPMS oracle
>Mosin Nagant
>K31
>Some shitty looking shotguns and bolt actions.
>Has managed to convince two poor souls that a Hi Point is a good first gun
>mfw my neighbor was thinking about getting one after talking to him.

The worst part is that he fucks around with his guns for only a couple of months before he moves on to something else, then just lets them collect dust.
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>>28872180
The omnipresent lardasses.

I don't mean just your average 40yo guy with a spare tire kind of gut, I mean fat like I have to wonder how these guys tie their shoes or wipe their asses.

Shooting's kind of a sedentary sport, but goddamn, how do you get that fat?

>>28873896
Yeah the macho bullshit is really cringey, especially since it's never actual mil or ex-mil guys, it's fucking cops and mall ninjas.

Stupid 45acp vs 9mm "debate" needs to die, it's even stupider than Furd vs Chebby.
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>>28872180
how most all gun hobbyists fit the stereotypes that liberals put on gun hobbyists

/k/ is by far no exception and is probably one of the worst offenders.
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>>28878039
which aspects of the stereotype do you not fulfil?
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>>28872180
What annoys me the most is the myopia I often see in gun culture. Gun owners tend to feel as though guns are the only useful weapons in the world and are quick to forget that a blade or blunt weapon, while not always suitable for today's battlefields, are just as deadly today as they were when they were invented.
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>>28878068
I'm not fat for one
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>>28877714
I shoot long range, but I fucking agree with you 100%. I can ring steel at 600 yards pretty well but it took a lot of practice, a lot of time sitting at my reloading bench, and I'm well aware that if its slightly blustery, I'm shooting at a shitty angle, or from an uncomfortable position-my accuracy and precision drop like a rock.

I fucking hate dickbags that talk about how "I can make a headshot at 500 yards" when their gun was in a sled, they had someone build their $2000 rifle with a $3000 optic on it and forget to mention the 10 rounds they shot off before hand.

Also the term sniper makes me grind my teeth.
>"I wanna build a sniper rifle"
>"its a bolt action so it would make a great sniper rifle right?"
>"I snipe targets in grandpappys backyard with my .22"
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>>28878084
wow, what an achievement. I'm not sure size is even in the american stereotype for gun users, since the media steriotype is of a scary dangerous person, which fat people clearly are not.
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>>28878104
>wow, what an achievement.
angry fatty detected.

The general stereotype of a gun hobbyist is the appearance of a loser or undesirable. You guys do a great job at looking like that and giving the rest of us a bad name.
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>>28878129
I'm about 20 lbs overweight, but I'm alright. I'm still unsure how you think you differ from the stereotype. So you're not fat, good job, you've done the bare minimum necessary, and you haven't really differentiated your ideals or actions from the stereotype in any way.
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>>28878170
>I'm about 20 lbs overweight,
>but I'm alright
>20 lbs
>alright

Reminds me of another gripe I have with the gun community. I know leftists love tossing around 'penis compensation' and all that, but considering how a good chunk of us actually fit the bill of what a loser looks like, being a gun hobbyist for a lot of people is an attempt at making up for your lack of masculinity.

Stop being fat. Act like a man, look like a man, and shoot guns so you can give us a good rep.
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>>28875733

fuck off
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>>28878229
20 lbs is a pretty safe range for healthy, having no body fat is actually worse for you. you sure are fucking dumb.
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>>28873212
I have a huge hatred for people who use iwb holsters then tuck their shirt behind the gun I've even seen people with hoodies do this shit
It's like they want everyone to know they're carrying to feel like a bad ass.
They seem to be the type that want confrontations. All that I see do this are kids in their early twenties or so.
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>>28878257
> having no body fat is actually worse for you. you sure are fucking dumb.
yeah, because a person with no body fat is called dead.

Also I know you're e-stating that '20' lbs. Close your mouth half way through eating.

