http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/31075992/proposal-would-require-gun-insurance-firearm-renewals-every-5-years
> "I don't want to take people's guns away from them but I want people to take full responsibility," said Green, an emergency room physician at Kohala Hospital on the Big Island.
> Green likens the requirement to car insurance.
> "They have to pay insurance so that if they're in a collision and they hurt someone else who's an innocent bystander, it's covered. Just like with guns, if a gun falls into the wrong hands or if there's an accident, just an accident, it makes a lot of sense to me that we have that extra level of responsibility," Green said.
Seems his learning to become a Doctor dulled his common sense.
>>28713878
Car insurance is a fucking federally required scam
>>28713878
Little Socialist Island part 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Seriously though, Hawaii sucks dick. I can't really sympathize though. I imagine if you're wealthy enough to live good out there you could give less of a shit.
>>28713878
People who do sports should have liability insurance.
We should have walking insurance, that would come handy when someone UNWANTINGLY BUMPS INTO ME.
FUCKIG PISSES ME OFF
The comments section is gold:
> Isn't this the same guy who wants to make this a zero BAC for driving?
> Last time I will ever support this person. Ever.
> Who is running against this bum? I'll donate to his opponent next campaign. A doctor, huh? You sure? He's pretty stupid for a doctor.
> I will go out of my way to support who ever is running against this dope. I will never comply with this unlawful law. He will have a majority of gun owners committing civil disobedience.
>>28713878
There is literally no legal method of harming someone with a gun that is not covered by health insurance.
Literally the only thing that you could do is require people to pay for those injured by a negligent discharge.
Everything else is a misdemeanor or a felony.
Besides, you're over 200 times more likely to die in a car crash than die to a rifle.
>>28713878
People who liv in Hawaii have guns? I'm honestly surprised I thought they already got rid of gun ownership there.
>>28714116
I remember seeing a thing a few years back that other then golfing Japanese tourists love to rent or even buy guns too shoot in Hawaii and then sell them back before they leave.
>>28714110
>BAWWWWWW
Also no, it's gun control shit, get your shit right faggot.
It still goes to /pol/ but at least pull your head out of your ass far enough to get your blubbering correct.
>>28714126
Interesting, I heard so much anti-gun things before about Hawaii I assumed no one could own guns there.
>>28714130
I think that might be more recently. I wouldn't know 100% myself, never been there. Also it's like Japan, you can own guns there, but have too get a license, not as insanely tough too get as it is in most of yurocuck, but I think it's set up where only one day a month people can go too get one and you need a hospital mental test (nothing too extreme but like a normal doctors visit) do not know their stance on handguns though, but do know prostitution is basically legal there.
>>28714116
My father has a rifle and my mother has a pistol. Both in .22 though.
>>28713878
>>28714116
Hawaii is pretty much not American. The people there don't think they are Americans. They don't care about our Constitution. They don't care for our values
>>28714116
yeah we still live in grass huts too m8
every friday we have a big hukilau and feast while tossing white people into volcanoes.
>>28714167
>every friday we have a big hukilau and feast while tossing white people into volcanoes.
Stop doing that, you are causing climate change!
>>28714167
thought of Tom Hanks
>>28713878
I'd expect no less from the state that saw Obama be born.
>>28714110
Not /pol/ since it's gun related.
Otherwise, every goddamn mass causality event with guns would be /pol/ material.
>>28714110
Fag
>>28713878
Completely ignoring that car insurance is fucking worthless, government mandated shite? The last time I checked, nobody at the range was trying to make shots while talking on their fucking phone.
>>28713878
Wait... Hawaii has gun owners?
>>28713878
>Hawaii
To my 100th inf bros out there, keep up the struggle.
>>28713891
>except that 70% of the pop on Oahu is fucking military who hate it here
Only 2 more months till I PCS. FUCK. HAWAII
>>28713878
Gun insurance for what? None of us can fucking carry because we aren't connected enough.
