looking for an entry level AR-15 that wont break the bank but isnt a pile of ass. Also open to other rifles chambered in 5.56
>>28706790
cool
>>28706790
>m&p15 sport
/thread
Build yourself a Palmetto State armory poorfag special. Opt for the cold hammer forged barrel.
>>28706790
Armalite M15A2
>>28706790
Ruger AR556. 799 MSRP, durable, full featured. Can be had for 600-700 new if you look, only downside is the factory stock sucks donkey dick (the butt looks like a breaching muzzle brake and doesn't grip the shoulder too well). Great bang for buck if you want fully assembled and full metal.
>>28706810
this
it was my first ar and I never had any malfunctions with it. I ended up selling it to a friend for his first ar.
>>28706826
Pic semi related, it's my SR556-E
Good ideas all around here.
>>28706810
>>28706833
Either this, or a DPMS Sportical.
>>28706820
This if you're willing to put in a bit of effort to build and understand how your rifle works.
>>28706810
This if you want something that goes bang for cheap.
>Also, please don't, "/thread," your own posts. It makes you look pretentious.
M&P 15 or Colt 6920 the one without handguard or that Aero Precision special on brownells.
>>28706790
>looking for an entry level AR-15 that wont break the bank
Build an ar15, don't buy one. You can do the rest of the research yourself
>>28706942
can i build it for way cheaper?
>>28706957
Yes. Watch this video to get a better understanding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glk1qMbj7S0
>>28706822
>won't feed metal mags
Nah bruh
>>28706942
I'm looking for a plain Jane a2 and building one is looking to be more expensive than some of these bargain rifles. Only I can't find any of them in stock and only delton has a2 uppers in stock.
>>28706986
You want a rifle length a2 looking gun?
>>28706997
Yeah buddy
>>28706970
I hope no one takes this video as serious advice
ULTIMATE
FUNCTIONAL
MILSPEC+
BUDGET
BUILD
2016
>DI OPTICAL RV1 RED DOT SIGHT
https://www.rainierarms.com/di-optical-rv1-red-dot-sight
>PSA MID L/W PREMIUM KIT
http://palmettostatearmory.com/16-mid-length-light-weight-chrome-lined-premium-rifle-kit.html
>TROY BATTLERAIL 9.0" BLK
http://palmettostatearmory.com/troy-mid-length-enhanced-drop-in-battlerail-9-blk-srai-did-d9bt-00.html
>TROY REAR BATTLESIGHT
https://www.rainierarms.com/troy-rear-folding-battle-sight
>B5 SYSTEMS BRAVO SOPMOD
https://www.rainierarms.com/b5-systems-sopmod-stock-bravo
>BLUE FORCE QD VICKERS SLING
https://www.blueforcegear.com/vickers-push-button-slings.html
>TOTAL COST: $1,150.00 USD
worth it when your getting....
Milspec+ Middy L/W Chrome Lined AR15 w/ Milspec Rail System & 2pt Military Quick-Adjust Sling & QD-Capability & Milspec Rear BUIS & Actual Military RDS that takes AA's
>>28706957
if you build the lower (<20 bucks of tools needed, it's easy as legos) and get an upper assembly then it's either less or the same price as a budget AR, but you'll know how your gun works, how to disassemble / clean / repair parts if they break, 10x better than some tard who bought a fully assembled cheap one.
And as the lowest price rifles are more likely to have a malfunction, that can be rather important.
The other main benefit is customizability, as you select exactly which barrel, handguard, sights, grip and stock you'll use, without paying any extra as the supply of base AR15 parts is so damn huge.
A free-floated quadrail AR with scope/red dot and a front handgrip certainly feels different than a basic vietnam style iron sights + handguard build.
Hell, if you're like most people, when you realize you can get it for 500-600, you might end up building one traditional and one 'tactical'
>>28707018
You can look around psa if they get their uppers back in stock. Their premium line uses fn barrels iirc. Do you specifically want a non removeable carry handle or a flat top?
>>28707030
>I hope no one takes this video as serious advice
As in what? Buying piston and other shit? Building a rifle is better than buying one generally.
>>28706986
>>28706997
Build with delton complete 20" upper looks to be clocking around $750.
>>28707030
do you have an alternative. there seems to be no media for a noguns to turn into guns online that is reliable. a crash course in modern firearms. a rulebook
>>28706790
A stag ar-15
>>28707070
>delton
pls no
>>28706790
build one dont buy some prebuilt trash
>>28706849
Is that the chinkshit reflex sight? How you liking it?