Stop being a numale
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>>28878283
you're assuming quite a lot, but you can think whatever you want. I'm healthy. Your own insecurity speaks volumes.
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>>28878229
>stop being fat
Are you aware that, demographically by average, Republicans are skinnier and more physically fit than Democrats? Or that Republicans are empirically more likely to own firearms? Or that the average Democrat is more than 50lbs overweight (Republicans average about 21lbs overweight...yeah, the majority of the US is fat)? Or that Republicans are 300% less likely to be the recipients of government welfare (as assessed against WIC, SSDI, SNAP, EBT, and Section 8) compared to Democrats?
>less than 50% of Americans are democrats (roughly 41% Republican, roughly 43% Democrat, and roughly 16% either non-disclosed or third-party)
>85% of all government aid money goes to registered Democrats, with less than 1% of government aid money going to third-party/undeclared
Ban democrats, improve the US
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>>28878296
>overweight by "20" lbs
>healthy

This is what I honestly hate about the gun community. Gun owners are completely normal fine people including people that stand up for the 2nd amendment, but too many gun hobbyists are autismo losers
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>>28878084
>only one person in the picture is thinner than me, and it's a bad trap

I'm not sure if this is a /k/ stereotype, as much as it is a gender stereotype.
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>>28878317
>20 lbs is a health problem
yes, you are an autismo loser, you have made that clear.
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>>28878349
We both know that it's more than 20lbs
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>>28878360
I'm going to assume you're projecting like a fucking IMAX right now.
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>>28878385
you conform to the stereotype that liberals give us and are proud about it

Rethink where you're going with this
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>>28878397
Is that you? My gut doesn't overhang anything. I have to admit, it would make CCW easier. CCW as a skellington is all hard edges and printing.
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>>28878418
>is that you?
now who is projecting?

Get iron pilled and stop being a numale loser. Seriously. Why can't you just be normal or upstanding? You give liberals more ammo for them to throw at us.
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>>28878438
I think you don't totally understand the concept of projection, or why it's so obvious that you are. But this is still entertaining, do continue.
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>>28878453
>I think you don't totally understand the concept of projection, or why it's so obvious that you are
I just think I've pressed the right buttons which is why you're so invested in replying back to me
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>>28878471
>I've pressed the right buttons which is why you're so invested in replying back to me
I feel the same way.
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>>28875341
>It takes training, situational awareness, and hours of practice and mastery of your firearm


Outside of being competent and comfortable with you firearm, what training are you talking about? What constitutes situational awareness?
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I really hate the ads in trade magazines.

The always feature some guy with a tacticool pistol in front of a scared looking family(always in pajamas) with a flashlight and an overhead blurb that says something like

"When you only have seconds"
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>>28877575
>doesn't know about people poaching blacktail with .22 short
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>>28872899
>>28875963
757 here.
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>>28878648
You mean the one fucking FN ad? I've literally never seen another ad like you've described and I have a lot of trade mags.
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>>28878257
20lbs overweight is not the same thing as having no body fat. BMI is a function of weight, height, and age, and doesn't take into consideration body fat percentage. However, most people who fall into the "overweight" category have higher body fat contributing to their higher weight:height ratio, rather than more muscle (although this is possible; super-jacked bodybuilders can be overweight according to the BMI, purely because of their muscle mass).

If we take an appropriate body fat percentage to be anywhere from 10-20%, you are most likely over. Stop living in denial, fats. The nice part is that you don't even need to move a muscle in order to lose that fat; just stop stuffing your face with burgers so much and maintain a caloric deficit until you hit your desired weight. Easy peasy, no sweating at the gym required.
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>>28875959
Actually, I'm a bigger fan of .357, but whatever.

Only a triggered ass 9mm fag would this get offended over being told the best caliber is the one you're good with
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>>28874569
It's not, but I'd say it's the biggest factor. If you're better with .40 then you are 9mm, it's the best round for you to CC in my opinion.

I'm just a lowest anon though. These are just my thoughts
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>ccw required
>for a rifle
I hate Armslist. It's like /k/ on autism overload.
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Furries.
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>>28878257
nobody has no body fat, 20 lbs over your BMI is no bueno unless you're a stocky rugby player or bodybuilder
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>>28878956
are you serious m80? I've never owned a firearm mag but I remember when I was noguns I would flip through them and saw plenty of those types of ads
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>>28878942
since we're talking about virginia and armslist I want to say fuck "hampton roads" and I fucking hate how every firearm i've ever been interested in every since i've browsed armslist va has been in stupid ass fucking piece of human shit hampton roads., its like richmond hates guns or something.
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>>28878515
It means not being a blind retard and knowing what's happening around you, but mall ninjas who think they can easily and swiftly incapacitate any enemy like to spout "muh situational awareness" as if it's some finely-honed operator skill
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>>28878956
HA! You recognized it. Yeah I meant the FN ad, but really, most of them look the same.
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>>28872180
/k/ """"traps""""
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>>28875733
>implying this is only in gun culture
You see this everywhere.
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>>28875595
Subsonic .22 would hurt marginally more than a plastic bb
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>>28879325