>>28716097
That is correct Morty, there are gun owners that somehow beside the odds exist in a place that is controlled by correct government robots that will trample on their rights at any given notice.
>>28713878
>Seems his learning to become a Doctor dulled his common sense.
Well yeah, just look at Ben "The Pyramids were grain silos" Carson.
>>28713878
>Hawaii
Keep the lava niggers in check and there shouldn't be a problem.
>>28714201
It may be a gun control issue but gun control is still a political issue.
And these threads inevitably end up toxic anyway.
>>28716149
where u goin next? I have too much britbong and slav blood, that fucking island is too fucking hot
>>28713887
Car insurance isn't federally required.
If this passes, I fucking guarantee that the state will use it's regulatory power over insurance to make it too expensive for normal people to afford.
Essentially becoming a defacto ban on private firearm ownership.
>>28716867
It'll be overturned on appeal.
>>28716886
in the years between the law getting enacted and courts throwing it out. all the legal gun owners in hawaii will either dispose of their firearms or get them seized.
So anti gun still wins.
Currently in Hawaii now and it sucks dick.
The people are the worst and treat the land and everyone on it like shit. They're disgusting desu.
And to purchase a fire arm I have to make 3 separate trips to the PD, 2 to my FFL and wait 12-20 days.
It's a shall issue state for ccw but the big kahuna or whatever refuses to issue them to anybody.
Fuck these shit islands
>>28713878
I loved HI when I wasn't on duty. Fuck their shit gun laws though I'd move back if I could CCW.
>>28713878
>They have to pay insurance so that if they're in a collision and they hurt someone else who's an innocent bystander, it's covered.
I'd have to check my policy, but I'm 99% sure mowing down an innocent bystander isn't covered.
>>28713878
Hawaii Fag here. If I must be required to have liability insurance, then the faggots in the HPD need to start granting all CCW permits and make this a Shall issue state.
The idiot who proposes this bill makes a reference to car insurance however, leaves out the fact that the HPD has NEVER issued a CCW permit. This would be the same as being a car owner, where you pay yearly insurance, but your car must remain in your driveway at all times.
The faggots running this state are so god damn retarded its unbearable.
>>28713887
>car insurance a scam
As a police officer that works accidents every single fucking day. You're an idiot if you don't think you should have insurance.
Even if you do nothing wrong, who's do say you won't get rear ended by some drunk illegal who doesn't have insurance and flees the scene? Shit happens every day.
>>28713878
It was a fucking mistake to not genocide all of Hawaii and replacing its original inhabitants.
>>28714166
True. Hawaii is an American colony. The lawful government was overthrown by American agents and it became a territory through illegal annexation
>>28714167
Lol, I wish
>>28716149
Resign your commission and leave NOW, Haole. No one wants you here
>>28717083
Hawaii is a glorified military outpost. It should have never become a state.
>>28716798
"Beachnigger" is the preferred term, Haole cunt.
>>28716924
Go back mainland, Haole cunt
>>28717062
It was a mistake not to kill all the Haole and burn their ships
>>28717120
>>28717137
>>28717156
>>28717178
Couldn't you have just made one post?
>>28717156
I literally can't wait to get away from this place
>>28717125
Agreed
>>28717200
You could kill yourself. That would be faster than flying out.
>>28717195
What if I'm addressing separate Haole cunts?
>be hapa-haloe
>grow up in Hawaii then moved to cuckifornia once parents divorce
>ask dad about gun laws back home
>"lol so long as the cops/you are local and you aren't high on ice you can do what you want"
>Call him up to tell him about this bullshit
>more lols are had none of the browner side of my family gives a shit
>ask dad if he still illegally cc's his horrible new York arms 1911 that he spray painted in his old leather fanny pack
>of course my son, this hand gun will be passed on to you once I die
>don't really want it, but I'd never get rid of it since it's from my dad
Hawaiians pretty much dgaf about everything
>not sure if good or bad...
