Gonna get a Mosin today. Hopefully a M44. What should I look out for?
>>28856949
Germans.
>>28856949
Look down the barrel and make sure it doesn't look like a rusted out pipe.
Other than that nothing really.
>>28856957
Good point!
>>28856957
5/5
>>28856949
Worn down or counter-bored muzzle crowns, cracks or splits in the stock, missing parts like the cartridge interrupter... and bring a white led flashlight to check the barrel for worn out rifling or rust.
To anyone with a finish mosin is it worth paying more for one?
I have a polish m44 should I just buy more ammo for that instead?
>>28857156
its only worth it if you can inspect it first
being finnish doesnt stop it from being a piece of shit thanks to decades of abuse
i actually prefer my 91/30 over the m39
the m39 is smoother with better sights but the stocks all kinds of fucked up and ridiculously expensive to replace normal aftermarket wont fit it without a shitload of modifications cause of the barrel profile
>>28857192
are we being trolled?
>>28857236
its fucking surplus always inspect surplus before buying
>>28857252
referring more to the m39 shit talking
>>28857276
maybe i should have been more specific
im not saying all m39 stocks are fucked up ergonomically
im saying the stock on my personal m39 is fucked up its got a large split at the wrist which is a fairly common issue and its quite impossible to get a replacement stock that doesnt cost more than the gun itself
>>28857276
its probably more that he's talking about a particularly good 91/30 and a kind of fucked up m39, I doubt he means in general
>>28857334
Okay. Yes, that sucks. A lot. But if you can find someone who is good a woodworking it should be repairable.
Wasn't there a really detailed info graph buying guide?
>>28857494
Not for mosins as far as I know. That would have to be a really long infograph with all the variations that are out there.
Does anyone know if there are any authentic obrez pistols left outside of museums?
The most important thing to check is the bore. Check to make sure it's not pitted, dark, counter bored, etc. One thing I would recommend is pick up some 7.62x54r dummy rounds and feel how they cycle in the gun, checking if it's hard to close on a round, etc.
Also maybe bring a trigger pull gauge. My 91/30 has a rather nice 5lb trigger pull but some people get Mosins with supper shitty triggers that pull like 10lbs.
All else fails,
>http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinFAQ.htm
There is nothing effectively wrong with counter bored mosins.
OP here. Went to 3 different gun shops and nobody had one. Well one did but it was $700.
Apparently Obama stopped the import of Russian guns. Or so said the gun shop dudes.
>>28857999
>Well one did but it was $700.
That better of been a Sniper Mosin
>>28857999
>Obama stopped the import of Russian guns.
Only Saigas and some others. For example Veprs are still imported and those are Russian made.
>>28856949
Moist Nugget
>Ctrl+f
>hex
>0/0
>tula
>0/0
Am I on the right /k/?
>>28857692
Probably floating around in Russia somewhere. I seriously doubt any were ever imported because of NFA.
The spring in the bullet hold will jam a lot apparently.
>>28858195
That's going to be a bitch then if I ever want to complete my collection lol.
>>28858233
Just Form 1 and saw down any 91/30.
>>28858237
For maximum correctness, it's gotta be an m91.
>>28857145
Counter-bore is not necessarily a bad thing - what it tells is that the muzzle crown had a problem and counter-bore method was used as attempt to fix it. If the worked the barrel might be as accurate as one that has excellent crown without counter-bore.
I would also dry fire the rifle a few times to see how trigger is (heavy, light, how much creep etc) and see if bolt moves while pressure is applied to trigger (it should not). Also check rifle stock for any visible damage (cracks in wood etc) and that rear ladder works. If there are several rifles of of the same model available, pick the best one. If available manufacturing quality-wise I would also select pre-1941 carbine m/38 over wartime/post-war carbine m/44 unless you absolutely want one with bayonet.
7.62x54r.net
OP here. I ended up getting an M44 on gun broker. Apparently it hasn't been opened or touched since it was imported. Did I fuck up?
>>28857252
Exactly - never buy surplus before checking them thoroughly. They are all used firearms and you do not know how previous owners treated them.