Yeah God Damn. It's well past the point where it's plausibly a joke, and frankly it would be annoying of it were an actual woman doing it, too. Go to /lgbt/ or /soc/ if you want to indulge in exhibition fantasies. It doesn't help that they all tend to look like Tomoko from Watamote in a purely negative sense, but that's not my primary complaint.

In other news, it's funny seeing people get bent out of shape when the gripes in this thread hit too close to home. It's ok guys, the first step is admitting you have a problem.

As for the gun community generally, I guess, I just wish people just practice personal hygiene and basic safety procedures, live and let live on matters of taste, and not be toxic assholes.
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>>28872180
>morbidly obese people who talk tactics (or about surviving the apocalypse) because they own an AR or AK

Bitch, you can bareley walk to the c store down the street, how the fuck you gonna fight?

>people who dont know jack shit about guns thinking they are some kind of weaponry historian/gunsmith/ballistics expert because they own a few. (Say something flat out wrong and then doggedly defend it)

Real life example from a real life gun owner: yeah, you actually gotta aim the 30.06 LOW at 500+ yards cuz after that the bullet rises.

Wtf? No it doesnt!!!


YES HUH! it goes slower than the sound barrier and generates lift and starts gliding, so it rises! I should know, I own an m1 garand!

(Demonstrate he is wrong a week later innawoods while shooting)

Nuh uh! (Examines my ammo) yup. These are hollow points, the cavity in front negates the lift so it doesnt glide.
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>>28878099
This.
"I live innawoods, if anyone comes towardsomy house threateningly I'll just casually headshoot em one by one at 800 yards with my .300 winchester mag"

Bruh, ya hold a 6 inch group at 300 yards with that thing. Can the gun do it? Yes. Can you? No.
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>>28877670
No really fuck off faggot.
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im in a lot of facebook shooting groups and one thing which fucks me off to no end is the smug cunts who try and act superior for pointing out anything wrong with whatever someones doing in a picture. "Hurr durr you shouldnt have the action closed cos no way to know if its loaded or not" i know my shotguns empty because the content of both shells are now inside this fox im holding, its been cleared and is now pointed in a safe direction.

Also fuck fudds, it blows my mind how people with a lifetime of experience in shooting can be so ignorant and have absolutely no idea what theyre talking about. So many times ive heard something along the lines of "hurr durr they dont make guns like they used to" while looking at a cheap ass savage axis or something in the cheapest configuration
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>>28872180

Just about everything. I hate talking about guns unless it's with my close friends because you never know who you're going to get. The likelihood that the other guy won't make you regret starting the conversation is low. But maybe I'm just being too negative about it.

I guess if there's one thing especially it's gun stores staffed by people older than 50. If you appear to be under 30 and aren't dressed in brand name camo clothing you get ignored and if a customer walks in who is also over 50 they will talk forever and you're better off coming back tomorrow.
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>>28877892
>K31
>Star Model Super B
>shit

I mean the Star Model B isn't some top of the line super gun but you get a great gun considering the usual asking price and the K31 is a great investment if nothing else seeing as prices are just going to go up.
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>>28873520
I got a Makarov for sale if you're in the Dallas area.
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People acting like they are eagerly waiting for someone to break in so they can legally kill him and vent off their pent up frustration.
Makes it hard to say things like "gun owners aren't actually bloodthirsty" with a sraight face.
We all have fantasies where we get to use our guns and save the day, but going around babbling about it doesn't help.