>>28717178
Fucking kek. Your all so stupid. You want all white people to leave and "give you back your island" but you want us to leave the gas stations and costco and shit. Where do you think that all came from ? Who do you think built your highways and industry ?
I would gladly take it all back from you ungrateful, uneducated slobs in a heartbeat if I could.
>>28717231
Then quote them and address them separately. Still easily achieved in a single post
>>28717231
>Stupid fat polynesians sell all their land to rich whites that show up
>happily blow all the money on liquor and fried chicken
>dayum haoles took muh land
dumb asses
>>28717241
>Your all so stupid
The English word you're looking for is "you're", Haole cunt
Oh, and you can take all you're shit with you when you leave
Once you pay off the bank for your house, car, land, all the back taxes and child support you and your bruddas owe we'll gladly leave.
You know if we were ever to leave someone else would just take you over right ? You will never be free from someone else's reign.
>>28717243
Fuck off, tripfag. No interweb etiquette lectures needed from an attention whore
>>28713878
What the hell? I lived in Hawaii about a decade ago and it was the best time of my life. Well aside from the schools... But still. Did shit get worse? I mean I was a kid so I'm seeing it through nostalgia-vision but it's still better than here in MN. Or do you guys just hate it politically-wise? My dad went there to die after he had a heart attack, he was a Vietnam vet though so I think he just loved the tropics and jungle.
>>28716305
Halt, you are under arrest by the Galac- *clears throat* United States Federation.
>>28717308
Wouldn't "tripfag" indicate I was using a tripcode, or are you just retarded?
>>28717243
>>28717272
Jesus, more useless new tripfag attention whores in /k/ erry day. Why don't you cockgobblers Fuck off back to your LiveJournals?
>>28717356
Namefag, tripfag, same attention whoring, newfag
>>28717239
>"lol so long as the cops/you are local and you aren't high on ice you can do what you want"
>ask dad if he still illegally cc's his horrible new York arms 1911 that he spray painted in his old leather fanny pack
God damn it anon, this whole post is so fucking Hawaii. I miss the place bro
>>28717335
Nah, Hawaii is still awesome. Thread is contaminated by Welfare Queens butthurt that they gotta police their barracks in the hot tropical sun.
>>28717381
>local
Lol, I got caught in a speed trap last week on Pali road. Whole line of tourist rental cars and me. Cop took one look at my Hawaii dl and let me go :D
>>28714088
pain and suffering
lost wages
loss of earning potential
loss of consortium
none of those are covered by health insurance, and other things being criminal is irrelevant
>>28715993
car insurance isn't worthless if you get hit by a car, or if you hurt someone and actually have possessions
you would know this if you had possessions
>>28716957
wrong. car insurance is for your negligence, or the negligence of the other guy without enough coverage. that's why it costs so much...people suck at driving
>>28717335
It's been getting worse. Numerous bands over at the Republik have ended their shows with
"Y'alls island is a lot shittier than we remember..."
Then all the fat ass "hawaiins" lose their shit and tell them they can leave if they don't like it.
>>28713878
so i just posted a bunch of pro insurance things - i don't think an insurance requirement is the worst thing in the world for the following reasons
- states don't set rates, they set limits
- since guns don't hurt people often, private companies should be able to keep rates low
- people who are negligent with guns deserve what they get, but usually don't own shit, so the guy that gets shot gets fucked
>>28717018
1. Because insurance companies rarely pay out anywhere close to the full amount for medical bills.
2. If you're like me and you drive a junker, the amount you pay over a few years far outweighs the amount it will cost to repair the car or even get another if totaled.
You'd be better off depositing that money into your own savings account to draw from if you get in an accident. That's why it's mandatory, because it doesn't make financial sense otherwise.
Hale Kula Elementary, Wheeler Middle and Leilehua high, good times growing up there but fuck I'd hate to live there if I wasn't a billionaire. Oahu was already getting over crowded as shit when I left in 2008, can't imagine what it's like now.
