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>Russian military to reinstate WW2 era assault engineering sapper brigades
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXQcHQ_MJXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZkMkCsOswc
This is basically Jin-Roh irl, what do you think about the idea of heavy troops equipped specifically to breach and assault confined urban structures in modern megalopolis? Does it make any sense dedicating entire regiments for something that can be normally done by SF?
Why would you need a whole squad? This guy pretty much cleared a whole skyscraper with just a rookie at his side.
>>28679032
I've got one of the WW2 armour sets
Manlet size, crappy steel, would only stop super low velocity frag, certainly not a round from any firearm - conclusion - they used to to protect themselves from their own demo charges...
>>28679051
that because he have a Space glock
>>28679032
>Russian military to reinstate WW2 era assault engineering sapper brigades
nope
i am pretty sure they still have assault engineering troop
same guy in this pic
they use heavy IFV and carry flamethrower
>>28679163
>"flamethrower"
More like thermobaric RPG...
>>28679032
Pretty cool.
The US have already had something similar (full body armor) but from what I know the leg protection was badly thought out and no one liked it.
Seems like these russian guys also have no leg protection.
http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/35052-usmc-interceptor-otv-coyote-brown/
I think the armor shown here is somewhat closer to Jin-roh while keeping mobility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s3Qx_IWQmQ
>>28679181
>thermobaric RPG
have you ever seen a RPG with thermobaric warhead?
for example the TBG-7V. It have 100meters range, need a specialize sight and trajectory of a rock
on the orther hand, RPO-A and RPO-M have superior ballistic and payloadm and they look badass
those guys also have GM-94, RShG, RMG
>>28679032
Those suits look really badass.
>>28679288
those suit go with this gun
10 time more badass
we metro rangers nao
>>28679186
I actually wanted to make somehting similar to that
>get German helmet
>acquire red leds
>acquire gasmask
>place led+battery inside gas mask
>glowing red eyed mask complete
not sure what to do with the rest
would be awesome Halloween or fuck around with outfit when complete
>>28679186
There is leg plates, but only in the front.
>heavy troops equipped specifically to breach and assault confined urban structures in modern megalopolis
that's the idea, although their purpose is more of an actual military assault on heavily entrenched positions on urban battlefield like Syria and Iraq rather than police mop ups. i think MoD recognized necessity for heavy engineering/assault units after they've seen footage of tunnel war in Jobar
>Does it make any sense dedicating entire regiments for something that can be normally done by SF?
branches cohesion, combined arms operations. unlike GRU or VDV they don't have freedom to act independently from other branches and they don't go in alone. in a textbook scenario, they're the spearhead to breach the defenses and step aside so that tanks and motor rifle infantry can do their part
they're still spetznas though, considering that narrow specialization puts them above rest of the semi-skilled trigger labor, and equipment costs allow having like one battalion for every federal district
>>28680100
That's good looking gear to be honest. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on helmet.
Goddamn, the Ruskies have badass uniforms. Why are Americans incapable of designing good looking military gear?
>>28679186
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>>28680559
>Says the guy who has never had to fight wearing a riot suit.
>>28680559
American doctrine focuses on speed and the violence of action. Ruskies just want to get close enough after tanking a bunch of damage to blow the whole building up.
>>28680100
>no side rail to mount optics
ree
>>28681320
>optics in CQC
>>28681521
what's reddot
ak irons are horrible for close quarters
tbqh famzilla
>>28679145
Is that the experimental Soviet laser pistol?
>want to research sturmtruppen/stosstruppen during WW2
>all the results are fucking about the SS
please help
>>28679181
It does the same thing as a flamethrower without making the operator die horribly. Seems like an improvement.
>>28682885
Not really.
AFAIK, Thermobarics are just pressure-bombs, rather than full-on incendiary devices.
Isn't that what a Marine Assaultman is supposed to do...?
>>28682840
try looking into ww1 stosstruppen and go from there
>>28682901
Aren't thermobaric and air-fuel weapons basically synonymous?
>>28682903
I thought 0351 handled the SMAWs.
>>28682906
I have but I want to know how the progressed during WW2.
>>28679477
Some people call them demons
>>28682946
Yep. Their main lethality comes from the huge fluctuations in pressure.
>>28682946
Assaultmen also do some breaching and c4 work. They're not strictly AT rocket guys. That's the 0352's job
>>28679032
This is great. To fight Islamics (who mostly infest urban areas), you need to get up close and personal and treat them with flame and shrapnel.
All they need are badass NVGs that glow red and Pechenegs belt-fed from their backpacks.
>>28683012
I call them bitches
been done before
>>28687382
>>28688220
Vodka is an important tactical asset, after all.
>>28686566
*beetches!
>>28687436
That looks terrible.
>>28688375
I think it'd look better in a different camo.
Regardless if UCP is/isn't effective, it looks like shit.
>>28688404
I agree 100%
>>28688375
It's ACU, what do you expect?
>>28687436
Prefer the DAPs as to give the appearance of a bulky upper body.
>>28680100
Fuckin' sexy
>>28679032
Is it legal in the US to booby trap contents inside your house like they show in the video?
>>28688909
No.
>>28688570
>>28687436
are these the same camos? I always see a lighter ACU, which white and grey, and a darker one with green and brown.
Can somebody enlighten me finally?
>>28681320
Mount them on the dog.
