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Rule, 'murica, 'murica rules the waves~
I thought the UK had a carrier or two?
>>28668708
Not yet. And they may or may not be able to operate both at the same time.
When the mighty fall, they fall hard.
>>28668748
>And they may or may not be able to operate both at the same time.
The SDSR specifically mandates both QE classes be operational and the F-35 order is by far large enough to fill both and then some.
>>28668708
They got a life and binned them.
>>28668830
It did?
That is a big change from 2010-2015.
>>28668708
You fucked up the jets we'd ordered for them, so now we're basically sat twiddling our thumbs.
>>28668885
One won't be enough to stop Donald Trump if they ban him and he decides to visit anyway.
>>28668911
That's not just the US's fault - if Britain hadn't changed it's mind twice about which variant they were getting, they could have had several more by now.
>>28668885
Last I heard, the cost of canceling one in breech of contract and all that legal junk would have been greater than the cost of buying one, so they opted for the "fuck it, we're stuck paying for both".
Not sure if that's still the same now, but it was the last i heard.
>>28668949
They were originally planning on immediately mothballing the second for exactly that reason.
The SDSR went balls deep on maintaining WAR fighting capability, not just COIN operations, so decided it was worth keeping them both in an operational state, as well as expanding or maintaining almost every branch.
>>28668885
It is indeed. Much better than what they did have planned.
>>28668416
Jesus America why?
>>28668748
When the mighty fall, they fall hard.
Wise words that America should heed.
America has learnt a great deal from Britain's failures and falling, I personally hope that they do not follow our path.
>>28669084
Because World Police motherfucker!
Also it's is a extremely powerful tool to control trade.
You see, the fact that mercantile ships can travel safely is all because of the Carrier Battle Groups protection.
In the same way, the CBGs could easily interdict a enormous area and/or sink such vessels when certain nations get uppity and start blabbering about "self determination" or such shit
>>28669084
Why not?
>>28669084
>Jesus America why
Because Imperium.
Rome would be proud. Actually, Rome would be embarrassed and jealous.
Roman culture permiated the western world, American culture permiates the entire world.
No roman ever walked on the moon.
Never in the history of man has one nation so heavily outgunned the rest of civilization.
Y'all always manage to turn this into a US vs UK type deal. The UK does not have the economic capability to field a navy the size of the US's. It's that simple, we don't have enough people on our island to sustain that type of cost.
I for one like the fact that it's another member of the Anglo-sphere that took up our role, much better than the alternatives.
>>28669084
NAYVUL SOOPREMACEY
>>28669084
Projection of force. Deterrence. Essentially America is just swinging its giant naval dick around to make sure other countries see it.
>>28669084
Most wars aren't close to the US.
>>28669315
>>28668416
This makes me wish we were Imperialistic and colonized the entire oceans and every country's coastline or sparsely populated frontier with our might from our new Oceanic Undersea/floating empire of billions of Nova Americans.
Stupid ethics.
>>28669084
>>28669414
>wanting to have american live in slave land
PAH-THETIC
>>28669414
We have an economic imperium rather than a military one.
Instead of "Pay tithes or be destroyed" It's "Buy our goods or be destroyed"
No reason to conquer when you can just make more bank with trade deals.
Plus, we have military bases in pretty much every country already, Anon.
>>28669315
Pretty sure Roman culture permeated much more than just the western world. Unless you count Africa as a part of the west.
And no Roman ever walked on the moon, no fucking shit really. That really surprises me.
>>28669369
Thank you, my fellow Angle. We will proudly carry your torch of naval domination
>>28669369
You have to admit that the US surpassed what the British Empire ever was.
>>28669450
America has a trade deficit with the Eu. You buy more European goods/services than they buy American.
>>28669452
Missing the point
Rome's legacy was long and great and heavily influencial. Except for anybody east of the black sea
meanwhile North Korea is the only nation in the world that doesn't have american products on sale, american TV avaliable to watch, etc. etc.
>>28669472
Importing foreign goods from exotic lands is something all empires do.
Britain probably imported more from india than it exported to india as well.
>>28669471
In some ways you have, militarily y'all definitely have. The British empire was founded more on trade and our strong economy than military strength though. We had one of the smallest Armys in Europe at the height of the empire.
But y'all are never gonna be able to march around in red coats fucking up African tribes though. So we're always gonna have that.