When it comes to Finnish-captured m/38 and m/44 they are much rarer than ones that were not captured and therefore at least some collectors are likely to pay more for Finnish-captured one. However Finnish military never had real interest towards captured m/38 and m/44 carbines and in fact during World War 2 lumped them both under the same designation - cavalry rifle m/30. And unlike with m/91-30 Finnish military apparently did not bother improving these carbines or making any replacement parts for them. Hence quality-wise Finnish-captured Soviet carbines typically are not quality-wise or action-wise better than the other Soviet carbines of similar model.
>>28856949
>>28858391
>>28858460
UNWRAP IT OP C'MON
>>28856949
Also hetruthaboutguns.com/2011/03/ralph/ralphs-guide-to-buying-your-first-mosin-nagant-9130/
How does this make mosin owners feel?
>>28858506
It looks like trash no matter how you slice it
I also can't fucking stand when someone takes off the extendo-bayonets and leaves the clamp on.
>>28858214
Usually only if loaded in incorrect manner. Rims of the cartridges have to be in correct arrangement - each cartridge must have its rim in front of the rim belonging to cartridge below it. This is not just for Mosin-Nagants but basically to all rifles that feed rimmed cartridges from a box magazine - fixed magazine or not.
Finnish-improved "jam free" (häiriövapaa) magazines used in m/28-30 and m/39 rifles are the most reliable of Mosin-Nagant breed.
>>28858433
People are willing to pay more for a Finn captured carbine not just because they are rare, but because they are typically not refurbished.
>>28858391
Could be hit or miss... You do not know for sure until you open the package and shoot the rifle.
Make sure it doesn't look like shit. Bore, wood, metal finish, everything.
>>28858391
wewlad
Just wew
>>28858481
I have to wait for it to ship.
>>28858548
Admitted - that is a valid point as well. The Soviets refurbished practically all their pre-war & wartime rifles in post-war era, which makes them less desirable to practically all collectors.
>>28858556
As long as there are no cracks in the wood and no severe pitting in the exposed metal, I personally like a battlefield pick up look. You know the rifle was used on a battlefield. Like this one.
>>28857999
do you live in NC and are you me? I swear ive heard the same story today from the dude at wolfpit tacticool in Morganton while looking for my own mosin. And he had a fucked up plasticfucked mosin for around 700.
>>28858590
Nope, not me man. I'm in Kentucky.
>>28858494
>Thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/03/ralph/ralphs-guide-to-buying-your-first-mosin-nagant-9130/
>>28857156
I greatly prefer my Polish M44 for the fireball, and the finish. It's also a better shooter than my 1929 hex.
>>28858722
Funny thing, my Type 53 feels like a better shooter than any other Mosin I've had. The action works better, it's more precise, the bore is like a mirror plus the rifling is very clean, even the wood feels stronger (except it's dented like it was dragged behind a truck for a day).
>>28856949
Don't buy a fucking nugget, OP. This is 2016 and nuggets are no longer cheap.
Nuggets are shit and have always been shit. Go buy a Savage Axis SP. You missed the meme. That goes for any of you lurker faggots thinking of buying an SKS, too. You missed out, they aren't cheap anymore. Go buy an AR.
>>28858812
If you can find a good Type 53 it's a good shooter.
>>28859982
This, especially for an SKS. When the best deal you'll find is a $300 Chink, the jig is up. You can find ARs for as cheap as the better SKS types now.
Unless you really like the SKS for collecting (and it's a collectors piece) they aren't worth it.
Nuggets are still worth it IMO. $200 is pushing their value pretty hard though. Once round 91/30s go for $250 it's over.
What if the M44 was never never issued and never fired?
>>28860596
That's called bullshit anon.
>>28858233
You have six options for an obrez:
[sbr, easy, common] get an approved form 1 and cut down an M91
[pistol, hard, common] deact and reweld the receiver
[pistol, moderate, rare/expensive] replace the receiver with a new one
[pistol, easy, super rare] cut down a barreled action that was NEVER put into a stock
[pistol, easy, super rare] find an original obrez
[rifle, easy, super easy] cut down a nugget to 16" and a hair
>>28858391
>>28858460
you're seriously going to post this shit and not show it unwrapped? fuck you anon.
>>28858506
Bolt actions are heavy enough, adding a sight and ammo pouch on the rear really don't help. If this is supposed to be useful then it doesn't look useful. Not a Mosin owner but I think most people realize the DMR role that a bolt gun can play instead of mallninja.
>>28861062
I don't have it yet anon. In a couple days when I can pick it up I will show all of you.