>>28717630
1. the only reason a company wouldn't pay the full amount of the bills is if you didn't have enough coverage. that's on you.
2. the main reason car insurance exists isn't so your crappy or nice car can get fixed. those things are minor. it's for injuries, so people who didn't do anything wrong don't get caught with medical bills that ruin their life.
it's mandatory because no one in america saves money, and most of the idiots who get drunk and drive over some pedestrian are even less likely to save money
tl;dr you are dumb and poor
>>28717688
Most of the time insurance declares your car totaled, and gives you less than it was worth instead of fixing it
it's mandatory because no one in america saves money, and most of the idiots who get drunk and drive over some pedestrian are even less likely to save money
>it's mandatory because no one in america saves money, and most of the idiots who get drunk and drive over some pedestrian are even less likely to save money
most of those idiots are illegals, and they dont have insurance anyways
>>28717789
the insurance is for the benefit of the pedestrian who gets hit, not the drunk person who ran into them
it is amazing how little you understand about the concept of car insurance. i get why you're against it. but maybe ease off the throttle before you make public statements
>>28713878
>you should be held accountable for what someone does illegally with stolen property
lol
> tfw I used to live there
> tfw the place where the first half of my children's life is torn down
Also, what's the Hale Koa like? Heard they were struggling a while ago, never found out how true it was. Loved that place.
>>28713878
Lets re-word this. Hawaii will be leaning on insurers to tack on a politically determined surcharge to existing liability policies.
Many years ago, I asked my agent whether I should get a liability rider for my homeowners policy. Due to my guns. He asked if I had a large and/or valuable collection. Nope, just a couple of pistols, shotgun, etc. He said I was already covered by my standard homeowners policy since firearms liability is down in the statistical noise.
I would reccommend liability insurance for anyone with a home, or anything else of value. And then you'll be covered in the event something bad happens involving your guns. But that's true of swilling pools, lawn mowers, cleaning chemicals stored under the sink, etc.
>>28713878
Now who might be expected to offer a reasonably priced firearms liability policy?
The NRA, perhaps? Discount for membership, of course. NRA membership soars and the nogunz liberals shit themselves.
>>28717979
NRA is about the only one I can think that could offer reasonable liability insurance. USAA would too but it is semi difficult to get them.
>>28717578
>Republiks
That's what happens when you hang out in a gay bar
>>28713878
Seems reasonable.
>>28716149
What makes Hawaii so shit? Went there once as a kid for vacation and it seemes decent enough
>>28716097
Yes, they're an American state, even if their laws are shit.
>>28717018
It's not up to you or the government who gets to have insurance. If they don't want it, they shouldn't need to have it. It may be dumb to some, but it's their choice. Faggot.
Can we make gun grabbers pay liability insurance to where if something happens that could of been prevented due to me having a gun but could not because they got it taken away? Any time something happens in a gun-free zone we should be able to sue them
>>28717018
It's not up to you or the government who gets to have insurance. If they don't want it, they shouldn't need to have it. It may be dumb to some, but it's their choice. Faggot.
>>28717933
Liability insurance man.
Started working as a lifeguard/lifeguard instructor during summers during high school and I picked up some dirt cheap liability insurance in case someone died and the family tried to sue me or if some bit h I taught cried rape. Feels good
>>28717933
>swilling pools
Why yes I would like a swimming pool filled with vodka
>>28718336
Only experience I have is with Oahu. Maui is fairly nice, if not kind of boring.
>It's literally ghetto surrounded by jungle
>It's a 3rd world country
>Hawaiians are rascist as fuck
>Hawaiians are stupid as fuck
>Hawaiians are lazy as fuck
>The cops here are incompetent and corrupt as fuck
>The cost of living is exorbitant
>The Gov here is an absolute joke
>The roads are fucked because the Gov here is an absolute joke
>You have almost zero gun rights
>Everything is closed on sundays, is open from like 9-16, and they aren't open a lot of the time at random because "I felt like dipping out early bruddah. Needed small kine break, yeah?"