Gun owers thinking that because you are pro guns, you must also fit with all their right wing, conservatives ideas.
Yeah faggot I'm very pro guns, and yet I'm not homophobic, anti abortion, christian, capitalist and climate skeptic. Stop acting like it's impossible, and no I'm not the reincarnation of fucking Stalin.
Fortunately all gun people and medias aren't like that and some try to appeal to a wider audience.
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>>28878999

>implying bantz = asspained
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>>28873001

Yeah, that's basically a person hoping shtf so they can play hero
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>>28874203

Ever notice how the whole trigger discipline thing has become a means of inexperienced losers to act like they actually know what they are talking about?
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>>28881065
You just described any meme on 4chan.
It starts out as a joke, then gets beat to death by newfags and shitposters who are trying to fit in.
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>>28873322
i got everything except the strong accent and the chew. WHY DO YOU HATE ME ANON??!!?
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Lasers. Lasers fucking piss me off.
>go to range
>set up targets
>about to start shooting
>guy two lanes over has his fucking laser on my target
>he than begins to bumpfire his shitty omni hybrid pistol
>laser goes fucking everywhere
>all over my target when he's not shooting
>he puts his gun down on the bench behind the lanes, with the laser still on
I fucking hate lasers.
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>>28881397
this. Visible lasers are only good to see if you are flinching when you dry fire your weapon
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>>28872180
I dont like how other gun owners talk down to me and insist on teaching me how to use my own fucking guns when I go to the range alone. Im like a butch looking woman too.

Like last range trip I had a young 20-something yro dude with a glock ask me if I need any help loading magazines or if it's "my first time here."

I am like a repeat customer at that range too. This happens all the time.
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>>28874129
I'll sell you a mak for 500 if you live in dfw
;^)
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>>28880395
ebin 10/10 :DDDD
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>>28872998
>passive agressive
>performing a real action with immediate results
?
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>>28873623
doesn't work
in his same situation 1/100 people will sell to someone under 21
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>>28877892
I guess I'm just the luckiest fucker when it comes to HiPoint as much as I see people shit on them. 4 years in and mine has jammed less than 10 times. Never had a misfire or fail to fire either. Pinning the blame on cheap ammo I bought for plinking.
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>>28878257
Health at every size. That's what you're saying. Fuck off, fat ass.
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>>28878039
In my experience out side of the fudds, no one I know fits this stereotype. We are quite literally a bunch of faggot hipsters who carry and get tacticool at the range with our ebil salt rifles.
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>Mention gun control and how Obama's being an idiot about it
>That one fucking guy who just goes on about Obama for hours
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>>28878942
Aye 757 odu reporting
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>>28879227
Richmond is all hipsters and gang members
Also fuck you too
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>>28878257
LOOK AT THE FATTY. LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH.
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The word "tactical" on fucking everything.
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>>28878453
Tip that fedora harder, boy.
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>>28876048
>people who sell wallhanger swords at gun shows
>that guy who has been to the same gunshows with the same gun for the past 5 years and refuses to drop the price
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>>28873374
Me too anon.

It ruined my life :(
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>>28877979
Thankfully shooting is quickly turning into a moving sport.
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>>28872180
the people who are furthest from being operators, LEOs, or soldiers trying so hard to be tactical
>running and gunning through a mock SEAL shootout you build yourself
>doing shooting videos in full military fatigues
>doing torture tests on guns
>If I can dunk this pistol in muddy ice water nd then beat it against a brick wall it might as well be a flintlock
its just fucking cringy to me. nothing wrong with training or making sure your gun is well made but for Christ sake you playing navy seal in your back yard on youtube
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>>28885266
>running and gunning through a mock SEAL shootout you build yourself
Good goy, everybody knows you don't need to train with your guns, that's what we have police and military for.
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>>28885526
This.

You need to train faggot get off your ass and use your fucking tools you made need them for their intended purpose one day.
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>>28885550
couldn't make it in the army so now you run around in your backyard in old surplus outfits, huh?
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>>28880395
lel u got rekt m8
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>>28885266

