Has anyone gotten a refund yet?
Yer mom apparently won't give them without a reciept
>>28713489
I called them last week, still waiting -_- from what I read they got way more returns than they though they would get. It got to the point that the postal service quit delivering and asked them to bring a truck and pick up their returns.
>>28713489
wut happened?
>>28713489
Tracking shows that mine was delivered, but I've heard nothing from them.
My bet is they'll sell all the aluminum for scrap, then declare bankruptcy
>>28714374
>Eokek
>A subsidiary of L3 communications
>Bankruptcy
I doubt it.
>>28714384
why not? the reason its a subsidiary, and bankruptcy itself, are simply accounting procedures.
were you sleeping in bus101?
>>28714328
they got caught knowing that their sights, when exposed to heat, cold, or moisture won't hold zero. making them as useful as duct taping a stapler to your rifle. They knew they were fucked up and still sold their shit for years.
now you can send your shit back and demand a full refund for whatever you paid (or whatever you tell them you paid as long as it's close enough)
Mailed mine in just before new-years. Got an e-mail last week saying it was received and my refund was being processed. Nothing since.
>>28713489
I'm just glad that i bought a Aimpoint H1 micro instead of an eotech.....
>>28714423
kicking myself for not doing the same
>>28714423
>>28714541
Got myself an aimpoint T2 year ago and couldn't be happier .
>>28714423
In the optics world, Aimpoint is the rule, everything else is the exception.
>>28715474
Hows it hold up vs the T1? Have you used both?
Obviously both are going to outlive you but as far as user experience I guess.
>>28715479
Yup
>>28715480
I haven't used t2. You said it bud, this is waaay above the range warrior needs. This thing is absolutely indestructible, I got larue mount for a perfect cowitness. Only downside was that after looking through it I realized I had astigmatism haha
>>28715650
Not completely indestructible
>>28715650
>>28715672
Mind you I doubt any optic would have survived what this one went through
>>28713489
No, I like my 512 so I'll probably just keep it.
>>28715735
even though it's gonna shift and be useless?
>>28715760
It hasn't so far, I doubt it will.
>>28715760
>even though it's gonna shift and be useless?
To be fair, its shifts between massive extremes, and you can always rezero.
>>28713489
Nope, and I'm not holding my breath.
>>28715788
You realize that the first time you get in a massive Bond-like firefight inside an arctic volcano, that Eotech is going to be useless, right?
>>28715818
lol, nah the temp ranges aren't that extreme. 110+ and below freezing
>>28714395
Barrel burst of a 15cm Howitzer if you wonder what the caption says
>>28715800
>massive extremes
Please start at page 13.
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/United-States-v.-L-3-Communications-Eotech-Inc.-et-al.pdf
>>28715818
Its held up fine to michigan winters for 5 years, I like the reticle and fov so I'll take my chances.
You think now I can buy an EoTech for really cheap? Temperature extremes won't be a problem.
>>28715672
>>28715683
What exactly am I looking at here, mind elaborating?
>>28715837
No. Still 450-500 American. Aimpoint prices have gone up by $200 though.
>itt fanbois who dont understand internal ballistics
For the same temperature range, a 20" barreled 308 gun will have a peak pressure difference in excess of 13 kPSI and a velocity difference of ~240fps. Over that range you have to rezero no matter what.
>>28715826
> the user’s aim would be affected
by error ranging from 12 MOA to more than 20 MOA
LOLOLOLOLOL fuck that shit. a cool looking sight is shit compared to being able to defend yourself
>>28715869
I'm a police officer and was rammed by a dude high on bath salts during a vehicle pursuit. Wrecked out into a barrier and my trunk popped open and at some point my rifle in it's soft case got ejected from my trunk. The reticle actually works, it's just the battery compartment that's busted so it can't hold a battery in it.
On the plus side, BCM repaired my rifle for free and shipped it back 2 days after they got it (it was shooting the dirt about 20-30m down range). Aimpoint said they would fix my optic, but that was like a month ago and I'm still waiting. Using a shitty 1033 CompM2 in the meantime.
>>28714384
Too big to fail, amirite?
After this shitstorm, L3 will be doing everything in their power to dump the eotech name. If they don't, they're even more stupid than eotech's leadership itself.