>>28706876
>sportical
Get the A-15.
>>28707064
I wanted nonremovable but it's been a pain to find.
>>28706790
M&P sport II or get a PSA blemish lower and Premium upper.
>>28706790
psa are alright famioli
be sure to get one with CHF barrel.
>>28707084
Literally the only a2 rifle length upper i can find in stock.
>>28706790
Build you own, using used parts. There are plenty of place to get parts. You can get quality used items off of /k/, the equipment exchange on AR15.com, facebook, whatever. Just, it's much better to build it yourself.
>>28707117
build it ya goof, delton is shit
>>28707135
Is that yours? More pictures of that sexy beast if so.
>>28707096
A-15 isn't technically a DPMS model. Most of their stamped lowers have rollmarks which say A-15, but those lowers are used indiscriminately throughout their 5.56 lineup. What indicates different models are the furniture and upper accessory options.
>>28707102
What's your budget? You can get a colt hbar a2 for like $900-$1,000 which I doubt you're willing to spend.
Just don't get a delton. They're shit. My advice, just save up a little bit more and keep an eye out on palmetto when they do restock.
Any specific reason you want a fixed carry handle?
>>28707135
Quick Google didn't turn up anything terrible. What's wrong with them?
>>28707073
>>28707064
the video talks about swapping parts like its what needs to be done to a beginners rifle
the best way to go about getting a new ar goes something like this
>buy rifle
there are rifles that you can buy that are under $850
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=smith+and+wesson+m%26p+15+sport
>shoot your new rifle
irons and stock furniture are fine for a new buyer
>after a while of shooting, then you can buy some new parts
whether its a sight, new rail, etc.
>shoot your gun with new parts
a new ar owner shouldnt even worry about 1/2 the shit on that guys list until they become acquainted with their rifle, and at that point, you can build a entirely new upper if thats what you want
>>28707148
yeah, its actually p basic but i like it
>>28707170
its shit is whats wrong with them. whats your budget
>>28707158
>You can get a colt hbar a2 for like $900-$1,000
That'd be fine with me. The problem is availability not funds, I can't find anything else in stock. Looked at colt, dpms, and bushmaster first. Gimme a link and I'll have that on order tomorrow.
>>28707191
deltons the same as everything else is deltons budget price range
mediocre and functional
its not complete garbage
they dont explode or catastrophically fail except for one run of bcgs in 2012 or 13
>>28707224
save up for a few more weeks then, delton is trash
>>28707218
Just a heads up, they're hbar which means heavy barrel. And some don't have threads on the barrel so you can't put a muzzle brake on it.
A colt hbar was the first ar15 I ever shot.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=colt+hbar
And if you do actually go through with buying one, here's a link for some good colt 20 round mags
https://www.44mag.com/category/223_ar15_magazines
>>28707251
Nothing to scoff at, man, even if it's basic.
>>28707251
post evidence showing why deltons shit instead of repeating its shit/garbage/trash
im not denying that better brands exist if hes got the budget for it he should buy something better
but in my experience delton is passable and functionally identical to my psa build
>>28707299
go ahead and buy it then m8. PSA is the cheapest one should go.
>>28707334
its the same price mate
>>28707369
then get the psa, delton is shit
>>28707419
why is it shit?
>>28707426
He's a tripfag, just stop paying attention.
>>28707369
>its the same price mate
What are you trying to prove? They're the same price? Then it's a no brainer, get a psa. They have a better reputation.
Are you some delton shill or something? You're awfully defensive for such a shit brand, do you happen to own one and want to justify it?
>>28707450
at this point im curious to see what reason the tripfag pulls out of his ass
im guessing it will be poop related or a dragon dildo
>>28707492
>poop related or a dragon dildo
im not a faggot
>>28707267
No go with 5.56? That's kind of a drag.
>>28707468
>Are you some delton shill or something
sure im a shill whos highest praise for the product im supposedly promoting is that its mediocre
all i want is for trips to stop talking out of their ass if theres no proof to back it up
dont even care that its delton if he was shit talking colt/psa/bcm i would still want to know why its shit
>PSA/PTAC upper
>PSA lower
>Most any rear sight
Cheap as shit, ~500 plus tax and FFL, fires perfectly fine. Save up for some magpul furniture (make sure they're OD green or tan so you look extra operator.) Obviously you're on a budget, so you're not going to get Daniel Defense-tier tolerances and quality, but if you just want an AR, or need a rifle fast, it's perfectly acceptable.