I think the more cringworthy thing is the YouTube part. It's one thing to pretend to be a action movie operator as a manchildish guilty pleasure, but that's something people (should) keep to themselves.
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>>28885635
i was in the army fucking queer

lol I am so sick of you faggots please get the fuck out. you dont deserve to call yourself a fucking gun owner if you dont use and train with your fucking guns
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>>28873374
UC bro here,
i take vitamin D3 & probiotics daily & just watch what you eat.
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>>28885768
Thank you for your service
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>>28885768
nice to see pogs still fancy themselves as deltas
go play in your home made obstacle course doing completely useless maneuvers and making your neighbors avoid you
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>walk into gun store in Canada
>bunch of tatooed up guys
>0 women except the occasional shop clerk
>either fat or beefed up
>wearing camo in a fucking store
>have rude looking rough face
It's like I'm in a bar.
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>>28876473
Right.
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>>28885867
>pogs
11b
try again. btw you really shouldnt call anyone a POG if you have never served a day in your life.

nice argument faggot. its called training with your weapons? I guess people who know how to actually drive their cars are stupid too?
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>>28885912
you sound awfully upset
why do you go for a run and gun through your obstacle course and impress your neighbors
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>>28872180
People who have guns just to threaten people.
Y'know, people who's default argument to anything is "I can shoot you. Right now. Nothing personal, kid."
Might just be in my area, but hot damn are they fucking everywhere here. They want to go out western-style, I guess.
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>>28885768
>army fucking queer
you sure are
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Glock fanboys who wanto to blow Gaston.
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>>28874189
Depends on the song. He needs that strong bass that Waylon has.
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>>28885976
>People who have guns just to threaten people.
That's half the board, you realize.
All the /pol/fags here bought their guns to shoot the niggers, jews, mudslimes, chinks, illegals, Commies, Stormfags, Yankees, Johnnies, terrorists, and/or liberals.
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>>28886097
Oy vey this post
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What I hate about gun "culture" is the absolutely unreal amount of snake oil products and general low quality shit pumped out by the most unscrupulous salesmen ever. And what I don't fucking get is people buy this shit up.
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>>28886153
Because a good deal of people lack skepticism and critical thinking skills. This kind of shit isn't limited to the gun industry, it's everywhere.
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>>28885768
>i was in the army fucking queers
fixed
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>>28886232
Hey, someone had to prove a point.
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>>28885881
MY INFORMATION MIGHT BE OF USE TO YOU
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>>28872180
mine is all double think
>CC REVOLVERS REQUIRE HEAVY TRIGGERS
>THIS CC GLOCK TRIGGER NEEDS TO BE LIGHTER
>If the slide does not lock back it is shit
>durr slingshot is better
>non chromeline is shit
>except this ak
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>>28878438

> Ride the Tiger: A Survival Manual for Aristocrats of the Soul

What is an "aristocrat of the soul"? Why does such a person need a survival manual? What unique threats do they face in today's society?

I have questions, anon. So man questions.
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>>28875528
Also
>380 shit
>5.56 shit
>9mm shit
>.22 best cartridge ever
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>>28877670
you're right, but they've done a good job of making us isolated, to the point where social and tactical organization is near impossible over the internet, and not enough people meet in bars (where meeting would be through facebook groups anyway that will be labeled terrorist groups)
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>>28872180

The very thing that transpired on this thread.

>I was in the military, motherfuckers! That validates my dumbass opinions!
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>>28885550
>>28885526

I think there is a line between practicing and really working yourself up into a fantasy about what you are doing.

I'm not going to talk a bunch of shit in case he uses this site but my buddy who hasn't ever been in the military (or even ROTC) comes to the range in full woodland BDUs every time. Genuinely believes he is going to justifiably shoot someone at some point in his life because he dosen't understand statistics. Talks a bunch of shit about how he can't wait to see how gangbangers take suppressive fire and bounding overwatch because he read Punisher MAX.