>>28715999
>>28715920
The difference is EOTech does not return to zero when returned to the temp it was zero'd at. Your rifle does.
>>28715999
glad to hear you're okay
>>28716020
>i think other optics are made out of magical materials that do
>>28716052
eocuck detected
>>28716066
>I wish I had a basic understanding of internal ballistics
I know this is sleazy, but I bought my 553.A65 on sale and am returning it for MSRP +$15.00, then I'm gonna buy a new Eotech for less than half of what I paid.
.>>28716052
The difference is the problem is far exaggerated with the eotech design because of the amount of surfaces the reticle reflects off of, each one magnifying the shift.
An Aimpoint is just a light shine onto a lens.
>>28716035
Was a bit of a wild ride, but I came out of it with just a cut on my pinky (not even sure how it happened) and a bit shaken up. Crown Vic's never cease to impress me.
>>28716076
>my gun shoots 20 MOA to the left under normal temperature changes.
>y-you constantly have to r-reeeezero.
Sounds like you bought a shit rifle m8
>>28716098
No one likes tripfags here.
>>28716076
>thinks internal ballistics have anything to do with optics
>>28716082
Don't feel bad about it, I hope they go bankrupt from people milking them out dry. Market is saturated anyway
>>28715999
So aimpoint CS utterly sucks I see
>>28716114
Dont forget to like, comment and subscribe. :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3OTgTyujtE
Since no one ever gets a refund I'm still waiting for my chance to buy a EXPS2 or 3 for under $400
Want an Aimpoint to cowitness rear MBUS and front sight post perfectly on a LE6920.
Which one and what mount should I get?
>>28716180
The guy I spoke with said he'd help me out after he finished with SHOT Show, cause all the CS reps were there. Then they got snowed in and flight delayed. Said he'd get with me by the end of the week.
So I dunno if it sucks or it's just a perfect storm of shit going wrong.
>>28716132
>being unable to read a thread before posting
you should adopt a trip, you'd fit right in
Not sending either of mine back. Had then both for years with no problem. No shift no nothing with weekly range trips (outdoor range rain, snow, or shine) only time I have adjusted them was when I first put them on the rifles. They have been dropped, kicked, soaked, covered in snow Never had a problem. Love the sight picture. I'm keeping mine until they take a Shit. Then I may buy another. By the way they are a 552 and a 512.
>>28715479
LAV please go and stay go
idk why you guys even fuck with optics my famas is perfect without one up to 7000m
>>28714423
I love my aimpoint h1 but I can't get over their logo, it looks tacky to me for some reason.
>>28716441
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TX2BD4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
> lgs selling 512s for $320
I'm almost tempted for the novelty
Maybe just buy pne and keep it on a beater rifle with an aimpoint on my go to.
Nogunz here, does it also apply to the eotech sights in the military?
>>28716098
>normal
look i returned my 512 but i wouldnt call those temp extremes normal
>>28718243
It applies to them all.
Which in a way sucks, it's a cool concept and with a recall this major there is going to be a lot of buyers hesitant to buy holo sights in the future, even with notable upgrades to the tech.
No check yet, just an email. Lazy EOCuck fags
>>28718243
http://www.eotechinc.com/dear-valued-eotech-customer
>>28715999
>>28716180
>>28716503
I emailed aimpoint to ask them how and where I needed to send money to get a set of short screws I lost for my PRO. A year ago.
Great products, garbage CS.
Eh, holding on to mine, it was a gift and I'd imagine one day it'll be a worth something as a relic from the tacticool/mw2/mallninja era.
>>28720442
Maybe, but it ain't ever gonna be worth full MSRP like it is now.
>>28720461
Either way, it's all profit.
There is one thing that I don't understand, EOTechs have been exposed to heat,cold and moisture for years by many military forces around the world. How come none of them noticed the losing zero issue?
>>28720723
Might've just been told to shut up. Shit like that happens aaaallllll the time. I mean hell, look at the UCP pattern and the ACU uniform. Both sucked ass and have just finally been replaced.
just get an EOTech on the cheap from some retard that was shitting himself thinking it would shift.
i'm going to run it with no BUIS because i live on the edge.