Sorry to disappoint but fort is shit. They still stick to steel plates and their ceramic armor is pathetic compared to tehinkom stuff. 6b43 with assault kit is the best Russian armor.
>>28680100
>that dogs gear
Fuckin sick.
>>28689719
different cameras, photo exposure time, post production/photoshop tinting/filtering, white balancing etc etc
I'm no photofag but I know that when I photograph with the same blue background that the blue never matches between groups of pictures
mainly because I don't have a good/programmable camera and full control of the lighting because it's not important
and of course, ACU adaptive camo magic *ahem*
>>28689922
But they look so damn different. Maybe you are right and it's just the camera.
>>28679926
and how would you see anything? Better to buy a gasmask with red lenses.
>>28679163
>same guy in this pic
They are from chem corps.
>>28679055
>Manlet size
Landwhale detected.
>>28679055
>the armour that was designed to stop bayonets, small bits of shrapnel and pistol calibre rounds from 10 metres is crappy because it only does those things
>which it was designed to do
>>28682885
>flamethrower operators die horrible
Why? Getting shot whilst operating a flamethrower is no worse than getting shot whilst using your rifle.
Unless you subsrcibe to that 'flamethrowers explode when you shoot them' bullshit.
>>28689946
>>28689922
>>28689719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbouTdwOrVw
>>28689839
Hard carbide boron ceramics won't shield you from the blast. At best, shrapnel and hand grenade fragments. Fort is the trade-off to counter both explosives and bullets. Goes without saying they recruit the most physically fit people (especially shield bearer) and troopers aren't supposed to run around in full kit for hours like regular infantry.
>>28690005
So you insist that steel is okay in the age ceramics?
>>28690040
I'm saying every type of equipment is best suited for a specific purpose.
>>28690070
And i'm saying that fort uses outdated shit and the company is shit. They sell their retarded shit at prices that even crye could be jelly of.
>>28680100
cute eyes
>>28689970
mad slavaboo detected
>>28689970
>armor that only protects you in very specific circumstances is crappy
Yeah, that sounds about right.
>>28679311
would that kind of stock be legal in states that ban pistol grip, as that could be like a regular stock, kinda
>>28690109
Not really, just pointing out that just because it won't stop a 5.56 round doesn't make it shit.
If something is designed specifically to do 'a' and it does that task, it not being able to cope with 'b' doesn't make it shit.
>>28690247
>armor that only protects you in very specific circumstances is crappy
>Yeah, that sounds about right
That describes every armour ever designed then....
>>28679032
SAPPERS IN THE WIRE
>>28690420
SAPPERS
>>28690430
THE
>>28690436
WIRE
>>28681664
When you shoot from 2-5 meters from the target bore line is enough for aiming.
>>28690040
The advantages of ceramics are in weight and cost. There are steel composites that are far stronger in that they better sustain multiple impacts, or far cheaper in that they are just slabs of hard metal.
>>28690005
Are you saying that a steel insert protects the wearer better from overpressure than a ceramic insert?
Are you being serious?
>>28690904
So you saying ceramics multihit capability is shit?
>>28690935
No. But they are designed to disperse energy and stop the round, then be replaced as soon as compromised. The SAPI has, if I recall correctly, three impacts to the face before being compromised. That said; being compromised doesn't mean the insert will not continue to function, only that it will not function as reliably as NIJ determined was acceptable.
There are better steels for sustaining multiple impact. But they are heavy and expensive. Look at the B6 armor state dept. Requires on all their uparmors.
>>28690969
NIJ As well as DOD testing.
>>28679032
Cкoлькo Oлькaм дoкидывaют чтoбы oни тyт cpaли ? Или ты из /вм/ cбeжaл людeй пoдoёбывaть ?
>>28681320
who fucking care
when they give you this
>>28691241
>they're still spetznas though
"spetznas" has been applied to a spectrum starting from prison guards and ending with commandos assigned to military intelligence.
having "spetznas" in its name is no indicator of the units quality
>>28691241
this is bait
>>28691352
it is bait
>>28689946
Broken-in uniforms vs brand spanking new. My ACUs when thoroughly worn tend to look very light and could almost pass off as some winter-looking bullshit when in bright light where as brand new ones will look like Gen. Austin's uniform albeit maybe more saturated.
>>28679032
Not a bad idea. Mining and boobytrapping has become very widespread as a tactic and the materials for it (reliable fuses and triggers, explosives) are much more widespread than in WW2 or even Korea and Vietnam.
Assault operations in urban areas have become very difficult as a result. I'm sure this kit draws from Russian experiences in Syria and Ukraine (hurrrr, muh proofs).
It is defenitely not marching gear (which is what the light equipment of the common soldier is oriented towards) but these suits could be something that is carried with the logistics vehicles embedded with the unit and handed out to assault teams when the need arises.
>tl;dr true heavy infantry makes a return
>>28679032
Engineering compromise of having a retarded door design for a slightly lower silhouette paying off at 1:14
>doctrine emphasizes disembarking vehicle while it is moving
>get pulled under the wheel before you even get to fire a shot
>inb4 a hundred replies defending the door
The new Russian APC designs have abandoned it. It was bad. No excuse.
>>28691437
>inb4 a hundred replies defending the door
>The new Russian APC designs have abandoned it. It was bad. No excuse.
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