Not a bad dude but also thinks Call of Duty and Magpul videos have given him nerves of steel.
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>>28873028
that's wrong though. a background check is just that, a check. It is not presumption or accusation of guilt
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>gun store employees why try to steer you away from something you want, when you've done your research
>300 pound tubs of lard who think they operate because they own a bunch of guns
>people who think OCing an AR somehow furthers our cause (especially when they're mouthbreathers itching to get in a verbal confrontation)
>manufacturers trying to appeal to females by making KEWT PINK GUNZ OMG TRENDY
>people who take nogunz to the range and load up 3.5" magnum buck in their 12gauge because "lol the person who isn't familiar with guns had a bad time"
>people who point guns at you and say "lol it's not loaded/lol the safety's on though"
i will slap your shit
>people who can't make an argument for gun ownership beyond "muh rights"
or
> people who think responding with ad hominems or incoherent screaming proves their point
>/pol/acks who insist their shit is welcome on /k/
>>28879394
>people who think .22 will not fuck your shit up
>the NRA with it's alarmist, aimed at the lowest common denominator, 4th grade reading level garbage
i seriously hate that they are the biggest dog in the fight
>those who tell newguns they don't need earpro if they shoot outside
>people who look like they walked right out of a anti gun political cartoon
>unironically using the term "sheeple" or "obummer"
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>>28880759
>the second thing
THIIIIIS
i'll talk guns with people and all of a sudden they launch into all that "obummers a kenyan, bill o'reilly said, it's adam and eve not adam and steve" tier garbage.
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>>28885526
people who unironically say "good goy"
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>>28872753
> MOLDY LABIA
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>>28872180
Elitism, and over seeing the concept of cost effective.
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>>28887251
moron labia, heil clitler
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>>28886415
That was a bad raid.
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>>28878942
NoVAfag here. Never ever heard this shit from my LGS, and I spent a summer working there.
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>>28878972
Truth I lost 50lbs by just not eating so much. Never went to the gym or anything.
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>>28881675
Or neckbeard fatbodies trying to le tip fedora at anything with tits.
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>>28886493
Not him, but read it anon. It's good.
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>>28887260
This
"Oh, its the $1,200(regular joe style variant), not the $3,000 (uber delux premium package), you must be poor and unable to afford EFFECTIVE guns"

Just proves how fucking dumb somebody is when they try to associate cost with effectiveness, or make the 4th grade level assumption that because something isnt the BEST it must be the worst.
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>>28889550
Yeah, paying more for quality is fine with me, I don't have a problem with richfags spending their money well. But the belief that because something costs more it's necessarily better, is not always correct.
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>>28879181
BMI is a fucking stupid measurement anyway. Useless unless being applied to large populations, it fails to account for people with large amounts of muscle mass and low body fat. Just measure Body Fat levels or look in the mirror to see what you need to do.
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>>28872180
>Women who plaster shit all over social media about how they carry just as an excuse to take and post a direct ass shot
>Creeper beta orbiters who give aforementioned women the attention they crave
>Tweaker wiggers who own 5-6 shit-tier Saturday night special type guns treat them like they're precious, irreplaceable Faberge eggs
>Fat mallninjas who inexplicably have more money to spend on gun shit than I do and invariably have unicorn-rare shit that they proceed to shoot very badly
>Roidhead tryhards who treat every interaction with other human beings as if they are competing for slots in a hierarchy because having fun at the range is stupid, apparently
>Gun store employees who come to work wearing competitive shooter swag and look down at you for not being an autistic sperg, while simultaneously appearing nowhere on any ranking lists in the area
>Old guys who don't think muzzle-sweeping is a big deal "because my finger isn't on the trigger"
>LEOs who talk a big fucking game about how they wouldn't enforce "unconstitutional gun control" but who spend their entire day at the range mean-mugging everyone with an AR or AK
>Really LEOs in general, actually, fuck them, they're annoying about everything, not just guns
>ND apologists
>Brass vultures
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>>28890447
>Fat mallninjas who inexplicably have more money to spend on gun shit than I do and invariably have unicorn-rare shit that they proceed to shoot very badly

Its easy to do actually. See, once they move back in with thier parents all of thier income is disposable income!

(Although I suspect most of it is debt)
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>>28889550
>>28889616
Case in point. An plate carrier (or rather "armor chassis") for fucking $1650. Plates and "plate bags" not included.

https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/armc4902lg0_cage-armor-chassis
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>>28872180
Absolutely fucking nothing.
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>>28872180
Conspiracy theorists
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>>28873065
How in the fuck did you transform

>people who shit on 9mm

into

>other cartridges are shit

You're a fucking idiot.
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>>28875629
I feel the feel
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>>28890447
LEOs i know are cool as shit...
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The dangerous lunatics.
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>>28878438
>>28886493
That is one of the worst book lists I have ever seen. This is the shit numale faggots and mgtow retards read so they can feel like they're finally men.
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