>People recommending $200 optics and shit
Rifle is fine. Rifle is better when you drop and extra 500-700 on it, but rifle is fine.
>>28707497
>im not a faggot
you have a trip and are on /k/
>>28707600
i dont like anime too, am i fuckin up your little world?
>>28707633
stop talking about yourself because no one cares
post a reason why its shit
any reason at all other than repeatedly saying its shit
>>28707018
You might be able to build an a4 clone for cheaper than buying one just saying
>>28706849
not him, but i like mine
so if you buy a complete upper and a lower do you need to buy anything else?
>>28707812
magazine, ammo lube ect.
but no you have a functioning gun at that point
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/rock-river-arms-lar-15-5-56mm-r18443/
how retarded would i be if i buy this
>>28706790
Look for deals on psa. If you're patient you can get a mid tier AR for less than $600
>>28707822
And if you watch the sales from lets say Palmetto State Armory, they have good deals on uppers all the time. They also have lowers that are complete on sale at least once a month. Just have an idea in your head as to what you want, watch the sales, if you have to get once piece at a time. I did this when I put together my first AR, and I still do it to this day. You will probably want to customize the furniture or whatever, but don't worry too much about that until you get a working boomstick.
>>28708159
No reason to buy a complete AR when you can build one for much cheaper
>>28707183
>buying your gun twice because you're too much of a baby to do it right the first time.
Or you can just buy what you want the first time and build it yourself so you get better parts for cheaper and know exactly how the gun functions
should I build an A1 as my first AR?
>>28707153
Yeah, but it has a dust cover and that's what matters when we're talking this cheap.
>>28708229
i never said a person HAD to buy a 2nd upper, i was just pointing out how pants on head retarded that video was when the OP was looking for entry level ar's
a new owner shouldn't buy a entry level ar, then spend hundreds on unnecessary accessories. And like I said, the buyer should shoot the rifle how it comes for a while and get a feel for it, then they can move on to buying what they want.
>>28708229
Any stickies on what to look for when buying an upper/lower?
>>28708159
>$1,300 msrp
You can get a daniel defense with that kind of money. Do it if you're a retard.
>>28709420
Generally, lowers don't matter for the most part. Just avoid polymer and all other kinds of dumb shit and get a good quality milspec aluminum lower from anyone like
>spike's
>palmetto state
>axts if you like ambi
Most of your money is well spent on a good quality bcg and barrel, everything else really doesn't matter in terms of performance as much as both of those do.
You can get a pretty good upper from brands like
>bcm
>daniel defense
>spike's
>palmetto
>colt
>fn
You're better off buying a complete upper rather than the parts to assemble it.
>>28709511
I don't have the knowledge to assemble anyway. I'd have to have one intact and then disassemble it to understand it.
>>28709586
Assembling an ar15 is piss fucking easy. There's literally tons of videos online that will guide you through it.
Plus, you will actually know how your gun works when you do it. Don't be scared. For the upper reciever, it's literally putting it through two pins to connect it to your lower
>>28709701
Ah, okay. Thanks, because I knew the upper was easy, but some idiots (i suppose) at the range were complaining about the reassembly. I've done tons of different pistols, but I've only owned a 22LR rifle, and never disassembled it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-pkqAv6Xk
Adams Arms AA15 Piston AR
Pistons keep guns cleaner, longer.
As others have said, go research youtube for 30 minutes and then just build your own rifle. Hell, there's tons of places with "custom" uppers with endless options.
In pic related, I built for $420 about six months ago, minus the Aimpoint Comp M2. It's fired about 1300-1500 rounds of wolf steel cased besides the initial 60 rounds of wolf gold.
>$190 PSA Upper
>$130 Anderson lower
>$100 BCG/CH combo from Wise arms
>>28710189
Looks good, too. Nothing tacticool about it. Some of y'all have some fuck-all attitudes towards guns - especially styling.
>>28710189
Isn't that sight like $400?
>>28707052
>buying Troy products ever
Get out fascist bootlicking faggot
>>28706876
Since when is sportical a fucking word?
>>28708159
A rail mounted to a rail...
>>28706790
what's considered not breaking the bank?
>>28706790
>fat fucks teaching self defense
Learn how to fight off a cheeseburger first fatty
>>28706884
He says pretentiously in green text
>>28707224
Goddammit! That's when i got my delton upper(midlength). Fuck! I've been pissed off with them for years! You mean they don't normally suck shit through dog dicks?
>>28707633
>on 4chan
>doesn't like anime
I think i know who's suckin dick tonight
*Hoping it's mine