>for some reason Hawaiians act like everything Hawaiian hands touch is superior (even though everything Hawaiian run is absolute dog shit)
Along with a host of other problems. Pick your favorite.
Also, if you bring any of this up the locals lose their shit and tell you "if you don't like it go back to the mainland haole"
>Inb4 if you don't like it go back to the mainland haole
>Inb4 we don't want you here
>Inb4 you think you're so superior
>Inb4 raped our queen
>>28717018
>who's do say you won't get rear ended by some drunk illegal who doesn't have insurance and flees the scene
you need to pay extra for uninsured motorist insurance coverage. if shit like illegals driving without insurance is an every day problem then maybe the bullshit police surcharges my insurance charges me should be used to get illegals off the road.
>>28713878
Isn't Washington state proposing the same thing along with their proposed bans on Assault rifles and 10+ rd mags ?
>>28719724
>swilling pools
Silly me. Meant to write swiving pool.
>>28719848
I agree with every point here and the worst part is I live here
Hey guys, I don't wanna get all /pol/ on you, but guess what religion he is listed as on wikipedia
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Green_(politician)
>Murccans leave Hawaii like that one islandfag wants
>Chinese take over
>Treat natives like shit
>???
>Das racis
Seriously, does hawaii even have any kind of economy besides "US military outpost" to survive on their own?
Tourism, yes, but thats it.
>>28721651
Meth and pineapples.
>>28717272
Dead wrong. Chiquita banana wanted the pineapple land and the navy wanted to make ports so they moved in and claimed island. The natives didn't get shit. Now fuck off sperglord.
>>28713878
Fuck this country and fuck all this liberal progressive govt fucktards insistant on grinding all of humanity into controlled submission on every front.
I'm fucking glad I only have so many years left to live this shit. Fucking hell
>>28721651
coffee
but yeah mostly tourism
>>28721803
Yeah and most of that is probably US murcans.
This seems to be the hot new political move by the anti gun crowd. There's a bill in WA proposing the same thing along with a slew of other anti gun bills. Question I have is does it intend gun owners to insure each firearm, or one policy on the owner because he owns guns? A policy on each gun I own would be potentially crippling
>>28722333
Yea, that's literally the point. Their stated goal in this is to make it too cost prohibitive to have your basic human rights
>>28721589
>guess what religion
So they hold all the mortgage paper on the islands. And they don't want any resistance when they evict the natives and ove their own into nice vacation houses.
>>28713878
>if a gun falls into the wrong hands or if there's an accident, just an accident, it makes a lot of sense to me that we have that extra level of responsibility," Green said.
Why should John Q. Gunowner have to pay for what Tyrone L. Criminarius does with stolen property? What happened to personal responsibility?
>>28717125
THIS
>>28722476
For the same reason Tyrone L. Criminarius also gets your welfare, medicare, and money for dem programs.
>>28719848
You no like? Go back mainland, Haole.
>>28721589
LOL, it's the jesus freaks that stole everything, Hitler. Go the nicest places on the Islands and all the streets are named after Bishop, Gulick, Cooke, Castle, etc.
>>28717335
Dude, MN is bad ass
>>28717335
lmao Sam is that you?
Hey Ohana and sexy girls living in Hawaii,
Please move to the lower 48 and then pray for a tsunami to sink the ship of fools that is your little islands and wipe the slate clean.
>>28717083
I think we should withdraw every military and federal asset on the island and leave the place for the fucking Chinks.
>>28717137
I prefer pineapple nigger.
>>28716798
>lava niggers
top kek
>>28716798
Lmao brutal
>>28717083
>Lawful government overthrown
>Illegal annexation
And we are still regretting it to this day.
You can have your islands back. How much would it take for you to seize California while you are at it?
>>28717279
You are so completely, objectively wrong, I don't know how anyone could fuck up as badly as you have.