>>28669490
Everything from the cloths you wear to the movies and music you enjoy to the internet you are on is American. The US has shaped the world more in the past 100 years then any country before
>>28669490
>>28669523
In the end the burger conquers all.
>>28669505
"Y'all" should be added to the filter.
>>28669505
>But y'all are never gonna be able to march around in red coats fucking up African tribes though.
We get to spot goat herders from 3 miles in the sky with thermal optics, and then watch them explode into a thousand little pieces.
That's on par with volley-firing zulus.
>>28669531
''Y'all'' is an informal contraction of ''you all''. Nothing wrong with it.
>>28668932
>if Britain hadn't changed it's mind twice about which variant they were getting, they could have had several more by now.
If Britain had gone for the F-35C, we'd have been waiting even longer. The F-35B never exited the order, and wasn't delayed by that at all. Training kept going for it the whole time.
Nothing about that debacle hurt the jet schedule, only the carrier one.
>>28669537
Pretty sure other nations also do that. No one fucked up the Zulus like we did though.
>>28669505
The US has the largest economy in the world and shapes the culture of every nation on earth except for North Korea. All post 1776 democracies base their governments off the US's model. I mean I like fucking up Africans as much as the next guy but you have to admit that this transcends what the British Empire had
>>28669487
Is it just me or does the USS Cole have a grey circle on it?
Like a bomb or something went off.
>>28669625
The US does shape NKorea's culture.
Because NKorea's culture is literally "We hate america"
>>28669471
>you have to admit
YEAH ADMIT IT YOU LIMEY FUCKS
USA NUMBER ONE USA NUMBER ONE
>>28669663
Shit I guess you're right. So yeah literally every nation.
>>28669625
When you say that all post 1776 democracies base their governments off the US model, what exactly do you mean? Your constitution? Or actual process of government. Your constitution was based in large parts off British Law, the Magna Carta and our Bill of rights.
It's hard to grasp just how much the British Empire influenced the world as it's gone. I'm not gonna come out and say that it was more powerful than the US, that would be a stupid claim. What we did have was direct control over 1/4 of the Earth's landmass and 1/5 of it's people. That's something nobody will ever have again. The mechanisms/infrastructure that we laid down is still visible today in a lot of places including the US its self. How much of the US constitution was put in place directly as a result of Britain?
Our language for example is so widely used not only because of the US (although that is a large part today) but because of how influential Britain was. I'm fairly confident that if WW1 and/or WW2 never happened Britain would have a similar influence on the world today as the US does.
>>28669445
>not turning slave land into 1st world country with large european population
Let me tell you about the indians....
>>28669801
>wanting to make poo in loos a 1st world country
>not have it remain a source of cheap labor
>>28669487
Well hello there friendo
>>28669845
>>28669084
Step it up, rest of the fucking world.
>>28669864
Are there any pictures like this of US armor or the army in general? Always thought it'd be cool.
>>28669865
Realistically there is no need. Whilst everyone still has nukes the US can't actually use it's massive military to do anything bar invade 3rd world nations.
>>28669878
Always liked this pic, sure it doesn't display any massive amounts of military power, but it sure is neato if you imagine thousands more groups like this exist.
>>28669942
>LAV25s
>AAVPs
Jesus, this '91?
>>28668416
>>28668708
To be fair, OP's pic is not up to date, and does not include all helicopter carriers and all carriers under construction. For instance, the UK has 1 helicopter carrier and 2 aircraft carriers under construction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_by_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_carriers
>>28670013
Forgot:
>Fucking Willys GPs
>>28669942
Gonna sound stupid, but I have to ask- what are the vehicles right behind the abrams?
>>28670013
'99 in Kuwait.
>>28670048
Looks like antiquity.
>>28669814
Oh I was referring to the American Indians.
Ie the ones we pretty much genocided and then turned their clay into first world industry and research facilities for our spacecraft and weapon systems.
THAT is what I'm referring to. Making more 'lebensraum' for American colonists to basically create new states
>>28670040
LAV-25s
>>28670040
LAV-25's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAV-25
>>28670069
>we pretty much genocided
You fail history dipshit
stfu
>>28670066
that's the marines
All their equipment is old shit because they waste their procurement money
I fucking hope we don't follow Britain's path.
Empires are overrated as fuck. Much more trouble than they were worth.
If America is going to stay powerful and relevant we need to make ourselves invaluable to the world. The world doesn't need another empire.
It needs safety nets.
Something to ensure the things we have learned won't be forgotten.
>>28670286
What the fuck are you babbling about?
>>28669845
C17s?
>>28670304
You really think he has any fucking idea what he's on about?
>>28669084
Compensating. For weak allies.
God damn it feels good to be American
>Muh First Amendment
>Muh Second Amendment
>Muh gigantic Navy
How do other countries not feel shame about lacking these things?
>>28669589
Russia isn't a nation, it's a meme that became so big and so obnoxious it pushed its way into reality.
>>28670794
>Black guy
See there's your answer. Countries like Norway, Switzerland and a bunch of other ones can feel comfy about being fairly hegemonic, far richer and socially stable, while still having pretty nice militaries relative to their population. Being irrelevant on a global scale has a surprising amount of perks. Then again, I'd still feel good about murica if I was a burger.
>>28670887
From what I have been reading about the migrant crisis in Europe, the whole hegemonic thing won't last. And the more show up, the more it will burden your economies. Y'all need the second amendment and fast
>>28669084
Because the only reason the Somalis and Thai and Nip pirates aren't being paid off with thousands of tons of oil and gold by passing merchant vessels is because 'Merica is the biggest, baddest motherfucker in the room and will fucking rekt your ass with everything from complete economic and political subversion to outright atomic hellfire.
>>28669414
>This makes me wish we were Imperialistic and colonized the entire oceans and every country's coastline or sparsely populated frontier with our might
We are still only in the Republican Era, brother.
Only once we have our Caesar and his Rubicon will we truly become great.
>tfw you never see the stars and stripes with all 150 stars
>tfw you never you plant that flag on Beijing or Moscow or even just lowly Berlin
>tfw when you will never fight in the glorious American Legions against communist rebels on Alpha Centauri Prime
>>28670949
Situation could be better, yeah. However the right wing (and not the cuckservative one, actual nationalist) is on the rise again, even in Sweden the nationalist party has grown from like 3% vote to 26%+ in just a matter of years. People are getting tired of EU and liberal/left wing politics.
Also some countries have ok gun laws, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland and Norway in particular. Nordic countries don't allow guns for self defence, but if shit hits the fan that matter.
I'm hopeful Europe will start sorting itself out, but it really is uncertain atm.
>>28671040
but if shit hits the fan that won't matter*
>>28669487
>OHPs
Not anymore senpai.
>>28669845
>growlers
>US Air Force
Doubt.jpg
>>28670184
>You fail history dipshit
>stfu
Are you some kinda butthurt europoo?
We single handedly reduced the indian population down 90 percent and the rest became trapped on indian reserves to be bred out.
You must be butthurt because you'd probably be one of the natives getting death camped and your irrelevant country turned into a bastion of American might and technological prowess.
Look on the bright side, your surviving descendants can live in a far superior country after we remove their incompetent ancestors ie you.
>>28671096
Wew lad.
Remember this is 4chan.
>>28671040
... What is the point of the guns if they can't be used for self defense? Would you be prosecuted if you shot someone trying to kill you?
>>28671153
Varies from country to country, I can only go in-depth about Sweden because I don't know about others.
Most gun owners in Sweden live out of cities. The most common usage of guns is hunting (100.000 moose are shot annually) along with a lot of other game. Beyond that, shooting for the fun of it, shooting competitions and the sport Biathlon (cross-country skiing + target shooting) are all fairly popular. If someone was on my property and I shot them, that'd be considered murder. If someone was about to kill me and I ran away, grabbed a gun and shot him, that'd be a murder. If someone attacked me and I just so happened to be holding a gun and shot him, I might get away with if I can justify it as self-defence in the heat of the moment.
It's pretty shit, but better than a lot of other European countries. Also we've got no 'bans' on supressors or FA guns, they're just hard to get a license for in the first place.
A relative of mine even owns a select fire MP5, but full auto is a lot harder to get as it's hard to justify the necessity of it when most licenses are given for the sake of hunting.
Thing is though, in Sweden people have not really felt a need to defend themselves for many many years, it has been a very safe and well-ordered society, but as we all know that is drastically changing, and so peoples interest in being able to defend themselves will increase. Proof of this I guess is pepper spray sales in Germany which have increased with something like 600% after the migrant crisis.