What would happen if a criminal that didn't have insurance shot someone - would there be a general pool split among insurers to cover like medical and compensation, to be taken out of all the legal gun owners premiums next month/year?
Sounds fucking retarded but it would be a great antigunner playbook move - actually charging legal gun owners for illegal firearms use.
>>28713878
How about liability insurance for gun free zones? How about law allowing to sue owners of gun free zones in case of denied self-defence? Texas-sama plz?
>>28713878
Is that from Aiki?
>>28724468
>>28719848
Hawaii's only nice if you're rich. Who do you think is voting for all of these laws?
Belgian europeon here.
My sportshooting federation membership cost is 22 euros per year. (this is not a range fee)
1 euro of this is spent on insurance, as it is included in the membership. This insurance is the cheapest you can get for sportsrelated insurance and covers any normal sportive gun use.
It's cheaper than soccer insurance, golf insurance, or anything of the kind, simply because shooting sports only extremely rarely cause mishaps.
So your liability thing you're talking about does not really need to be something expensive to cover your use of the firearm...
>>28729065
Fuck off, commie.
>>28729082
>Fuck off, commie.
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves.
>>28729065
>missing the point this badly
>>28716149
Same, squadron is moving to washington muh nig
>>28729204
Maika'i. Take the rest of the Haole cunts with you when you go, Welfare Queen.
>>28716149
Why wait two months? Kill yourself now.
>>28729687
I guarantee that China will make a move on you if the US were to leave.
>>28721693
You got marginalized by pineapple farmers gg kill yourself.
>>28713878
Now even more reason to hate that shitty ass state. All they do is be fat and praise volcanos.
>>28729687
I don't know why you're talking shit to anyone, I would gladly sell Hawaii and all Hawaiians with it.
I won a free trip to Hawaii and it was literally the worst vacation I've ever been on: everyone there is fat, retarded, and full of themselves. It's tied with the time I got the butt squirts when I was in Colombia, but at least Colombians aren't fat faggots. Everyone always says Alabama or Mississippi are our worst states but honestly if they had your beaches and weather you'd be our absolute worst. Seriously, if you didn't have nice beaches and we actually gave a fuck what you lazy retards actually thought your islands would wither and die without that tourism teat to suck on.
What a pathetic failure of a state. I wish we had never annexed you not just because it was wrong but because Hawaii is the worst thing we have ever stolen and the shitty thing is we can't give it back without polluting the world with another third-world nation full of retarded brown people.
>>28733017
>>28729065
This is America. We will get jewed more than your socialist Europoor mind could ever fathom
>>28733136
Well besides that the fucking principle of it is stupid shit. We don't need liability insurance for gun owners and if you want to examine that might as well start taxing blacks to pay for the prison system.
>>28733017
tl;dr
But go fuck yourself anyway, Haole cunt ;D
>>28734446
Do you know what "cunt" means?
Because that's what you are, a cunt.
>>28734917
I'll accept that if you accept you're fat and useless.
>>28735096
cuntsayswhat?
>>28736322
What?...Oh, OH, YOU FAT ASSHOLE!
>>28736322
Still waiting for you to wake up and smell the fried spam.
Actually it's hilarious because your "hurr go back to mainlain haole" shit proves exactly what I was talking about. It took one visit to your shitty, shitty islands to deduce it's full of human trash that's full of themselves. Don't worry you fat son of a bitch, I'll stay out of Hawaii and stay in Colorado where I will enjoy having all the things you're not allowed to have. You know. Like guns, peace and quiet, and a healthy lifestyle.
inb4 hurr tl;dr cuz i cant read
>>28736404
>I'll stay out of Hawaii
Good. See that you do, Cunt.
>>28736434
Is that the only insult you know? Better question, what's a nogunz fatass like you even doing here?
Actually I don't give a fuck anymore, the embargo against Cuba's been dropped so Hawaii is now totally irrelevant.
>>28736472
The cubans don't like Amerifats any more than we do, Cunt. I think you're out of luck.
